How Strong Is Anime Goku?

[@ToasterXD]

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[@rllydude3600]

what about the mathematically impossible to calculate ssj1's power multiplier scan or another one that states ssj3 multiplies your power infinitely

[@haydenherman8656]

ok so how is ywach even with all the other peoples things gonna beat him?

[@devilgod4552]

If you think about it, spiritual transcendence > Dimensanal transcendence 🤔

[@uzookafor8721]

@@devilgod4552 exactly my point

[@brianwilliams4611]

Yo have you seen gurren lagann because if so can u do a versus of super tengen toppa gurren lagann vs anyone that would make a lot of people mad

[@JARMIDz]

There are other statements for higher dimensionality in DBS It was stated in the Super Exiting guide that the after life transcends the concept of space and time multiple times. Goku and beerus’s fight being stated to be super-dimensional in the 2013 V-Jump issue for the BOG movie. With the kanji translating to the battle transcending the totality of dimensionality. GoDs are also stated to having powers that "transcend dimensions".

[@Hyper7522]

🤓(JK JK JK JK)

[@fw_rhetorical]

W

[@dillpickle7400]

You got that from “OfficialDivine”, huh?

[@officialdivine..]

@@dillpickle7400 ONG 🗣️

[@dillpickle7400]

@@officialdivine.. Keep up the good work man.

[@dontuspowerus1093]

"Oh! Saitama can just surpass Goku during the fight! So he can win!" Goku in the ToP: *gets x12M stronger within an hour*

[@johngobble]

so it’d be like an unstoppable force meets and immovable object situation?

[@Brosie_Osie]

Saitama still solos

[@dontuspowerus1093]

@@Brosie_Osie Nah, Cat solo's saitama.

[@dontuspowerus1093]

@@johngobble Nah, Goku's power growth is greater than Saitama. Goku's power growth in the tournament is like Tatsumaki going from Continental to Universal in an hour. Saitama on the other hand, is a slow burn. The punch that put a hole through space is a clash from Garou and Saitama using Serious punch. And that's not even a "he punched through galaxies" situation, us humans without the aid of a telescope can only see 1k light years away. A Galaxy is estimated by scientists to be at 3k low ball and 300k high ball in Light years distance.

[@dontuspowerus1093]

@OP-ff4mw Breh, those are inanimate objects. Cats can walk, think, and too cute for Saitama to ome punch. Goku could blast the rock and the needle away. A Cat? It's a horror movie for the eggnoc.

[@yokuutsu9097]

Honestly to even downplay Goku, you've legit got to IGNORE a lot of stuff in the verse in the first place.

[@emtyvoidsolosyourfavoritevese]

Universe 7 alone is 6D

[@mel-el5862]

Doomsday decapitates goku with ease.

[@NightlyHours]

@@mel-el5862composite Yhwach solo doomsday

[@jafsjafs8820]

​@@NightlyHourscomposite goku solos all manga and anime characters.

[@Glorgleshmorg]

​@@jafsjafs8820arale kicked vegetas ass and can probably kick gokus ass anyday of the week.

[@ashuraomega1000]

0:52 To anyone who says the Daizenshuu and guide statements surrounding the cosmology "aren't consistent": the cosmology statements were made by Toriyama himself and have never been directly contradicted by anything said by the other writers, anything Toriyama himself has said afterwards, or anything said in the actual series itself. The Daizenshuu alone has many statements that clarify that the universe 7 macrocosm alone contains multiple universe sized dimensions and constructs inside of it with the universe (and by extension these other dimensions as well) being infinite in size. All of this easily proves that the Dragon Ball cosmology IS multiversal in nature.

[@ningnings_world]

I feel like 5-6D low complex multi is a good scale for him, its definitely not a highball and its not lowballing him to low multi either

[@Just_Pradyun]

id say 5d is best since there are major inconsistencies about him

[@superherogamer3484]

​@@Just_Pradyun not at all

[@Just_Pradyun]

@superherogamer3484 there are a lot actually. Not talking about ui since the concept is pretty fucked up but a cool transformation but god ki and ssg are broken af, not broken op but broken broken

[@petermidoriya9044]

@@Just_Pradyun not really the scan he used a transcendental not transcend, transcendental means relating to a spiritual plane so no the afterlife isn’t 5D it’s just a spiritual dimension

[@TheSuperGoober]

The DragonBall cosmology doesn't reach 5D

[@belkoku2691]

Ok, so this is what I think in terms of scaling. Goku as a character: Lowball: Low to high Multiversal (for the people who think my scales below are overwanked) Midball: Low to high complex multiversal (where I and a few other scalers scale Goku) Highball: Low outerversal (for people who believe or say that koyama's statements are accurate) The entire cosmology of dragon ball super which includes all 12 universes and their cosmologies and the world of void: Lowball: Low to high hyperversal Midball: Low outerversal (where I scaled DBS cosmology) Highball: High outerversal I would say timelines because well we seen trunks' timeline and we seen the time rings, each time ring is one timeline, so I may include that aswell but it'll still result in the scales I said above. So Goku being around 5D to 6D (possibly even 7D) is a pretty good scale for him. Great video btw 😎

[@Aleksej597]

i think Goku 10d is good scale for him

[@belkoku2691]

@@Aleksej597 I say that's a little too high, but if you have a reason on why he's 10D then please say, but not a bad opinion though 👌🏻

[@Aleksej597]

@@belkoku2691 im too lazy to write all that, but maybe sometime i will do it

[@kamixakadio2441]

@@Aleksej597 Eeeeh, I love Goku as much as the next DB fan, but 10D seems like a Heavy wank, way too high. He's strong, but he's not close to STTGL strong yet.

[@spiritualkiller14]

He’s way above low multiversal. The dragonball universe is said to be 3x larger than our own. And it has infinite realms that exist within it. I wrote this comment before I watch the video.

[@SoraTempez]

It's a good day whenever ToasterXD uploads

[@ambreenijaz3919]

Fr tho

[@NotDcDanYT]

It sounds weird to me that people call him toasterxd since toaster actually had a main channel and this was supposed to be his second channel

[@pvprogamer]

Fr fr

[@anonymousdonkey.]

Lazy ass comment. So generic.

[@numixnuminowski2981]

Goku is max multiverse 5d is just joke

[@uzookafor8721]

Great video man, goku having 6d attack potency and beign low complex multiversal is conctrete.

[@crabraveclan4645]

Btw, the battle of gods feat does qualify for complex multiversal as the June 2013 jump magazine about battle of gods film says the battle is super dimensional, or, 5d so I just wanted to add that on Cus he didn’t express it in the video

[@ItsB1998]

The movie is not the anime

[@crabraveclan4645]

@@ItsB1998 there is no difference except the extended fight and shenron explanation, there is never a statement that says they are different, the changes are due to retcons and shorter time lengths.

[@ItsB1998]

@@crabraveclan4645 The movie is not the anime. Invalid comparison

[@fw_rhetorical]

@Benimazsuper-dimensional = beyond the totality of higher dimensions

[@fw_rhetorical]

@Benimaz super dimensional literally means to be beyond the order of dimensions. Super dimensions = Cho jigen which is beyond Ko jigen, with Ko jigen translating to the word, “higher dimension (s)”. So it’d be beyond higher dimensions and it’s totality. You could search it up fr

[@cleophas_69]

This guy is one of my favorite youtubers

[@ambreenijaz3919]

This is one of those channels that's never cap

[@connormorgan6884]

This is little off topic but when I first saw Death Battle (at the time they were known as ScrewAttack) did their first goku vs superman video. As a long time fan of the series, I have often scanned and analyzed everything from dbz I knew immediately they lowballed goku. People often asked me how powerful is the end of Z goku? I would always say Multi galaxy level as a lowball. Baseline universal as a midball. High universal as a highball. And my explanation to why goku is this tier is because ssj3 goku and kid buu's fight pretty much destroyed the surface of the kaioshin realm and deformed it beyond recognition. While they never blew it up, the fact they damaged it to the extent that they did is still impressive. Especially when you take into consideration that 99.99% of the universe is empty space between planets, stars and especially galaxies. Kaioshin realm as mentioned in your video is 10% the scale of the macrocosm and for the most part is a solid object, which according to diazenshuu 4 page 72 states the universe is infinite. So 10% of infinity is still an infinite feat. Even if we seriously downplayed the 7th macrocosm having finite scale goku would still be scaled to universal level and the fight in screen we see goku and buu crossing the planet in seconds, clearly shows they're crossing billions of light years in seconds if not infinite distances.

[@jordon-anthonymyers4399]

And people think an ascended human that looks like an egg can beat goku midtama is krillin victim lol

[@jafsjafs8820]

​@OP-ff4mwand shitama aint doing anything to dbs goku in base. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dimityrcherpeliski]

​@@jafsjafs8820goku who can't lift 100 tons in base form and vegeta who can lift 1000 tons with ssj in the manga even naruto slaps him😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Mr.nicklepicklies]

**NARUTO FANBOY ALERT** I mean come on bro, Majin buu could destroy the Kaioshin planet which is universal in size and if you count the mass INSIDE THE PLANET, it turns out to be OCTILLIONS of times universal. This was all before dbs and we are also excluding the fact that he almost collapsed time and space by screaming hard. Naruto only soloing saiyan saga XD and even then, some people have proven that naruto is barely planetary@@dimityrcherpeliski

[@jafsjafs8820]

@@dimityrcherpeliski your favorite character is fodder kid. just cry more. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Bungeez]

Bruh the fact your coming to a goku only video and bringing up Saitama proves your a salty lil child who can't even debate, you probably don't even wash your sheets you infant.

[@MrMiquel42]

My week just got that much better now. Keep up the good work!

[@ToasterXD]

Glad to hear it!

[@mewowdab6903]

@@ToasterXD r u a guy or a girl?

[@Smokeychees]

@@ToasterXDgood video So where you scale him low multiversal ,multiversal ?

[@rllydude3600]

@@mewowdab6903 he's a girl, he's my baby girl

[@GOKU_SLAMS_YOuR_FAVRIOTE_VERSE]

@@ToasterXDtoaster in the dbs manga Moro arc chapter 65 why does it say Moro can destroy the galaxy why doesn’t it say universe cuz isn’t moro universal lvl

[@UnwantedGhost1]

Can you please make a video on how strong Moro, Granolah and Gas really were. And how powerful their hypothetical anime version would be?

[@giovannieriksandu2432]

Anime will be the same as for the manga, cos it'll actually be manga acurated, but granola gas and moro are unbelievably broken

[@Muffin11262]

@@giovannieriksandu2432they tend to change a lot of stuff even the power scale yk

[@giovannieriksandu2432]

@jollyman3980 that's cos the anime came before the manga, thats why the scales are soooo different one each other, but now it won't, as the manga is far ahead, it won't be any anime only or something like that, maybe some extra exaggerations like in dbz but just a very few ones

[@Muffin11262]

@@giovannieriksandu2432 thats a surprise. But did the zamasu arc also come after the anime? Bcz there r several differences in that as well. Like goku using hakai, clones of zamasu, SSG vegeta beating black goku instead of SSB and so on

[@Nub_Fish]

@@giovannieriksandu2432Anime Goku stomps everyone in the manga. Manga Goku is still weaker than Beerus while the anime counterpart is stated to have surpassed all the GoDs

[@frostbite1994]

You are my favorite anime youtuber.

[@Tuga.]

I scale Goku to 5D Low Complex Multiversal. I understand that the concept of higher dimensions might be only spiritual due to Buddhist mythology. However, it's worth noting that it has been said that Dragon Ball also incorporates elements from Egyptian mythology. I agree with Goku being 5D because characters like Goku, who possess divine ki, cannot be sensed by mortals in the Living World who have normal ki. This could imply a form of dimensional transcendence, as characters of lower dimensions cannot sense those of higher dimensions. For me, the scaling is as follows: Low Ball: Low Multiversal Mid Ball: Multiversal/Low Complex Multiversal High Ball: Low Outer I believe Goku's High Ball would be Low Outer due to Koyama's statements. I acknowledge that Koyama doesn't possess complete authority in the Dragon Ball universe, and his statement might have been just his opinion. However, he remains a knowledgeable individual within the Dragon Ball staff, so there's a slight possibility that what he said is accurate. That's why I consider his statement for the High Ball interpretation.

[@ItsB1998]

Goku is solar system tier

[@Tuga.]

@@ItsB1998 Lol

[@michaeljoshua9619]

Fair scale imo

[@joshualanghorst3972]

​@@ItsB1998 when frieza destroyed namek which is one of the smaller planets goku said frieza held back bc he aint wanna get caught in the explosion and when the planet exploded it was seen from a galactic range which would mean that the energy of the explosion produced a large solar system blast

[@alsimmonshellspawn6021]

Gt goku is stronger

[@jpnagaming7716]

I genuinely don’t understand how people think saitama, and ESPECIALLY luffy can beat goku

[@yeahboi_xx9494]

They say that saitama and Luffy are gag characters and became of they can beat anyone and by that logic kid Goku is boundless and can solo fiction

[@santashrek8368]

​@@yeahboi_xx9494lmao yeah i remember 1 pnael of og db goku breaking the panels💀

[@yeahboi_xx9494]

@@santashrek8368 facts

[@mahmodorrahman-e8x]

Beerus was able to destroy a gag characters and we still have to count the feats of gag character

[@Bungeez]

​@yeahboi_xx9494 he doesn't solo fiction, stop being biased

[@DoctorHooligan]

Archie Sonic vs Wally West

[@TheCloudyPresence]

Goku already past universal+ back in battle of gods and absorbed SSJG in his base and than he got multiple times stronger in his base to be multiversal you would only need to be able to destroy 1000 universes which he’s well above that

[@jmrobis1397]

The fact that I have no idea what he’s talking about just proves he knows what he’s talking bout

[@good8619]

Agree, even SSG being a "1600" is a brutal lowball. Base Vegito was already stronger than Ultimate Gohan, who is waaaaay stronger than SS3 Goku, who's at "400". SSG Goku would absolutely slam a hypothetical SS Vegito (maybe even a potential SS3 Vegito, it's not unreasonable) post Buu Saga.

[@Gamer_Lizard_68]

Honestly how I scale ssjg is “how strong was Goku before the ritual” and “how strong did he get”.So if you go with that logic ssjg could be at the lowest point hundreds of BILLIONS times stronger than baseku.

[@haphazardindividual7587]

I feel like most people downplay or heavily lowball super saiyan god as a multiplier but this is just My estimate. Goku when he lost to Beerus claimed he didn't think even fusion would be enough, now i think fusion is character A and B at their full power then multiplied Tens of times, like how ssj Gogeta dominated ssj Broly the same Broly who should have been twice as strong as Blue Kaioken x20 Goku or Blue evolution Vegeta, meaning Gogeta at that time as a Super Saiyan was more than Twice as strong as either of them in their strongest forms minus ultra instinct. Now back to the start of super by that logic and assuming Goku means ssj Vegito as a lowball base Vegito should be ssj3 Goku (400x base goku) + ssj2 vegeta (100x base goku) and lets say an average of a 50x multiplier for the tens of times fusion boost that would make Base Vegito 25,000x base Goku and Super Vegito 1,250,000x Base Goku, and Super Saiyan God is more than likely an even higher multiplier, I am very confident that ssjg is more than a one million times multiplier.

[@Monkes23]

@@haphazardindividual7587probably higher considering the fact power levels by that point would be pretty absurd.

[@Kyspussy974]

Base vegito was equal to ssj3 goku. Super saiyan 3 is a 400 times power up so vegito is 400 times base goku while he’s in base. When vegito goes ssj he is 50 times stronger so u do 400 times 50 which is 20000 making ssg atleast a 20000 times power up. This is a lowball btw base vegito was way stronger than ssj3 goku

[@Monkes23]

@@Kyspussy974my head cannon for the multiplier fluctuates, Toriyama said that the forms multipliers grew as they grew. . So using the ‘50-400x,’ could be wrong, but using the e lowest of low balls is still absurd. The fusion multiplier has been stated to magnify the powers by one another, ‘A x B,’ seems way too high, even for DBZ, GT, and Super. So I just go with best of A + best of B x 100: Goku’s base power level on Namek was 3,000,000 while Vegeta’s base power level was between 1,500,000-2,000,000 either way you’d be looking at 1,200,000,000 + 200,000,000 x 100 = 140,000,000,000x in BASE, ignoring a hypothetical Ssj3 Vegito.

[@hassentrh2118]

"12.000.000" yet they say saitama grows faster LMAO!

[@NorCal.]

Saitama is fodder

[@the-man426]

Unrelated note Saitama probably has infinite potential

[@ningamer5]

​​@@the-man426that's what saitama fans don't understand it was stated by murata who draw opm manga that's saitama still train and his friend with One who made opm they also talk about change there going to make in manga too so his statement can be valid

[@good8619]

​@@the-man426So does pretty much everyone in DB. They can just train and get stronger with no actual limit.

[@Gamer_Lizard_68]

@@the-man426okay but he ain’t infinite in power.

[@Danielathan]

I always get baffled by people who so fiercely insist that Goku cannot be anything higher than low universal without MUI. I even see people placing Goku around galaxy level. They say that there are no relaible feats or statements - and Super has a bad tendency to contradict its own power scaling - but even ignoring the cosmology and taking everything at face value the lowest you could place Goku would still have to be low multiversal in SSG, much more so SSB and MUI.

[@YagamiEditss]

please put subtitles in Portuguese in your videos, I really like videos like this and there is almost no comparison of characters like this in Brazilian videos, only in posts

[@ToasterXD]

I’ll see what I can do.

[@revlismorningstar825]

You seem well versed in the english language, why would you need portuguese subtitles? Also, just learn english, it isn't that hard in comparison to other languages.

[@krollodiamond]

I find that the biggest problem for scaling goku, is that we don't know the multiplier for god form

[@MightyCole1]

mathemically yeah, but unlike in this video its definitely way more than 1600x

[@Mr.nicklepicklies]

400 trillion

[@Mr.nicklepicklies]

if u watch saiyan motion's video it actually has some valide points

[@Mr.nicklepicklies]

valid*

[@erosA15]

So after this. Where do you scale goku Toaster?

[@wcom9999]

Outerversal

[@the-man426]

​@@wcom9999nahhhhh

[@the-man426]

Multi - comp multi

[@TheTwizted]

@@the-man426the only correct answer, outerversal is a massive wank and not a good scale

[@BROKEN_1212]

High outer

[@animoments8969]

On a completely unrelated note " Do you seriously expect me to fight against red haired?"

[@Morgen974]

Nah

[@DirectedByCreepin]

Hey friendo!👋, I just wanted to say great comment! Keep on being awesome mate 😂, over and out!

[@RetroMagnus761]

The cosmology and mortal universe scales to beyond 4D. The afterlife is a higher dimension so 4D to 5D depending on if you take time as the 4th dimension. The entire macrocosm + kaioshin realm would all be around 5D all the universal constructs in universe 7 are infinite in size with different levels of infinity but Goku doesn't have infinite power Meaning his power simply surpasses it in dimensionality. The 6D finite power is superior to 5D infinity. Hence how and why he can handle a power that threatens the destruction of universe 7 as early as the start of super. With all of this in mind it's pretty clear that the most consistent and logical scaling for Super Goku is complex multiversal with irrelevant speed.

[@okaradragonicsaiyan]

This is a great video and all... 🔥🔥 but... Great thumbnail. Lol

[@Livid_kaden]

Ssg 80 million x base form,ssb 4 billion x base form,ui,mui,tui,pui 200 billion x base form,300 billion x base,500 billion and 550 billion times base form.

[@Iron_potato40k]

well no thats kinda headcanon. we can calc ssg to be at least 20,000x base and ssb is 50x ssg or 1,000,000x base ssbe or ssbkkx20 are 20x ssb or 20,000,000x base ue/ui can be calced to 20x ssbe/ssbkkx20 based on vegeta vs toppo and his form being basically the same thing as ue or 400,000,000x base or 400x stronger than ssb. mui cannot be calced. we have no way to find the multiplier.

[@good8619]

​@@Iron_potato40kAgree yeah. The 20.000 multiplier for SSG is also like the safest possible lowball. It's assuming that SS3 Goku (400×) is equal to Base Vegito (who's lightyears ahead of SS3 Goku, and then multiplying that by 50 (Super Vegito). You get a 20.000 multiplier that way, assuming Super Vegito is the same amp as SSG. Realistically, SSG's multiplier is in the millions most likely.

[@Iron_potato40k]

@@good8619 yep. its certainly above 20k but we have no way to figure how much outside of vegito scaling. i guess if you assume vegito can use ss3 with kaioken x20 stacked ssg would be 3.2 million times base.

[@DonDon-gy3qg]

@@Iron_potato40k true

[@jonathangetachew5705]

Scaling is pretty crazy, I remember the days of early DBS when Goku generally considered multi-universal.

[@Infernokid15]

We love to hear 5d arguments. Which I think are completely reasonable especially since the story of journey to the west was only an inspiration and therefore doesn't need to be taken exactly. Me personally I do consider heaven and hell higher planes in dragon ball.

[@wcom9999]

@Benimaz they are higher plane dude . Fact is it stated to be Trancedental not spiritualually but w.r. t Space time , stating to be disconnected from reality of mortal universe

[@wcom9999]

Also These realms in Afterlife follow hierarchical relationship. Making each infinite realm trancend previous infinity

[@NorCal.]

I think it caps at 5d tbh. But 5d is a high ball imo

[@wcom9999]

@Benimaz Lol no not the synonym part . Afterlife is non physical, and spiritual with no concept of time and space . But trnacedental doesn't always eequate to spiritual or being higher dimensional . But for this context it's a high plane which trancends space time of mortal realm

[@TheTwizted]

@BenimazI saw you get bodied in others comments when they pull up promo material and the daizenshu statements further proving they aren’t spiritual and you keep arguing against it basically saying “nuh uh” using your own head canon. Goku is low complex multiversal and 5D.

[@TheKnight-nc7qn]

W vid bro, do a manga goku when you have time cuz he's even crazier than anime goku

[@zenkai4124]

5D-6D is where i agree base goku in battle of gods is but you left out how base jiren was above astral zamasu who would be at least 7D which would make goku and everyone who was above base jiren 7D. Also even transformation multipliers like how the god forms are probably infinite multipliers from the normal super saiyan forms

[@BlackJack32.]

as much as i love dragonball infinite zamasu is not 7D

[@emtyvoidsolosyourfavoritevese]

@@BlackJack32. he is 9D to 11D

[@kamixakadio2441]

@@BlackJack32. He fused with the living universe, and infinite sized living universe, with the entire timeline itself.

[@BlackJack32.]

a feat thats only 4D@@kamixakadio2441

[@zenkai4124]

@@BlackJack32. Yeah i used a lowball. If the universe 7 macrocosm was a normal infinite 3D realm he would be 7D. Since it is 5D-6D at bear minimum he would scale far higher as he fuzed with all the realms in a timeline and into multiple timelines

[@AntispiralAI]

The macrocosum is technically the level 1 tegmark multiverse if it has infinite 4D spaces.

[@8bitutopia1954]

I really hope Toaster doesn’t downplay Nasuverse in that video. You cannot BELIEVE how many people say Nasuverse can’t even hit Planet maximum.

[@jussaiyanz6275]

Mane fuck that weak ass verse wit powers outta wack nahhh jit wakuto verse irrelevant

[@JustSomeGuy9]

Same, kinda hopes he doesn't just say goku stomps with weird scaling.

[@ItsB1998]

​@@JustSomeGuy9He will. This video shows he's a Goku wanker

[@revlismorningstar825]

No idea who actually wins, but I'm pretty sure he'll show just how powerful the Nasuverse is, otherwise why he put them against Xeno Goku if they weren't up to par? (Or even far beyond him)

[@kamixakadio2441]

@@JustSomeGuy9 But Xeno goku Does win. He is a whole different monster compared to canon Goku

[@IsaiahJones-rw1pc]

0:11 on a side note a lot of people like to say Goku nearly destroying the universe 7 macrocosm is an outlier feat but i actually don't think that's the case because most outlier feats in Dragon Ball have usually been the results of powering up or through special properties/ hax but Goku was doing it with his fists alone which means it scales to his physical strength and it's highly likely that still wasn't even his full power given he couldn't control his god ki at the time and so his power fluctuated out of his control. So while Goku in BOG scales to 3D you very well could make the argument that he's already 4D from the start of super and he upscales thousands to millions of times stronger than that feat alone as the series progresses which would easily land him into the realms of 5 to 6D.

[@X-ray39]

Sonic vs medaka

[@theguyfromDMC]

Best powerscaler cooking again.

[@haphazardindividual7587]

I feel like most people downplay or heavily lowball super saiyan god as a multiplier but this is just my estimate. Goku when he lost to Beerus claimed he didn't think even fusion would be enough, now i think fusion is character A and B at their full power then multiplied Tens of times, like how ssj Gogeta dominated ssj Broly the same Broly who should have been twice as strong as Blue Kaioken x20 goku or Blue evolution Vegeta, meaning Gogeta at that time as Super Saiyan was more than Twice as strong as either of them in their strongest forms minus ultra instinct. Now back to the start of super by that logic and assuming Goku means ssj Vegito as a lowball base Vegito should be ssj3 Goku (400x base goku) + ssj2 vegeta (100x base goku) and lets say an average of a 50x multiplier for the tens of times fusion boost that would make Base Vegito 25,000x base Goku and Super Vegito 1,250,000x Base Goku, and Super Saiyan God is more than likely an even higher multiplier, so yes i am pretty sure ssjg is more than a one million times multiplier.

[@FNAF-u2b]

In the buu saga it was stated by chi chi and videl that hevean and hell is comparable to the universe im size it was when buu was about to destroy the grand kai planet

[@lilianpalacios3255]

Bro thank you for making this vid. These Saitama and Giorno Fans think they neg the db verse. They don't beat Goku though.

[@marceresrellios1600]

As a Saitama/One Punch Man fan, we don’t claim those people

[@lilianpalacios3255]

@@marceresrellios1600 Respect🗣️🙏

[@petroshalkos3453]

​@@marceresrellios1600Chad 🗿🍷

[@dimityrcherpeliski]

​@@lilianpalacios3255giorno literally beats goku and future saitama too

[@dimityrcherpeliski]

​@@marceresrellios1600if you don't understand opm don't watch it at all and if you haven't watched jojo verse I recommend it

[@Iron_potato40k]

i tend to calc the macrocosm to 6D due to the supreme kai realm trancending the afterlife.

[@Uksam909]

Goku is 4-5D high muliversal attack potency with MFTL+(quadrillion-sextrillion) combat speed, traveling speed, when Goku goes into his mastered ultra instinct he's faster, he sharper, he's more accurate, he has better timing, he has more accuracy, he at the peek of all those offensively.

[@TheCloudyPresence]

I think Goku could be maybe even Complex multiversal if he really goes all out and not control his ki

[@primalgod7952]

Goku has immeasurable combat speed combat speed and travel speed are two different things

[@MayoTheNnaise]

Man no one has made a hagaromo video yet. Damn 🗿

[@Baileyyyyu]

Prime Hagoromo is probably on par with Isshiki but I do not have proof. But he can literally create something out of nothing

[@NorCal.]

Hagaromo is outer

[@Baileyyyyu]

@@NorCal. LOLLL

[@NorCal.]

@@Baileyyyyu wanna debate it?

[@7thurty]

All this and people will still say saitama and G5 luffy win💀

[@7thurty]

@OP-ff4mw can you fucking read??

[@7thurty]

@OP-ff4mw seek help bro

[@jeremiah394]

@OP-ff4mwthat planetary character is a fooder towards a frog in dbs

[@DestusG]

I'm hyped for the next video

[@MiguelOHara-cw8pc]

Could you do a Goku vs alien x video, I'd love to know where you scale alien x.

[@wazzapgerald414]

I got alien x at outer/ high outer there some new scaling on the rise u can even get some of bens alien to high hyperversal to low outer if u scale them right

[@MiguelOHara-cw8pc]

@@wazzapgerald414 i scale alien x to multiversal. Mind explaining how you scales him to outer

[@ningamer5]

​@@MiguelOHara-cw8pcI forget much but doesn't in last Omniverse episode Ben penetrate a higher dimensional barrier using alien x sword that was made by higher lvl being he also says that even he can't destroy I think

[@MiguelOHara-cw8pc]

@@ningamer5 yes Ben using the power of alien x destroyed a force field created by the contamillia ( I forgot how it's spelled) and the contamillia are 5d beings it was only said the force field couldn't be destroyed by beings who exist in a lower plane of existence

[@wazzapgerald414]

@@MiguelOHara-cw8pc imma give u a link to a vid that goes in depth in the Ben 10 cosmology and alien x scaling

[@MrNotSoGenius]

Can you please do shinra bashoman vs goku

[@dbzmods6429]

Toaster who do you think was stronger during the tournament of power. Manga Goku or Anime Goku.

[@animoments8969]

Anime goku

[@CertainlyCynical]

Why is this even a question?

[@dbzmods6429]

@@animoments8969 yea I agree.

[@DaBossMn]

I don’t think the anime really specifies or utilizes this, but the manga version actually removed Goku and Vegeta’s zenkai boosts. They can only get stronger through pure training

[@godspeedforce9371]

@@DaBossMn it was only in one arc, that statement doesnt hold up after the TOP

[@bigpapan.g3245]

8:55 SSG being such a huge increase in power in BoGs is solely a result of the ritual applying an additional amp. This is evident by SSG not achieving that insane multiplier any other time. In fact, a Goku/Vegeta fusion in their base form goes on to surpass SSB Goku/Vegeta as demonstrated in the anime, manga, film, and novelization. To the videos credit, a 4x increase over SSJ3 is a very safe range. The safest you can get is to use _DBS Broly_ where Broly gets a 10x amp from his Wrath state when fighting SSJ1. However, when upgraded from SSJ1 to SSG, Broly’s 10x amp proves useless (at first). This proves that SSG is very safely a 10-20x SSJ1 amp *at the lowest* Which would be a 1.25-2.5x SSJ3 amp (which sounds insanely low-as it should for a minimum).

[@ToasterXD]

Just to clear it up, I wasn’t saying 4x as an objective multiplier. I actually think it’s FAR higher. Obviously it’s far easier to use that as a baseline. Hope you enjoyed the video! :D

[@bigpapan.g3245]

@@ToasterXD that was very clear. SSG doesn’t have a clear amp, I even addressed how as low as a 1.25-2.5x amp from SSJ3 is displayed as a safe low-end as well. I addressed the SSG Ritual amp claim since a lot of fans will use that for every time he uses SSG, despite it clearly no longer surpassing fusion

[@ethioanime2023]

​​@@ToasterXDI personally enjoyed the video but the low multi downplay is crazy just take vados's Jiren's power transcends time statement and boom 5d And if anyone says it's in reference to hit's time then that will be even better as ki works on a conceptual lvl(works on spirits, concepts of evil like buu and janemba) so Jiren's power transcends the concept of time I feel like u fear being called goku fanboy

[@kefs-y8i]

you could argue outerversal for goku officialdivine himself even scales goku to outer with irrelevent speed you did a great job however it was just a huge lowball for goku.

[@NorCal.]

Official divine’s scaling is so bad 💀

[@NorCal.]

@ahmadadnan4773 this is a lowball. If divine thinks Goku is outer with irrelevant speed then it just lowers my expectations. He has some good scales but some of them are just downright disingenuous

[@joshualanghorst3972]

@ahmadadnan4773 cell is universal though and manga goku has immeasurable speed bc he was faster then gas who was faster then granolah who again is faster then instant transmission

[@kefs-y8i]

@@NorCal. debunk it then

[@hassanhassan-os5oq]

Since when does he scale him to outer because last time I checked he only scales gt to outer not super

[@MonsterGrease]

Vergil vs Saber for a possible future vs battle?

[@ItsB1998]

Kefla was only stated to be spirit bomb lvl AFTER she had gotten strong enough to beat Kaioken Goku in one shot. It's invalid to say that a previous base blue goku scaled to that LATER Spirit Bomb lvl Kefla.

[@abhinandannandan3863]

Ain't no way, DBS content Let's gooo

[@dsm2417]

So Goku without wanks is around Multiversal or high Multiversal. Maybe higher and 4D-5D. In terms of speed you can put him fro infinite to immeasurable easily

[@ItsB1998]

Without wanks he's most likely in the galaxy tiers

[@ItsB1998]

@Benimaz What feats. Go ahead and tell me

[@dsm2417]

@@ItsB1998what wanks??? You just saw the feats and cosmology

[@dsm2417]

@@ItsB1998they were gonna wipe out the whole macrocosm💀💀

[@ItsB1998]

@@dsm2417 "They were gonna" is not a feat. A feat is something that is DONE. Try again

[@greatman5958]

We know that Goku before BOG in the manga was multi-galactic level , at best we can say he is High Universe level This means that Goku was 3D before he turned into SSG, and we cannot say anything other than this regarding the manga if you say that he was 4D in the manga before he turned into SSG, you will fall into several contradictions that require you to say that a normal human in Dragon Ball has 4D power because we know that the difference between Goku ss3 and a normal human is Finite due to the nature of the transformations and all power increases have Finite multipliers After Goku transformed into SSG he became 4D This means that the Multiplier of SSG is so large that it makes a 3D character become 4D, or it can be said that it is infinitely uncountable Multiplier . We know that Goku absorbed the power of SSG to his base form Meaning the power of Goku's base form is 4D Which means if he turns into SSG again, his power will become 5D So yes Goku 5D according to the manga As for the anime, there is garlic jr dead zone, which you can find it in one of the anime’s filler episodes According to Daizanshuu, the Dead Zone is hyperspace, and it is also mentioned that the Dead Zone is created using high ki, which means it was created with garlic jr energy not same kind of hax or any thing like that Hyperspace, by definition, requires that there be at least 4 space dimensions (possibly more), so by adding a time dimension , it becomes 5D. So, according to the anime, Goku from the Android arc is 5D

[@DaBossMn]

So Toaster scaled Xeno Goku to be at best high outer, Tempest scaled Xeno Goku to be between 7-9th Dimensional, and the best reference for a power scale of the nasuverse I have is low complex to complex multiversal SOLELY BASED ON FATE/EXTRA, CCC, AND VOID SHIKI. So I’m actually curious as to how this ultimately works out. I don’t really have a preference for who’s stronger since it’s just a W for me either way.

[@ningnings_world]

Dbs goku is low complex multi and xenoverse goku is high outer to boundless

[@Tempest1018]

I dont use outerversal characters within videos anymore as people misunderstood the tier or either wank or downplay it. So i lowballed goku and sonic to their most consistent lowball but give the clear winner even if we were to use their normal scaling. I hope that clears up any misconceptions

[@ImaPullThru]

Game xeno goku is boundless

[@Evilkidoxdx]

​@marley8684 The only two goku that equal or surpass xeno goku is jump force goku and god fusion goku lol

[@DaBossMn]

@@Tempest1018I’m too small brained to understand the complexities, so your scaling actually was a lot more comprehensible for me lol😂

[@lukasmarcinek6823]

next video 20 finger Sukuna vs Kurama

[@1dfr33]

Man I love when db scaling content is researched and not full of "how I remembers". Got into an argument with a guy who confirmed Goku is universal but since he hasn't been confirmed to destroy exactly 1001 universes he's not multiversal. While also telling me there's no standard definition for multiverse. The sheer fact that the db universe is a macrocosm means that he's multiversal. His first showing in super was technically a multiversal feat

[@Mardiemike]

Bro can you make a video about xeno goku vs anos voldigoad pls

[@The_immortal_mammoth]

Not only is Goku physically strong but also mentally too. Remember dragon ball characters train mind, vigor and courage so they would have own intangible physical energy, So they would have resistance protection against Matter, Mind, Spirit Manipulation unless the user is stronger than Goku himself, it would not work, the dragon ball characters are going to walk though it. This means Goku will negate and resist Tatsumaki's telekinesis and psychic powers or Aizen and itachi's psychic illusions

[@AntispiralAI]

Good explanation, so that means if goku I really 5 dimensional he would be equal to cosmic inflation on 5 dimensional branes.

[@AngryPikachu77]

How's the 'Xeno Goku vs Nasu Verse' video coming along man?

[@ambreenijaz3919]

It's a good day when toaster uploads

[@alebanj]

all these youtubers making goku videos recently is making me buss

[@natashascullion5241]

no hate but i want to point out the word transcendental that they use to describe heaven does not mean transcedences over something it acually means it's releating to a spiritual realm which makes sense since it's talking about the afterlife

[@ToasterXD]

I am aware of this, though there are several translations that also just say transcending dimensions. Using the Buddhism/Journey To the west debunk is more concrete in my opinion.

[@mourathdas5405]

The real question is that "Is goku the most powerful anime character"? (In terms of main character

[@Somthingliminal]

Goku is on a 4d scale and high multiversal

[@joshualanghorst3972]

garlic jr was able to create hyperspaces in an infinitly sized universe and base z goku one shots i dont understand how dbs goku is only 4d

[@gregkareem9824]

​@@joshualanghorst3972you know how dragon ball downplayers are they just love to hate and lowball on goku he must be a troll

[@dimityrcherpeliski]

​@@joshualanghorst3972😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dimityrcherpeliski]

​@@gregkareem9824🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@KingoftheLions-z87]

​@@dimityrcherpeliskigarlic junior was stated to create a hyperspace by the databooks and Gohan as a kid defeated him and Goku was way stronger than that kid Gohan

[@Nickfwan]

Yeah Goku's hugely stronger now than when he fought Beerus in BoG in BoG they were threatening the entire macrocosm which contain muliple universe size realms and wordly dimensions and it was stated with 3 punches would have destroyed it, even the narrator said Goku can destroy universes in ssj. And we gone far past in the tornament of power, and people still think Multiversal Goku is actually a high ball or a wank. Goku he's very casually should be multiverse that's shouldn't even be an argument or debate. During BOG Goku when he got ssjg he got a huge power amp being universal+ but towards the end of that arc Goku in his base was able to absorb ssjg because he was able to destroy Beerus's sphere of destruction with a single punch.

[@godspeedforce9371]

Dbs goku is a league above gt goku

[@Livid_kaden]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around how GT Goku was 400 times stronger than Z Goku

[@godspeedforce9371]

@@Livid_kaden base gt goku was stronger than end of Z goku ssj3 form in base form and ssj3 is a 400 times multiplier. However, failed god ritual ssj goku was said by gohan to have the biggest ki he's ever felt, which places failed ritual goku above kid buu and vegetto in his ssj form

[@cantstopbrock]

@@Livid_kadenhim being 400x is just a misconception. Because Base Goku beat up Rilldo who’s stronger than Boo, Goku’s somehow equal to Super Saiyan 3 Goku from the Boo Arc because of it according to casuals Even though said Boo can include Enraged Boohan who Super Vegetto struggled with

[@tyhiemjohnson7363]

I like when ppl say “ I SCALE GOKU TO 5D “ it really don’t matter what u scale him ITS LITERALLY FACTS WRITTEN THAT HE HIGHER

[@Goji-C]

Heisei Godzilla victim

[@DaBossMn]

I mean you’re not wrong lol

[@PerSon-xg3zr]

Heisei Godzilla is at best, solar system level in the movies. Now there are other material surrounding the Heisei era including a manga thing so those could have different scaling.

[@Just_Pradyun]

@@PerSon-xg3zr hell godzilla victim then

[@Wheels1383]

​@@Just_Pradyuncap also

[@Just_Pradyun]

@@Wheels1383 fuck no gell godzilla solos

[@Dbzjkfhkjdcz]

hmm yes the cell theme playing at the start

[@NonAryanDuck]

Not as strong as Toaster's XD

[@ItsB1998]

Jiren just says "both your attacks are sharper." That can be just referring to Blue Goku prior. It's not established that he meant Kaioken Goku was stronger than Omen 2.

[@ToasterXD]

You’re trying to instigate the evidence of a negative. He’s present during the tournament and thus present for both Ssbx20 and omen 2. The burden is yours to prove this.

[@ItsB1998]

@@ToasterXD how about you just don't make claims that Jiren never said when you have the actual quote on screen

[@ToasterXD]

So you can’t prove ur burden so I’m “making stuff up”? Hilarious

[@ItsB1998]

@@ToasterXD You proved it for me by idiotically showing Jiren's quote while claiming he said a bunch of additional stuff.

[@ToasterXD]

Never claimed that. You’re claiming that Jiren isn’t referring to either forms of Goku. Which you need to prove that he isn’t. I explained why he was.

[@Chris_HT]

That settles it, Goku could be LowComplex Multiversal, thats pretty cool, but it doesnt feel right, the scaling at hand makes sense, but i feel more comfortable scaling goku to Low Multiversal or anywhere near that range because it just makes more sense for the story, and its fair.

[@atrckr-bf7de]

I don't understand how it's fair ?when the story like with black Goku or Beerus and angels and various other thing we see is explained showing how Gokus and gang has grown beyond what you said he's at but ok

[@atrckr-bf7de]

But I will say it is ridiculous how considering how powerful they they're breathing alone would disintegrate everything and this also applies to minor characters, and like imagine sneezing

[@Chris_HT]

@@atrckr-bf7de It narratively makes sense, if Goku was Low complex Multiversal, beings like Zeno and the Grand Priest would also scale to the higher levels, we've seen whis one shot Beerus, and the Grand Priest is beyond him and everyone else, the scaling for them would probably reach Complex Multi or even Hyperversal, and it doesnt feel correct for the time ive watched dragon ball.

[@atrckr-bf7de]

@@Chris_HT yeah I know what you means it beyond ridiculous how far thing can go and is going

[@KakarotScales09]

@@Chris_HTgoku high outer in base

[@AceTheBatHound99]

I know this'll be a little controversial, but I have my own head cannon *Transformation Scale* based on my *opinion* that Mastered Super Saiyan is much more powerful than the initial Super Saiyan transformation. • Ssj ×50 • Ascended Ssj ×80 • Ultra Ssj ×120 • Mastered Super Saiyan ×500 • Ssj2 ×1,000 • Ssj3 ×4,000 • Super Saiyan God (Transformation, Not the ritual) ×30,000 • Super Saiyan Blue ×15,000,000 • Ultra Instinct Omen ×1,000,000,000 • Mastered Ultra Instinct ×12,000,000,000 Through lots of consideration this makes the most sense to me. If ya disagree that's cool, I know his crud isn't cannon. Just don't be a d!ck about it.

[@dumflame]

In short: He can beat yo ass

[@ambreenijaz3919]

Man I beat the brakes off goku goofy ahh nig-

[@animoments8969]

In both ways 💀

[@cole_world5739]

Not mine. Im real🥱

[@noneed-z1m]

@@cole_world5739 mf broke the manga panel when he was a child. what you gonna do? destroy one manga/ billions? delete one video out of never ending videos?

[@hassanhassan-os5oq]

Peak has returned to my youtube page once again

[@petroshalkos3453]

I would love to these OPM fanboys trying to find a logical explanation on how saitama can beat Goku after watching this.

[@petroshalkos3453]

@OP-ff4mw bro didnt even watch the vid 💀

[@walnutstudio502]

Yuta vs Chrollo please

[@asafpm8196]

sadly he still gets no diffed by accel

[@gregkareem9824]

Lol nah he lost to a regular human named touma even dbz goku wipes accelerator and touma together he's outerveral or higher dbs is overkill

[@asafpm8196]

@@gregkareem9824 yeah, no. accel lost to touma because it was his first time ever feeling pain. he was shocked by it. also touma is not a regular human bruh, he himself can solo the whole dbs verse if he gets his arm cut off. goku can't even get through his vector shield

[@gregkareem9824]

@@asafpm8196 no he can't 💀 I've watched the entire toaru series in the anime he's a regular human his best feat is sending a another person to other buliding with his punch where do people get scales about he's high hyperveral to low outer?????? And yes ik about his IB goku is at a higher dimension anyways and dbz goku has immortality negation

[@asafpm8196]

@@gregkareem9824 the anime is like a third of the entire series but it doesn't even matter because goku has nothing that can get through accel's vector shield. it's a passive, once goku hits him he loses. the vector shield was able to reflect an attack capable of destroying all the infinite phases (universes) in the world and left him without scratch. goku nor anyone from the dragon ball verse has anything even close to doing that. touma also has insane stuff when his arm gets cut off. the dragons alone have some op abilities, but stuff like the invisible thing which scared the shit out of fiamma, a guy stronger than anyone he fights (that's his power) and made him think he can't beat touma, beat the shit out of Kamisato, and the fish eggs which destroyed a ship in half that had a barrier that you can break only with the power of a miagic god. the invisible thing was also beaten by both othinus and aiwass but they themselves are way too overkill for the entirety of the dragon ball verse

[@gregkareem9824]

@@asafpm8196 bro? No one in the toaru series is touching boundless lol they def aren't soloing the dbs verse negs toaru series in half

[@lucidstudious750]

Only nitpick i have is that those guides (majority at least) were made before super introduced the multiverse. Also the translation for "infonite" in japanese could just be "extremely large" Now, even if you say that the universe isnt infinite its still a macroverse making your powerscaling still valid!! Its kinda funny to think that gokus ki reached the kaioshin realm when he powered up to ssi3 in DBZ. His counterparts such as CC/Xeno Goku are even more op

[@emtyvoidsolosyourfavoritevese]

Complex Multiverse ore high complex multiverse he is 9d to 11d

[@dimityrcherpeliski]

😂😂😂😂

[@FlameingSlayer]

"Goku is op ee hee" - Micheal Jackson

[@SupremeKingy]

Goku is outer📠

[@gregkareem9824]

High outer to boundless *

[@kefs-y8i]

prove it @NOTarthurboyle

[@mavericktrinidad9242]

what happened to the goku vs Superman vid?

[@1sO2.]

GOKU SOLOS🗣️🗣️

[@Mega_king321]

Nah he can’t solo his own verse;-;

[@1sO2.]

@@Mega_king321 bro I'm being sarcastic. While he may be very powerful, powerful to the point of destroying multiple universes in a single blow, he still can't win against the likes of Anos, LN Rimuru, Hajun and many more..

[@jeremiah394]

@@Mega_king321ik the angels alone neg goku a million times over ;(

[@jafsjafs8820]

​@@1sO2.DBS Goku in base solos all the characters you mention. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@1sO2.]

@@jafsjafs8820 nah man.. People like you tarnish our db fandom's reputation. Let me tell u something I'm the one who knocks.. in all seriousness though get your facts straight b4 u speak. I ain't roasting you cuz u prob a kid.. 💀

[@DenHoodious]

High outer works fine

[@KakarotScales09]

Super exciting guides enters the chat 🗿

[@hassanhassan-os5oq]

What do you mean by this

[@KakarotScales09]

@@hassanhassan-os5oqthe thing i mean is in the super exciting guides its written ssj2 and ssj3 have battle power that cannot be measured mathematically meaning it transcends that qualifies for inaccessible cardinals (this scales to high outer ) it also states afterlife have no concepts of space and time base goku can destroy afterlife which would scale to high outer with irrelevant speed

[@hassanhassan-os5oq]

@@KakarotScales09 who wrote it?

[@KakarotScales09]

@@hassanhassan-os5oq toriyama didnt directly wrote it but it is licensed by toei

[@KakarotScales09]

@@hassanhassan-os5oq n p.62-63, it says that Super Saiyan 2 is twice as strong as regular Super Saiyan, and that Super Saiyan 3 is four times as strong as Super Saiyan 2. It also repeats Daizenshuu 7′s statement about regular Super Saiyan increasing the battle power by a factor of 50. Somewhat interestingly, the comment on regular Super Saiyan is the only one that uses the term “battle power”, while for 2 and 3 it simply says “strength”. This may be to go along with Daizenshuu 7′s statement that the increase in the character’s strength past the battle with Freeza cannot be measured in battle powers.

[@abnormal9613]

I want to see something to do with shiraori from Kumo desu

[@terrance4887]

Think you can do Gojo vs Accelerator?

[@MegaMachiOnline]

there's a video by pbs that explains how an infinite universe can have an edge too

[@Th3Sandwich]

8:31 so we're not gonna talk about how they decided that SS1 is a 2.5x increase in base?

[@Ednaxel2]

It was referring to the game mechanics

[@heyman373]

2.5 times stronger than kaio Ken times 20.

[@thefirstprime0124]

Now Xeno golu vs them that would be a good Fight

[@nosauceyesrough3576]

Your ssg multiplier is the least reliable method but apart from that I enjoyed the video. If I remember right the A X B is only stated once and is widely discounted. Most people agree it’s A+B then multiplied several times. At least enough to be stronger than the 400x boost of ssj3 since Goku believed ssj3 wouldn’t match up to buuhan when base vegito was toying with him. He then stacks 50x on top of vegito by going super Saiyan. 20000x base Goku (super vegito) wouldn’t match up to Beerus (not to mention a theoretical ssj3/2 vegito) according to goku himself yet he believed god might. Bare minimum lowballed ssg is more than 20kX boost not to mention stacking ssj, kk x20 and any growth. Even though a more realistic fusion boost is both fighters at their peak, so ssj3 goku + majin vegeta with the several times multiplier of fusion

[@PotatoPc121]

From what I heard the potara earring is times 100x but I don’t know if it’s completely true so take it with a grain of salt

[@nosauceyesrough3576]

@@PotatoPc121 like with anything that isn’t concrete, any headcanon you want to use could be it at one point or another. So long as it isn’t absurdly lowballed or high balled it doesn’t really matter. Personally I think base vegito back during the buu saga was somewhere around 50X (as a nice middle ground) ssj3 goku + ssj 2 vegeta on top of the 50x multiplier of super vegito. Since they were at the same power in base (according to their ssj2 fight) that means (in my headcannon) that bare minimum ssg is a 1.25 million multiplier even though it should be higher since god was stronger than super vegito and since bluegito is a thing there’s no reason to believe ssj3 vegito wouldn’t be. So more around a 10 million x base boost. Only being able to guess comes with the territory of the inconsistent and random strength levels and multipliers of dragon ball lmao

[@Monkes23]

It depends on what you think the multiplier for fusion is, either being A x B, A + B or A + B x? Either way I think it's a mix of the two, that being the best of 'A,' and the best of 'B,' times 'something,' and or magnified by a random number, AS STATED by an Angel. Either way the SSG multiplier is so utterly broken, even if someone were to so tremendously downplay the growth from the Namek saga to the end of Super, for Vegito's power level in base you'd get 152,000,000x at one of the lowest of lowballs, seeing as Goku's current peak at that point in time was a power level of a hundred and fifty million, while Vegeat's power level can be debated but isn't lower than 1,500,000 or higher than 2,500,000. But the multiplier will obviously change and increase as the fighters do, so this can be higher/lower depending on your take on growth, the math behind the fusion amp itself, and the form's multipliers later on, example of this being people getting mastered Super Saiyan to 1,000-2,000x thus increasing SSJ2 and SSJ3.