How Speedrunners Broke Wii Sports Biggest Barrier

[@LunaticJ]

If you enjoyed this video, check out this Mario Kart Wii speedrunning video I just made! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qp3Gn3iYjMpqr6csi=AqBAATZBF9ZMKp8a [SPOILERS] Current Wii Sports World Record: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYPXXnqNr718oJIsi=iw2ful5oXE0m8v8l Check out these awesome Wii Sports speedrunners! EmoadNomad: www.youtube.com/@emoadnomad MrJimmySteel25: www.youtube.com/@MrJimmysteel25 Mr_Shy_Guy: www.youtube.com/@Mr.ShyGuyYT Plyd: www.youtube.com/@Plyd823 RuinerRyan: www.youtube.com/@ruinerryan RyMacG4: www.youtube.com/@rymacg4 ShockwaveTLS: www.youtube.com/@ShockwaveTLS

[@quintonconoly]

Ok

[@MajorUrsa]

for the noble act of listing all the background tracks you use in your vid im giving you a like and sub. so many ppl dont credit the music they use. tysm for doing that.

[@fahadmalik8862]

Crazy cool vid! +

[@MrJimmysteel25]

Great overview on the sub 7 grind. I've been trying to get WR back on and off since 2017 after only having it for 3 days. I've come this far in staying a top player for so long and I don't think I'm gonna stop grinding once I get sub 7. I gotta stay persistent and finish what I set out to do all those years ago.

[@McLovinMods]

Don't give up! You are next!

[@at4m1cplayz66]

Good luck brother

[@Dziaji]

What is your time?

[@joelcont]

You can do it

[@jamineamina5429]

​@@Dziajileader board says 7:14

[@ShockwaveTLS]

This is an absolutely incredible video. I couldn't put it better myself if I tried, the level of detail and the alternative perspective to previous WR progression videos of explaining WHY it was so hard to beat and what caused me to lose motivation for the category is super refreshing. The explaining of moonball and volleybowl, and bringing up my 7:02 which was pretty unknown outside the community warms my heart in a way to know there's a video that just gets everything right. Maybe I will get sub 7 one day. Not WR, but just as a personal achievement, as there's no longer urgency to be the first sub 7, yet it will be just as sweet ❤

[@Zyiers]

Man you’re awesome

[@joshcantrell8397]

The man, the myth, the legend!

[@ricercr44]

I don’t quite understand why people do the speed running stuff, but the community seems like one of the best out there, so maybe I do understand it…. Great video!

[@ruinerryan]

I felt so close to sub 7 but yet so far. The rng needed in baseball is just hell. I still feel like I can punch another good time in but I need to get myself together in bowling. A lot of factors like Errors, Fouls, No homeruns, Strikes, Wind and Hole locations can really destroy your run. But I strive again to do good things watching this. This video really motivates me to run it again so I might give it a go. Thanks LunaticJ 🔥

[@ruinerryan]

Also wanted to say I watch your content all the time and really didn’t expect to see myself in this video 😂 Great videos overall man keep the good content coming!

[@at4m1cplayz66]

Wishing you luck bro

[@ruinerryan]

@@at4m1cplayz66thanks playa🔥❤️

[@ansem37]

Do it man! You can push it even lower

[@ruinerryan]

@@ansem37 I believe

[@Mr.ShyGuyYT]

I was so shocked when this video came out!!! I still love this literal dream ending to the sub 7. I know i never got it, but to be honest, 1.2 never really was the way to go. I still absolutely loved this whole video, and love your videos man! thanks so much to bringing light to the most goated run ever, 6:53!

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@RyMacG4]

Awesome video man! Anime Baby is love, Anime Baby is life.

[@Arcski187um]

She anime on my baby till I 6:53.867

[@puppygirltrish]

huge congrats ry :)

[@TuxedoSlim]

o7

[@jesiah391]

Huh

[@BurningEagl]

Copywrite incringement

[@ThungStudios]

I don't really care about speedruns and haven't played Wii sports in like a decade, so I have no idea why KZbin recommended this to me. With that being said, I still watched the whole thing

[@gabbyholloman177]

Captivating and entertaining despite me not even knowing this was a thing until I saw the title I found myself very invested

[@tomebers8683]

Same here tbh, it was actually really good surprisingly

[@kefkapalazzo1]

You may like summoning salt if that’s the case (gold standard for long form speedrun content for years if you ask me) but a lot of KZbinrs are just good at telling stories so the content is just like a backdrop

[@justabearbrowsingyoutube4968]

@@kefkapalazzo1I think a person has to have some interest in the content itself to enjoy a documentary. Be it for its complexity and history of a topic, or just because it’s something they never seen before. No matter how good a documentary is, people will lose interest if it’s a subject that doesn’t apply to their interest.

[@danescott4347]

I think I could just be pulled in by any documentary.​@@justabearbrowsingyoutube4968

[@emoadnomad]

Great coverage and well organized video. Love to see what is to come!

[@palpiblade1586]

Ok but that strike at 19:33 is a thing of beauty.

[@Determi9r]

“Thanks for watching, now here’s a dog” is the absolute best possible way to end this video

[@Crixus654]

Best way to end any video!! 😂

[@Crixus654]

Best way to end any video!! 😂

[@Hankathan]

Truly goated outro

[@ShneeMan300]

Honestly the pause you made after the 9 count and the end of the video brought me more tension than it should. XD really well crafted video. Made me feel things about a speedrun I didn't know anything about in less than 20 minutes.

[@xhappybunnyx]

My favorite part about these stories is how they showcase the "on the shoulders of giants" saying. So cool to see generations of runners exhaust themselves pushing the limit while newer generations get to pick up their hard work and invest their new energy into pushing it even further. A beautiful example of what makes humanity so powerful

[@MarioMastar]

35+ years later, Ocarina of Time is still being played as if it's never been played before, with new discoveries and ways to play it pushing the game to a crazy limit and finding ways to keep it entertaining to this day. Other Zelda games could also be pushed this far, but there's a massive "walk before you run" element that makes new glitch hunters and speed runners so eager to break the game and become the next "ZFG" that they end up looking more arrogant and turning people off of the game (like when the Echoes of Wisdom Speed run was made within 3 days of coming out by.... finding a wrong warp that involves memory manipulation and the top runner even said "I don't feel like spending hours playing this game unless there's a game breaking glitch to be found". Talk about shooting the dog before entering the show unless it's a Maltese.... and similarly Tears of the Kingdom is marred to death by "Item Duplication glitches" which basically allows runners to forego actually PLAYING the game as they just spend hours duplicating everything they need, so no routing, no strategy, no creativity, just literally "learn game breaking glitch, then claim spot in leaderboard". Same for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe where it's the same thing "Best kart combination, sand bagging = play to win" But the older games generally don't come with much prestiege as the new hotness, so the only people still playing them tend to be people who are genuine big fans and that makes the community slowly grow back to glory as it's less about some hotshot getting their name on a leaderboard and more about pushing the game to the limits, then breaking those limits to encourage others to find new ways to play.

[@Alaskaxp2]

Fantastic video. I loved the deeper insight into the run's strategies as well as the inclusion of sub-7 contender's failed runs 💯 SPOILER congrats RyMac, no one will ever understand how you managed it

[@etho2185]

I used to watch your wii sports streams all the time Alaskaxp2 I’m glad this vid popped up

[@ThaRixer]

Congraturlations to anime baby

[@gelatine_ac]

Man, I keep forgetting I subscribed to this channel, or that this channel even exists. But I'm always pleasantly surprised to see your videos in my feed!

[@LimeJ0SH]

dont watch any speed running, nor have i played wii sports in like 10 years... but i just enjoyed a 20 minute video on both lol. Crazy to think how good speed runners are at breaking and solving games. Good stuff man

[@MarioMastar]

Generally if you're going to find anything interesting about a video game you used to play, it'll come from the speedrunners. Giving people a goal like time really encourages them to look for things and apply it to that goal, serving as motivation you wouldn't find casually. Me personally, I see something like "Wii Sports speed run" and my tingles are tingling cause Wii sports by design is a very casual game AND requires dexterity due to controlling the Wii remote, not just timing button presses, so HOW do you speed run these games? XD I just wanted to know what the "barrier" was and what the strategies generally are.

[@Plyd823]

love to see more coverage of this game. Great work on the video!

[@calebjohnson9740]

5:10 somebody get this man a barber

[@JBLilPaper]

Great video! Nice to see Wii Sports speedrunning still getting love

[@graydonsmith5722]

I love that I accidentally discovered the speed running strategy mentioned at 5:08 as a kid. I always beat my family at wii bowling and I loved it

[@TechX1320]

I recently watched the video of somebody using AI to play Wii sports baseball, and they figured out that the splitter was the best ball to throw. Yes you'll get an error fastball right down the middle from time to time, but overall it's the best pitch to throw. I wonder if that's something that could help speedrunners

[@TrueRX_]

Was it this video? I saw it recently and heard the same thing kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4WzonyrerJgq8ksi=aUPcjSEvTLpGq4RM

[@TechX1320]

Also I think the way I bowl is faster than the methods used in the video. On original Wii sports, you can lock the ball at Max height of the player's arm raised and it will always go straight. I've been using that method for years and years to cheat strikes. I always move to the right very similar to how you explain, but what I do is I swing the wiimote twice very fast. If you don't let go of b on the first upswing and just let the players arm lock, and then swing a second time and curve your wrist, you'll get the same curve and the ball will go perfectly straight every single time and hit the exact same spot

[@Mr.ShyGuyYT]

if you swing twice, wont that make it slower?

[@mutinyrider666]

Lol bro same swing and leave my arm up and let her fly. Dead straight

[@evox6878]

New Year’s Eve: Getting drunk with friends ❌❌ Eat Wii sports ✅✅

[@joseywales6168]

"Now here's a dog" and then TWO dogs appear, greatest ending ever

[@t0mn00k6]

Love this video! As a runner, I remember the progression of AS and I love the community. Even though my PB is sub 9, I’m still pushing for sub 8.

[@devilish_ashe]

great video, was a really fun deep dive into how insane Wii sports speed runs are

[@TreyMo69]

I didn't even know this was a thing, but I must say this was a fantastic documentary of the WR and it did not spoil the ending...great job, sub earned

[@anthonygotttheonly]

Bowling as a sport has zero randomness, the few things that might look random to a casual bowler on an actual lane is factored out in Wii Bowling. If you can swing your hand the exact same way every time, the ball will do the same thing every time. I have no idea what "very little randomness" means for bowling.

[@MarioMastar]

Physical control. If your arm starts to jitter while you're throwing the ball, that's "randomness". XD THough that sounds like it could apply to ANY game, it's notable in Wii sports because your motion is the input and a large range of it too. Plus he literally says at the end of hte segment "For some reason that 8th pin just randomly goes down, or it doesn't" implying that unless you rig the remote to a machine, the variance in your movement is just enough to cause that one pin to sometimes not fall. "Very little randomness" shouldn't be a contentious statement....

[@anthonygotttheonly]

@MarioMastar it sounds like you are describing human error

[@iitzfizz]

The patience & dedication of these guys is unreal

[@christocream]

If I was speedrunning this I would start with baseball right away instead of saving it for last or after tennis

[@t0mn00k6]

Well, that’s against the rules. You have to start with Tennis and go down the list.

[@christocream]

OH SHOOT

[@audiosurfarchive]

​@@t0mn00k6WHACK

[@AlexWilliams-zi3xx]

People can talk all the shit they want on gamers but these dudes are borderline geniuses. The tricks and hints they find amaze me all the time. Watching speed runs are always so fun. Mario speed runs always get me going!!! 🎉

[@lucagacy]

Fire vid! Reminds me of older karl jobst vids in the best way! Its hella concise but also goes into the relevant details

[@Retired_iguana97]

Idk if anymore knows this. But the bowling ball one, you can get a strike every time just by lining the shot up like he does, and shake the remote while holding be until the mii is just standing there with the ball over there head, you can sit here as long as you like, and whenever you’re ready, just swing any way you like and let go of B. Strike every single time.

[@itsxora3207]

Thats a secret shhh

[@Retired_iguana97]

@ figured that out when I was 10 years old and would bet my brothers and sisters I could beat em

[@sampsqwantch4612]

oh i just eat this kind of stuff up 😂 i love watching speedrunning stuff even if ill never speedrun anything except life 😂😂

[@Hydro1211]

I love seeing the top contenders for this speed run all in the comments, congrats to you all… great effort.

[@Tichi20]

So glad I stayed until the end of the video 😍

[@HarryTaussig0]

i see you on the super mario strikers "the classroom" background music on wii bowling. i love that song

[@PratosKS]

When watching a video about a speedrun is 3x longer than just watching the speedrun.

[@EZAblinG]

Big up the beefboss cameo in baseball 😂

[@icyrhodes2738]

Baseball’s luck of the draw is hilarious because actually playing baseball feels like this. It’s a game of averages so you are at the mercy of the game most of the time. It’s a game where you can everything right and still lose.

[@jinkusuSPL]

MRJIMMYSTEEL MAKES AN APPEARANCE WITHIN 22 SECONDS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@pinktooth5473]

2:22 " HHWHAT?..."

[@SevenEssence7]

Qwhat

[@MattMajcan]

when you're on your deathbed will you feel glad about all the time spent speedrunning, or no..

[@cougar2013]

Take a shot when our boy says “by FAR”

[@SushiElemental]

I bet some retirement home basement king can crush the time if they tried.

[@Ascension721]

I heard a rumor once that a guy who held an unmatched Wii Sports Resort 18 hole record for over a decade was a guy in his late 60s. Your comment may have been a joke but its not impssible

[@MarioMastar]

@@Ascension721 Yeah, given Wii sports is really popular among adults and elderly people, I wouldn't be surprised if an older retired person who plays Wii sports all day genuinely got some world records cause they have all the time in the world to go for them and it's something they can accomplish.

[@ahshashkomegwaninini7462]

Watched 1 cody Miller video and now apparently I'm apart of the speed run community lol

[@fosui7424]

6:10 it's not really random, it's about hitting the pocket so the pins bounce properly. Throwing without much hook and quickly makes this much easier to leave up

[@tobymax10]

Me and my friends play the golf all the time on his Wii and we even found a way to make it into a drinking game

[@Armi1P]

"Now here's a dog" lol what

[@GamesintoMovies]

Near perfect run. Love your vids

[@Palkreuploads]

While the music itself could use some tweaks, I love the effort you put into the visualizer

[@Joshua_From_Wii_Sports]

outta every way to be in a video, it was bc i was in the chat of someones stream 😭

[@Iris_and_or_George]

Hahaha tthe segment names! Tennis, PAIN, bowling hahaha

[@dylanmorris5253]

Thank you 4 am KZbin recommended feed

[@RMNDolphy]

love the dog part

[@j.k.59]

Forbidden Memories music is fitting considering that speedrun is also a bastard

[@kirigherkins]

Ah yes I definitely know what these baseball terms mean, I... I love sports! I'm a pro!

[@realname2566]

You're my before bed channel don't worry I'll be watching. For now here's a comment and a thumbs up

[@ryanhinson7329]

Idk if this will get to a speedrunner of this category but for baseball throwing a right splitter every single time is the most consistent way to get three outs since it’s almost impossible to hit and the only issue would be the ai not swinging but that isn’t much of an issue at a low elo

[@Mr.ShyGuyYT]

This actually sounds like a decent strategy! Basically what some other runners do is similar. Outside fastballs at the lowest speed. I will definitely try this to see how well it works!

[@BearEnjoyer]

you want them to hit the ball so you have 3 pitches instead of 9

[@TheDensemilk]

Great videos man, thanks

[@ChaosKoopasPlays]

13 views from 1 mil, you deserve another under your belt!

[@EarthPoweredHippie]

Crazy to think youtube and the Nintendo wii both came out during my HS years

[@MattFromWiiSportsOfficial]

epic video!! 😎

[@dakotah3875]

I remember as a kid trying to beat the sword fighting one as well as the boating one

[@Olm-]

“moonball” is something everyone did when the game first came out lol. it was THE known way to always get a strike. i think everyone just realized on their own it always got a strike or their friends showed them. like i can’t understate how well known this was even right when it came out

[@GenericWBrand]

We get it, you knew before everyone else did lmao

[@saraussai9589]

then there’s poofesure ☠️

[@lucadeblasio2462]

The video I didn’t know I wanted

[@NovaSolarsis835]

Amazing video! Btw, whats the song at 15:58? I've been trying to find that song for a while and cant lol

[@jacktenders]

it says it in the corner, starfall village

[@Zel-Veraan]

Knowing speedrunners, they'll be doing the expert holes by 2025. Mayber earlier.

[@SirTylerGolf]

Nope, never, the hole in one featured on hole 7 at the end of the video requires 1/48 odds to even get a chance, then you need to press A frame perfectly to stop aiming in the right spot, then you need to get a ridiculously precise power on the shot. I have tens of thousands of attempts in expert and have only ever gotten 2 hole in ones. There is a much much easier hole in one strat on the first hole of intermediate (we're talking going from ~1/10000 to ~1/20) that saves more time than doing expert

[@DanDCool]

do they have to play in order?.its more efficient to start with baseball and keep the best run and then do the rest normally

[@sportsjefe]

yes, the list must be in order.

[@jacobbabcock8943]

I'm loving that half the comments here are all people mentioned in the video

[@Mr.ShyGuyYT]

we got a touch excited lol

[@daltonhausman5127]

Hey everyone, so I’m not a speedrunner but I love learning about it, and I noticed that during all of the baseball pitching sections of these runs, the pitches were quite slow. I used to play a lot of Wii baseball and learned that if you quickly flick your wrist while holding the remote, you can throw pitches upwards of 90mph, which should theoretically be harder for the computers to hit, no? I have no idea if this has already been tried or anything, just wanted to put it out there in case it could help shave some more time on baseball (:

[@Mr.ShyGuyYT]

we want outs in 1 pitch, fast throws would mean they wont hit it and 3 pitch minimum per out

[@ZaItan1]

Yaah wii sports! I used to play so much Wii sports resort archery. Love the dog pics at the end, except they got slammed with KZbin banners

[@Under-Kaoz]

So many Ryans so great at games. 💪

[@FireWaia]

Speedrunning anything on wii just feels like special ed speedrunning.

[@daveyjones7391]

Amazing! Big congrats!

[@ekg8609]

Oh my GOD. I thought the record was beaten, not disintegrated

[@6t6rnxl]

Only thing on my mind is when is Poofesure gonna get all his plat medals

[@gamingwithahandicapreviews]

Lunatic do a video on the original Tak and the Power of Juju on GameCube that game has an insane speedrun!!

[@GreaterJan]

2:56 beef boss appearance

[@Synthali]

Is there a rule against starting with baseball?

[@MarioMastar]

I don't think so, I think because Tennis is so quick and free and it'd take a second to menu down to baseball, then menu back up to tennis, then menu down twice to bowling, you'd probably lose more time doing that then it's worth saving the roughly a minute spent on Tennis to try for baseball. I thought the same thing but if a single pitch can cost the run, the menuing could also.

[@SirTylerGolf]

Yes, but even if there wasn't, runners wouldn't really change the order much

[@bigwolfowosrs]

Great video! Also Yugioh Forbidden Memories music in the background rules!!

[@askenneddy]

Amazing video!

[@cleava959]

Another Wii game banger video!!

[@bowserjr476]

One piece shirt spotted, instant subscription 🙏

[@iGNighters]

I saw the community post about the dog and clicked immediately where the dog man Edit: I FOUND THE DOG!

[@LunaticJ]

Watch until the end :)

[@iGNighters]

⁠WAIT THERES TWO DOGS??? This literally can’t get better best wr video EVER!

[@ivanmoraess]

Boa, Felipe Melo

[@tobygoodman9134]

This video was awesome!

[@lance7380]

Conjuring pepper

[@jeunonn]

did I just see my own Mii??

[@Wato-1876]

that is insane....

[@godsson2974]

Why am I watching this at 5am rn :/

[@dowblab]

The Wii, Wii Sports, and Wii Sports Resort are the absolute peak of gaming. I remember seeing it for the first time after release in the NY Nintendo store. It was so frickin cool and different. I honestly still play ping pong in Resorts. If they release an updated Wii, I would absolutely buy in a heartbeat.

[@YouTubestopsharingmyrealname]

What's up with that glitch at the end? Counts to 9, then black screen and audio skip...

[@woodmon35]

How is physically tampering with your controller a "glitch" and not cheating? What's the difference between that and what the DK guy did?

[@kola197]

The community.

[@SirTylerGolf]

I'm not sure what the "DK" situation is, but since this is pretty much universally replicable, there's really no reason to disallow it

[@krazysamurai]

they aren’t pretending they didn’t modify the controller

[@SirTylerGolf]

@@krazysamurai we don't, I can do this on any original Wii remote

[@woodmon35]

@@krazysamurai But the outcome is the same. This would suggest the problem with cheating or manipulation isn't that it provides an advantage over other competitors, but that no one knows it's occuring. That's partially true, but I would argue acknowledging you manipulated a controller isn't the same as not manipulating the controller at all, which is what you are suggesting. The Donkey Kong guy did literally the exact same thing, he just didn't acknowledge it. Would his record suddenly count again if he acknowledged he manipulated the controller? No, because the problem is he manipulated the controller to give him an advantage, not that he didn't tell anyone about it. I mean, obviously there's a problem with doing it and lying about it, but two separate issues in this instance.

[@imthemistermaster]

Bro I figured out the moonball strat at like 9 years old, although I only used one hand

[@Tee-ina-Skee-Mask]

i had a method with bowling that used a curve but was guaranteed a strike every time

[@somadood]

love these vids

[@paulg9019]

My toxic trait is thinking I could easily do this 😂

[@whtiequillBj]

why is a barrier such as the "7-minute barrier" between 7:00.000 and 7:59:999 and not between 6:00.000 and 6:59.999? wouldn't the 7-minute or whatever-minute barrier make more sense to be between 6:00:000 and 6:59.999 cause you broke 7 minutes. Is there a historical reason why minute barriers are named as such?

[@ridebiking]

There’s only 1 person who broke the 7 minute barrier and that’s because their time was Sub 7. Sub 7 means less than seven. So 6:59 and below. You might have confused what you heard. Everybody was going for sub 7. No one achieved it except for one