How Strong Is GT Goku?

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ToasterXD

ToasterXD

5 ай бұрын

In this video, I go over how strong Goku is in Dragon Ball GT, one of the most contentious versions of Goku. This is a continuation of my "The Strongest Versions Of Son Goku" video, in which I specifically discuss GT Goku and how he could potentially be stronger than Super.
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@ToasterXD
@ToasterXD 5 ай бұрын
Welcome to the Grand Tour. Twitter: x.com/toasterecksdee?s=21&t=ZKflubNc9sOEEyOrVHLxWg
@Julian.noah2
@Julian.noah2 5 ай бұрын
Yo toaster can you do buu saga Goku vs ichigo
@X-ray39
@X-ray39 5 ай бұрын
GT Grand tour
@j.i.k2.044
@j.i.k2.044 5 ай бұрын
@@X-ray39 *Goku Time
@menacingpotatoleaf
@menacingpotatoleaf 5 ай бұрын
You say Raditz like his name is a slur 😭
@ToasterXD
@ToasterXD 5 ай бұрын
Filthy Raditz.
@MrMysterious101
@MrMysterious101 5 ай бұрын
What sup my "RADITZ"
@-jOe_MAMA-
@-jOe_MAMA- 5 ай бұрын
Well ur moms a Raditz
@PumpkinNite
@PumpkinNite 5 ай бұрын
@@MrMysterious101Raditz Raditz Raditz Raditz Raditz Raditz, I’m 100% Raditz!
@spimgamofexe
@spimgamofexe 5 ай бұрын
Son of a raditz
@memelord2135
@memelord2135 5 ай бұрын
Honestly I have some fond memories of GT from when I was first introduced to Dragonball and found out there was a continuation of dragon ball after Z
@TheSCPStudio
@TheSCPStudio 2 ай бұрын
Me too but I also have fond memories of growing up and realizing how terrible it actually is.
@brendanjohnson8979
@brendanjohnson8979 Ай бұрын
@@TheSCPStudiowell that was a little upsetting, but to each their own
@samuraiblack8840
@samuraiblack8840 5 ай бұрын
Remember when people say Saitama scaled to goku because he kicked hyperspace 😂. When garlic jr summoned one at will by ki alone lol
@badprofilepic882
@badprofilepic882 5 ай бұрын
Lmao OK let's bring up kid goku throwing hands with arale and him breaking a manga panel.
@godspeedforce9371
@godspeedforce9371 5 ай бұрын
It was against yamcha​@@badprofilepic882
@jonathanbenoit-mj9cv
@jonathanbenoit-mj9cv 5 ай бұрын
I mean saitama can win with his growth like broly did Murata himself said he will make saitama stronger than terra 2 Terra 2 before debunk scaled to boundless or high outer But currently if goku doesnt let saitama grow goku handwaves the verse casually
@ka_killers2088
@ka_killers2088 5 ай бұрын
@@jonathanbenoit-mj9cvhe doesn’t have Broly kind of growth sorry to tell you without the gag character gimmick he gets bodied in dragon ball super
@jonathanbenoit-mj9cv
@jonathanbenoit-mj9cv 5 ай бұрын
@ka_killers2088 your right he doesn't have broly kind of growth He's superior The only reason broly seems more impressive is becuz he fought goku so he had someone much stronger to grow off of Garou is much weaker so he couldn't get as much gains as broly did Broly grew so much cuz goku and vegeta were much much stronger at the start of the fight But either way If murata actually follows up on his word making saitama stronger than terra 2 saitama Goku gets gapped casually
@badprofilepic882
@badprofilepic882 5 ай бұрын
I believe that end of gt goku entering his changed state directly parallels the ending of the journey to the west where Sun Wukong attains enlightenment by entering a state of Nirvana and transcending everything in existence, essentially becoming the strongest.
@juliusnovachrono4370
@juliusnovachrono4370 5 ай бұрын
That does make a lot of sense, considering Goku's omnipresence when he says goodbye to everyone. Its quite poetic.
@fishnutz5196
@fishnutz5196 5 ай бұрын
Thats exactly what it symbolises and its exactly why the ending of GT is the perfect send off for Dragonball. Both Mori Jin from GoH and Goku from GT have a similar ending, achieving enlightenment and looking over reality as a god.
@ZackSNetwork
@ZackSNetwork 5 ай бұрын
@@fishnutz5196Except Goku never was and never did become a God lol.
@fishnutz5196
@fishnutz5196 5 ай бұрын
@@ZackSNetwork no he didnt but its symbolism of him achieving godhood
@uzookafor8721
@uzookafor8721 5 ай бұрын
Nice 👍 one
@personahearts358
@personahearts358 5 ай бұрын
REALLY happy to see not only people realizing how underrated GT is, but that the scaling in comparison to Super wasn’t what a lot of the fandom that for years.
@omnijonn277
@omnijonn277 5 ай бұрын
so this means base gohan gt far greater than gohan super hero ultimate
@deeeplygoated4261
@deeeplygoated4261 5 ай бұрын
​@@omnijonn277yes
@Insignia-pp1eh
@Insignia-pp1eh 5 ай бұрын
Maybe, but it also depends on the characters power​@@omnijonn277
@wolvesrevenge866
@wolvesrevenge866 5 ай бұрын
​@@omnijonn277I heard from someone it was stated somewhere that Gohan actually somewhat kept up with his training in gt but not sure if it's true
@cantstopbrock
@cantstopbrock 5 ай бұрын
@@wolvesrevenge866 GT Perfect Files state it. And it’d make sense that he did. Rilldo surpasses Boo, Infant Bebi surpasses Rilldo, Base Goten surpasses Teen Bebi and Base Gohan matches Super Saiyan Goten. Right there we could be looking at a Base Gohan who’s more than 50x Super Vegetto from the Boo Arc. Not to mention the Super 17 Arc where Majoob believed a Kamehameha from BASE Gohan did something to Super 17 despite his own punches/kicks having zero effect.
@yungblade7
@yungblade7 5 ай бұрын
You explained the omega shenron universal feat in the best way🔥
@ty.shota23
@ty.shota23 4 ай бұрын
It isnt universal bud
@megawarrior_101
@megawarrior_101 3 ай бұрын
@@ty.shota23you’re right, it’s multi universal
@TCBlueFire
@TCBlueFire 3 ай бұрын
​@@megawarrior_101it macrocasm, similar to beerus and god goku clash but by existing
@gamerthings2559
@gamerthings2559 5 ай бұрын
The Goku in the daizenshuu with Bulma beside him looks SO cursed.
@BrazilBoi55
@BrazilBoi55 5 ай бұрын
Almost has a Baki vibe to it lol
@MetalHopper
@MetalHopper 5 ай бұрын
Waku waku
@mangaaddict3056
@mangaaddict3056 2 ай бұрын
It kinda looks like ntr fanart, lmfaoooooo
@samloveseditz
@samloveseditz 2 ай бұрын
he looks like he came from a creepypasta
@chocoburgersenpai1627
@chocoburgersenpai1627 Ай бұрын
it looks like he about to groom some kids probably pan
@Insignia-pp1eh
@Insignia-pp1eh 5 ай бұрын
GT Goku is extremely strong, many underestimate him
@j.i.k2.044
@j.i.k2.044 4 ай бұрын
That's because many GT fans overestimate him
@Insignia-pp1eh
@Insignia-pp1eh 4 ай бұрын
not really@@j.i.k2.044
@Ilias24.
@Ilias24. 4 ай бұрын
​@j.i.k2.044cry more dbstard
@ty.shota23
@ty.shota23 4 ай бұрын
​@@j.i.k2.044literally stronger than ssg goku from battle gods
@j.i.k2.044
@j.i.k2.044 4 ай бұрын
@@ty.shota23 Nope he lacks the feats to back it up
@greatman5958
@greatman5958 5 ай бұрын
There is an impressive feat in terms of speed The baby Revenge Death Ball attack was able to reach Kibito Kai during his teleportation Later we see Goku SSJ4 reacting to the same attack
@TCBlueFire
@TCBlueFire 3 ай бұрын
I think that's infinite or Irreveant speed feat and omnipotent feat because it transend that dimension that takes you to a location instantly and entering a realm with rules that you can't escape from, kinda like backrooms which he destroys
@greatman5958
@greatman5958 3 ай бұрын
@@TCBlueFire yes , it's Irreveant speed Because sub space transcends the concept of time and space
@kingrecco404
@kingrecco404 5 ай бұрын
Brother is goated with the sauce
@Bat-Gos
@Bat-Gos 5 ай бұрын
Now that you mention it, I hope you do an Invincible video sometime soon.
@tiltltt
@tiltltt 5 ай бұрын
After all these years, maybe GT Goku's state EOS is inspired by buddhism, chinese spirituality or even the story of Sun Wukong itself.
@quintonbrooks7536
@quintonbrooks7536 5 ай бұрын
He base off and inspired mostly journey of the West
@tiltltt
@tiltltt 5 ай бұрын
@@quintonbrooks7536 and journey to the west has elements from all of these lmao
@quintonbrooks7536
@quintonbrooks7536 5 ай бұрын
@@tiltltt ok well u wouldn't mind if there is a goku movie or navel that has a reference to them tbh seeing how dragon is base off mythology it'll be cool
@quintonbrooks7536
@quintonbrooks7536 5 ай бұрын
@@tiltlttI ment to put the ladder I typo
@gregkareem9824
@gregkareem9824 5 ай бұрын
​@@tiltltt stop cursing its a sin
@jschannel6319
@jschannel6319 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been trying to explain how Goku scales above Arale, due to just existing in the DB world, on your Saitama vs Raid video.
@Antimagix
@Antimagix 5 ай бұрын
Epic 🔥
@perminator218
@perminator218 5 ай бұрын
Can i gove you recommendations of verses to powerscale?
@justsomeshinychewtlewitham6097
@justsomeshinychewtlewitham6097 5 ай бұрын
2 Issues 1) The Toei statement seems weird to me because 4 is consistently compared to Vegito which isn't that scary for characters on that level , if it said SSJ 4 Goku it would seem more logical 2)I think that theres a Toriyama statement about Arale being stronger than Goku that would contredict that
@ToasterXD
@ToasterXD 5 ай бұрын
1) - The Toei statement doesn’t really matter because it’s not apart of the scaling. I brought it up because of the thumbnail. 2) - that Arale>Goku statement was made when Goku was a child in OG dragon ball not anytime after that so it doesn’t apply at all.
@retroguy95
@retroguy95 5 ай бұрын
​@@ToasterXDwhere is the statement from? like is there a source I can't seem to find it I really want to see the post.
@PikachuGamerSMT
@PikachuGamerSMT 5 ай бұрын
Arale is Low 1C on vsbattles wiki but all the Goku’s (besides Xenoverse and SDBH) are 2C so should they be changed (as Goku is stronger than Arale according to Toriyama) or what?
@TheBigJord
@TheBigJord 5 ай бұрын
What I would really hope for in the future is for super sayain 4 to be utilized in the super timeline, I really would like the idea of an even truer sayain form that draws out the essence of sayains more. as opposed to continued transformation leads to new transformation leads to new... you get the picture, super sayain 4 would be something akin to the new form that has combined everything that sayain has acheived. Like it could have the unique characteristics of each sayain fighter, goku's is mixed with ultra instinct (so maybe white), Vegeta with ultra ego so maybe purple, broly green (brute strength I guess), even gohan could get somethign mixed with beast, and they would all be acheiving an "ultimate form" in their own ways... and with that ultimate sayain form their power would be free to grow to any peak as long as they fight it!
@brendanjohnson8979
@brendanjohnson8979 Ай бұрын
Well now that toyotaro is in charge of dragon ball now as toriyamas successor I believe he can make that happen, maybe the even hinted ssj5 from GT by bulma. Only reason we don’t have it in super is because toriyama said he didn’t feel like drawing the tails and too much of a design felt like too much for him to draw. And I don’t see too much of a problem with that since he’s spending days and even months to years. However that still makes him seem lazy to most people since that’s the whole reason he just stopped including sayain tails as a whole, also why bulls never had one mentioned at all
@rezaz0r702
@rezaz0r702 5 ай бұрын
Best recap
@peter_griffinxedit
@peter_griffinxedit 5 ай бұрын
Good video👍 Will you ever cover SpongeBob vs Goku
@Keith_Norman
@Keith_Norman 5 ай бұрын
Great video I'm just tired of people thinking that GT Goku is stronger than anime itself or outerversal
@malakialighieri
@malakialighieri 5 ай бұрын
i don’t think that arale should even be considered or compared to goku. she doesn’t obey the laws of fiction so no matter what she will always be over him
@hardcoore_gyt9254
@hardcoore_gyt9254 5 ай бұрын
She even made Beerus obey her gag
@CrucialMutual
@CrucialMutual 5 ай бұрын
Apparently the writers dont agree with you
@uzookafor8721
@uzookafor8721 5 ай бұрын
​@@hardcoore_gyt9254Beerus flicked Arale away with his ki.
@uzookafor8721
@uzookafor8721 5 ай бұрын
Every fictional character does not obey the laws of physics
@malakialighieri
@malakialighieri 5 ай бұрын
@@uzookafor8721 yea i said the laws of fiction not physics
@fffuuuyyyuuu4475
@fffuuuyyyuuu4475 5 ай бұрын
Could you give a source for the Toei statement in 12:00 ? the one with whis being afraid in it
@retroguy95
@retroguy95 5 ай бұрын
would be great if he did, I can't find it anywhere.
@fffuuuyyyuuu4475
@fffuuuyyyuuu4475 5 ай бұрын
@@retroguy95 yeah it's fake
@Ilias24.
@Ilias24. 4 ай бұрын
​@@fffuuuyyyuuu4475cry
@retroguy95
@retroguy95 4 ай бұрын
@@fffuuuyyyuuu4475 it's not fake I found it, it's from one of those test things to see what character you are
@DBK_Productions
@DBK_Productions 3 ай бұрын
@@retroguy95 do you have a link to it?
@DKYT84
@DKYT84 4 ай бұрын
Can you scale Alien X? I see a lot of people say he's universal and then a lot of others say that he's anywhere from multiversal - boundless. While I highly doubt he's a boundless being, I'd just like to get your take on it considering that you're a reliable and unbiased scaler.
@TheMurphyParadox
@TheMurphyParadox 2 ай бұрын
He's Hyperversal/1-B, 26th Dimensional more specifically
@ESTproducing
@ESTproducing 5 ай бұрын
So at minimum universal, at maximum with the best interpretation, hyperversal
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow 5 ай бұрын
Minimum is Low Multiversal
@ESTproducing
@ESTproducing 5 ай бұрын
@@ShonenGoon How?
@DannyLee-zv9gl
@DannyLee-zv9gl 5 ай бұрын
@@jocoolshow lol no
@cantstopbrock
@cantstopbrock 5 ай бұрын
@@ESTproducingbecause the Dragon Ball Macrocosm is made up of multiple space time continuums that are at least Universe-sized. Destroying it is a Low-Multiversal Feat.
@playerback7722
@playerback7722 Ай бұрын
..
@MegaMachiOnline
@MegaMachiOnline 5 ай бұрын
The DBS Manga Trailer/PV on the Official Dragon Ball Site is captioned saying that DBS Goku is the newest and strongest iteration of Goku, if we really want to go about comparing alternate timelines and his portrayal across media. This trailer includes Ultra Instinct Goku in the mix though. And obviously this is presented to us despite GT being acknowledged as a grand side story.
@gorge1365
@gorge1365 5 ай бұрын
Does not really matter cuz GT exist and is very exagerated.
@XxSpirothKurotamaMOONLIGHTxX
@XxSpirothKurotamaMOONLIGHTxX 4 ай бұрын
"captioned saying that DBS Goku is the newest and strongest iteration of Goku" NEWEST STRONGEST, that means he's the strongest of THIS era, that doesn't mean he's stronger than GT goku it just means that DBS goku is the strongest as of this period of time. if daima does well they'll probably say HE'S the strongest goku of all time, that's how these companies are, they're gonna big up what makes them more money, but you knew that.
@Nice_Person7379
@Nice_Person7379 4 ай бұрын
Its also presented to us despite Game Xeno Goku existing
@void1935
@void1935 4 ай бұрын
ayo man u should make a video on (Terra 2 saitama vs Goku) please
@mechablade4756
@mechablade4756 Ай бұрын
Hey man how ya doin Been a while since u took a break
@Skillz1023
@Skillz1023 Ай бұрын
He’s coming back Dw
@MrCraftyScales
@MrCraftyScales 5 ай бұрын
Oh btw for kid Buu feat, The Grand Kai Planet contains an extra dimensional space
@X-ray39
@X-ray39 5 ай бұрын
Archie sonic vs medaka
@Sam_Sam2
@Sam_Sam2 5 ай бұрын
Real
@isaacbell5156
@isaacbell5156 5 ай бұрын
Archie Sonic slaps no diff
@TeRminatoR87562
@TeRminatoR87562 5 ай бұрын
Let's get some popcorn and watch the war break out on this comment
@X-ray39
@X-ray39 5 ай бұрын
@@TeRminatoR87562 me too bro
@THEMilesMorales
@THEMilesMorales 5 ай бұрын
Medaka
@theblacksaiyanprince7082
@theblacksaiyanprince7082 4 ай бұрын
Can u do beerus vs kaguya and yhwach
@florencecapulong9186
@florencecapulong9186 28 күн бұрын
Yo ToasterxXD is it ok u can make a video about rimuru tempest vs goku
@simeon8814
@simeon8814 4 ай бұрын
Link for the toei animation statement?
@spunchbob1
@spunchbob1 5 ай бұрын
faxs bother keep spiting
@gorge1365
@gorge1365 5 ай бұрын
I always belive and proved that GT is far to exagerated than Super & keep telling everybody but they are too ignorant being trolls, W video my man, good work👍🏻
@JD_Xly
@JD_Xly 3 ай бұрын
W Shirou Emiya pfp
@fidelgames
@fidelgames 5 ай бұрын
Where did you get that last Toei statement from of how Super Saiyan 4 can scare off Whis?
@pasty188
@pasty188 5 ай бұрын
It’s simple there is no whereBeerus in for GT
@Ilias24.
@Ilias24. 4 ай бұрын
​@pasty188 crunchyroll interview
@fidelgames
@fidelgames 4 ай бұрын
@@Ilias24. Which crunchyroll interview was that? You got a link?
@chocoburgersenpai1627
@chocoburgersenpai1627 Ай бұрын
its fanmade
@okaradragonicsaiyan
@okaradragonicsaiyan 5 ай бұрын
That scan saying "Even whis is afraid" is a fake scan, Before people think its real
@ToasterXD
@ToasterXD 5 ай бұрын
It isn’t, it’s from a Crunchyroll interview
@okaradragonicsaiyan
@okaradragonicsaiyan 5 ай бұрын
@@ToasterXD edit: turns out it wasnt even in a crunchyroll interview... and was fabricated by an ai generator. So someone actually lied to you about that.. and i thought it was fake but it aint even a scan, just fanmade
@ToasterXD
@ToasterXD 5 ай бұрын
@@okaradragonicsaiyanit’s just transcripts from the interview.
@okaradragonicsaiyan
@okaradragonicsaiyan 5 ай бұрын
@@ToasterXD all im saying is the real one doesnt say "even whis is afraid".
@mygod5500
@mygod5500 5 ай бұрын
I don't see how Whis would be afraid when He was casually dancing with Brolly who was powerful enough to punch out Super-dimensional space and reality. The Perfect Files and Raw Perfect Files all states Omega and Sin Sheron are galaxy busters
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow 5 ай бұрын
Where did the Toei statement at the end come from?
@Ilias24.
@Ilias24. 4 ай бұрын
Interview
@DBK_Productions
@DBK_Productions 2 ай бұрын
@@Ilias24.interview with who
@coolkid_189
@coolkid_189 5 ай бұрын
Bro could you pls scale the pokemon verse and characters like mewtwo, deoxys, palkia, dialga, rayquaza, arceus, and necrozma
@Zee_Raho
@Zee_Raho 5 ай бұрын
i had done my scaling and saw other youtuber like offical devine and the conclusion is dat goatku Gt scales somewhere from mid outversal to high outversal
@brandonhobbsjr.1785
@brandonhobbsjr.1785 3 ай бұрын
Let's not forget that GT goku is movie goku because movie villains have appeared in GT. So nothing only did he fight the original Z villains but he fought all the movie villains too.
@thomaslodger7675
@thomaslodger7675 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if you can help me. A while ago i saw a video that was over 4 hours long detailing only SSJ4 Goku's power scaling. The uploader was British.
@djn6962
@djn6962 2 ай бұрын
Pretty sure that you’re talking about Saiyan Scholar
@thomaslodger7675
@thomaslodger7675 2 ай бұрын
@@djn6962 that's the thing, it wasn't him but he did comment on the video I'm talking about. He has created a very long video on GT power scaling, but not specifically Goku. The guys mic quality also sounded like it was from a 2015 dell built in laptop mic
@djn6962
@djn6962 2 ай бұрын
@@thomaslodger7675ah, then I really don’t know. Sorry haha
@siphezulu5119
@siphezulu5119 5 ай бұрын
Goku does get at least to 5D, the subspace is canon to GT and Super, suguruku space is explored in GT and it is considered as a space between dimensions, I’m not big Astro physicists or whatever but going beyond multiple infinite sized dimensions should account for something, greater level of infinite since it is basically what it is beyond these endless spaces, this might not be an outright dimensional transcendence because it is never stated at least not directly but it is at least kind of implied because supreme Kai’s technique is stated to be not limited by distance but he still can warp to to dimension, I’ll leave this up to your interpretation as you power scalers but that’s not all what’s even more impressive is that the subspace is supposed to be even more spacial since siguroku space and Room of spirit and time are stated be recognised here meaning that the siguroku space that supreme can’t warp into, is not even the main villain and this is subspace stated to have no concept of space and time which is a pretty big stated because this is not zero dimensional but DB only cap at 4D is the biggest cap out there. I don’t know where they scale but 5D is minimum for sure.
@Gogetafan17
@Gogetafan17 3 ай бұрын
Day 1:hey toaster,can u do a Goku vs Kiana(honkai impact 3rd) to c who wins?
@fars5x6x48
@fars5x6x48 5 ай бұрын
Can you do a video of goten and trunks vs Naruto and sasuke?
@viztek7140
@viztek7140 5 ай бұрын
can you make a gogeta VS vegito video ?
@Tappin_YT
@Tappin_YT Ай бұрын
Where did you go
@Skillz1023
@Skillz1023 Ай бұрын
He’s back soon Dw
@wolvesrevenge866
@wolvesrevenge866 5 ай бұрын
More often than not super fanboys hate on gt just likw how WWE fanboys hate on AEW. Its a plague of the internet and competition it seems. Either way super is underrated and would have been the perfect opportunity to introduce it possibly in the universal tournament since some universes are completely different or similar
@perminator218
@perminator218 5 ай бұрын
Where do you scale DBS Goku? Would you say GT cosmology is bigger than super?
@godslayer8894
@godslayer8894 5 ай бұрын
Not a chance
@ToasterXD
@ToasterXD 5 ай бұрын
Gt’s cosmology is technically larger with the Suguru Space, but it doesn’t really offer anything tbh. And I scaled DBS Goku already
@godslayer8894
@godslayer8894 5 ай бұрын
@@ToasterXD I would have to disagree GT is not larger than Super anyways super also has more powerful beings Anyways love the channel
@perminator218
@perminator218 5 ай бұрын
@@ToasterXD Sorry, but I forgot where you scaled him to
@omnijonn277
@omnijonn277 5 ай бұрын
The writer states change state goku is in a place where no one cant get to make me to believe it does applies to arale@@ToasterXD
@DarkMori_
@DarkMori_ 5 ай бұрын
DOES BRO HAVE THE SAUCE
@MrCraftyScales
@MrCraftyScales 5 ай бұрын
Also peak vid
@Bat-Gos
@Bat-Gos 5 ай бұрын
Wally West vs Archie Sonic
@riugga9596
@riugga9596 4 ай бұрын
who would win meruem or gojo?
@Am-fp7pn
@Am-fp7pn 5 ай бұрын
interesting
@jackstreed5690
@jackstreed5690 4 ай бұрын
So he beats kumogawa?
@Krispyicecream9641
@Krispyicecream9641 5 ай бұрын
Yo can you collab with OfficialDivine?
@Numbers2133
@Numbers2133 5 ай бұрын
Okay....yeah....sure....whatever.....but.....Can He Beat Goku Tho? 🤔 I personally put Super Goku at Outerversal+ and Gt Goku at Outerversal+++ lowballed....because I said so. 🗿XD But for real tho, love your videos. Always be giving us banger after banger. It always keeps me motivated and inspired to improve my skills for my content. Can't wait to see more. 👍
@jschannel6319
@jschannel6319 5 ай бұрын
Happy to see GOATs supporting each other. Love your content, can’t wait for Broly.
@bol2nouille
@bol2nouille 5 ай бұрын
we are reaching matpat level of theorizing
@Aluja77
@Aluja77 4 ай бұрын
Bro where you at
@djb9267
@djb9267 2 ай бұрын
Isn't gt only a continuation of the anime? Would the statement, about goku being the strongest, even apply, considering the Image Shows manga goku? I don't think there is any Kind of evidence to say that gt goku is stronger than arale.
@Animefacts35
@Animefacts35 5 ай бұрын
Where do find dbz data books ?????
@amkai2928
@amkai2928 5 ай бұрын
You have to search deeply.
@Animefacts35
@Animefacts35 5 ай бұрын
@@amkai2928 you can’t just buy them
@themightofgeburah5882
@themightofgeburah5882 5 ай бұрын
Saying he beats Beerus and Whis is insane considering what Xenoverse and Heroes (things Akira Toriyama himself supervised) had to say about that. There’s also material stating he transcends everything. Beerus no diffed Arale so it’s irrelevant. Gogeta/Vegito in SS4 are the strongest characters in GT, Beerus did not view SS4 Gogeta as a threat in Xenoverse he just said “haha wow! That is an amazing power!” Meanwhile SS4 Gogeta is like “maybe I can defeat Lord Beerus now!”, remember… the strongest being in GT’s world is saying he can “maybe” defeat Beerus when Beerus is just entertaining the idea as a joke. You might be wondering why GT Gogeta knows Beerus right? It’s because BOG happened in GT’s timeline. Beerus is clearly way above anything in GT and that is not even accounting for his Ultra Ego power introduced in the Super manga. The intention is clearly for Dragon Ball Super characters to be above GT characters. This is not even considering the many statements of Resurrection F onwards to Super’s battles being stated to introduce power unprecedented in the series, have the worst possible threats and have the strongest enemies in DB History (and if I included statements such as having fights beyond imagination then that just solidifies it more).
@XxSpirothKurotamaMOONLIGHTxX
@XxSpirothKurotamaMOONLIGHTxX 4 ай бұрын
DUDE you people need to stop saying "AkiRa ToRiYaMa SAID" dude stop LYING.
@themightofgeburah5882
@themightofgeburah5882 4 ай бұрын
@@XxSpirothKurotamaMOONLIGHTxX so saying Toriyama supervised those materials is a lie? Please shut up before I destroy you.
@brendanjohnson8979
@brendanjohnson8979 Ай бұрын
@@XxSpirothKurotamaMOONLIGHTxXbro said he’d destroy you lol
@brendanjohnson8979
@brendanjohnson8979 Ай бұрын
Yo, so you do know that xenoverse and super heroes isn’t GT right? Thats not the actual GT goku, that’s a time patrol version of him who had ssj4, only it was toriyamas adaptation because he didn’t make GT, obviously since a lot of characters weren’t regressed in development and intelligence. Along with being consistent in not forgetting a lot of things
@Nice_Person7379
@Nice_Person7379 Ай бұрын
Fair logic. And i also believe BoG took place in the GT timeline. But you cant use xenoverse as a reliable power-scaling tool. For example, Kefla was taken aback by Z Broly’s power whilst Z Broly wasn’t scared of fighting her at all. Its also worth noting that dbs xenoverse goku is outerversal easily and heavily outscales his anime counterparts. I also think that when it comes to dbs characters being stronger than GT characters, id refer to the angels, grand priest and the inhabitants of Zeno’s kingdom rather than parts of the main dbs cast itself. Its also worth considering that Anime and manga beerus are leagues apart in terms of power. Anime Beerus has been surpassed by blue gogeta whereas manga beerus still towers above black frieza due to further retcons of his power level. And in my opinion, 4 gogeta would definitely beat dbs anime beerus.
@GooberGlumbus
@GooberGlumbus 5 ай бұрын
That last Toei statment definitely seems fake. Whats the source?
@ToasterXD
@ToasterXD 5 ай бұрын
It’s a Crunchyroll interview, it doesn’t have much bearing anyway because it’s not like it was stated by the actual writer of the Super Anime. It’s a babble statement just like the Koyama ones
@jafsjafs8820
@jafsjafs8820 3 ай бұрын
​@@ToasterXDso why are you using it for this video when you know it is fake?
@djn6962
@djn6962 2 ай бұрын
@@jafsjafs8820it’s not a fake statement. It was a real statement made in a real interview. Can you even read?
@jafsjafs8820
@jafsjafs8820 2 ай бұрын
@@djn6962 still not reliable and not canon kiddo. and the author never said about that.
@djn6962
@djn6962 2 ай бұрын
@@jafsjafs8820GT is in fact canon. Toei and Shueisha released an “official chronological timeline of events” with dates and everything, that included all the events of GT… Likewise, Takao Koyama, the lead script/screenplay writer for DBZ said that GT is the official continuation of Z, and that “ignoring it is not the answer.” So you, some random guy online can say it’s not canon, but all official sources say otherwise, and I believe the owners of the IP have more authority on that topic than you do, haha
@BudokaiMan-mr9tw
@BudokaiMan-mr9tw 4 ай бұрын
Actually ssjRyu already went into the whole gag thing several times and it was stated Super Goku is equal if not stronger then her, so he's already on the level of not stronger then GT Goku and the ten year time skip isn't even done.
@eugenekrabs2403
@eugenekrabs2403 5 ай бұрын
I'm going to be honest, that part where you read that paragraph talking about Super Saiyan 4 & how both God Ki user & Whis should be afraid of a Super Saiyan 4 user feels like a mega fan of the transformation broke into Toei's offices, wrote that statement, & posted with the employees deciding to keep it up for shits & gigs
@nicholashoward971
@nicholashoward971 5 ай бұрын
It does seem like that. Since in heroes it seems that ssj 4 is on par with ssj blue. plus we where never told the multipliers of 4, fp4, ufp4, lb4, god, blue, kkblue ,blue evolution, ui, mui, tui, ue, and more.
@roywempor8395
@roywempor8395 5 ай бұрын
​@@nicholashoward971 there's no multiplier anymore now in super it's just power wanking and every arc they're infinitely stronger and still lose all the time
@samburgerwithcheeze8145
@samburgerwithcheeze8145 5 ай бұрын
​@@roywempor8395There are multipliers it's just that they don't bother to try to make up one💀.
@gregkareem9824
@gregkareem9824 5 ай бұрын
Stop cursing its a sin
@GrogedUp
@GrogedUp 4 ай бұрын
@@gregkareem9824so is judging but here you are
@fffuuuyyyuuu4475
@fffuuuyyyuuu4475 5 ай бұрын
Unless you've got a link to the source, I recommend just cutting out that last fake interview cause fake scans aren't good for your channel's reputation i still hope it's actually real, tho
@Foreign885
@Foreign885 5 ай бұрын
It's funny how you can highball gt goku to above whis. Or 5D - Hyperversal. Good video, though.
@perminator218
@perminator218 5 ай бұрын
I agree I can get behind 5D whis But hyperversal? That is wank
@godslayer8894
@godslayer8894 5 ай бұрын
@@perminator218 I don't see any one in g t comparing too whis personally
@chocoburgersenpai1627
@chocoburgersenpai1627 Ай бұрын
Gt Goku is boundless. hypervesal is too weak
@Espurr.8
@Espurr.8 5 ай бұрын
I will always prefer gt over super
@ButrzV2
@ButrzV2 4 ай бұрын
Likewise.
@sumneshbohra5320
@sumneshbohra5320 5 ай бұрын
How about ssj4 gogeta?
@TheLegendarySaint
@TheLegendarySaint 5 ай бұрын
Who is the strongest Manga Z Goku or Anime Z Goku
@Kalom23
@Kalom23 5 ай бұрын
Anime by far
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow 5 ай бұрын
Base Anime Z Goku probably stomps SSJ3 Z Goku
@Kalom23
@Kalom23 5 ай бұрын
@@jocoolshow lmao anime krillin would slam manga goku an I'm not joking lmao He's way faster He's not as strong but can still kill him with a destructo disk, as it's not too big of difference
@user-ir3iq3pl3e
@user-ir3iq3pl3e 5 ай бұрын
Bro, it’s the same story, they would be equal in everything.
@gabrielmachado1247
@gabrielmachado1247 5 ай бұрын
​@@user-ir3iq3pl3efuck no,in the anime everything IS Wanked to Hell and Back,Namek Frieza would literally SLAM The Manga Cell Games
@Salt_shaking_it
@Salt_shaking_it 4 ай бұрын
Do how strong is beerus
@duanesanchez9461
@duanesanchez9461 4 ай бұрын
TOAST PWEASE DO ROCK LEE VS YUJIRO HANMA🙏🙏🙏
@duanesanchez9461
@duanesanchez9461 4 ай бұрын
I havent seen anyone else do it, and I think it might be a good matchup
@jullianpree6791
@jullianpree6791 5 ай бұрын
How the fuck are you talking about whis being scared of ss4 when whis hasnt even SEEN ss4. Gt came out almost three decades ago...Im calling straight up bullshit one this one dude.
@kwadwoasante3504
@kwadwoasante3504 5 ай бұрын
One shots???😂
@thelivingplague4725
@thelivingplague4725 3 ай бұрын
i want a bobobo-bo bo-bobo video
@platinumvoid1648
@platinumvoid1648 5 ай бұрын
Scale Ultra Vegito (fan manga)
@BronWatry758
@BronWatry758 4 ай бұрын
Gt is canon or retcon?
@Caydeeboi
@Caydeeboi Ай бұрын
The dragon ball canon goes like this: Dragon ball Minus Dragon ball manga Dragon ball super manga
@sardorqarshiyev434
@sardorqarshiyev434 5 ай бұрын
Can you make video about chainsawman vs gojo
@lordadz1615
@lordadz1615 4 ай бұрын
end of gt goku is broken
@mexicancj
@mexicancj 5 ай бұрын
Archie sonic vs xeno goku
@TheThirdJunior267
@TheThirdJunior267 5 ай бұрын
GT goku is boundless
@ravenairloft5861
@ravenairloft5861 5 ай бұрын
I think it's funny the only thing that can be compared to Goku is another Goku
@gramvy7653
@gramvy7653 2 ай бұрын
pls do alien x vs goku
@helpfulreaper7684
@helpfulreaper7684 5 ай бұрын
Hes not cooking
@xx_ironman77_xx1
@xx_ironman77_xx1 5 ай бұрын
Still think super goku is stronger because the feats beats statements like I saw all of gt and never saw goku fight that gag character 🤷🏽‍♂️ and the episodes she does show up in are filler and not canon to the manga like gt you want the answer well it was shown in dragon ball heroes super goku beat ssj4 limit breaker goku in a fight and if I am correct that’s a more powerful version of this gt goku
@NonAryanDuck
@NonAryanDuck 5 ай бұрын
So, GT Goku is basically hyperversal?
@j.i.k2.044
@j.i.k2.044 5 ай бұрын
Nope, if he was hyperversal he would one shot every villain in GT who are not hyperversal based on feats and this would be consistent in GT's story. If GT Goku is hyperversal this would be supported in the story, the same goes for DBS Goku.
@KingRycon
@KingRycon 4 ай бұрын
@@j.i.k2.044 In GT he became the strongest existence especially after merging with shenron, gaining omnipresence due to him being able to able and go anywhere and able to grant wishes, he also trained for a hundred years.
@KingRycon
@KingRycon 4 ай бұрын
@@j.i.k2.044 You seem to be unable to understand that if a strong character is facing threats than obviously those threats should be on the same scale.
@j.i.k2.044
@j.i.k2.044 3 ай бұрын
@@KingRycon Merging with Shenron might make him the strongest by GT standards but definitely not the strongest being in existence, Goku did not gain Omnipotence that's purely headcanon 😂😂
@j.i.k2.044
@j.i.k2.044 3 ай бұрын
@@KingRycon GT Goku as a SSJ4 could not defeat Omega Shenron who himself is barely universal, the GT perfect files also state that Syn Shenron is galaxy level at most
@jschannel6319
@jschannel6319 5 ай бұрын
For the longest time, I had the belief that BOG Goku beats SSJ4 Gogeta. Now, I’m not so sure, anymore.
@heartbreaker5079
@heartbreaker5079 3 ай бұрын
Strongest fire user in anime ... please
@thelonecyborg3555
@thelonecyborg3555 5 ай бұрын
Yeah them outerversal goku scales don't seem to crazy now does it lol
@wcom9999
@wcom9999 5 ай бұрын
Like we don't be saying that since years 🙃
@ToasterXD
@ToasterXD 5 ай бұрын
No, they still are. It’s just however high you can get Dr. Slump. It doesn’t really change anything about the cosmology at all which is my contentions that I’ve had and still have
@MattChuBoi755
@MattChuBoi755 5 ай бұрын
@@ToasterXDbut didn’t drip already debunk you on that whole thing anyway?
@PerSon-xg3zr
@PerSon-xg3zr 5 ай бұрын
​​@@MattChuBoi755 Drip's the same guy who tried to say DC is only 6D. He's far from credible.
@MattChuBoi755
@MattChuBoi755 5 ай бұрын
@@PerSon-xg3zr DC caps bruh. That’s no one’s fault
@lotz-o-muzic1608
@lotz-o-muzic1608 4 ай бұрын
Goku wished their tails back in Super
@tacoman4life123
@tacoman4life123 5 ай бұрын
but can he beat goku tho?
@PegasusTenma1
@PegasusTenma1 4 ай бұрын
EoGT Goku basically achieved what is known as the Nirvana state in Buddhism and a lot of eastern religion mythology. He basically ascends to a higher dimension or a higher level of consciousness. It is a similar concept to the 8th sense used in Masami Kurumada's canon Saint Seiya
@ZaBreaker
@ZaBreaker 5 ай бұрын
Yeah that arale scaling is and stretch tbh
@ty.shota23
@ty.shota23 4 ай бұрын
Gt goku when he became a kid did not get weaker he just had less stamina didnt have didnt have his full bag
@kendraparks8641
@kendraparks8641 10 күн бұрын
Idk if he is beating beerus and whis
@musahibrahim-zu1vh
@musahibrahim-zu1vh 4 ай бұрын
Bruh we don't know how strong the angels are
@CameronMatlock-zm9hp
@CameronMatlock-zm9hp 7 күн бұрын
End of dbz is after super meaning end of dbz Goku already has all supers transformations meaning end of dbz Goku is far more powerful than all supers transformations so that also mean is super saiyan 4 is stronger than all supers transforms too cause it’s after supers transformations so gt Goku aka end of dbz Goku can beat beerus and whis and everyone in super easily it also means omega shenron can beat beerus and whis too cause omega shenron gave end of dbz Goku aka gt Goku a hard fight
@suniksunil2623
@suniksunil2623 5 ай бұрын
That minsu engery ball feat is not crazy bec goku in sjj4 gulped a normal dragon ball hes is the pure heart saiyan so the minus energy neutralise with the plus energy powered by goku pure heart and the dragon ball he has eaten 😂
@-jOe_MAMA-
@-jOe_MAMA- 5 ай бұрын
Cant like makima solos the entire verse no sweat
@femitaiwo6118
@femitaiwo6118 5 ай бұрын
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