How Seelies can Foretell Fate | Genshin Impact Theory

[@DragonMJE]

This video was supposed to be 19 minutes long 🙂 Anyway, some notes and corrections below:- *Notes* - anna zhang in the comments pointed out the resemblance between the Wedjat Eye and the Matrix of Prescience. A very cool observation if you take into consideration what Rukkhadevata did with the Akasha System as well. - I feel like I shouldn’t have to say this, but the “Good Fortune Slip” and the 3 5-Stars are obviously a coincidence. Don’t try to pull just because you got a “Good Fortune” Slip from Gendou Ringo. - There are more types of Jade besides the two mentioned in the video, however, Nephrite and Jadeite are the most important ones for the sake of simplicity. Other examples include Omphacite, Kosmochlor, and Carbonate Jade. Worth noting that Jadeite is the most expensive by far. *Corrections* - I misspelled Foresee in the Thumbnail, I fixed it now. - At 19:22 I misspoke and said 'interference' instead of 'inference' in Bayesian inference.

[@biazacha]

Two things I remembered: not only Nabu Malikata predicted her own death and made preparations that ended with the creation of the Amrita Pool during the Cataclysm, but the other time we saw fortune telling being dead on was the little girl in Sumeru during one of the dream samsaras - sure it was played as a gag about the community shipping Traveler with everybody, but the timing is suspect looking back.

[@dear_totheheart]

The longer and more indepth the better!

[@oldstories54]

Thank you for another 40 minutes of high quality Rock Lore™

[@genesischaparro8954]

IT'S A ROCK FACT!

[@tracychallice1099]

all in honour of over the garden wall 10 year anniversary

[@WhiteGold-tg1qj]

“Genshin Impact Lore Video” - Geology: 20% - Chemistry: 30% - History: 25% - Honkai: Star Rail: 15% - Psychology: 5% - Genshin Impact: 5% Yup, that’s a Genshin Impact Theory alright…

[@Sacration]

Philosophy, theosophy too

[@WhiteGold-tg1qj]

@@Sacration Do you mean Theology? Because he doesn't cover Theosophy in this video. Theosophy is a crazy religion related to the Narzissenkreuz Ordo.

[@Keiki-kun]

Seens about right Makes sense

[@darkroyal2276]

Learning geology just to understand seelies. 😅

[@Sacration]

@@WhiteGold-tg1qj Yeah I was talking about genshin Lore in general, my bad

[@DedeTheHut]

If anything, this video provided us with the canonical power level of Teyvat's Diviners:- - Layla --> Desciple Tier - Mona --> Advanced Tier - Citlali --> Master Tier - Barbeloth --> Grandmaster Tier - Vedrfolnir --> God Tier - Gendou Ringo --> Ultra Cosmic +++ Tier

[@AlexisNess-mn4zw]

And yet Vedrfolnir couldnt foresee Childe delaying the narvhal and breaking fate.

[@Junirules360]

@@AlexisNess-mn4zw Technically they did not need to All that they foresaw came true , their prophecy never deviated once However given that the past, present and future all exist at once plus fu xuan's method of divining fate One could say that the knowledge of this prophecy resulted in an observer effect one which resulted in what we saw in fontaine The narwhal did in fact come to teyvat however childe met and battled it due to the chaotic nature of fate Fate was never broken just followed through and partially reweaved as a result of the observer effect Thus in the end this madlad Vedrfolnir foresaw the basis of fate but not the events resulting in said foreseen fate - Hope that helps to explain that tryna foresee everything is quite literally impossible all you can realy do is foresee a basic rundown of what will happen while ignoring the smaller details that could happen in between its like reading a book instead of tryna study every miniscule detail on the page , u look at the obvious stuff and ignore the less obvious

[@acelim6259]

Fu Xuan ---> Imcomprehensible Tier

[@AlexisNess-mn4zw]

@@Junirules360 Well he foresaw everyone dissolving into waters which is not a minor detail

[@Junirules360]

@@AlexisNess-mn4zw oh yeah forgor that part welp means that most of the prophecy was true minus that part unless it simple refers to the dissolving of the people of poisson

[@haikalabbas9539]

This whole theory video was just an excuse to show off the C3 Nahida wasn't it? >.>

[@DragonMJE]

Nope, I was trying to "demonstrate" that the Narukami Shrine Maidens are scammers compared to Barbeloth and Citlali but I suppose they aren't after all.

[@QuinquetPourpre]

​@@DragonMJE mate got scammed out of his scam

[@lexical450]

5:43 Please do, the 40 minutes to 1 hour videos are the best. Also, i really enjoy these mini geology lectures that you do, they add an extra layer of entertainment value and uniqueness to your videos.

[@naranikarsa1608]

Essentially our dear doctor Zandyk tried to do something similar: using multiple clones at different points in time to observe the chaotic system of Teyvat possibly to find patterns and predict the future. The doctor's working model was quite impressive, even Nahida acknowledged the insanity of it all... Puny human might actually find a way to make his little experiment in blasphemy a success 😂

[@rolo1178]

I wonder if Columbina is the Harbingers' "fortune teller" and "guide" given her angelic motifs. I also wonder if she's half angel half human, allowing her to maintain her form despite the curse laid upon the angels (we already know from books anyway that Nabu wasn't the only Angel who kept her form). Or she's just a proper Angel who hides her identity (horns). Also the part you mentioned about the Lord of the Night sleeping, and Columbina is always seen with her eyes closed. Yes I know Pantalone does too but she's closer to angels symbolically than him. Man I really hope we see her in Natlan or early Snezhnaya.

[@DragonMJE]

She will definitely be there in Snezhnaya. All of the Harbingers will.

[@iosis9324]

In her first appearance, she literally asks Dottore where his omega segment is, which is a strange question for fortune teller and guide that should already know everything.

[@beashemmad.sayson545]

Nabu also had horns

[@kotarouinugami1745]

@@iosis9324 Either she knows where the omega segment is, and is like "what the hell are you doing?!", or she asks, because the segment has wandered off the territory her predictions work in.

[@Jemstoness]

Cryo defensive unit with the power to read fate. *Looks at Layla*

[@Kagura19x]

Omg I was not prepared with you talking about igenous and metamorphic geochemistry. As a geologist who did extensive research in that field, Im amazed on the level of detail you put in your discussion. Im already a fan of yours for a while and this made me respect you even more.

[@eiko1490]

I wish this was longer. It’s so interesting and feels like we’re just getting started.

[@Chippyz7]

0:40 that's absolutely wrong, gentleman. The more you think, the more quality content we get. A glazing comment but I really do love the vids

[@swagstache]

I really appreciate you attempting to pronounce the names right, from any culture. I see too many lore theorists just skip over names they find too difficult to say, and often times their name holds great significance. Your research really shows!

[@annazhang1434]

34:45 isnt this basically the Wedjat Eye from Nahida birthday event? So king Deshret made mini Matrix of Presience for Rukkhadevata... wow

[@DragonMJE]

Good observation. I wonder if Rukkhadevata's Akasha System was partially inspired by this concept since Amun was involved in this stuff.

[@annazhang1434]

@@DragonMJE so whats youre trying to say its all come down to Amun...

[@xingqiu1809]

@@annazhang1434it always comes down to the great scarlet king. All hail King Deshret, all hail Al-Ahmar!

[@KuLifefinn]

he is easily the most badass character in genshin lore history guy could wield 7 elements and was offered to be the dendro archon and REFUSED because he didnt want to be the puppet of the heavenly principles he also knew of their bullshit fake sky ​@annazhang1434

[@idontspeakjapanese6289]

Got confused there for a second, isn't the Jade Abacus or the Matrix of Presience in general are a creation of Nous the Erudtion? I mean out of the Aeons, only two are capable of foreseeing the future, Which is Nous and Terminus the Finality, but the Aeons have different ways in calculating the future... NGL I would pay for a mega mind battle between Rukkadevatta and Nahida vs Nous

[@Bigslam1993]

I am a Dwarf and I'm digging a hole. Diggy Diggy Hole. Diggy Diggy Hole. Searching for Lore.

[@weddingjay04]

I would say that Citlali is more like an Oracle than to be a Prophetess. We witness Citlali a couple of times saying or murmuring phrase out of her normal state.

[@koma_place]

MNFN: *goes through a geological/chemical lecture about formation of jades and obsidian* MNFN a second later: and that's the part we don't care about guys✌ I swear I feel like I'm on some crazy lecture and I'm loving it x)

[@seph4707]

The Sabzeruz festival directly alludes to this. Glad I finished it yesterday. So good!

[@beannnn1048]

YOU GENUINELY COOOK DUDE, KEEP UP THE GOOD HECKING WORK!

[@aezula3546]

oh wow, the event of nahida's birthday expanded on the jade's ability to tell the future. (candice's recent jewelry, not sure if it's jade but it sure looks like it)

[@muhammadsayyid6162]

Also it stores memories of the past

[@Infel-IX]

Its something Deshret made and only those of his line appear to be able to utilise it for memories. Didn't a past event or story have a black stone that Paimon touched and it scared her. Btw we've had no focus or details into how much Paimon remembers about herself or how much she is even holding back.

[@silverstuff1146]

@@Infel-IX from the chasm event quest with xiao, itto, kuki, yanfei and yelan?

[@Infel-IX]

@@silverstuff1146 I feel like it was in Meropide, it was recent by comparison. I wish I could remember the name, it might even be a world quest or something.

[@iosis9324]

​​​​@@Infel-IXThis is from the Wriothesley story quest, that stone was a nightmare stone which shows the most terrible personal fear to the person who comes into contact with it, Paimon's reaction is a normal reaction when you saw your worst fear.

[@Indian_gae_boii]

3 nahidas in one ten pull put a jumpscare warning bro 💀💀

[@rafing2163]

bro knows his stuff this is all i have to say

[@dear_totheheart]

Always a pleasure, always insightful far more than I am even expecting, and you inspire so many more thoughtful considerations! Thank you so much for all your efforts and trails of thought and connection with us!

[@ironwoodkid9577]

21:55 - 22:00 you know, her being a diviner and being cryo, i wouldn't be surprised if she was a 5* version of Layla - a cryo shielder, with maybe better off field cryo application. Layla studies astrology, and stars in genshin are associated with divination

[@barbarajames9376]

yippiee!!!! more geology with my genshin lore!!!

[@amouramarie]

"Obsidian Star.... did I just hear you say _Black Sun Dynasty?!?_

[@MrEnKaye]

"but here's the Catch" caught me so off guard 😂

[@AstraLuna-o9i]

In my head King Desheret was Otto Apocolypse of Genshin, also yay!! A long asss lore video. Love these the best

[@dizzeedandan4744]

Wow this vid is nxt level. The anount of reaserch u must have put into this is more than commebdable, krrp up the grwat work bro

[@Keiki-kun]

oh boy, another video of yours that I'm going to have to watch twice to absorb everything

[@storybread4559]

Just drank a glass of lemon juice, good video

[@BloodyLunacy]

I swear, from all the Genshin lore people I follow, this is the only channel that says "Citlali" correctly. I know most stick to how it's said in the game, but me being Mexican and having family members with that name, it always annoys me slightly.

[@irihox]

I loved the Beako cameo! You should definitely do Re:Zero theory videos - my brain TREMBLES just from the anticipation of such possibility. Anyway, great video as usual!

[@DragonMJE]

I would have to catch up to Light Novels (last I stopped was the end of Arc 6). I chose the Anime only path because White Fox are good at adapting the story for the most part.

[@CarlosAnglada]

Tying all of the seelies/AIs together across the Hoyoverse is elite work.

[@十代-p7g]

Your theory is amazing and convincing me！

[@RedBloodyGirl]

At this point I am convinced that Teyvat is just a simulation of how the Honkai behaves and how to beat it, and the "dreamer" is Kiana.

[@Pre4xes_]

Nah

[@adamek8316]

Thanks for more geography lessons

[@thrownaway6020]

21:56 About that... I've heard the leak of Citlali's going to be a Cryo shielder.

[@insomniafox]

"Let's see if this fortune is true" instantly plays Burnice ad 😂

[@darylz1497]

Congrats on C3 Nahida!!! Last patch i just got my Kazuha C2 with the same pattern lmao

[@sylvarogre5469]

Had to break time free to watch, but as always, well worth it.

[@Ashleycolorful]

40 Minutes of explaining genshin impact lore all-the-while teaching us about things we should normally learn in SCHOOL. heck, COLLEGE. I'm not complaining tho.

[@steeljaw19]

@36:04 made me laugh 😂 Great video as always!

[@s.7033]

A few days or weeks ago (I can’t remember) I was just playing with my imagination (if one day they make a connection/crossover with ToT) if a “Themis” existed in Teyvat would likely be a seelie and her master should be the Shade of Life or have a relation with the moon sisters and also have died because in Greek mythology she’s an oracle and in the gacha animation have doves flying and then drop a tear After seeing this I think it would make so much sense specially since the cards in chinese are called thoughts and also for another details of the mc involving dreams and alternatives storylines

[@hydroho]

i haven't even finished watching video but i gotta get the thought out there. the veins on the sakura tree look like the veins on dain's khaenriah curse.

[@Sacration]

"Cryo, defensive" 😂😂😂 you predicted fate

[@lipsticktazor9015]

everytime he says 'id prefer to not make this video an hour long' an angel dies

[@raiarthur7873]

Now I want citlali to become a 5star layla hahahaha but with higher anti interruption. I love fu xuan in hsr and I'm planning to get citlali

[@Azzywrld224]

19:37 perfect colors for Aria, Sonnet and Canon.

[@ziebus904]

BRO SOLD HIS SOUL TO DAWEI FOR CN CITIZENSHIP 1:02

[@ShineEdgateAshton14]

Persona x collaboration confirm

[@Slayloy69420]

WHATTT 3 NAHIDASSSS

[@ryukreya45]

The little mini theory about paimon being an AI companion like fairy... huh it might be just as real as the All Kathrins Are Robots theory turned out to be.

[@Tzahr]

C2 NAHIDA IS CRAZY CONGRATS

[@DrakeWurrum]

All I can say in response to all of this is... I'm beginning to believe more and more that the Heavenly Principles is actually some advanced AI and that their shades and angels must've been some sort of AI responsible for specific sub-processes.

[@Pre4xes_]

I think they are

[@thebiglich]

Heisenberg: say my name for now

[@EchoNoir-]

Underrated comment

[@hakugei-_-5800]

Surely he didn't see Citlali leaks right?

[@shinobimanexe]

Yo I was just theory crafting about a connection involving Genshin and HSR involving the Xianjou Jade. I think I am going to keep writing. 😊

[@KFCG427]

Wake up babes Bro has uploaded

[@justarandomguy1541]

exactly what alheithem said in the recent event with a bit of yapping

[@MoonQiFumbo]

I learned today that My Name For Now is a geologist major or something rock man expert

[@Ittoswetboosay]

34:30 im actually writing an exam on this exact topic among other things related to quantum physics next week. what a coincidence to see it in a video lmao

[@MojtaAS]

bro that ZZZ theme at the end of chapter 4 hits deep

[@thelastyaksha]

I'm not a fan of long videos. But seeing 40:00 makes me feel good somehow.

[@Adrianirl]

I am a big fan of long vids

[@Angelofdeth2947]

COLUMBINA watching 👁️👄👁️👹amazing videos 💗🕊️

[@smcmaison7845]

Rather than the ley line as the reflection of the sky, since teyvat's sky is fake, it doesn't make sense how the sky dictates the leylines. And since the sky is just a firmament, then the reverse is in order. Teyvat's sky is a reflection of the leyline. So if an astrologist maps the night sky and invert it, an astrologist can see the map of the ley lines which answers the similarity of how the astrologists divine fate and how the master's of the night wind does the same.

[@beyonceverdadeiraoficial3997]

Phobos was an Artificial Intelligence born through the counciousness of an angel to defy fate? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@scottamusprime2510]

17:15 "A land of death and MAM-MAR-IES!!!" 😃

[@VeraldoAncodini]

I wouldn't mind if these were even 10 hours long.

[@sirwillll]

Godsend for a night of working

[@Xolents]

Finally another cooking

[@whystaroth]

All I can think of now is WHAT does this say about Elio, cause thinking about it now I never realized before how similar he is to Vedrfolnir, but we have (well, at least I do) completely opposite preconceptions of the two. On one side, the Stellaron Hunters and the destiny's slave, on the other, the Abyss Order and the visionary. I'll remember not to trust Elio too much from now on, ngl.

[@SilverLawrenceGamingg]

Great genshin lore video

[@noble69420]

Transcending the value of gold got me theorizing like crazy about what it could possibly mean, and I stared at that dialogue in the menu for way too long, but it was too cryptic for me to reach some meaningful conclusion lol.

[@lulufortytwo3884]

probably the four stages of alchemy since red is after gold

[@Haxelmoon]

I came for genshin lore ended up with rock stuff that i can brag about later in class 😂

[@amarait2]

once you got into star rail territory, you lost me, i dont know anything about it, but i got confused entirely from listening this.

[@kgptzac]

If wayobs contain all the memories of past tribespeople, then they aren't far from being described as a collective consciousness. It's valid to suspect seelies being a competent of them, but I wouldn't dismiss the aspect of a collective consciousness, seeing how Phobos/Sybilla can be seen as a collective unconsciousness of the entire Remurian people.

[@tomasgrergor6902]

I thot your gonna say that citlanie is angel who got reborn

[@Iris0331]

So the Wayob use many consciousnesses to observe past events and divine the most likely Fate, in other words they have placed eyes within the dimension of Time, like a certain 2nd Harbinger

[@Iris0331]

Those segments were based on Scaramouche, who in turn, was based on the puppet making techinques of Khaen'riah

[@izanagiuzumaki7325]

1:48 behind every meme, there is some truth

[@sutaichiban]

new video lets goo

[@ankitjadhav6775]

Really excited for what purpose capitano went to meet the selee agin

[@KyzenEX]

23:23 NO MENTION ON HOW THEIR CONSTELLATIONS ALIGN WITH THEIR REGION'S WAYPOINTS? 😡😡😡 30:38 Yo! Props for improving your pronunciation of this word! :D 37:02 Those who dream of dreaming, maybe..?

[@velaroswardrivm9109]

will you ever talk about wuthering waves?

[@PixelMochi]

Side note: Kun Jun spoke, and it sounded like Capitano's English voice. Weirded me out for a second lol (I'd never heard Kun Jun's English voice, as I play in my native language) But I searched, and they're not the same dude.

[@mixedmaniac7957]

I don't know if there is any significance to this but I vaguely remember Boreas/Andrius having his powers passed down to him by a Seelie princess or something? Thought I'd mention it since it didn't come up in the examples for past seelie appearances. Also, wasn't Malikata the goddess of flowers? Dual title?

[@Nationalist166]

Almost all god likes beings in the game have many titles, same for Nabu

[@Nationalist166]

Also, Andrius was not confirmed, but a Seelie giving him thoses powers is likely because there no other canditates and there a book that actually make this theory possible, now the Seelie was not confirmed being anythings other than just a Seelie

[@ShineEdgateAshton14]

Infinitely

[@nettedteeth]

Yippee!

[@Ren_rz]

"Guide see the way" ❌ "Huides see Da Wei" ✅ On another note, how did Citlali see tge traveler's padt? That stuff 's not in the ley lines amd definitely nit in the night kingdom. Thr only way that we know off current that was sble to look into his fate is through thr stars sith the only one whos done it being Mona.... There is one more but that one's questionable at best

[@koma_place]

Does this mean that Zhongli can FORGE obsidian as well?? And, well, then possibly Azhdaha then was pulled out of the night kingdom??

[@definiteIynotkenji]

dear god now I know what the en players were complaining about, add youtube compression and citlali justs detroys your ears. Glad I play in jp :)

[@Roihclem871]

Buttlicker29 here: how dare you

[@zerovermilion8715]

22:00 you just predicted it, didn't you?

[@محمودمنفرد-م1ن]

LLLLLLOOOOOOORRRRREEEEE

[@ShineEdgateAshton14]

No make it longer and don't skip details

[@Akita44]

21:57 does he know…?

[@Owen_7271]

10:08 🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦🟨

[@bigchubb5268]

I want to know dawei

[@junera4016]

So, this means that Nahida can be also a seele? 🤔

[@DragonMJE]

I thought about this and ultimately I don't think so. Buer is a Tree Fairy, which is close to an Angel (Seelie/Fairy). Still, she is likely a creature adjacent to Angels rather than an actual Angel. Good question tho, I should have included this in the video. I now wonder if Amun has 2 Fairies on his side on purpose.

[@junera4016]

@DragonMJE When I read your comment, I remembered my old observation: Buer and Focalors are the only ones of the 6 Archons (which are currently shown in the game) who have white hair. Neuvillette has the same hair color. This kind of explains that the three of them are parts of the primordial elements (or whatever this is). I also wanted to include Nabu Malikata, but I remembered that she has pink hair, so no. BUT she has horns (perhaps), which should refer to some connection with Dragons (or it's already some kind of addiction, tying Dragons to everything possible 🫠)

[@DragonMJE]

@@junera4016 We don't know Nabu Malikata's hair colour. The pink-haired lady is a Priestess who worshiped Nabu Malikata.

[@junera4016]

@@DragonMJE Oops, my bad 🫣

[@ArctiVax]

buttlicker29 where art thou?

[@ssynestia]

Wtf is wrong with the Ss at the beginning