How Qui-Gon's Death Created Darth Vader (CANON)

Find out how Qui-Gon's death determined Anakin's fate, dooming him to one day become the Sith Lord Darth Vader...
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[@tjcarr8097]

Anakin really needed to be trained in isolation. Having a Sith in one ear and a Jedi in the other confused him into adulthood

[@Vietmac1993]

There is a what if story where Qui Gon never told the council about Anakin's existence and actually left the Jedi Order to train Anakin in secret.

[@nintendogamingchannel1007]

⁠​⁠@@Vietmac1993 Jedi still killed off but not by Anakin.

[@Vietmac1993]

@@nintendogamingchannel1007 I know. Anakin is still the chosen one and brings balance to the force but in the correct way.

[@robertisham5279]

Honestly Obi Wan should never have been allowed to train Anakin.

[@StephanBridgeraj]

As far as i'm concerned, the Jedi created Darth.Vader. The sith only took advantage of the situation.

[@apostolospapamicheal557]

Qui Quon was the only person father figure for anakin who could keep him in the light and learn him control his feelings he was a balance between light and dark side

[@TaraCicora]

The end of TPM was always so unsettling in how it has a seemingly happy ending, but the undertones are less happy. I was always amazed when I saw it in theaters at how many people thought it was an actual happy ending.

[@havco501st7]

That's pretty much the same thing I have thought especially beforehand ob1 including the Jedi not trusting but having the tolerate Anakin while Qui-Gon was the only one that not only trusted him fully but would have made Anakin feel like and perhaps he would have open up the way more then he would have with Obi-Wan. But during the funeral scene and the way he looked at Qui-Gon Jinn burning I can see the fear and unsettlement with Anakin's eyes

[@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160]

​@@havco501st7idiotic

[@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160]

It's happy in the sense Anakin will fulfill the prophecy. If Obi and Qui Gon died Anakin isn't trained. One lived and he was trained and was able to fulfill the chosen one deed. Therefore. Happy ending.

[@natebartels1444]

I don’t think Obi-Wan Kenobi was ever really up to the task of training Anakin.

[@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160]

​@@matthewbee128wrong. He accepted Anakin when he had the scene with Qui Gon in Phantom Menace. He also immediately started to have a bond with him so no. Maybe in the first half of phantom menace he was questioning but after. No. Not at all.

[@devonhinckley2889]

Yup. It all made sense to why Palpatine wants Qui Gon dead and out of the way because Qui Gon being the only Jedi in tune with the Living Force itself and Anakin's limitless potential would have been a threat to him. He wanted the Jedi Order itself to be so dogmatic that they lose themselves, their own dogmatic rulings sealed their destruction at the hands of the boy they're too scared of, it's ironic. A combination of Obi Wan not wanting Anakin, Qui Gon's demise at the hands of Darth Maul, and the Jedi Council's resentment and fear towards Anakin did influence him to become Darth Vader, Palpatine as Darth Sidious orchestrated all that, and with Qui Gon out of the way, it's game over for the entire galaxy, the Jedi had already lost the war the moment Qui Gon met his demise and Anakin being so alone without a father figure like Qui Gon.

[@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160]

Lmfao this is wrong on every level considering Vader becomes Vader either way and it's duel of the fates because if Obi and Qui Gon both die Anakin doesn't get trained. If one lives like Obi did Anakin gets trained and fulfills the prophecy. You Obi Wan haters just go crazy.

[@williamcartwright373]

Great comments

[@KevinDiazx11]

It always surprises me that obi wan didn’t take more a qui gon nature to question everything like he did

[@avarycepierce6296]

That could actually be blamed on the Council too. Young Obi-Wan was very similar to Anakin and they felt the best way to temper his nature would be to have him as Qui-Gon's student. Safe to say: they were right.

[@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160]

He did later on. Hence why he knows the council isn't always right.

[@KevinDiazx11]

@@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160 yeah after everything when to hell 😂😂

[@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160]

@@KevinDiazx11 no. Way earlier than that. Just Obi Wan haters

[@KevinDiazx11]

@@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160 wtf obi wan hater ???🥴😂😂 for speaking facts I’m a hater now okay snowflake

[@OreskisVR]

Very Factual & Entertaining. Qui-Gon was a very wise Jedi. Maybe not the strongest in combat but in the Force. The Prequels did an amazing job showing Anakin's fall to become Vader. Nice Video Retney👍

[@jrmoodyiii]

Obi-Wan was similar to the rest of the order despite his past with the Duchess of Mandalore. He committed to the Jedi code

[@harrisonstewart3781]

That would make one of the great What-If stories. What if Qui-gon Jinn survived on Naboo? There are also these What-If story ideas as well. What if Count Dooku was redeemed? What if Ahsoka Tano didn’t leave the Jedi order? And What if the Resistance failed to destroy Star Killer Base?

[@Spanky8402]

I see all this differently. Anakin did bring balance to the force. The force has the Lightside and the Darkside. The Jedi did lose they're way, like you said in the video and because of Anakin and his kids, the force sides were equal. I think it was meant to go that way.

[@kseniaboytseva4714]

It's not Anakin's fault that the Force decided for him. Kenobi was not a good teacher and missed his student. Like Yoda, he missed one of his friends, although he could also be more sensitive, diplomatic, more attentive and not a zero psychologist who does not understand anything at all, especially seeing a boy with a difficult childhood and mental injuries who needed help in time to avoid such mistakes of youth.

[@juans7677]

So many people say had qui gon lived anakin would not have turned to the darkside and I believed that for a long while also. His journey as a jedi would have been different for sure But can it really be said the destination would have been different? If he had visions of padmes' death in that scenario, nothing would stop him from attempting to prevent her death. He'd go to any lengths needed to ensure her life does not end as we'd seen in the RoS film.

[@markgarcia8253]

The Force works in mysterious ways. The Jedi order, like the Catholic Church, had fallen and arrogance in their core beliefs and teachings. And suffered from the politics their hegemony caused. For it was Anakin and the Sith that eradicated the fallen Jedi order. But it was the son of Anakin whom redeemed him and destroyed the Sith. Sealing the fates of both.

[@HeartOfHallownest]

In short, darth mauls sole purpose for going to Naboo for the battle with qui gon and kenobi was to kill qui gon. Not kenobi. If he succeeded in this then palpatine wouldn’t care wether maul lived or died to kenobi. Dark I know.

[@stevenhall4444]

Qui gon was the only person who could train anakin he had a lot more in come with him than obi one kenobi who was had no life experience outside the jedi order.

[@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160]

Wrong on every level. Actually concerning how a "fan" could be this off

[@GeneralKenobiYouAreABold1]

If qui gon trained Anakin, then Anakin wouldn’t become Darth Vader

[@bryankennedy2257]

Was Master Qui-Gon meant to die in order to create Darth Vader....

[@loudboy317]

Despite all Obi-wan could do for Anakin, he didn't realize that he had already lost him way before Qui-Gon was killed. The moment Anakin heard Obi-wan say "the boy is dangerous", not only did it completely sever his trust in him, it caused Anakin to develop a deep hatred for Obi-wan. Palpatine didn't even have to try to turn Anakin against Obi-wan because he was already rebelling against him.

[@TaraCicora]

Ironically that very conversation is mentioned between Anakin and Obi-Wan in one of the Clone Wars books. Obi-Wan is horrified that Anakin had overheard it and what was worse had been affected by it as a child. It was a good scene.

[@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160]

First of all. Completely wrong. Second off Obi Wan was right. Third Obi Wan regretted it and had the convo with Qui Gon and accepted Anakin. Anakin didn't care about that AT ALL Once they developed their bond and actually grew to know eachother. You just hate Obi Wan.

[@loudboy317]

@@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160 Obviously, Anakin did care. If he didn't, he wouldn't be disobeying Obi-wan so much nor would he be willing to betray him or murder him.

[@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160]

@@loudboy317 lmfao George says otherwise so you are wrong.

[@loudboy317]

@@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160 George made them fight each other in Episode 3 and 4 so it's you who is wrong.

[@ElTwOJaY]

Obi Wan: I wasn’t prepared to train someone like you! Anakin: That’s your failing. Obi Wan: Perhaps I did fail you, but I won’t just abandon you to the dark side! Anakin: That’s not your decision to make.

[@yusrashah1173]

poor ani

[@michaelgarcia8602]

The Star Wars . What if . Is very interesting . Very Very interesting.

[@Redpoppy80]

I don't think Qui-Gon would have had Anakin at Corasant more then he absolutely had to. It was the center of all of the things he knew would be problems for Anakin. I think the most important thing would have been that Anakin would have told Qui-Gon about the Raider slaughter or some equivalent assuming that Qui-Gon would have made sure that Anakin knew that Shmi was safe even if Anakin wasn't the one to free his mother. Obi-Wan wanted Anakin to suppress his desires and emotions, while Qui-Gon would have harnessed them.

[@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160]

Wrong.

[@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160]

Except Vader becomes Vader either way. The "Duel of the Fates" is if Obi and Qui Gon die then Anakin is never trained. If one lives as Obi Wan did then Anakin is trained and fulfills his destiny. If Obi had died and Qui Gon lived. Anakin still becomes vader and still fulfills his destiny. If they both died Anakin does not get trained. Only people thinking Qui Gon makes a difference are Obi Wan haters.

[@marshalbarachieloftheblack9697]

Except it was stated numerous times that Qui-Gon is the only one that can truly save him

[@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160]

​@marshalbarachieloftheblack9697 lmfao I would love for you to show where it says that because I remember George saying he becomes Vader either way. Lmfao you Obi Wan haters are so odd

[@marshalbarachieloftheblack9697]

@@wabbbbaaaaaafeeettt9160 Everyone including Dave Feloni even stated it. Obi Wan literally admitted that he fucked up Anakin's training and apoligizes to Qui Gon's Force Ghost. How am I an Obi Wan Hater LMFAO This one sounds like a ScreenRant article, who are known to say BS