How Streaming Brought Back The Bad Old Days of Hollywood

[@osochara]

I don’t think the “death of the movie star” is a bad thing. That started celebrity culture, which outright sucks, and also takes away from the story and the importance and focus on it, which also sucks.

[@manyseas1219]

and fewer actors can make it big when celebrity culture persists in movies. death of the movie star can actually be benefit smaller actors and the over all direction of a franchise and movie

[@BigPurp9]

I still think it’s better than the current landscape where the only thing studios trust is pre existing properties.

[@magnemoe1]

This and them using social media without mentors shows how many light years out of touch they are.

[@Rob.S-]

Celebrity culture existed long before movies.

[@bigbrotherau05]

I still watch new TV shows and movies because I want to see one or multiple specific actors. If I read the synopsis and it doesn’t seem particularly interesting but I see actors are attached to it that I like, I put it on my list and I’ll watch it later. But if I don’t know any of the attached actors, I most likely will never watch it unless the feedback after the release is mostly positive. So, for me the idea of a movie and TV star is very much alive.

[@istyleonu]

I agree with everything except one thing. Is it really a bad thing that people are choosing which movies to watch based on the actual movie instead of which actors are in it? Ever since I was a child I thought it was so silly that people would go see a movie just because a certain actor is in it. Then they would act surprised when the movie wasn't good. As if the actors determine how good a movie is and not the writers/directors...

[@mrsticky005]

The problem is that great writing can be ruined by bad acting and terrible writing saved by great acting. Although great acting can really vary because sometimes it's very subtle and other times it's a large ham. I think what makes acting bad is when you lose interest. The worst thing acting can be is boring.

[@ct6852]

Do think good acting performances deepen the film quite a bit. I'm all for giving new actors a leg up...but would hate to see bland and interchangeable acting in every movie just because a franchise turned into a long in the tooth soap opera.

[@Delmworks]

To be honest a good writer/director is no guarantee ether-even a talent can occasionally deliver a stinker-to say nothing of how many movies these days have too many writers. A good actor/writer/director can be seen as a guarantee of quality by audiences but in truth there’s no such thing.

[@ct6852]

@@Delmworks There's definitely a lot of moving parts that have to come together. But all the best actors have said that ultimately it's the script that's at the heart of a good movie, and why the choose a role.

[@cobeyc.b5946]

Yes. It gives us less fresh ideas and most importantly GIVES THE STUDIOS MORE LEVERAGE TO SCREW OVER ACTORS AND THEREFORE EVERYBODY.

[@tbowne05]

Good video but it would have been more accurate a year or two ago. Studios are now cutting back on streaming content in the post streaming war era. Years of crazy amounts of money spent on content has led to where we are right now. Hence why Disney and wb/discovery have made all the crazy cuts recently. Even bob iger has said marvel will be scaling back on what it makes. Same goes for same day theatrical/streaming releases (avatar 2 was in theaters 6 months before it got streaming). Studios are starting to learn that conditioning viewers to watch at home has severely hurt theatrical releases.

[@jimmyboy7817]

Yes. It would have been better if Disney + had been the Disney Vault, an online archive of Disney's classic movies and tv series and a final resting place for other shows and movies after they had been at the cinema and Netiflix and /or Amazon Prime first for a considerable time.

[@RoyCyberPunk]

Streaming is not going away if that's what you think but the days of making shows and movies like crazy forfeiting good storytelling editing visual FX are coming to an end the Snow Brown And The 7 Crackheads is probably the last film from this terrible era as DEI can now be sued to hell as it should be. Much like Networks of old they will have their original first run seasons on their own platform but will then sell the previous seasons to run in syndication elsewhere as well.

[@phillipstephens4522]

I disagree that streaming hurts theatrical releases. We have one movie theater in my small town with 3 screens. Whenever I drive by I look to see what is showing. Over the last 15 years I have seen NOTHING listed that makes me want to shell out money to see it. I do not like modern horror movies, super hero movies, or movies that rely too heavily on CGI. I want good ORIGINAL plot, good characterization, good writing, good acting. Otherwise, phftt!!

[@aidanderson53X]

Tbf this is also in a post hbo and discovery merger world where are seeing consolidation.

[@Gmthekiller]

@@RoyCyberPunk white race doesn't exists. We're all mixed. Even more likely if you're American

[@FicoosBangaly]

I've recently found out that the local library also rents out DVDs. It does suck that it's only DVD quality but the selection is better than all the streaming services combined when it comes to anything before 2018 or so. It's also free.

[@BenHopkins1000]

I saw them

[@Delmworks]

Yep, gotten the occasional gem out of my library

[@josepha.r5839]

@@Delmworks There's one in Arcata - La Dolce Video - in Arcata, CA where I used to go all the time. Gems indeed.

[@EidoEndy]

Same. The library near where I live has dvds and blu-rays. I’ve been scratching a bunch of old films off my list for a while this way.

[@enzodapan5016]

From the success of Everything Everywhere All at Once and re-emergence of films like Drive and Nightcrawler. Studios like A24 and Neon can bring back inventive movies that are really artistically-driven similar to the days of Taxi Driver that isn't some generic corporate-mess of a film.

[@misabelrodriguez1163]

Oh my gods yessssss, I love A24

[@leoelliondeux]

Is A24 gonna start their own streaming channel though? If not, who gets to show them?

[@theX24968Z]

Hence why i feel like this is more of a repeat of the film industry from the 60s, where the giant companies collapsed under their own weight and ended up spawning lots of smaller indie companies throughout the late 60s into the 70s.

[@avaonalee]

"That's a big risk when you have a second vacation home to pay off" 😂 the delivery of this line was absolutely perfect

[@dee-jay45]

This video seems a bit unfocused and all over the place. The most important issue is that streaming simply isn't that profitable. And that's why it's not sustainable.

[@ct6852]

The Golden Age studio system was the original algorithm...that's a really interesting concept. Everything new is old. Definitely like the idea of theaters improving the whole experience and livening it up a bit...there could be live music...bring back the intermission...have barbecue and beer in the lobby or something...I don't know. Would be cool to make big budget releases more of an event. I know they already are--but they could do more to make it worth the trip considering everything might be available day-of on streaming in the future. And it could justify the price.

[@arthurbonds7200]

I second this. While it might not be good for 1.5h movies, the proliferation of 2+ hr movies (Marvel movies tend to be 2.5 - 3.0hrs long) should have at least 10-15min intermissions, which allows comfortable bathroom breaks as well as even improving theater revenue since people will have more time to buy snacks.

[@JoyDonnell]

Side note: The Hays Code, as mentioned in this video, was more than just censorship against sex on screen and profanity. It also set standards on who was an “moral human” and censored sex between the races (miscegenation) and particularly between a Black man and White woman, lgbtqia being allowed to even be seen on screen as existing in the world, and more.

[@numbuh1507]

Well, if they also forbid sex involving children, then it wasn't so bad.

[@celebrityguest.9530]

@@numbuh1507that being the case doesn’t automatically make the hays code a good thing considering every other thing it banned..

[@aaronkelly1762]

I'm going to be a grammar nazi, so sorry. It's a not an

[@mordaciousfilms]

As an indie "nobody" filmmaker, I take pride in the fact that I create things I want to create and answer to nobody. I always felt, even back as a kid when I wanted to start making movies, I didn't really care about being involved in HOLLYWOOD. I have even told people, were I moving to Hollywood / LA area, I would keep making movies on the DL, without trying to "make it" in the system. I generally don't like systems, and have notoriously bent rules. My hope is that more original creative outings will take place at the lower rungs of media and society, like a second wave of punk or something. None of the corporate pandering.

[@RoyCyberPunk]

@weird-guy Eric July's Rippahverse ISOM comics and the Chosen showcase that you can be both Indie and successful don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

[@Urvy1A]

You mean small, boring movies

[@RoyCyberPunk]

@@Urvy1A Star Wars started out as an indie movie distributed by 20th Century Fox, Evil Dead was an indie film as well so your complete wilful ignorance on the subject is duly noted 💩 head. Bye 👋🏽...

[@gokux75]

I am writing a novel and feel the same way. I am most likely going to self publish because I doubt the major publishers will sign a straight White man at this point, but I don't want to deal with sensitivity readers ruining my work or a publisher demanding I appeal to a broader audience. I don't expect to ever reach J.K. Rowling, George R. R. Martin, or even Stephen King levels of fame and money, but what I hope for is people all over the world are able to read and enjoy my work.

[@theecharmingbilly]

​@@gokux75You sound cis. 😬

[@nbonasoro]

We are entering an era in which people see social media and spending time at home with digital entertainment as devastating to their mental health. There is a growing oreference for IRL experiences with other people, so I think movie theaters will make a comeback to some extent.

[@mordaciousfilms]

Exactly. I feel a lot better about life and way more mentally well when I can go congregate with others and enjoy things in-person. I like going to the movies because the experience of "going to the movies" itself is enjoyable for me. I am more likely to stay invested in a movie I'm watching in the theater whereas at home on streaming, I find it difficult to choose things and may get distracted while watching, take my phone out or open other tabs, etc. So much better to just sit in a theater and let yourself get absorbed in the film!

[@mikitz]

@@weird-guy Meaning that sub-section of people being the ones jerking off at home alone instead of wanting to see a good movie in a theater again?

[@Delmworks]

Not so sure. Just because they’re returning to the outdoors doesn’t mean they’ll be back for movies-might be too conversation-free for their liking. But it’s certainly an option

[@gokux75]

As much as I hate the Last Jedi and Disney as a whole I really enjoyed the day I saw the Last Jedi. I went with some co workers and we saw it in 4D. So first there was just the trip of getting to the theater together which was fun. Then walking into the theater and waiting for our time to begin. The movie was a cool experience because the seats moved, water scenes sprayed mist, and air flew past you for for laser shots all while wearing 3D glasses. After the movie we all went out to dinner together before making the trip home. Despite no one enjoying the movie we all still had a great day.

[@YakkoWarnerTower]

I still go to the theaters with family and son to watch movies and it's a nice thing to do things without using mostly phones and computers.

[@huntercurry8604]

Narrator is great

[@expandifypro]

Facts

[@keanuxu5435]

I’m sure he could tell us how money works too!

[@kennedyamosjr]

​@@keanuxu5435I see what you did there😅👌

[@getnohappy]

Two thoughts: - the death of the star isn't a bad thing. As someone born in the 80s, the "star" has always felt like a marketing tool (who's 'in' this year) and film history is full of actors who studies REALLY tried to make the Next Big Thing. - The new boss is worse than the old boss, as the old boss wouldn't harass a viewer out of their job if they voiced an opinion about the content codes.

[@jeffnicholas6342]

I, growing up in the 80’s and 90’s, didn’t realize our film experiences would become an industry standard ‘The Next Big Thing’ was how movies were always made and sold I suppose

[@Valpo2004]

Meh on the balance of it though I think I would rather movies being marketed with stars rather than they be marketed with characters. Because it's led to the problem we have of very little new stuff is tried. It's all remakes and prequels/sequels of existing franchises. And when they ran out of modern franchises to do it with they started digging up franchises who's previous last movie came out 20 to 30 years ago. I am hoping the success of Barbie and Oppenheimer along with a the failure of recent movies in established franchises will encourage studios to take some new risks. Because it's gotten to the point right now that I come across a movie that I am actually excited to see only once every 3 to 5 years.

[@codyw1]

@@Valpo2004 Bingo. The death of the star IS a bad thing precisely because of that. It means the star has to be the IP instead - which is why everything is a bloody rehash now.

[@shadowninja6689]

There's so many remakes these days because Hollywood is cheap and doesn't want to take risks trying something new. It's not because of streaming.

[@aliali-ce3yf]

"these days" ? hollywood has been making remakes forever. just one example is "A Star Is Born". There have been 4 versions of this movie , and the Judy Garland version was the second one.

[@curiousgemini]

One new factor here is the use of digital images of actors who only get paid for the work involved in making them and rarely get paid for thier digital form being used. That's one of the reasons for the strike.

[@BibleArtFashion]

I think what The Chosen did for season 3 might worked really well for other releases. They had the season premiere and final in the theaters ($7 per ticket) and then released on their app a few days later. If episodes were an hour long, then shows like Game of Thrones and Stranger Things might have done really well with weekly releases in theaters.

[@Fran_Fuentes]

Many people for the simplicity of streaming were in the platforms, but if you make it annoying/difficult it's just going to teach the new generation how to pirate stuff. I have Netflix because my dad loves it and it's the only platform intuitive enough for him. About the cancel culture part I think it's never bad being critical of art, even past art and it can make an interesting analisis seeing old stuff with new eyes but not because is problematic/hurtful or just annoying should be deleted of the collective memory. That's dangerous. Greed is an interesting thing. It can lead to innovation, but the excess of it can also make us stagnant.

[@viridianacortes9642]

You’re telling me. I am planning to go back to blu ray. Or I just hope I can download digital copies of movies into my flash drives.

[@aminerkin9844]

nothing wrong with being critical or be cancel culture, except you gotta allow others to be critical of u and cancel you.

[@thomasfeimer1706]

Well, yes and no. "Block booking" wasn't simply about dumping a bunch of "bad" movies in order to grant access to a "good" one. For starters, nobody at a major studio really set out to make a "bad" movie. Some projects were more ambitious or had more prestige attached to them, some turned out better or worse than they intended, but generally most people involved in making studio films back then considered themselves to be professionals making a quality product. Second, a lot of what we might consider classics now, including lots of film noir, were the result of block booking. There's an old joke that back in the '40s they didn't call them "films noir," they just called them "B' pictures (i.e., the second, shorter feature that showed on a typical movie bill alongside the bigger budgeted "A" feature). Studios could afford to take more risks, both in terms of more challenging, topical, or controversial material and on younger or unproven talent, with the cheaper "B" pictures. Block booking, and the films it produced, was a major farm system for talent both behind and in front of the camera. Also, I would argue what we have now is even worse than what existed in the 30's and 40's. Remember, this is the era that produced films like "Citizen Kane" or "The Wizard of Oz" or "Stagecoach." In that era, the moguls who ran the studios in Hollywood had a high degree of autonomy from the corporate headquarters in New York. Somewhat secure in their jobs, they could afford to take risks on projects they believed in. Now, a movie studio is just one component in a multi billion dollar media conglomerate. Movie studio executives are far more beholden to Wall Street, and its insatiable demand for ever increasing growth and profits, and ever diminishing risks.

[@JP-ve7or]

I've never heard someone pronounce Warner Bros. as Warner bros, not brothers. 😂 That company name used to be heard everywhere, all the time.

[@venkate5hgunda]

I love your narration on HMW. Can you please continue on here too! The other narrators aren’t on the same level.

[@alexanderveritas]

Oh well, such is life, things tend to change, and today more than in the past. In my opinion, it’s only a matter of time before most *Cinema* companies and franchises go bankrupt. Nowadays we have millions of streaming apps that allow us an array of seemingly endless content. And about the originality factor: it’s hard to create something new in a world saturated with all kinds of genres from TV series to movies to sitcoms, documentaries, etc. _I would honestly not want to be a director in today’s world, because any company or private that could offer me the funding to my artistic creation would force me to change it in a way to be as profitable as possible that it would no longer even closely resemble my original script._

[@manyseas1219]

honestly movies exist not to be profitable but to promote merch. Star wars wouldnt be worth billions if it wasnt for the merch. Lego ninjago is also a good example for this.

[@mikitz]

This is why indie films industry will get bigger. They have to competitive edge, simply because they're free to do anything they want with no regard to an ESG score.

[@phillipstephens4522]

@@manyseas1219 NOT altogether true. Before they discovered merchandising, there were many, many movies made for the sake of making movies. Yes they wanted a profit but they did turn out many terrific movies.

[@giblet1618]

I’ve always said that the streaming platforms are essentially a new version of studio theaters. And like the old studio system this probably needs to be re-examined and broken up.

[@loveXclub]

It's time the kids these days learn the beauty of peer to peer file sharing

[@darksidegryphon5393]

Ah, P2P file sharing, I am getting memories of hoping to get *only* what you want.

[@loveXclub]

@@darksidegryphon5393 Thankfully torrents have come a long way

[@mikmik9034]

I cut my cable for two reasons, 1. 25% increases in cost each time. 2.) The need for 'decoder boxes' at a monthly rental fee. The family had FIVE rooms of VCR recorders (three in one room). 2a) The 'decoder boxes' did not work, thankfully, so I cut the cable and returned them. Everything was fine for a couple of years with the Over-the-Air broadcasts, I received 23 channels. [I used to get NYC, 95 miles away. Now, I barely get TV Signals 3 to 18 Miles away Straight Line of Sight Towers.] However, when the Cable companies fooled the Legislature into going 'Digital' from the Analog, I could only get 3 solid channels. The rest pixelated, froze, or sounded garbled (like talking under water). Then I found something called KZbin, and Netflix. KZbin is pushing me away with advertisements every three to five minutes, and of course the lousy TV and movies being made these days. Looks like I am back to my (300+) recorded movies/TV. from yesteryear. Yes, I still have my recorders and Old Analog TV sets!... My last theatre experience was "Mother, Juggs, and Speed". Too many children running up and down the aisle screaming dialog back at the screen. An Unenjoyable experience, never went to another.

[@pointyorb]

You should get a digital to analog signal converter. I have one for my VCR and it works great, besides the captions.

[@mikmik9034]

@@pointyorb The US government sent coupons to use for buying Decoders, Did not need them. I am over the Air (FREE) broadcast receivers.

[@pointyorb]

@@mikmik9034 I know, I am also using free OTA broadcasts. I'm talking about converters that turn digital OTA signals into analog ones, unless you already have one of those.

[@lauren6509]

Build up your physical media collection. I've gotten a ton of VHS tapes over the years. They were like 4 for $1 at thrift stores now they've gone up in price. I've even gotten some CDs because some of the music I listen to is not on Spotify.

[@nigerianprince9880]

me watching a 12 minute video on how subscription services will ruin movies knowing full well that i will never pay for any subscription service and will illegally stream all movies

[@TheMysteryDriver]

Problem is there's less and less to watch

[@rjk537]

@@TheMysteryDriver try other countries' content, there are movies and shows being made outside of hollywood too

[@ForcefighterX2]

Did this video just totally ignore the fact, that to date not a single streaming service makes ANY profit? From Netflix (investor money) through Disney+ (corporate money), all of them lose money at the moment.

[@AutMouseLabs]

This video feels at least 6 months behind the curve. It is a good video but at this point it is pretty clear that streaming is not an effective without ads and that content glutting is not profitable. As far as predictions go I think that as resources become more scarce and globalization continues to go into reverse that simpler, cheaper media will win more and more. I can see a scenario where inexpensive to produce programming like sitcoms or game shows make a serious comeback. I also think that cinemas and other public ways to spread out the cost of consumption are likely to make a comeback simply because less and less people will be able to afford a private viewing service. I am picking up used physical media when I can. It will be good to have around. I will say though it is definitely not as convenient as streaming stuff.

[@PrettyGuardian]

I agree that the video is 6 months behind, at this point I don't think we can have this discourse without talking about the WGA strike either because a lot of the negatives we are seeing in films right now are a direct example of how the degradation of their industry has lead to a degradation of what we see on the screen.

[@imkayjaylea]

10:02 I cannot believe that Play Music and CDs would be shown in a video like this. It's a shop that sells CDs, DVDs, and Blurays in a physical store near Parliament Station in Melbourne Australia. Worth going to, I picked up about 20 CDs for $40 so it was only $2 a CD. Again, I thought it was INSANE to see that store in this video. 😂😮

[@JamesTateWilson]

Love the idea of elevating the theatre experience. Seems recent that the more movies I got o, people are showing up late, on their phones, talking, etc. I would gladly pay more to watch in a theatre where people took the viewing experience like viewing a piece of art.

[@theecharmingbilly]

Freddy Got Fingered is a gem!! FGF and Tropic Thunder are this century's greatest comedies. 👍

[@user-yv4mm6bx3c]

History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme.

[@pgbollwerk]

I don’t have any issue with content or trigger warnings, as long as the content is intact and not edited or removed.

[@manyseas1219]

it kinda makes sense to tell the epileptics that your movie might have some triggering scenes.

[@cammyr12Productions]

Yes hate that the original version of the show or movie isn't preserved

[@bltvd]

Are you implying the Dark Knight is somehow a better movie than Freddie Got Fingered? The Dark Knight is a decent superhero movie. Freddie Got Fingered is one of the best movie comedies of all time!

[@joeyjoejoeshabadoo1411]

Swings and round abouts. We're at the beginning of hard time or the end of the good times. Give it another 20 years and hopefully, this mess that we're living through will just be a bad afterthought

[@teddyfurstman1997]

This is why Strikes are important.

[@JulianFischerJulesBarner]

Analogous to the broadway idea there's a cinema close to my sister in law that sometimes does LOTR reruns and even though I haven't been there yet the idea is more appealing to me than watching some disney remake.

[@aimeeinkling]

You got some history stuff wrong...like if you missed the first run of a film in theaters, you missed it forever. Studios quite often would rerelease films into theaters. The last studio to do this regularly was Disney with its old animated films. It's interesting that this last weekend was dominated by the Barbinheimer. Both films being dialog-driven non-sequel movies. The Studio system of the past died for lots of reasons, one being television. From where I'm sitting, it looks like the new Studio system is already dying. Also, when talking about the studio, it's Warner Brothers, not Warner BROS. (They also strongly opposed The Code and resisted changing their content to please the external forces that were enforcing it.)

[@KrytoRift]

I never thought I'd see the day when Hollywood would implode

[@zaltmanbleroze]

So many streaming services I am slowly having that itch in my eye... might need to put the eye patch on and dust that old pirate hat.

[@karmaandkerosene_music]

I've come to realize celebrating actors - people whose job is to do professionally what we all did at age 5 - to pretend - is kind of stupid. F Hollywood.

[@franklinboyd123]

Strongly disagree that people only go see the costume. The current phase of Marvel's movies have less star power and as a result has lower box office returns. Robert Downey Jr and Chris Evans are movie stars. Chris Hemsworth is not. Chadwick Bosman was a movie Star. Shazam has no movie stars. Ezra Miller is not a movie star. The Rock is a movie star, but Black Adam cost too much among other issues. Movie stars still matter.

[@smkdbn]

Welcome back, Chris!

[@mumblesbadly7708]

Olivia “Day” Havilland! 🤣🤣🤣

[@alehunter15]

Excellent video and really interesting subject!

[@AGirlofYesterday]

Ha! If only we could return to Hollywood's "bad old days" of the studio system. At least the studio heads back then cared about making quality movies first, and making a profit second.

[@lord_egg]

Hollywood needs to realise that they are supposed to focus on entertaining people and not earning lots of money while spending very little. Yes they need to earn money but entertaining people should be their top priority. They're also limiting what you can and cannot see just for profit. One thing I have noticed is that most people who use streaming services willingly (As in choose to use it because they want to and not because a specific show is on that service and not on others) are people who would have gone to the cinema to watch a movie once or followed a tv show until it has finished but not want to watch it again. Those who are forced (Again; the person who uses a streaming service to keep up with their favourite franchises) are the type of person who is more likely to have bought and used DVD's and Blu Rays when they came out. The problem is there is also the people who are forced to use streaming services but they are not willing to pay over £100 per month just to keep up with their favourite franchises and shows. So instead they turn to piracy. If the companies made sure to release physical copies those people who are using piracy are probably not going to use piracy and it allows people who can't keep up with the subscription fees to be able to enjoy and keep up with their favourite franchises. The problem is Hollywood is only seeing the profit they're making from the types of people who only care about the brand and not the product. This is what I mean by focusing on entertaining and not profit. The people who actually care about what Hollywood is making are being cast aside when they're the ones a lot of these shows should be tailored for.

[@johnsonctroy]

I think the strikes will make it close to the 70’s again

[@AuthorCertifiedGoof]

I don’t trust streaming. There’s no guarantee what you want to watch will always be there and few of them offer the special features I crave. I’m still a buyer of physical media, but I’m worried about a future where it’s phased out.

[@ecoRfan]

10:15 isn’t just true with movies but it’s been a problem with music too. For almost two decades it’s no longer about how much you sell to make it big. And the record companies have been parasites about the situation. Instead it’s become about performing live shows in order to make a living, which is much more taxing than music sales.

[@SalinaMoonfall]

Censorship coming from Twitter is absolutely a bad thing, old censorship was bad...full stop, but at least it was "usually" consistent. Twitter censorship by contrast is all over the map. This isn't to say that some of the complaints aren't justified...but at a certain point, everything literally becomes offensive if someone "says it is" even if they don't actually believe it is and are simply saying it for clout or to actively sabotage the thing in question (which I do believe some are doing, either for themselves or at the direction of competing studios). As for the return of block booking, we're already seeing signs of studios having learned nothing of moral value and backsliding into exploitive practices both with actors and toward viewers...not only that but they're also showing signs of utterly mismanaging the system they're trying to create, which benefits neither producers of the product or the consumers of it. A lot of this is echoing stuff that has happened in the industry before and seems to be on track to start repeating.

[@karenorgan6203]

I think even Steam is going to discontinue games a la Westworld on HBO to not pay residuals. Here’s to stockpiling things you like, eff the key holders!

[@MichaelPremsrirat]

For Columbia you showed a CBS building, which is incorrect. Columbia Pictures was never the same entity as Columbia Broadcasting System.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

He confused the CBS building with Sony Columbia’s building.

[@ChrisRawls]

1:23 The name Blockbuster makes a lot of sense now.

[@Strykenine]

Sounds like the answer is... ...regulation. Just like it always has been when dealing with companies that become too large and exert undue influence.

[@warsawpacked418]

The problem with streaming is that it works best when people pay for subscriptions but don't watch anything. So, they want to have enough content to attract subscribers but not so much they watch often.

[@TheBakedalaskajoe]

crazy idea... don't subscribe to all of them or even 2 of these services at the same time. i never run out of content and i only pay like 17 a month. also, it teaches these services to release full seasons vs weekly.

[@oluhamilton2121]

Screw that... seeing Bogie as a VAMPIRE was lit

[@YakkoWarnerTower]

Streaming is good but man some of the streaming services are hella expensive lol.

[@SomeOfMyBusiness]

Extending my periscope to watch Hollywood burning from the high seas like Rrrr....

[@fullaregrets5015]

Recommend watching Babylon. Nice movie about the rise of sound & the fall of silent films.

[@ktoth29]

Is that what it was about? I thought it was about the decadence and debauchery of Hollywood

[@mickiemallorie]

Massively conflating issues here, and overestimating Hollywood in the 90s like it didn't have issues as well. Different...but it was no golden age.

[@ThatLoudCockatoo]

I abandoned most streaming services when they censored Community. Bought the box set so I have the original forever and get physical for anything else I care about.

[@dsxa918]

I love getting physical and caring

[@Masonicon]

Streaming services can be excuse for copyright nazism This is coming from a fan-filmmaker

[@dracos24]

Feels like a contradiction to argue the "death of the movie star", to Sophie Turner saying she got the role because she was more popular.

[@ghivifahmi4252]

If the GOT team casted her over the other because of her performance it's not the death, the problem is she got casted simply because she has more Insta followers than her casting rivals

[@mage1over137]

"Death of the movie star" shows Chadwick Boseman. I see what you did there.

[@ThunderDan4808]

Great video!

[@televszn]

Hollywood has been a bad bad boy

[@concernedcitizens4110]

Gosh no wonder we ended up with so many rubbish these days. Also with the strikes still ongoing Hollywood literally needs to revamped itself otherwise all movies in the World will only be superheroes, sci fi and many other multiverses genres.

[@WesleyWhiteside]

One very important bit of information you missed was that Seinfeld is actually CROPPED to fit 16:9 displays, not expanded. Friends might have gotten away with filming in a wider aspect ratio, but Seinfeld didn't. This means you actually see LESS picture and characters bodies are practically cut off from the screen, a much worse fate than your original comment suggested.

[@1983horizons1]

Eh, idk about the retro movie theatre idea. If I'm gonna leave the house I don't want to go look at a screen. I'd want to do something tangible. I've got screens at home.

[@ThaRealBummyDavis]

I rarely watch anything “original” except Hulu. They usually get me with the horror but I’m so sick of being suggested movies that I don’t want to see. I don’t watch movies to see ads

[@91n3tr33]

I can almost guarantee that my old boss has every old film still inside his collection. Bro still has Twilight Breaking Dawn

[@greer-lr2lg]

How old are you let alone your boss? If that's as far back as an old film goes for your gen that's sad...and utter trash too😂

[@D3metric]

1400 dollars? And people think 70 bucks is to much for games.

[@chrisbrass8930]

Ive been saying this for the past 5 or 6 years now

[@MrDecelles]

Not complicated, channel channel plus are not producing content we want to see and they keep adding services that further dilute the content.

[@snakeyman5560]

Damn I didn't know you had a second channel. Can we have a "How cooking works" channel next?

[@AlexFariaOliveira]

I have issues with some of arguments: 1-) I think that in that interview Anthony Mackie was extremely arrogant. He was somewhat complaining that his figure was associated with Falcon, and that in his mind he could be the "Anthony Mackie is:" which is something I find extremely arrogant of him. Look for the names of yesterday Arnold Schwarzenegger, Silvester Stallone, Bruce Willis, Tom Cruise and so on. Look how many people Marvel helped have the breakthrough, if he can complain about not having a household name is because Marvel made him something, without Marvel he would probably be "That guy I eventually saw in a movie". 2-) The main issue today is with film budget, time and price. Tell me: How can tickets price be cheaper if every movie is 2:30 hours long? I can't tell you the last time I watched a movie in an Streaming platform because is a commitment of probably the rest of my sunday night. If I star at 19:00 by the end of the movie is already time to sleep, I can't do ANYTHING else! Now compare this with DCAU with animated movies of 1:15 hours? I can watch a tight movie, go back and play Spider Man in PS4 and still get time to shuffle a few KZbin videos. Also everything is overly expensive. Look at Star Trek Discovery, does Star Trek First Contact had that level of fx? Remember when TNG had a set with a carpet? And that's just to say of TV! Do movies really need to cost 300 million? The Wrath of Kahn had and insanely tight budget, Aliens had the executives monitoring the set in order to save money, limiting budget leads to creativity and directors choosing on what to spend. Also 2 hours movies should earn this and should justify the gamble for studios. I keep thinking while I'm watching Seinfeld and seeing them going to the movies and deciding there what they would watch, can't we see the problem we are in? In order to go to the movies Jeremy Jahns must give at least an Awesometacular because it's expensive, and it's expensive because it lasts 2:20 hours and last that long because studios invested +200 million so they feel movie goers should think it was money well spent, it's a vicious circle!

[@TwilightBinder]

You can still get the unmolested versions of the Original Star Wars trilogy and the original 77 release has been remastered properly by the fans.

[@droneeye2618]

The Warner bros studio system from 30s and 40s gave us some amazing movies!

[@KC-Mitch]

The studio system controlling actors was a big deal. James Cagney - my favorite actor - was famous for his gangster roles. However, he was much more of a theater man who preferred singing and dancing. And you can see it too in Footlight Parade & Yankee Doodle Dandy - my favorite roles of his. You see the exact same actors in nearly all of the early Busby Berkeley films at Warner Bros. - like Keeler, Powell, and Blondell. But Cagney only did one with them as part of an agreement with Jack Warner, and only because Cagney was such a huge star. It's kind of sad to think of the potential movies never made because they controlled the talent.

[@yeleedkram]

Has no one heard of torrents? The free way to get every show on streaming and networks, in high definition, with no commercials? EAT THE RICH

[@celebrityguest.9530]

i’m surprised this didn’t mention the strikes honestly all things considered

[@DeaDlyCorpsE528]

I went bsck to pirating after they started to put ads in the service i pay to skip such a thing

[@thunderstruck6647]

What service out of curiosity?

[@DeaDlyCorpsE528]

@@thunderstruck6647 piratebay

[@sheroukyoussef7896]

I don’t really think that people don’t go to the movies for the actors anymore. There are still certain actors that people all go see like Brad Pitt, Leonardo DiCaprio and Tom Cruise. But it is sad that it seems that it has to be an event film or sequel for people to check it our while some great movies based on original stories are ignored.

[@Spenczar1]

Freddy got fingered was a masterclass

[@Theomite]

I'm hoping the video store makes a comeback. If I had the credit and fundraising ability, I'd open one myself. Scour thrift stores for cheap DVDs and Blu-rays and also try to buy up Netflix's soon to be dead DVD catalog for stock.

[@-haclong2366]

This could work online, essentially a platform paying for certain distribution rights and then renting them out to people through streaming.

[@Theomite]

@@-haclong2366 Won't work. The licensing back-and-forth between sites and platforms proved that. You can't guarantee licenses month to month. A physical copy will play until it delaminates or is cracked, no licensing to think about.

[@Repomidnight]

Remember everyone bragging about “cutting cable” as recently as a year or 2 ago. As if to note they were super cool tech savvy folk. But the old cable system was better in many ways. All the content in one place. Many spending more on streaming than the did cable.it’s the same companies, so was always going to happen.

[@dbsk06]

Surprised this didn’t cover how streaming altered the royalty system on how writers and directors get paid

[@alc5792]

The movie are not released to streaming until it make its full box office run . They could make movie series just for streaming with no box office.

[@SlugSage]

I think I liked the 'Bad old days' better. I'm about halfway through this video, and I'm convinced that the bad old days had it right 🤷‍♂️

[@Daekar3]

Something that people never discuss is the fact that, during the 20th century, for the first time in human history culture ceased to be something created by the population and started to be something created by corporations and sold to the population. This means that we all have grown up in an era which is dominated by synthetic, artificial culture. This Is Not Good. This concentration of cultural power was the result of the technology and associated costs of the time. Now, as content creation becomes more democratized, and especially with AI content creation already getting started, there is a possibility for this to change. If we are lucky, we may get to witness the population reclaim the cultural steering wheel from elites and corporations and once again become the dominant producers of creative output. I am firmly in the camp of those who want to see the existing film and music apparatus die, the sooner and the more catastrophic, the better.

[@greer-lr2lg]

I don't watch PDF files ...no netflix, no disney or any of their affiliates, no subs to anything, don't buy from Amazon etc and only use CASH.

[@xx-go8yh]

If you want to talk about how things work, then you should know how things work. Gone With the Wind may have run for 4 years straight in the theaters but after that it kept returning again and again. Every summer we waited for Star Wars to come back to the local theater so we could see it again. My grand parents took me to see Gone With the Wind in the theater, an eternity after its 4 year original run. Movies were not just "gone for good" after their first run. Disney even planed their theater returns to be IIRC 7 years. The VHS was mostly the death of theater returns with rare exceptions like the Lucas ruined Original Star Wars coming back for a full blown run.

[@DavidHernandezDavidhe346]

The one thing I liked Disney for: their theme parks The one thing I liked Warner bros. for: cartoon network The way these two are treating the things I love about them nowadays is what made me loose all faith in hollywood

[@Herfinnur]

This stock footage is some of the weirdest I've every seen 😍

[@JohnPasay]

I just pay myself to watch myself.

[@spoonikle]

Trigger warning are simply more useful ratings. Its just funny that trigger warnings are triggering the well adjusted who are finding out that lots of people have not been okay this whole time.

[@paulyoung5641]

I doubt that people are watching new marvel movies simply because the old actors aren’t in it.

[@televszn]

"Its likely that modern sensitivities will be mocked in the future" Hey hey hey slow down, I didn't come here to listen to mind bending philosophy that would hurt my parents feelings and break generational curses, lets keep it strictly history buddy