How Scrap Spawns in Lethal Company!

[@call_me_bread]

For those asking: Keys are different. I believe they can kinda spawn anywhere but are very common in brick rooms (hallways).

[@sanakhtthefatetwister9116]

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure keys spawn in the general vicinity of a locked door and not on the locked side of it.

[@sethmiclea910]

@@sanakhtthefatetwister9116 I'm pretty sure that both sides are locked.

[@thebeaverkidd2970]

What mod are you using to look at yourself at the end?

[@sanakhtthefatetwister9116]

What I mean is if a locked door is preventing access to a room the key won't be inside the locked room.@@sethmiclea910

[@ghostamster]

@@thebeaverkidd2970 likely freecam mod

[@Timof2009]

I always call these rooms “Loot potential” because they are usually where I run to find loot. The maze of hallways almost never has loot. Good to see my hunch was right!

[@hydrantdude504]

Oh interesting. I was researching this myself the past few days. Couple things I would add/clarify: -Loot is picked in a step seperate from choosing its location. How many loot spawning rooms you have is irrelevant to how much loot spawns. Once the list of loot is generated, it randomly selects spawnpoints for each item out of the available spawners, never reusing a spawner until all have been used once. -During the spawner picking, certain items will not use just any spawner. Lamps, Golden Cups, Magnifying Glasses, and Toothpaste can only use tabletop spawners. If the list of tabletop spawners is exhausted, all the spawners are reset and you do start seeing more double uses. -Loot spawners have parameterized radii. Also, this radius is spherical, not circular. If it selects a point which is out of bounds, it is snapped to the nearest valid mesh point, meaning substantially more loot spawns at walls and corners. Most tabletop spawns have a radius of 4, most rooms have a radius of 15, but some larger rooms have bigger, for instance the server room has a radius of 25, which is about double the size of the room (half a room length in all directions) -Mansion modular tunnels tiles - those are the ones with no pillars / golden trim on the walls - have 2 types, one with a spawner and one without. The ones with a spawner have a higher ceiling and 3 door locations. Ones without have a lower ceiling, sometimes with beams, and no possible doors. -Tabletop spawns in mansion are tied to actual tables spawning in 3 room types. The window room is one of them, but it doesn’t always have a table. The kitchen counter is always a tabletop, and the room can generate up to 2 additional tables, making it possible for a 4-spawner kitchen when including the general one in the center. The purple room with a T-tetromino footprint and a curved shelf you can’t walk around is the last location a tabletop can generate. Tables may generate in other rooms but they do not have associated spawnpoints. -The purple Q-pentomino shaped room on mansion has 2 spawnpoints, and one of them is in the void below. This lower one has about half of its radius outside of the distance where loot can snap in bounds. This room is responsible for void spawns, and essentially has 1.5 spawners because of it. -The purple L-triomino shaped room has 2 general spawners. Do not confuse with the L-tetromino shaped room which only has one despite being larger. The ceiling beams run in one direction in the triominp room and both directions in tetromino room. -In facility, the large industrial room has 2 general spawners and 2 tabletop spawners. All other rooms have 1 general spawner unless they have none. The apparatus has an additional tabletop spawner on it. Loot rooms have too many spawners for me to describe but generally they have spawners associated with the shelves and pallets they generate, some of those shelves/pallets don’t always generate though. Pallets are tabletop spawners, shelves are general or small item.

[@uhsquid]

with spawning items out of bounds, i have had items spawn out of bounds by main entrance (behind the door, i could see it with scanner) any idea why that could happen?

[@czpiaor]

Wow, this very helpful, thanks for posting! How did you find this out?

[@hydrantdude504]

@@czpiaor ILspy to read source code, AssetRipper to export a unity project from the packaged game, then unity editor to see the room tiles and what objects, such as the scrap spawners, are in them. Notepad to check the parameters of the spawners because I couldn't figure out how to see them in unity editor.

[@hydrantdude504]

@@uhsquid The area behind the door is probably a valid floor surface to snap to. Valid surfaces aren't necessarily limited to places the player can actually go, it's essentially any floor surface with airspace above it. I think you can actually stand behind the door with some clipping. Bread pointed out the top of the gray thingy in the locker room as another example of this. People seem to be aware of lamps spawning inside of the kitchen counter, which I would hypothesize is because of the lamp's vertical spawn offset being too low, but the overhead part of the counter also can have items spawn on top of it which you can't access. In the library, on the second level, the corner bookshelf is curved, and there's a smallish triangle behind it where items can spawn which are inaccessible.

[@hydrantdude504]

@@czpiaor ILSpy, AssetRipper, Unity editor, and Notepad.

[@michaelwilkins1664]

An important thing to note about beehives is that they spawn completely independently from the rest of the scrap. For example, March has a max object count of 17, but you can get 20+ if you get lucky with beehives. Beehives also spawn in a little bit after the rest of the scrap spawns. So if you terminal scan right before the hives spawn, and then scan again after they spawn, you can figure out how many hives are on the moon.

[@Jonas-Seiler]

Probably because scrap is spawned on map generation while hives are spawned with the outdoor entity spawn cycle

[@Thebossof935]

Thanks for the video, bread, this will save me a ton of time searching for loot in the maze.

[@darthollie]

Best information channel for sure, could you possibly do a video about the ambient noises potentially? I've heard shit from babies crying, to laughing, to slurpy noises in the entrance, and after all this time I still can't find any patterns or awareness about what needs to be reacted to or what is just RNG noises

[@SuperAmazingJared]

There is a single noise that matters for ambient sounds: you can hear enemies when they're about to come out of a vent and when the vent opens. That is the only relevant ambient sound, everything else is random. The vent sound is kinda subtle, you'll hear quiet banging noises and then the vent will pop open.

[@lamegamertime]

Most of the time ambient sounds don't mean much; anything you don't recognize or isn't repeating is probably ambient. However, there are certain ambient sounds that only play at high insanity/paranoia, and obviously that makes you more likely (but not guaranteed) to be haunted by the ghost girl. I'd suggest looking for a video that compiles them.

[@darthollie]

@@lamegamertimeso how does insanity work then? That's what I was sorta punching for really

[@Tatercon]

​@@darthollie random value vased on iirc how much you move your mouse,how alone you are, and maybe lighting not sure on that

[@lamegamertime]

@@darthollie Insanity increases when you are alone (moreso when in the facility or outside at night), and decreases when you are near other players (including dead ones) or listening to players via walkie-talkie. In singleplayer it decreases while outdoors (not that it makes a difference unless you're using a mod to add insanity effects), but in multiplayer it still goes up. It resets at the start of every day. The ghost girl is more likely to pick you if you have the highest insanity, turn your camera the most frequently, have not been injured before, or are holding (in your hand) a single loot item worth 150+. Insanity is the largest factor out of these. This is just info I got from the wiki so take it with a grain of salt

[@Astrawboy_NameAlreadyInUse]

It's a very organized explanation.

[@MothGirlHina]

I hope it gets tweaked a little at some point because getting scrap that can't physically be reached (without bugs) is so annoying... Like last week's challenge moon having a Gold Bar inside a pit, or sometimes Lamps being stuck inside counters, and as you mentioned, items being on top of the giant pillar in the locker room

[@wll1500]

The lamps in counters thing seems to happen nearly every single time to me

[@MothGirlHina]

@@wll1500 Yeah I tend to get it more than half the time, really sucks and takes SO much time even with a Jetpack to cart items to and from ship, bringing a Ladder from landing, and getting in before the clock starts while also having the kitchen beside spawn, you can waste hours trying to get it

[@MellowhearttheCat]

I once saw one of the mask scrap in the jump room pit. Was playing singleplayer so it just spawned there. Sucks but oh well

[@2nys]

u can always get the lamp out with a ladder

[@MothGirlHina]

@@2nys And how many hours of the day does that take for one piece of scrap?

[@ConnorTheUndying]

Lootspawning in Mansions is insane. Loot can stack in those places, by my experience. I picked up a 7 Ball in main, and there was a wedding ring right under it.

[@qui-gonjinn3322]

Love mansions

[@twotruckslyrics]

ngl i like locker loot rooms more, ive found so many scrap in one locker !!

[@madmatrac]

this video actually explains 1 thing - titan is a B class moon oin terms of possible loot. most part of facility is a maze to fill moon size, with less loot possible rooms than other moons. and more of this, there were runs when bout 20 of spawned loot was inaccesible due to spawning in pits or inside other objects.

[@adicsbtw]

Here's what I can find from my research looking into the game a bit more Key Spawns: Keys get spawned in a pass separate to scrap spawns, instead having a chance to spawn at every AI pathing node within a cube 16 meters on each side. One key is spawned for every locked door in a level. No more, no less Manor: It seems that all tiles have a radius-based scrap spawner, but some specific props have their own specific scrap spawnpoints. It's the exact same types as in other rooms, just much smaller. Some tables seem to have them, but not all of them. For example, in the kitchen tile, there are 3 table arrangements. One has 2 tables with scrap spawns, one has one with and one without, and one has only one table, which doesn't have a spawn here is the full table breakdown for kitchen Table Arrangement A: The round table will be directly in line with the counter. In this arrangement, both the round table and coffee table have a separate spawn radius Table Arrangement B: The round table is tucked in a corner and there is a coffee table on the wall. Only the round table spawns loot Table Arrangement C: The round table is tucked in the corner, but where there is normally a coffee table in arrangement B, there is now instead a bookshelf. No extra spawns will be present in this layout Additionally, the counter always has its own extra spawn radius. This spawn radius is directly underneath the overhead lamp nearest to the wall, so it has a high chance of generating items in the room neighboring it (anywhere within 4 meters specifically) also, some hallway rooms seem to have duplicate scrap spawning spots, so some have double the scrap of others. I'd try to describe their differences if I could, but it's hard to explain well in text what the different rooms look like. Also, if you see a round table tucked away in the corner in a hallway, that one doesn't spawn scrap. Only one table in the hallway tiles for manor spawns scrap, and it will spawn in either a 3-way or 4-way intersection, depending on how other rooms do or don't attach to the tile in question. oh, one more thing with mansion hallways, there is actually one that doesn't spawn scrap, and that one is the one that makes up the really large open rooms. It has a little lattice of beams on the roof in a grid pattern. The fireplace room does not have increase spawn rates, and neither does the TV room, although it does have a table in it that spawns items also, item spawns are slightly different between table spawns and general spawns. They're mostly the same, but fancy lamps, toothpaste, and goblets can only spawn on tables. Goblets can also spawn as "small items", but this only applies on facility layout I believe.

[@Unsolver]

Just a guess, but, I think mansions probably prioritize loot spawns around certain props rather than rooms. Item almost always spawn touching a table, bookshelf, carpet, chair, or in the most specific case, the kitchen counter (inaccessible lamp spawns, I'm looking at you).

[@fastral7769]

The amount of people that comment, “I’ve seen loot in blah blahblah” in the first 40 seconds is crazy.

[@hashirakram3327]

Oh, that circle actually makes sense. Just found a V8 engine in the corner of the bracken room.

[@F-22-Rapt0r]

This will help my later runs for the company

[@Gelfling66]

The image at 4:26 should have been shown a lot sooner IMO

[@nemesis041]

I've seen scrap spawn in the pits in the jump grate rooms in the facility. Usually most noticeable if it's something like a fancy lamp. And yes, it spawns down there, nobody has died carrying it, because I've seen it in solo play. I've also seen scrap spawn INSIDE other objects, rending them irretrievable, such as the large cinder foundation blocks in the pipe room. So not everything is considered out of bounds.

[@julianhernandez5732]

Another reason to have a bias for mansion maps. Love it

[@kiff8071]

For mansion, small loot also tends to spawn on the smaller rooms' bookcases

[@ceooforcasupremacy8012]

I occasionally find loot in the “bracken” room

[@rnbispop27]

2:20 for everyone talking about loot in main/backrooms

[@theexoticmango3783]

The amount of people saying they've seen loot in main or the "bracken" room clearly show they haven't watched the video he literally explains why that happens shortly after explaining that in code they're not meant to spawn loot

[@Thy_Guardian]

ikr, I was about to comment that but I waited because I knew this guy did his research right and I was right I hate when people can't wait like a minute

[@infinabit]

Fun fact: Loot can actually spawn at the main entrance directly. However, it'll be something big like a large axle or engine.

[@IreallywishIwasafish]

My screen name is toast so I approve of bread

[@Markfan-rq6de]

I occasionally find big bolts, laser pointers, and metal sheets in the brick hallways. I also sometimes find some loot in the main entrance on hard difficulty moons (rend, dine, titan). I also sometimes fine large axels or metal sheets in the office (yellow room). All these ate no even close to loot spawning places. Can someone explain pls?

[@typethorn8496]

yeah he's just wrong lol

[@Etyman]

great video, super helpful. suprised to see that all the loot circles are the same size. I guess that means that one would find more cross over loot spawns near smalller rooms. I wonder what a mineshaft (belt room) loot circle looks like? I would imagine the circle would be too small to even fill it, does it have 2 of them? one bigger one? a normal sized one with some exact spawns? also another question, are these loot circles, loot spheres? can a loot tile underneath say a maze tile spawn loot in the maze? thanks again for the vid, best lethal content I know of ❤

[@hydrantdude504]

The radius is a parameter that varies and yes they are spheres. Belt room has 2 big general spawners which are both near the middle, as well as 2 tabletop spawners, one on the pallets under the stairs and one on the pallets by the forklift. Tabletop spawners have a small radius about double the size of the pallet.

[@TheRealMrBillyBob]

Not-Bracken room has spawned loot for me before. Doubt teammate dropped loot in there.

[@wj11jam78]

I swear locker rooms are the best in the game. The lockers they spawn often have like 3 or 4 pieces on scrap in them, and up to 3 lockers can spawn in the one room... I think? Anyway, Ive had days where we cleared almost all the loot on titan just because we got a goated locker room

[@gobblerflonkler-wp8nf]

i get this was 7 months ago but i've found plenty of scrap in the main entrance brackrooms and the hallways

[@call_me_bread]

@@gobblerflonkler-wp8nf so as mentioned in the video it’s based on a radius. So if there’s a tile near a loot room it can have scrap. But for example a “bracken room” at the end of a maze tile will NEVER have scrap

[@Hervoo]

After watching your videos for weeks now I've get that your player model head is a bread

[@Idle_isAFK]

1k+ subs in a day? This guy is on fire

[@ZoraEpsilon571]

I'm most interested in what "spawn weight" refers to in mods Is it the % chance to spawn or is it the the number it's going to eat out of the available number until the map stops spawning loot example: higher scrap spawn weight = one of two things, either it has a higher chance to spawn, or, it eats a bigger number from the total the moon can spawn for that run. Meaning if it's a bigger number then the amount of scrap is going to be less. That doesn't make a ton of sense to me but it's possible given it doesn't explain anything in the mod configs.

[@Jonas-Seiler]

Have you already done a video on how the map layout generation works?

[@rainoftime37]

I love kitchens. Unfortunately, the last time I found like 7 items in the kitchen (including a cash register), a nutcracker and bracken decided it would be really funny to camp the kitchen when I left to find my teammates so they could help me carry everything. 💀 (I tried killing the nutcracker btw. It saw me through a closed door. I was mad.)

[@ScopedIn-2]

bread is good. bread is nice. bread is god.

[@Kitanaoren]

This is very useful, thanks for sharing!

[@Woogoo336]

I had the worst mansion experience when I got it on vow. It was absolutely massive so few items. It was not worth it.

[@davidusher5504]

Ive had loot spawn on top of one of the gray thing in the locker room before. It was a good bar but there was nothing i could do to get it i was so frustrated lol

[@Hack-3m_64]

This is really helpful, thanks!

[@jefre21_]

i have defo seen scrap spawn in main and the backroom looking rooms

[@GreatRamilYT]

What mod are you using for free camera?

[@Dantheman_1942]

Would love one of these for enemy spawning

[@drls1313]

So that room ISNT bracken room?! What is it then?!

[@barkatem]

babe wake up, bread posted

[@reedie8076]

interesting and insiteful thanks bread!

[@ImNotBirb]

Very good video, commenting for the algorithm :)

[@쿠키-v9p]

Nice video. What is the out of body mode?

[@Soluna7]

I'd like to know more about how the map generates. Idk if that info is available atm tho

[@Molandria]

I don't know the story but, my friends and I play vanilla, no mods, and I have found an item in the Bracken Room. : /

[@SilverFoilHat]

What mod do you use to get that overview?

[@Radevirot]

are keys counted as loot too? because i've found quite a lot of them in bricks and would like to know if this is a sign of a loot room being close or not great content btw! love your channel

[@Thy_Guardian]

In case you didn't see, he added in the comments that keys are different from scrap and spawn anywhere

[@MarkSkater]

i once found 2 turret on table

[@firestorm147]

ive gotten loot in main and bracken room unless mods affect room spawning conditions (both vanilla objects btw) so idrk if thats true

[@ham164cs]

I have a question, what is a table spawn? you mentioned it when talking about pallets. Great video btw!

[@wll1500]

It's exactly what it sounds like- when loot spawns on a table. Such as the table in kitchen tiles

[@hydrantdude504]

Table spawns have a small radius and are the only selectable spawnpoint for lamps, golden cups, toothpaste, and magnifying glasses. If you see one of these not near a table, there is probably a room above or below you with one.

[@ham164cs]

@@hydrantdude504 what did he mean when he was talking about pallets? do pallets work in a similar way to tables?

[@hydrantdude504]

@@ham164cs yes, on facility maps, pallets are the equivalent to tables on mansion.

[@blepomorph419]

Man I dislike the brick rooms. Any advice on navigating those or do you just keep going and hope you reach a walkway basically?

[@dash_in_der_zockerbude7282]

is the circle also the reason there can be scrap out of bounds?

[@dreamcyberium]

Do you know how beehives generate, and if they have specific spawn spots?

[@volkxo6612]

random, chances of beehives spawning is different per map (you can find a table displaying this) but march i believe has the highest and usually I see them a lot more often on maps with the grass and tree outside (vow, march) but they can still spawn on the desert/mesa type maps as well (assurance,offense, sometimes experimentation).

[@gafoneo3727]

I'm interested why loot can sometimes spawn in the death pit?

[@sander9580]

does this circle spawn thing also apply if theres a room above or below it or is it just only on the same level

[@hydrantdude504]

It’s spherical. Loot can snap to rooms above and below the one it spawned in.

[@buckethelmetgaming4682]

Ik its not too big of a deal, but what about keys? I seem to find then literally anywhere-

[@odog6009]

The backrooms can spawn loot. I have found loot in it about 3 times in total after 100 hours of playing

[@call_me_bread]

Yes. I mention this in the video.

[@Thy_Guardian]

What about if the item spawn outside of the map ? Does the game prevent that to make it spawn inside to the closest initial spawn ?

[@thegamingfetus]

What about glitched/outside of the map loot? Is there any specific ways to find them or like you gotta know previously (like in challenge moons, for example)

[@slump8665]

how did you come across knowing about the circle radius of how loot spawning worked

[@grafzwerg]

How do you zoom out and see the facility like that?

[@hud3]

Hey nice video, one question, is it normal for lamps to spawn inside the drawers or whatever those are if you know what I mean? I saw up to four of them spawning there and dont know if its a bug maybe caused by some mods (I don't play with a lot of mods, just the essentials, most of them client side).

[@stillsteel.]

It's a bug and happens with everybody

[@sirjamesfancy]

What are mansion exact spawns? Also can you cover cave interior?

[@call_me_bread]

@@sirjamesfancy mansions don’t have exact spawns. Every tile can pretty much have loot. Cave interior I went over in the mineshaft guide on my channel.

[@sirjamesfancy]

@@call_me_bread Bread, you beautiful baked good!

[@-prippla-1833]

Does this also apply to the keys? If I find a key, can I assume there’s a loot tile close by?

[@fanOfMinecraft-UAs_channel]

What about keys spawning in tunnel networks? Or is that the radius thing?

[@username3788]

bread on his way to suck the joy and creativity out of another co op based game

[@pancakewafflez]

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

[@zerphyxios]

They do spawn those places though???

[@ShardstapoRotmg]

Thanks Bread.

[@l3rn465]

as always some great piece of content bread, thank you, love watching your streams with my gf

[@Greenspy.]

I wanted to ask if keys follow the same rules as these loot spawning rules, because i do tend to find a lot of keys in hallways so i wonder if its the same or keys have different spawning rules.

[@call_me_bread]

Keys are different. I’m not sure the specific spawns but they mainly spawn in brick rooms (hallways)

[@fastral7769]

I believe that keys spawn before other items, which happens to result in them being top priority for lightning strikes. (Correct me if I’m wrong)

[@Corbin4306]

Mod used for the free cam?

[@hparsnip9]

does this apply to keys? i feel like i find them exclusively in brick rooms

[@pot-wielders]

Bread.

[@deceptinqhd]

not sure if it was said, but does this mean loot can spawn outside the map?

[@4ehoBek_4ehoBek]

Keys are opposite?

[@tucznik4778]

Thank you for ur guide

[@timtsai2593]

Question: does this affect where keys spawn too?

[@LordAminity]

Is there info I should be aware of as aa terminal user? Maybe some tricks or info we can derive from this?

[@diztinger]

Just don't lead your teammates to a nutcracker while saying its a hoarding bug and also make sure the turrets don't face the direction of the loot (if so, defuse them).

[@michaelihc2452]

Hi, what mod are you using to fly around?

[@call_me_bread]

@@michaelihc2452 imperium

[@Jhost90]

Great informative video! Now excuse me while I go the bathroom and throw up

[@creeperboom9813]

Do keys follow the same logic? Or do they just spawn wherever

[@fingerbvngbeng9851]

All this backwards research of the game and no one made a mod of loot spawning not inside shelves and lockers feelsbad

[@Azertxyz]

4:16 don't squint...

[@Thy_Guardian]

NAAAH I think I got it..

[@Trident_Gaming03]

Do keys count as loot? I find those spawning in brick labyrinths often

[@hydrantdude504]

Keys have their own separate generation code, and are generated at the same time as locked doors. they do not count as loot.

[@Trident_Gaming03]

@@hydrantdude504 Ah, that explains it, thank you

[@O_Obsidious]

and just like that lethal company and everything that made it scary/fun to most people are diminished to a sweat fest of min/maxing, with every mechanic explained to the last fun drop lol, i don't mean to hate, but phasmophobia had this treatment and it ended up making the whole thing just seem whack I don't just mean this btw, I also mean things like "oh the door handle being on this side means you're going to the exit" and whatnot in addition to this new tech, i just wish it wasn't so cheesy lol

[@solstice-e2h]

what mod is the freecaM?

[@call_me_bread]

Freecam

[@Oretal]

Neat!! Thank you :]

[@Lucas-st1xq]

main does spawn loot

[@fastral7769]

Watch the video

[@Worker225]

Wait the DIAGONAL HALLWAYS ARE NOT A MOD??! 🤨

[@call_me_bread]

No lmao. Came out in v47

[@fruitedlight]

im PRETTY SURE I have found a toy cube in a backrooms room

[@call_me_bread]

because it can if its within a separate loot tile radius but the backrooms room itself cannot spawn scrap (this was in the video)

[@W0lf3n65]

I've definitely seen scrap in the main entrance room, usually it is just a tattered sheet in the corner.. am I tripping?

[@justinwitt6364]

bread 👍

[@skillato9000]

That's weird, might because of the mods (or loot bug?) but I DID find scraps both in main and the Bracken room, I was so surprised by the latter and the former seemed like a common occurance. For the latter I remember we chose a difficult standard moon, now I can't tell you if that was a mid or hard moon but I rationalized it as the game not having enough room to spawn the scrap so it resorted to the bracken room (might have been a glitch?). Btw the scrap that I found was a single kettle.

[@LordofFear6970]

No I have too, it’s kinda common for scrap the spawn in the corners of main entrance on factory

[@Radevirot]

please watch the video, particularly the part where he talks about radiuses

[@Uhrenkerl]

Scrap

[@gusbichek]

bred

[@hexan97]

Just wanted to say that I had spawned lot in "backroom" also in main, sometimes i can be even stucked "spawned" in a pipeline in stairs on industrial, another is in locker room that it can spawn on top of sides.anyway nice vid Bread

[@PTMGamerTVotis]

ive only seen one or two items in the supposed bracken room, but that pipe thing always hides something good like a robot!

[@bonthebunnycat667]

Yeah, I've had loot spawn in Main, Backrooms and pipes

[@ardynizunia9709]

He addressed that in the video..

[@hexan97]

ye yousually anyway u use rightclick nonstop so u can see sometimes even keys bh wall too xD @@PTMGamerTVotis

[@Duck_side]

How long since you last saw anything spawn in that room though. I haven't seen a single thing spawn in that room since v45 came out