Genuinely cool how ROTF (despite its incredibly inconsistent writing) was able to foreshadow the story of DOTM by quickly mentioning Sentinel Prime's invention of the pillars that held the power to receive "echoes" from deep space e.g. teleporting massive interstellar bodies.
@justinarzola4584 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was a cool detail.
@OGrupxe11 ай бұрын
When was it mentioned?
@dfxedits460711 ай бұрын
@@OGrupxe It was mentioned the time when Sam was freaking out in his college lecture, specifically after he wrote the symbols on the board.
@nova_zar Жыл бұрын
I think it all can be summarized by considering The Fallen's statement that the Allspark's power can never be destroyed and only move between vessels and so it moved from Sam to the Matrix when he died and then he was able to use it after being deemed worthy by the Primes.
@justinarzola4584 Жыл бұрын
All that information could have been transferred from sam to optimus.
@beybreado Жыл бұрын
Answer easily explained: he quitted eating his mom's weed brownies
@wafagdplqs4421 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@ricardosmuts Жыл бұрын
😂
@MonsterverseRodanK1ng Жыл бұрын
Lol
@LordBumblebee1238 Жыл бұрын
“Weed Brownies?”
@QcTreyWay22YT Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@FRIEND_711 Жыл бұрын
Honestly this acting of him having the mental breakdown in class is top tier acting to me, regardless of how goofy it seems. I mean I don't know that many actors that can do that mouth spaz thing.
@Ryder-a-Blaze Жыл бұрын
Sam may not have been the greatest human character ever but I still liked him, it’s sad that he’s gone now.
@MidnightAim14576 ай бұрын
Sam: Unknown death Jolt: unknown death Skids and Mudflap: unknown death
@Deathfights5x6 ай бұрын
Skids and mudflap are alive because two cemetery wind kill cards of the twins didn’t have a ❌ on them
@MidnightAim14575 ай бұрын
@@Deathfights5x oh cool. Last seen: with Devastator
@BroIsNotOpium5 ай бұрын
@@Deathfights5xin the Dark of the moon comic they’re both killed by Sentinel’s rust gun
@shadowmarauder6033 Жыл бұрын
I honestly thought you had covered most mysteries & plot holes in the bayverse, but the ones you mentioned for the future really show how much you have to work with creatively but also that Bay just threw in for fun.
@TFOutdoors Жыл бұрын
This is why I love this channel. It adds so much more depth to these movies that most people wouldn’t have noticed on the first watch. I’ve watched the first three movies over and over ever since I was like 5 and the thought of everything in this video never crossed my mind. This channel is more than just theories, it’s an eye opener.
@LeoK1748 Жыл бұрын
You now its a good day when theorymus uploads❤
@J_Cat3910 Жыл бұрын
Yep in fact I got as nightbird today
@julianvillarreal1450 Жыл бұрын
Nice explaining. I do remember seeing your video explaining about the original ending to this movie where Optimus explains to Sam how the symbols were no longer in his head.
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Жыл бұрын
I think it would be a fun or cool idea if you made a video of ranking or tier list of the live action TF vehicles, Aircrafts, water vehicles, Military, Cybertron etc, and taking about which ones you like & dislike then & which you would like to have in real life
@Ryder-a-Blaze Жыл бұрын
The forest fight would have been very different if the autobots had decided to be things other than cars and trucks, such as jets and helicopters.
@MogusMasterSaikawa22 Жыл бұрын
they don't look nearly massive enough to be those things. like ironhide looks like he's made of paperclips if you look at his joints starscream by comparison has massive hydraulics and rods in his shoulders and legs I really don't know if the autobots would be able to at least not without shrinking the vehicles down haha
@thesymbiotenation.4552 Жыл бұрын
@@MogusMasterSaikawa22 well i believe the reason the bots and cons choose the modes that they have is because they can only take on altmodes that resemble their Cybertronian altmodes and or those of similar mass to what they already have
@merafirewing6591 Жыл бұрын
@@thesymbiotenation.4552 there is an autobot called Maverick who can transform into an F-14 Tomcat, which would've been cool if he was seen in live action.
@chriscarpenter3370 Жыл бұрын
imagine a bumblebee that turns into a little bird combat helicopter
@MogusMasterSaikawa22 Жыл бұрын
@@thesymbiotenation.4552 michael bay wanted to deemphasize mass shifting so it would only make sense. besides the autobots are generally shown to be physically weaker than the decepticons in the first movie besides optimus which makes sense given he's around the same size as them
@ezioauditore1300 Жыл бұрын
I always considered that the Primes were always unside the Matrix. Like when they "Sacrificed" themselves to keep Megatronus away from the Matrix. They didnt just hide it. They transfered their Sparks inside of it. So they can decide who can wield it. Test who ever touches the Matrix. If Megatronus found it first, the same thing would have happened.
@Harrison_big_lad Жыл бұрын
0:00 would be my profile picture if I wasn't severely addicted to bearded dragons
@louiswebtser7 ай бұрын
*Bearded dragon sticks out tongue*
@jaredfetzer7041 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a plot hole but one of either a few or many instances where Sam doesn't change as a character. In Revenge of The Fallen and Dark of The Moon, Sam just constantly tries to have a normal life and pushes away the Autobots. If he actually cared about the Autobots he would have told them, but no he was more focused on college life than the Autobots. Also, he would have the protection of the Autobots so if they try to attack him, Optimus Prime and the Autobots would be there for him.
@friendflame9111 Жыл бұрын
He probably kept the fragment of the all spark as a trophy as well
@GUSTAVO.H.O.F. Жыл бұрын
EXPLAINING how SAM stopped having EPILEPTIC SEIZURES!
@LyntonleSigma Жыл бұрын
Thank you Theorymus for this Theory keep the progress
@captainbat37 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say there was always a reason or an answer to these questions I doubt they thought that much especially considering there was a writers strike around this movie but thinking of ways to explain these things is impressive
@VioletHorns Жыл бұрын
And there is a theory that the Cube is sympathetic to decepticons, not autobots. So it’s possible that the shard blocked Sam from accessing the memories of the fits so he wouldn’t tell autobots about them. It seems thrilling!
@Dopelifeofchris Жыл бұрын
I gotta say, the thumbnail for this video is so good
@Pigpen_YT Жыл бұрын
Great video! You only briefly mentioned it but I think the reason why Sam didn't tell Optimus about his shard of the allspark is probably for selfish reasons. Dude tells Prime that he wants to be a normal guy so telling him he has a piece of the allspark would just make the Autobots and NEST investigate Mikeala. Though maybe it's not a selfish reason and he just didn't wanna involve her in this? Then again the autobots taking the allspark shard from her would remove her from the situation. Actually nvm, good luck on theorizing that one because nothing I can think of really works lol
@treebotreviews Жыл бұрын
I always thought the outbursts stopped after scalpel proved his mind.
@keldeostudies149 Жыл бұрын
I think the simple reason sam didn't bring up the shard was to make sure no decepticons would come after him again (which didn't work all that well in the end) As for why he didn't bring the messages up i have no clue why
@resenasarirmz6909 Жыл бұрын
One question I always had was how the lack of comunication problem from the first movie was solved? I mean, in the first film the decepticons cut the comunication signal in the whole world, but at the end of the movie they seem alright
@alobaymar Жыл бұрын
I wonder if touching the Shard and the encounter with the elder Primes connects to the crazy theory that Sam may have reincarnated into Cogman's new consciousness. Have you heard about that one? There's like a lot of details to mention about why Cogman could actually be Sam Witwicky it's insane
@IronKnightPrime Жыл бұрын
But Cogman mentions that he's served many folgans meaning he's been around far longer then Sam has.
@alobaymar Жыл бұрын
@@IronKnightPrime maybe thats why Cogman is still alive, Sam's soul probably?
@DrDodo117 Жыл бұрын
I just assumed he never lost them and then he went mad and that’s why he’s not in aoe
@sagaver2588 Жыл бұрын
In the early 2007 screenplay, when I touched AllSpark, there was a production where the vision of Sentinel Prime appeared and told me to use AllSpark to defeat Megatron.
@ImFromFinland787 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Scalpel DID the brain surgery 💀
@UltratronNitro8 ай бұрын
Why didn’t Sam use the Allspark to revive Optimus? That’s because Optimus was literally shot through the chest. His spark was shot through. And the Matrix can produce Energon, but it can’t make sparks. That’s why Jazz wasn’t revived in the first one. So the Matrix is something that could restore his spark.
@thegreattreon0177 Жыл бұрын
Lol Sam reading that book so quick was classic!
@garrettsmith6102 Жыл бұрын
Um, you forgot to answer the questions you mentioned could be answered by this theory, why did Sam not tell the Autobots about the second cube sliver, and why did he not use it to revive Optimus.
@agentnacho2029 Жыл бұрын
I sorta presumed he tried to ignore it because he really just wanted to live a normal college life and hoped the autobots wouldn't get involved
@blueraccoon1088 Жыл бұрын
Funny yesterday, I was telling a friend the visions were the language of the primes and the vision were close to the sparks of the matrix. Because the matrix houses thier sparks
@christianparrish3292 Жыл бұрын
You should make a video about the mystery of the matrix throughout the transformers franchise.
@MogusMasterSaikawa22 Жыл бұрын
I'm very excited for the video where you go over why he didn't just revive optimus that really bothered me as a kid.
@novustalks75256 ай бұрын
The matrix absorbing the allspark energy and becoming mystical like it is everywhere else is a really cool idea!!! It would have been a great way to keep the allspark relevant in some form for future films. But alas...
@BenedictF79B Жыл бұрын
Now that after you explain about primes able to regenerate matrix or destroy it at Will ,it all makes sense now why it never get any scratch or damaged in battle ,thus also giving more Lore about how powerful the primes is ,like ,the place where they meet same probably comparable to afterlife🗿
@Bumblebee0400 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that the symbols went into the Matrix, but up until now i never understood why they did, this just made so much more sense as to how that happened
@Greatshadowfighter Жыл бұрын
How the soundtrack of your intro called ? Also, good video
@Brazil10003 Жыл бұрын
Theorymus, the reason why the mentioning of the Matrix of Leadership becoming a new vessel for the AllSpark didn't make to the final cut, is because that dialogue was supposed to be in the original ending, which was changed to the version we got due to the Writer Strike and ILM bitting more than it could chew, just like you said in your video about the original ROTF ending. While it wasn't mentioned or shown onscreen, the simple fact that the Matrix returned in DOTM shows that the Matrix really became a new vessel for the AllSpark despite no one speaking about it. In fact, the DOTM novelization says that the AllSpark learned all of Earth's languages while it was inside Optimus' chest as the Matrix of Leadership, and when it was used to bring Sentinel back, said knowledge was passed to him, explaining how he was able to speak in English upon revival. Last but not least, the reason people didn't know about this is because that detail was never mentioned onscreen, and the fact that the Aligned Continuity decided to portray the AllSpark and the Matrix of Leadership as completely seperate artifacts didn't help things, either... that is until now, thanks to your video. Great video Theorymus Prime! 👏
@juanbisonosuero36502 ай бұрын
Honestly, the only question I ever had about this is why he never asked bumblebee about it. He knew about the cube. He knew how to make it smaller why he wouldn’t know what they say. Instead, he just asked the twins they don’t know and leave it like that.
@Quantum0110 Жыл бұрын
I love transformers theory’s they are so interesting 😃
@christianparrish3292 Жыл бұрын
Alright! I've been waiting for this! Good morning everyone!
@RealPigdodger10 Жыл бұрын
Finally The symbols in his head is finally explained and being better explained, than making fun of sam having a spass attack, Thank You Man❤❤
@valiveti05 Жыл бұрын
theorymus singlehandedly mending the plot holes in a multi million dollar movie franchise
@battletrap_editz333 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered how he did and 2 minutes is the earliest I've been to a video
@Achieme Жыл бұрын
Not just that but when both Sam and Decepticons used the shard they never thought about using it again think about after Megatron and Jetfire came to life both shards were never brought up or thought about using it again. It also reminds me when Airrazor never told her team that she was being controlled by scourge, even Elena knew something was wrong with her but never brought it up to her teammates to possibly prevent her death or the terrorcons from getting the key
@ImFromFinland787 Жыл бұрын
I just realized Sam never told Optimus about the symbols
@glennhadiwitanto2 Жыл бұрын
Yep me too
@DillonTrinhProductions Жыл бұрын
Nice video as always Theorymus.
@TechRiota Жыл бұрын
You should do a video on why he dissapeared after the dark side
@For_king_and_empire Жыл бұрын
Reason why was that he thought the tf story was over. Canon reason is he dead.
@Ericnewnes08 Жыл бұрын
Did theorymus just fix revenge of the fallen plotholes?
@Unrealcameron13 Жыл бұрын
I have always wondered how he got rid of them
@The_real_barney Жыл бұрын
can you make a what if I survived sideswipe plz
@Scoob887 Жыл бұрын
You should make a video on how and why different transformers have human aspects like how hound has a beard or how sentinel has one.
@slicer7816 Жыл бұрын
i think u should make vid explaining why rachet was on the harbor in transformers 4 because it mystery why he was there and how cemetery wind knew where he was there
@carlosbanegas7561 Жыл бұрын
My theory for Sams cure was in that thing Simmons told Sam to slip under his tongue. In the scene where they arrive at the air museum, Simmons gives Sam something that was in Oreo cookies. Or was that for something else? Great video by the way!
@stormcallerking3315 Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one to notice that Sam talked about Sentinel primes space bridge technology
@marialopez-ql9ec Жыл бұрын
Ohhhhhh I get it now, thats Theorymus :)
@wowablezastone9219 Жыл бұрын
Wow I had no idea what happened to Sam's symbols you know what I prefer your explaining rather the novel you know how to fix transformers l love the video tho theorymus prime ❤️👍😊❤❤👍👍👍
@marialopez-ql9ec Жыл бұрын
Velma show in a nutshell: 3:06
@HelenaSan425 Жыл бұрын
Ngl Sam witwicky is a pretty decent human protag in the Three movies But Cade Yeager is much cooler than him
@FireFlies002 Жыл бұрын
I’ve also always wondered this. Now I know because of the best theory man.
@Ybdhan Жыл бұрын
Could you do Sentinel Prime for the next what If I survived?, maybe even Optimus can forgive Sentinel even after killing Ironhide
@heatbrothers8322 Жыл бұрын
During the 12 second mark, i noticed two characters that looked like dropkick and shatter, but I have no idea if it was him or not
@amarionknowles6984 Жыл бұрын
Hey I got a question that could make a cool video in transformers 07 how come the all spark didn't fix bumblebees' voice box and it fixed frenzy's body
@Cadeho3 Жыл бұрын
Even in real life, if you did one thing differently, your whole adventure or ordeal could have been prevented...
@jaredvillarreal4362 Жыл бұрын
Also, in g1, rodimus is able to go to the matrix and see cybertrons past to see how the great war started so sam is like rodimus traveling into the matrix to earn the matrix just like rodimus trying yo earn his confidence as a leader.
@rainbowracer9576 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Job!! 🌟👏
@Jack-kx5em4 ай бұрын
So I guess I think that Sam was having a mental breakdown at the party and his class in college since he keeps seeing the Cybertronian symbols after when he touched the AllSpark shard at his home, but he didn't tell Optimus about the Energon symbols inside of his head which we all know that Sam was gone completely snapped because of symbols got him distracted when The Fallen hires Megatron to see the Energon symbols in Sam's brain. and that explains me why that he didn't just tell Optimus about the symbols that they were inside his head. Since the Fallen's brothers were stronger than him they stealed the Matrix of Leadership were the made the tomb of the Primes.
@wooper-ro8sl Жыл бұрын
This is a good question i just never stopped to question it
@WingsOfFireAgain Жыл бұрын
I have a theory on why there was no sound when he snapped out of it at the frat party. Maybe it's because it was only a minor episode and there were already loud sounds going on around him.
@Hayden_tdd Жыл бұрын
Person with epilepsy here when I to have Episodes of my own I tend to not remember them as well. And people all around me ask Am I ok meanwhile I am unsure what they're talking about.
@stemi677 ай бұрын
If Sam did tell Optimus about the symbols, the deceptions would still kill prime and the autobots would not survive or win the battle in Cairo.
@grey98037 ай бұрын
If you think sam not using the shard to revive Optimus is a plot hole then you never paid attention to the mov😂
@tevinhoward4419 Жыл бұрын
The languages of the Primes known as the seekers in ancient times on the quest for the energon lead to the fallen's revenge against the brothers to the destroy the earth's sun using the star harvester getting after the matrix from the 3 king doorway in ancient Egypt of the Intel of operation firestorm
@mikeydavid4500 Жыл бұрын
"So he can live life once again" Until AOE came around
@gabriellecausaren5554 Жыл бұрын
Bro teased this video 11 days ago i've literally been checking every single day so i am a little mad
@shadow-lo5dy Жыл бұрын
Video idea: how/why did unicron become earth
@AndrewLoesch-zh6yk Жыл бұрын
Theorymus what happened to wheel during the last night???
@alexallen9640 Жыл бұрын
Nice theory and observation 🙂👍🤖🚙
@carlosbanegas7561 Жыл бұрын
All my life I thought Sam was in heaven but being in the matrix makes perfect sense in the TF world :)
@mohdnazir797 Жыл бұрын
Hey trans.can you do a rewrite of all of the transformers movies❤ especially the last knight and aoe😊nice theory by the way❤❤keep up the theories❤🎉🎉
@Jayx-zi7zs Жыл бұрын
Can you do a WIIS to bonecrusher or anyone else? (Also I am not begging I'm just asking)
@TacoDELLTACOBELL9553 Жыл бұрын
Adding on to your thoughts about the primes being spiritual connected to the matrix I 100 perfect agree I think that the primes should have had more to do and say regarding there connection to the matrix I think it would have been cool to see all the fallen primes like when the fallen died he would have his soul imprinted into the matrix and Optimus could talk or see the primes like how black panther(t challa) could see his father in the spiritual plane or how like in the anime my hero academia one for all is a power similar to the primes how the name is passed on with its power but each new welder imprints them self onto it also love your videos me and my lil cousin watch your videos and bond over our love for transformers so thank you man I hope great blessings come your way❤
@Techmaster7032Official Жыл бұрын
The earlier draft added more consistancy, then DOTM would contradict it by Prime saying that info was lost when the Allspark was destroyed, when asked about Sentinal's journy through space... The bayverse loved breaking its own lore didn't it?
@Danimatronicspeed Жыл бұрын
that scene had me rolling of laughter
@rcwstopmotionproductions Жыл бұрын
Even hishie dubs asks this question why didn’t Sam use the alspark fragment to revive optimus
@SZH4thewin Жыл бұрын
you know tfi creations tdid explain how sam transfer the nergy into the matrix
@amyawolford Жыл бұрын
Great vid
@gaardus8682 Жыл бұрын
I’d assume that while the allspark’s knowledge/contents are within same’s mind, then that would include it’s afterlife, since when a transformer dies they return to the allspark. The Primes are dead, so they’re back within the allspark, the allspark is/was in sam’s mind, so they have the ability to contact him through it, and not the matrix. …BuT THat’S JUsT a THeOry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@Karswillson11 ай бұрын
What is the meaning of Sam's cryptic statements when he has a mental breakdown in astronomy 101 class?
@urboimemer Жыл бұрын
10/10 this makes sense as it wqs explain in a way my brain can understand
@legotransformershaun Жыл бұрын
Hello maybe do a an analysis on a bumblebee
@HavenTGM Жыл бұрын
Here is another theory mikealas motorcycle is one of the arcee twins because you can see the autobot symbol on the front, make a video about that
@afghanboy770 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos
@elishawilson5342 Жыл бұрын
In other words the primes destroyed the matrix to test Sam and see if he was willing to go on faith and carry on when he passed the test it showed the primes he earned it and the revived him and the matrix
@fish-4092 Жыл бұрын
I would ask if you could make the outro "directed by Micheal Bay"
@heatherdeskins1294 Жыл бұрын
Can you tell me why prime and megaton were brothers meanwhile they were never brothers I the early g1 show
@bradyrobinson6253 Жыл бұрын
Can you do more rise of the beasts videos
@SagePitre Жыл бұрын
The Novel literally is the way the movie should have been.