A chain for the frame + an Ulock for the wheel + an alarm is what I use on my ebike. I also take the battery out it’s 80 pounds so they won’t get far if they take it. Also has a tracker. I honestly think we should be able to shoot thieves on sight for all the precautions we have to take.
@lanceblack8882 жыл бұрын
I agree! 💥
@zakzwijn8410 Жыл бұрын
I just pre-ordered the LiteLok X3 and I ordered the new york fahgettaboudit too
@ttoyscustoms Жыл бұрын
Surron?
@TeddyJSmooth4 ай бұрын
It's taking too long.
@tiloaloАй бұрын
I'd rather live elsewhere if I had to take so much precaution to just use a bicycle...
@robertclark92 жыл бұрын
Being able to stand makes a difference. In the field you’d be crouching on one knee, or sitting on the ground. And being attached to a frame it’s gonna jump around a lot more also. I have the same chain for my ebike (two years) and no one has even tried to defeat it yet. No lock is theft proof, but this one will put up the hardest fight.
@lanceblack8882 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@Rainer3862 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking, I've seen videos of people demonstrating how tough it is to cut through these Krypto locks. They always have it on a flat surface, with the chain in mid air it would be much harder to cut through.
@rowey19922 жыл бұрын
The fact that the link requires 2 cuts means that most thieves will move onto the next bike. Too much noise & too much time. Your lock will never be "thief proof", it just has to be harder than the next one.
@cliftonsmith Жыл бұрын
@@rowey1992 exactly
@greg2142 Жыл бұрын
It's probably easier and quicker for the thief to rob the bank that the bike is locked up in front of lol
@lanceblack888 Жыл бұрын
😎
@dga2234 күн бұрын
A little more pressure on the grinder to not kill off too much speed and a pair of vice grips (which any thief that has a portable grinder would have) to hold the link would have gotten through in about half that time. Either way, Any 3T manganese chain with 9mm links or greater are a excellent deterrent.
@terryloh8583 Жыл бұрын
Great video. There is very little anyone can do against a well-equipped and highly motivated thief. The best anyone can hope for is deterrence so that criminals move on to something that will be less hassle. Thankfully cutting through hardened metal with an angle grinder is really, really noisy, so that's a plus as well.
@lanceblack888 Жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@TheAaronJP16 күн бұрын
Had my ebike stolen from a metal shed with 2 thick locks using an angle grinder. Found it listed on Facebook marketplace. Arranged a meet up but the cops didn't turn up when called. I plan to carry an angle grinder around myself now.
@lanceblack88816 күн бұрын
It’s incredible how brazen these thieves can be. The simply don’t care about being caught.
@TheAaronJP16 күн бұрын
@@lanceblack888 it is. The guy that stole my bike works as a gardener in my local area. Man is eating where he shits
@machomartinez10942 ай бұрын
At least I kno he won’t hear my foot steps when im walking with my hole maker
@andrewjohnson4102 жыл бұрын
It’s probably the strongest chain-and also the heaviest. People don’t want to get involved and maybe get hurt, so they will walk on by, pretending they didn’t see anything. In a high risk area, I have started using the Skunklock. With high-pressure, vomit-inducing gas that stays on the clothes and forms a cloud about ten feet in diameter, my guess is the thief would lose all interest in stealing the bike-or any bike until he quits vomiting and maybe changes his pants.
@lanceblack8882 жыл бұрын
Is that a legitimate product? Sounds a bit dangerous!
@terryloh8583 Жыл бұрын
I saw that lock! Hopefully you'll never have to see how it performs in a real life situation, but if you do, I'd love to hear about it!
@xWood4000 Жыл бұрын
@@lanceblack888 I think it's illegal in the UK, but yes it's real
@Poth942 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who doesn't use a vice and/or main powered angle. grinder
@garthqueen Жыл бұрын
But a sh1tty "Toolzone" disc though
@claudiorojas12343 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the valuable information. I was really curious on how long would it take.
@obadiahsmith23452 жыл бұрын
That poor cactus catching sparks . Nice video though thanks for doing it
@rhammond1963Ай бұрын
A thieve is NOT going to spend too much time stealing a bike or scooter making all kind of loud noise in public.
@stingingeyes3 ай бұрын
Sadly, the one true defence I've found is having a bike nobody wants. My 1994 mountain bike survived 4.5 years of frequent use with just a £10 lock. The other side: young guys found it so worthless while chained-up they kicked it over in disgust. London is full of old steel-framed bikes - seems others have the same idea.
@Dopamine6662 жыл бұрын
I have the same chain in a 12 mm thick model with the same lock plus an alarm. I will rarely leave the bike unattended anyway, but if locked up properly in a populated area I feel pretty good about leaving my ebike for a short period of time.
@lanceblack8882 жыл бұрын
The real problem is bike components. The frame is only one valuable part of the bike. My saddle, bars, pedals and especially wheels are worth thousands. I only use my bike in the countryside. I never leave it unattended. My first bike was stolen. I’d owned it for a day. It was chained to a down pipe outside university on a busy sidewalk. They probably pulled up in a van, cut the lock and drove off without anyone stopping them or reporting it.
@cooloutac2 жыл бұрын
@@lanceblack888 this is true and worse comes to worst they could cut the frame and take everything else. Especially attractable if an e-bike nowadays.
@bigbaz-1218 Жыл бұрын
dont feel safe mine went in 90 seconds never again
@cooloutac Жыл бұрын
@@bigbaz-1218 what lock did u have?
@bigbaz-1218 Жыл бұрын
Oxford HD was gone 90 seconds
@iamruss743 жыл бұрын
thank you for the video. I am sure thief would have no such comfort of being able to place the link at convenient angle to make the cut. Also the chain is flexible and it will have enough play to make grinder slip or bite
@lanceblack8883 жыл бұрын
A thief would be more practiced and expert having done it many times. I think this chain is probably the safest you can buy. My own bike was securely chained to a metal drainpipe and it was stolen on a busy street and nobody noticed. My point is your bike is never safe unless you can see it yourself.
@langhamp89123 жыл бұрын
I try to keep the chain from touching the ground so the thief cannot stabilizer the chain link against the ground. I use three locks for my cargo bike. A 7 mm chain through the wheel to post, a 12 mm chain through frame and post, and a very small wheel lock between rim and spokes.
@Maykay13122 жыл бұрын
@@lanceblack888 get one of thoes alarms that starts to go off when u touch the bike + its a horn
@Maykay13122 жыл бұрын
@@langhamp8912 ye the same thing i was thinking if the chain is hanging off the bike and not touching the floor they cannot cut it with a angle grinder probably the metal pole that u locked ur bike to will be a easyer target lmao + the wire cutters u woud need thoes fireman hydraulic cutters to cut the lock + u woud need to cut it twice lmao
@chazzlidell76532 жыл бұрын
@@lanceblack888 you have all the answers. Seems your cheering for bike thieves. Btw your cutting this chain in a controlled environment. A bike thief in a real world scenario would have some problems cutting the chain with an angle grinder. Can't keep chain steady as links have some play and slack. Next is the sustainable noise the grinder will make. Finally in my neighborhood if bike thief is caught red handed its shoot first ask questions later.
@eyefishinggunkchannel1011 Жыл бұрын
what are you doing a thieth would not spend this much time he would stand on the lock it make it so it's not moving about so u can put full presure on it and cut it in 20 seconds or so
@BortPlateАй бұрын
What's the chain thickness? 12/13/14mm?
@n3tfury2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff thank you sir. I'm sold on this chain!
@MrT-tn4qe10 ай бұрын
These locks get cut all the time. Just had one on my bike, bike was gone next day lock was on the ground. This was done in the train station right next to the guard house. No lock is safe, especially this one. It was very easily cut off my bike
@rbb695 ай бұрын
@@MrT-tn4qehow do you know it was "easy"?
@OnTheRoadAgainGR2 жыл бұрын
Do you believe thieves are going to be so noisy and try to cut the chain with a conventional grinder? The new trend for them is to use a dental technician grinder I don't know how it works but this is info from police officer.
@lanceblack8882 жыл бұрын
The police told me that bike thieves are brazen. They don’t care. If challenged they’ll just say they’ve lost the padlock keys and the bike belongs to them.
@garthqueen Жыл бұрын
Those are even louder!
@rhammond1963Ай бұрын
Thats almost 20mins trying to cut through the chain, it ain't worth it.
@KiliGraphics Жыл бұрын
The u lock is the weak point on this lock. It just needs one cut to get the chain trough it sadly. And it does not move around as the chain.
@TheAnonyy2 жыл бұрын
they would cut through the padlock not the chain as that is easier to get through i've seen some other video's of people using angle grinders on them
@lanceblack8882 жыл бұрын
Good point. I didn’t want to damage the lock because I’ll probably sell the chain and lock. I’m not letting my bike out of my sight!
@Northernblades2 жыл бұрын
This chain is not secured with a padlock :)
@garthqueen Жыл бұрын
Not if its closed shackle type,which is what you would use with this if you valued your bike
@MrT-tn4qe10 ай бұрын
These locks get cut all the time. Just had one on my bike, bike was gone next day lock was on the ground. This was done in the train station right next to the guard house. No lock is safe, especially this one. It was very easily cut off my bike
@supertouring229 ай бұрын
Next day? How long did they take?
@MrT-tn4qe8 ай бұрын
@@supertouring22 They removed the lock within 60 seconds using a battery powered angle grinder. Brazenly in public in front of witnesses and cameras. Never got caught, cops said they don't investigate bike theft
@alexstone38222 жыл бұрын
It took you over a minute to cut but look what you have to use. I guess you can cut it faster if you had a "Rocket Launcher" or "C4".
@lanceblack8882 жыл бұрын
True. It’s a great chain. However it was my first attempt. I’m sure I could cut much faster using a non-battery grinder or just with more practice. I’m not a professional thief. I’m a cyclist conducting an experiment. Criminals will be far more expert than me. Of course any padlock only protects the frame and maybe the wheels. There are so many expensive components on bikes these days.
@WiSeNhEiMeR-13693 ай бұрын
Thanks COOP ...
@Itwasntalieitwastrueinmymind Жыл бұрын
Would this particular lock withstand the grinder as the chain did or would it not allow itself to be cut?
@lanceblack888 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t want to sacrifice the lock. I think it would take several minutes to cut. At the end of the day this lock and chain will make them think twice, hold them up or make them try another bike. Only way to stop them is to never leave your bike alone.
@lanceblack8882 жыл бұрын
Even being filmed in daylight in a public place the thieves brazen it out. www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001b81r
@garthqueen Жыл бұрын
Brazen hussies
@Chrxs_iso2 жыл бұрын
But what if u cut the actual lock that the chain is connected to ? Then that kinda defeats the purpose of owning a chain lock right?
@lanceblack8882 жыл бұрын
The lock looks indestructible and I suspect would take much longer to cut.
@Chrxs_iso2 жыл бұрын
@@lanceblack888 really I heard an angle grinder takes a lot longer to cut through chain oppose to a U lock.
@RickF-dw8cl2 жыл бұрын
Thx
@aquious9532 жыл бұрын
Funny, I've seen people cut through this chain in less than 15 seconds.
@lanceblack8882 жыл бұрын
Nonsense.
@aquious9532 жыл бұрын
@@lanceblack888 Look on other channels for examples of this and other gold standard locks being cut. I bought the bordo granit xplus rated 15 for $260.00. grinder will cut through it in 16 seconds. The reason your struggling to cut it is you don't have tension on it. That lock can be easily cut with the larger bolt cutters too. It's kind of disheartening I know.
@lanceblack8882 жыл бұрын
@@aquious953 absolute nonsense. This chain does not allow “tension”. It’s half an inch thick hardened steel.
@aquious9532 жыл бұрын
@@lanceblack888 whatever helps you sleep at night. Did you bother to look up the videos I described? The chain locks are incredibly easy to cut with the extra large bolt cutters.
@frafra2242 жыл бұрын
@@aquious953 They usually cut the mini D-lock.
@eyefishinggunkchannel1011 Жыл бұрын
Wii subsand the destroying a 100 pound or wateva they cost is a bit crazy there's wood of ppl who have done this there is no bike lock out there that can withstands grinder cos a grinder blade is like sand and rock and send and rock is basicly like glass and glass is harder than steel so it has 2 cut u i thought about making 1 out of glass and steal so I can't cut through the class kindov
@garthqueen Жыл бұрын
Wrong,fool.Litelok is grinder resistant.
@TeddyJSmooth4 ай бұрын
Maybe your grinder is cheap.
@chrissetter3 ай бұрын
Metabo is one of the best when it comes to angle grinders. A lot on the field at union iron worker sites.
@djSpinege Жыл бұрын
don't you think they would just cut the lock since it's weaker?
@lanceblack888 Жыл бұрын
The lock doesn’t look weak. It looks very substantial. The trouble with this chain and lock is the weight. It’s very heavy.
@djSpinege Жыл бұрын
@@lanceblack888 the lock is tough but still weaker than the link in this case. plus with a lock you usually only need to make one cut and it opens. in almost all pictures of stolen gear the thief cuts at the lock.
@alexstone38222 жыл бұрын
That's way too much work and way too much noise for a bike thief.
@lanceblack8882 жыл бұрын
Nah! They’ll just say the bike belongs to them and they’ve lost the keys. Never underestimate the brazen criminal mind.
@chazzlidell76532 жыл бұрын
@@lanceblack888 my baseball bat will get them to confess. Lol
@secretbeach9992 жыл бұрын
@@lanceblack888 My kryptonite lock has the combo on it. What does the thief say then that a decent police officer wouldn’t think is total bullshit?
@Delta9224 ай бұрын
Taking too long and making too much noise.
@lanceblack8883 ай бұрын
I’m not the thief
@ozzie4442 жыл бұрын
What Kryptonite model chain is that? Yea you'd need to make 2 cuts. Good enough for me I believe. Let me know what Kryptonite part number this chain is please. I need this ASAP.
@lanceblack8882 жыл бұрын
I still have the chain. Would you like to buy it? It’s like new except for one missing link. L
@lanceblack8882 жыл бұрын
lance.black@yahoo.com
@coryhobbs53862 жыл бұрын
It’s the Kryptonite NY FUGGETTABOUT IT
@ozzie4442 жыл бұрын
@@lanceblack888 I ended up getting the New York Noose 1275 Chain Lock. It's rated 9-10 out of 10. Instead of the 14mm links it's got 12mm links and it's a few lbs lighter and easier to handle.
@lanceblack8882 жыл бұрын
@@ozzie444 the best security is to never leave your bike unattended 👍
@Bhaus12 жыл бұрын
Cut the lockbar not the chain 😂
@APPLEPIE9782 жыл бұрын
The shackle of the lock is 1mm thicker than the chain with around the same hardness as the chain. The shackle is also designed so that you can't twist it so you would still need to make 2 cuts, just through thicker material.
@TrungTran-bl3jy2 жыл бұрын
Ở Vietnam thì tiếng ồn này cực kì không ổn , dù đó là xe của mình . Cảm ơn đã làm video này .
@lanceblack888 Жыл бұрын
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@FUCK_YOU_PAY_ME5 ай бұрын
I got the kryptonite new york FAHGETTABOUDIT 1410 BIKE CHAIN LOCK WITH THE NEW YORK U LOCKE I SHOULD BE GOOD WITH THAT
@pietropipparolo4329 Жыл бұрын
It took you 1O mins and there goes your blade, och eye!!
@lanceblack888 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a thief. An experienced thief could probably manage it in 5 minutes.
@garthqueen Жыл бұрын
5 seconds more like.Let me at it with my flexvolt grinder and 0.8mm discs@@lanceblack888