How Strong Is Dehya ACTUALLY? (5.0)

[@Juice-chan]

who would win, 1 billion dehyas, or 1 of every HSR character/lore characters included (e.g. IX)? come join my discord so we can LOOK ALIVE together discord.gg/KRtUFgApaJ then follow my twt pls i post when i'm alive twitter.com/JuiceChanYT btw follow my twitch www.twitch.tv/juicechanyt also, support me if you'd like; ko-fi.com/juicechanyt

[@Tempest27]

Dehya is Clara victim 💀

[@Pneuhmonia]

Uhhhhhhhhhh a billion dehyas is a lot of dehyas

[@maevethefox5912]

@@Pneuhmonia welt can summon a black hole....

[@FeixiaoLiao]

Bro 1 Dehya passive is already make her almost immortal, imagine a billion of them, she might tank the Amber Lord with ease

[@timtom9198]

If you choose 1 billion Dehya’s from having no Dehya’s. You would obtain 24,999,999,885 master starglitter (1 copy would give none, 6 would give 10, each subsequent copy giving 25) This is the equivalent of having 4,999,999,977 fates. Provided that you lose every 50/50 when pulling for a character, you would still get 31,249,999 limited banner characters. Suffice to say, not only would you be able to pull every Genshin character, but you would also get a C6 Dehya upfront!

[@KahlevN]

She got stronger just in time to get completely powercrept by Pyro Traveller and/or Archon probably.

[@sekaiomiruhitokaminoyume5426]

I mean even the old pyro archon doesn’t fit really well with Nathan characters… so you’re probably right

[@cqwiii]

its hard to imagine traveller power creeping anyone buuut HSR did just give the trailblazer a top tier path, so Ill hold on to hope 🙏

[@MegaDuke4life]

Her main ability is dmg reduction and anti interrupt. I doubt Traveler and Mauvika will have that as a main part of they kit

[@Juice-chan]

i mean, probably, but it’s moreso about being able to use a character you like if you want to use them dehya lovers were done so dirty before

[@daichei6882]

@@cqwiii Dendro Traveler power crept Collei even tho they released the same day- and they're pretty even tbf, but I think DMC has an edge on her

[@TheJH1015]

seriously, they could just have put in an extra mechanic that gave her an additional burst damage multiplier depending on how much HP she has mitigated from the team. It would also promote a more risky playstyle with your other characters because getting hurt=stronger Dehya damage.

[@salceds]

They did but it's called Vourukasha's Glow 😭😭😭

[@Sigmaking9421]

As a Dehya main I appreciate this video

[@rosies69]

Didnt know they exist. Cool ❤

[@lamontehughes7318]

Dehya main here, love the attention she's been getting lately. I have so many dedicated dehya showcases😅

[@Juice-chan]

❤️ happy to have delivered to the dehya lovers!

[@thearchivist250]

Thanks for the kind and fair words about my girl. Emilie works so well with Dehya

[@romanov6420]

same brother same 💖

[@snoyuu046]

Dehya actually feels pretty good to play in a raiden chevreuse overload team

[@shadowwalker4633]

Xiangling can hit 50k there so there is no point to be honest rotations with xiangling are easier and you can stay more on field with raiden to fill energy

[@reyesle6709]

@@shadowwalker4633key words here: *feels good.*

[@kuurliirhra5808]

@@shadowwalker4633 and how Xiangling can hit 50k withiout nuke tricks? Dehya C0 and Xiangling C6 have similar damage. And spesifikly in Raiden team Dehya short onfield ult not a problem, so she work as DPS and support.

[@bruhhh2660]

​@@kuurliirhra5808similar damage🤣.Really?.Maybe dehya with a hypercarry can reach the damage of what xiangling does off field

[@eugenePerryMB]

I almost never play dehya or the shogun without each other. I can practically just swap between their bursts with just enough cool down to throw in a double kujou buff (and I'malso using chevreuse as my fourth). It's just fun, fk it if it's not "meta" or whatever, or isn't the most damage possible.

[@mehedi8331]

She is the best pyro companion for kinich right now

[@keikeikeis]

one can argue bennett but i rather use Kinich Yelan dehya yaoyao over bennett / emilie. the overall team dps is higher thanks to burgeon. and dehya allowing yelan to vape her E skills (free extra 60k dmg per hit) It's also much MUCH more comfortable to play since it's not circle impact. Kinich will do less personal dmg though! about 50k less per cannon but dehya does 80~100k burgeon and yelan does yelan dmg.

[@Pupsknoten]

Ahem Ahem Bennett Ahem Ahem….

[@SS_Tier]

I had her C6R1 since her banner. Because i love her design and gameplay and she's basically my main. But i still won't forgive Hoyo for what they did to her and to Candace.

[@SirZelean]

EDIT: Thanks for the replies, guys. It makes sense now. I don't get why people keep recommending Cinder City as this amazing set even for non-Natlan characters. That buffs like.. just 12% elemental damage. There are so many ways you can get so much more than that o.o Kazuha can give the team a 40% elemental DMG bonus with 100% uptime, and Furina can buff elemental DMG by up to 75%. Damn, a goblet gives up to 46.6%. What even is 12%? Am I missing something?

[@stinkmeister3]

It works on hp scaling characters.

[@Norio_sensei]

12% dmg is better than 0% basically The other supportive set are noblesse which is limited to atk%, instructor which lower stats a lot, and archaic petra / VV limited to geo/anemo

[@Modie]

I also feel that people are overestimating that set greatly. Yes, it's better than nothing I guess, but for non-Natlan characters, it's only good if it can at least buff two DPS characters in the team (like Furina and Xiao in a Xiao premium team). Furthermore, people seem to forget that you have to actively make that reaction. Please tell me how you can constantly proc melt hits by Dehya in a burn-melt Ganyu team. You can't. Same with burn-vape Mualani. You have to set that one up beforehand in every rotation which is possible, but will reduce time (especially in the burn-melt case).

[@backpackpepelon3867]

They just hyping it up to justify grinding for it imo.

[@SirZelean]

@@backpackpepelon3867 nah. Doesn't make sense. If that was so, it would have happened before. Instead, when an artifact set was bad or just "ok", no one recommended farming. It doesn't make sense start doing fake hype now.

[@MrTMan0071]

I see Dehya, I like. She's been through a lot but her and Wriothesley are my favourite as they cant die (more after C1). Can't wait to give her Mauvika's sword.

[@earlsmith6722]

I am embarrassed to say that I listened to the haters when Dehya came out. I got her with the update and love running her with Emily. But thanks for the team suggestions! 😊

[@Tempest27]

We just coping let be honest we all gonna throw her as soon Mavuika release

[@Juice-chan]

fair enough lmao, but she’s aight for now

[@NTR-Impact]

No, I'm not a bandwagon kind of player. I pulled Dehya C2 on her release btw.

[@renatomarelli4199]

@@NTR-Impact I got to C2 with the selector last patch

[@amandaslough125]

You say that like I don't intend to play them together.

[@vincentdreemurr]

bro thinks hes him

[@sky.island]

the fact that people are still making videos about "the worst character in Genshin" only shows how hard HYV dropped the ball with Dehya. I'm almost certain they took away a feature where the DMG she absorbs grants an additional DMG bonus bc it just makes too much sense for her kit

[@reyesle6709]

It would certainly justify the fact that she ascends with HP% among any other stat. Redmane’s blood accumulates damage with a maximum of 200% of her hp, which would translate to even higher damage if this feature was actually a thing

[@sky.island]

@@reyesle6709 I can feel it in my bones that that was the intended gameplay design for Dehya. and no coincidence that she's one of the last characters released before the Fontaine lineup. whatever the reason is, HYV flopped so hard with her

[@NendouHoudan]

No, its just that stupid ppl wanted a main DPS, and they got a defensive off fild pyro aplicator. Its like making main DPS zhongli, ppl just need to read the kit and stop tryng to replace hu tao PD: her dmg increase in C1 was on porpouse, dont be that dumb that you dont get that easy point

[@backpackpepelon3867]

Xilonen gonna break the dark skin curse in genshin. Tho many CN players are crying for nerf because they dont want her to be the best geo character for whatever reason.

[@arielalmada1606]

​@@NendouHoudan Dehya is not use as aplicator,is not use as anything, thats the thing,is not that we got a character with a role different of what we think,is just that we got a useless character

[@Doppey24]

From someone that loved her in the sumero story quest, seeing her get better every nation is truly satisfying

[@fernandoflores8449]

Now that you mention the rise in thoma's popularity i think he deserves a video too. From been a not really needed pyro shielder that competes with c4 yanfei for that spot, to a decent (only "good" option) in burgeon. And finally back to being a good shieldet for burning, and overload teams

[@s1imosha]

idk why so many people think he is only good in burgeon, I like to play him with my Wanderer hypercarry and Arlecchino (yeah I don't want to use Bennet with them).

[@trickmonster7905]

Got her c1 when pulling for Kinich and honestly… I was SOOO happy to loose my 5050 I beat spyral abyss with the c1 Dehya in a HYPERCARRY Team. (Dehya c1, Furina, Kazuha, Bennett) I will say Dehya has MAJOR ER issues even on emblem and ER sands (which I used), so I heavily recommend giving Bennett a sac sword and furina a Fav

[@maevethefox5912]

c4 is such a blessing

[@trickmonster7905]

@@maevethefox5912 I’ll have it in 3 years prodived they dont add any new standard units i want :3

[@camiloceen]

That's the team i use as well but with Furina and Bennet with Fav.

[@kraylis1]

I’m sorry you used dehya with emblem lmfao. This is not a good set for her

[@trickmonster7905]

@@kraylis1 when you make a burst dps then yes it is lol 😂

[@Not-a-bot301]

Dehya working well with the natlan characters makes you really wonder if pyro archon is really going to be dehya pro max

[@kuurliirhra5808]

If Mavuika have 20 sec rotation and similar 6 sec onfield, they can work together. Copium, but what else left?

[@jimmyg558]

I really like her character's personality, design, voicing, and backstory. She's probably one of the better written characters in the game. I've been having fun with her again since Emilie's release, but if the leaks were to be true, Mavuika's release might invalidate Dehya once more. She's far from the only character that quite frankly needs adjustments imo. Qiqi, Xinyan, Dori, Amber, Albedo, Traveler variants(Electro & Hydro), and bloody Aloy. I get why Hoyo's trying not to buff characters, but adjustments don't have to equate buffing. Also, Albedo's a limited banner 5* ffs.

[@iamgats9216]

Been playing Dehya since her release and will continue to play her even after Mavuika's banner.

[@SpeechlessWolf]

Personally using her in Overload comp with Arle, Yae and Chevy as a damage mitigator and some off field Pyro procs, I want to see what Mavuika will bring to the table, and if a Natlan Electro can replace Yae~

[@maevethefox5912]

I swear if Yae gets powercrept by cubone toddler I'll rage xD

[@Doppey24]

Get ready to cry about it​@@maevethefox5912

[@boshlovely2002]

@@maevethefox5912I mean you’d still have Yae, it’s just Iansan would be better Not to mention Yae isn’t hard to powercreep, her kit is slow and clunky so anyone who can apply electro like her but less wonky will be better

[@santabakure6264]

Actually sounds really good Arle will get so much damage mitigation that you won’t even need a proper shielder for this team

[@santabakure6264]

@@boshlovely2002yae is aggravate dps with sub-dps utilities She’s out for the dendro, not other reactions

[@sylvarogre5469]

My history with Dehya. I pulled for her & her weapon despite poor reviews(c0r1). Then I lost my 50/50 and got Dehya instead of Clorinde(c1r1). I picked Dehya for free 5* (c2r1). I got garaunteed Mualani followed by an early 5*, but it wasn't Kinich... Dehya (c3,r1). Literally my highest c level 5*. So I need as much help as I can get making her as strong is possible.

[@n.s.3609]

I actually have been using her with Neuvillette since his first banner. She feels really good to play with Kinich :D Tbh I don't even have Xianglin built; her story at the beginning of GI annoyed me a lot and I don't like playing characters I dislike.

[@Fenrir-Afri]

Im a typical hypercarry Nuevillette (Kazuha, Baizhu, Neuv, Furina) enjoyer but lately, I just love using Dehya with Neuv (Nahida, Dehya, Neuv, Raiden). The setup is faster thus making the clear time very fast as well.

[@basketcasecorey122]

im suprized you didnt cover overload with chevuse but over all very nice love the video!

[@ZephyrVersion3]

Recently came back to genshin and saw my active team as Dehya, nahida, Chongyun, Shenhe. Cryo Dehya works surprisingly well for burn melt

[@mohmedabdo4681]

Couldn't agree more, i picked her up from the 5★ selector and build her with 4p instructor, its so good on her because 120EM shouldn't be that easy to use . I use her in some Clorinde overload teams considering i got my first Chevriuse this banner, and she matches so well with Clorinde's uptime

[@canaldecasta]

Wish her ult was more interesting mechanically...

[@royalnickle]

“Her kit” was more interesting mechanically

[@anshnanavati]

Mechanically it's awesome, I just wish it felt like she was actually punching the enemies rather than gently caressing them

[@canaldecasta]

​​@@anshnanavatiHow so? Big ICD, no normal/charged attack synergy, locked into the ramping animation without means to speed it more or use the stomp earlier, and as you say low poise damage. As Juice mentioned, her burst is pretty straightforward and wish it had more to offer.

[@stoesniper]

@@canaldecasta you can use normal attacks or E to speed up (faster attacks ) in her burst

[@Toqrainbow]

agree agree. wish her whole power budget went into the support role but oh well.

[@NEVIXIA]

As a mobile player, she made the game easy to play because she can heal on her own. She made it easy to learn the game when I got her during her banner. Equipped with “The Bell” weapon gives her a very strong shield to increase her damage interruption resistance. I still use her as my main and have her at C5 can’t wait to get her C6 🤩 She’s also great for AFK mode lol

[@nico576]

she got stronger but i wouldnt be surprised if Mavuika completely buries her

[@exia7684]

I mean.. she's an Archon, of course she'll stomp the desert-dwelling mercenary :(

[@hypertemper_]

I am just tired of playing with Bennett and that cook

[@MrBennie2069]

That's cool! I've got her at C2 but never leveled her past like 50 because of the bad press! I'm try her out now.

[@frostbyte7469]

Dehya is my current pyro off field for my Mualani team because I just can't use Xiangling to reliably apply pyro when her burst needs tons of energy. With Dehya I just use Sacrificial Greatsword and not even use her burst, still farming for better Instructor or Cinder City set.

[@NendouHoudan]

And i dont think thats gonna change, mualani without the interrump resis feels weird. Mavuika will do a lot more of DMG and extra stuff, but i doubt she will have that interrump res

[@frostbyte7469]

@@NendouHoudan I want Emilie for her team, currently my Team for Mualani is her with Dehya, Baizhu, and Kazuha.

[@Teebteeb_]

everyone : playing dehya depending of team and damage or skill utility me : playing dehya because i want her to step on me

[@randyjr.arsenio5624]

My Dehya is just part of my Neuvilette team. Providing that extra poise and damage absorption give neuv free reign to fire off CAs.

[@Kaitsuga]

another team where she can work quite well is an overload comp with raiden and chev, personally I play them along with xl, so that everyone buffs the team one way or another Raiden c1r1, Chev c6 with dialogues r5 and scroll, Dehya c3 with wgs r3 and totm(fully dps tho 65/164 crit) and Xl c6 with SS r3 and I picked xl as last slot due to her pyro dmg bonus with is pretty nice for dehya's own dmg rotation wise would be, at least for me, Raiden E > Chev Hold EQ > Dehya EE > XL EQ > Dehya QE10 > Raiden QN15(cause I suck at doing proper strings) pretty comfy team with pretty decent dmg output, started playing it with raiden c0, chev c2 and dehya c2 and still worked like a charm and both raiden and dehya's burst duration match pretty well for their downtimes, whole rotation tho is still around 23 secs kek

[@marcelosandoval8719]

Honestly I like how Genshin designs the characters In the fact 99% of them bring something unique to the table The only problem is that something unique might not be useful Look how Qiqi is the best healer in the game But no team requires that much healing So she is useless UNTIL They release a team that can make good use of that big healing

[@bacongl]

Arlecchino is everything I wanted poor Dehya to be. I am still SUPER salty about how they did my girl dirty. She isnt absolute garbage like she once was on release, but she is still sub par and outclassed by most Pyro units. I fully expect Mavuika to completely bury Dehya when she comes out.

[@reyesle6709]

In solidarity, there is one attribute that Dehya possesses that pretty much all other Pyro units don’t: unconditional pyro application. Sure, Xiangling applies pyro much faster, but it’s still locked behind her burst which has a hefty energy cost, and building purely for the application wastes a lot of Xiangling’s own damage potential. Dehya’s pyro application, however, is tied to her skill, which doesn’t have an energy cost; she can go full Zhongli and just straight up be an applicator bot. I 100% expect Mauvika to have Klee-levels of off-field pyro app upon her release, but Dehya right now provides some very valuable utility that literally no other pyro unit can replicate as easily

[@Yelan-n8d]

@@reyesle6709wish her application was 1.5s instead of 2.5s. I use mualani, c2 dehya, nahida, zhongli and sometimes i create bloom cores instead of vape because of dehya’s extremely slow pyro application.

[@alexander2019.]

Ah as a Deyha player since the beginning ive been using a handful teams. Overload team with Chevy has been my favorite. (Chevy,Deyha,Yae,bennett) Great damage and synergy(Everyone but yae can heal themselves or others).A silly melt team with Rosaria,Deyha,Layla and Bennett called Deyh and night (Rosaria and Dehya both have a running passive of opposite times of the day. Vape team with Furina,Deyha,Kokomi,Bennett which is pretty good and reliable application. My newfound boss killing team is Nahida,Deyha,Furina,Kokomi for a mix of vape and burgeon which was very helpful for the 3 fatui local legends. (Ignore meta, strive for creativity)

[@alexander2019.]

Ive gotten a bunch of Deyhas recently from lost 50/50s. C1 is great for making her more of a dps and a better tank. C2 allows for better uptime of her field and the condition that she needs to take damage to trigger will still work if you get hit while a shield is active.Also if you get hit with a burgeon core you'll take damage and guarantee the next skill hit to do more damage. C4 Is really with Furina and better battery and sustain and its when vourkashas glow becomes better but emblem is still nice.

[@reyesle6709]

Let me try some: Neuvi-Dehya dual carry: Neuvillette, Furina, Charlotte, Dehya. Dehya’s pyro app will trigger some vaporizes alongside Furina to help stack Neuvi’s passive, and Furina and Charlotte (both with Favonius to address the team’s energy needs) will help Dehya trigger some vapes or melts while she’s on field. Neuvi Burnvape: Neuvillette, Dehya, Venti, Emilie. Again, Neuvi will be dealing the brunt of the damage, but Venti’s pyro infusion on his burst will restore a chunk of energy for Dehya once it ends, allowing her to go ham on field while Emilie also provides supplementary damage alongside her. Hybrid Burgeon: Dehya, Furina (Khaj-Nisut), Siegwinne (Elegy), Nahida. The two hydro units provide enough hydro app to generate bloom cores while Dehya can be on-field as a driver to benefit from all the EM buffs from the entire team. Sumeru Burgeon: Candace, Dehya, Nilou, Nahida. Candace’s hydro infusion and C6 plus Nilou’s ring will apply hydro while constantly swapping between characters; this application is slow enough that cores won’t be overproduced (issue is of course lacking a healer, but the goal is to maintain a national team). Sayu Burn-geon: Sayu, Dehya, Furina, Emilie/Nahida. The choice of Dendro unit depends on whether or not you want more core generation or more non-transformation reaction damage. Either way, Sayu rolling around Pyro-infused will create a mix of burgeon damage and burnvape from Furina while also serving as the team healer. Being able to hold VV allows Dehya to take advantage of the res shred while also Furina’s DMG buff.

[@leendzhenna1133]

(Chevy,Deyha,Yae,bennett) i also use this set up but i switch Yae with Raiden

[@NanoReyson]

Dehya was usable on release its just the community got her wrong. Even prior to Furina, or Emilie or Natlan Dehya overburn was a crazy good team (Dehya, Kazuha, Nahida, Kuki). Dehya was made to work around her skill not her burst (go back to her Collected Miscellany intro video at the 5:30 mark and you'll see). Her kit and weapon and even her artifact set is about her akill. Unfortunately because the community wanted another pyro DPS, and lets face it, content creators told them thats what she was, she was hated on because she was a bad DPS. Meanwhile, ive been enjoying her as my off field pyro driver since release and now that i have C4 i can play her as my main dps with Furina, Emilie and Xilonen

[@griffinfaw5697]

I caught myself a C1 for Dehya as my selected 5 star, and then I got her C2, so I've been happy building her. She's getting to be very strong

[@stu3yy_]

She was never bad, just very constellation dependant. Been maining her since her initial release and have C6 now, so I've seen and heard it all by now lol. Her only real problems ever have been that C1-2 should arguably have been built into her kit, and her burst should have been a state where NA is infused with pyro.

[@FlareBattle]

Keeps my Lyney alive. Works well enough.

[@BlueHenning]

Who is Xiangling? Who is Bennett?....ahhhhhhhh there at the end of the Bench! Nearly forgot about those

[@anemojin4384]

Wriothesley Burn Melt with Dehya is soooo good

[@TheBearThatReads]

Burgeon Dehya my beloved. Thank you for making a mention of sac claymore great weapon choice imo.

[@bleachi1]

i got her during her banner in sumeru but i have been using her constantly since Natlan’s release. She’s sooo fun

[@alexander2019.]

10:22 Yeah thats why this community sucks. Its an echo chamber of slobbering on the same few characters "if its not kazhua or hu tao its not a must pull. This character is useless because we don't need healers, every other shielder is a waste of resources when you already have Zhongli. Barbara and Kokomi is trash because they can freeze themselves then go on to glaze Xingqiu. Tell me who to pull for." Idk if gatcha players cannot think for themselves or then just like being spoonfed information because they don't want to think too hard.

[@joelazaro461]

There will come a day when I have strong enough buffers and Dehya constellations to make me want to play her on-field and use her ult to do big damage. She’s at least getting more use now than my c5 Qiqi!

[@BAM.33]

Deyha is great. I pulled for her on her initial banner and used my free selector for her c2. She's always been useful people just wanted to call her terrible sooooooo bad. Y'all are sad. Try to have fun sometimes lmao

[@mushokueien8148]

That Dehya in the beginning hit like flashbang grenade

[@enixfire]

I think the thing that I like about Dehya vs Xiangling and Thoma is that her pyro application is tied to her skill. I hate not having not enough energy for overworld and domains when having Xiangling and Thoma in the team. I have her with Sac and it never feels like I don't have pyro app when I need it :)

[@wangusbeef86]

I did the hard way and learned to do art and live2d from 0. Took me 6 months but at least I didn't spend a dime lol

[@sekaiomiruhitokaminoyume5426]

1: 30 - 37 …. Long range pyronado you can what ? For days ? You can what ? 😂😂 the pyronado don’t even touch the enemy 😂😂… I’m dead 😂😂😂😂

[@Myrtus123]

a friend of mine stated playing genshin yesterday and when she could pick a standard character I sugested her Jean or Tighnari because I forgot Dehya got buffed when I got to pick I picked Dehya because I literally had a crush on her in Sumeru she picked Jean even though she wanted Dehya I guess she'll have to try pulling for her😜😜😜😜

[@renatomarelli4199]

Emilie, Dehya, Baizhu, Furina is my main team right now.

[@Astryd4LF]

Imo, dehya, to make her kit make more sense, they could have given infusion and hp scaling normals in her skill, it woukd have been enough

[@muhammadalaaabulila6060]

u forgot to mention overload team with chev

[@AzureAetherYT]

Shes the best shes every been and even then I would say shes at best a sidegrade. Glad shes finally worth considering but it feels like its still small victories for her because the bar was set so low.

[@damianellnoir9318]

Dehya is exactly what you think of Raiden but you wouldn't say it Juice or would you

[@kmekosnk840]

we back with the fsg titles lets goo!

[@Zenbu711]

sometimes xianglings ult doesnt hit while doing E with kinich tbh tho its once in a blue moon

[@azi729]

that happened on 1:37

[@usmanya5110]

I love dehya and use her alot but yeah.... I'm not gonna beat around say she's good, she just has more use cases now and but it's still the same old oddly designed kit. She has her pros though Being able Sac, trigger ToTM and unconditional app while also not needing any er are very nice qualities especially for non NA based users such as Neuvillette, Lyney and ganyu. And her slow pyro app makes her good for mualani burnvape and with chevreuse teams being able make full use of her entire kit. But i still can't understand why hoyo made such a mess of a unit. I men her burst makes no sense for a defensive unit and it even takes away Leonine bit for some reason. Her pyro app is kinda wonky and this could lead to inconsistencies. She has the benefit of no er but the really slow app really irks and this makes some burgeons inconsistent due to icd and using her burst means she's just as er hungry as the rest and probably even worse than some since her particle generation is very inconsistent(at least it's better than XLs though.). her defensive utility is also odd especially if she's gonna be played as the only defensive option on the team. I mean the downtime is pretty long and it's only 50%, You're still taking damage, It's just that dehya takes half of the damage herself. Now what about a healer? Well if that's the case then why use dehya in the first place. And let's not forget how short her ir is? My god why did they put that in her passive instead of her e duration. I don't like to say this but HSR also has a dehya except this one is done right. Fu Xuan anybody? Since she provides not just mitigation but also some debuff control, some healing and some nice team buffs.

[@GioShotThat]

So I’m genuinely curious about this just to give some context, I come from looter shooters and MMORPGs. While I’m not new to gacha games, I’m not exactly an expert either. Take a unit like Dehya, for example-why can’t Hoyo just buff her directly instead of indirectly? I mean, instead of releasing new artifacts or units to compliment her, why don’t they just go into the code and adjust (buff) her numbers, like they did with Zhongli four years ago when he was underwhelming at release? This applies to several other units as well.

[@RwnEsper]

Dehya, Emilie, Kuzuha, Mualani is honestly kind of cracked.

[@Sheerwinter]

I heard u calling urself zeus? 😂 🗿 Father i have returned. -kratos

[@THESocialJusticeWarrior]

6:44 Yeap. I skipped ALL Sumeru characters for her. I was so disappointed I almost quit.

[@Juice-chan]

sadly, a lot of people literally DID quit :( this should have been disclosed way sooner

[@marupurusaivamsi4802]

She loves me . I have c4 dehya from loosing 5050 .as f2p . The pain but sweet pain i guess 😂.💀

[@TaoRodBRodel]

I just keep getting sad stories with her, i'm usually a meta-type gamer, but i usually go for the characters i like, but i go a bit for meta still.. anyways, i pulled for her when she got her banner, KNOWING she would be on standard, but i really liked he design, didnt get her XD, so when we got the free 5 stars it was obvious i went to get her... However i wanted to use her as a DPS, which became kind of hard and well, seems weird, ngl, as a support or subdps she feels better for me, i love her ULT and i think it's a waste the low damage it makes for such gameplay, but oh well... I like her a lot, she is sooo cool to play.. i went Vourukasha's Glow's path BUT i might switch her to this new set, maybe, my gfriend also got her finally and she'll be trying Millelith's path to compare, hopefully i can give her some justice... but yeah, it's a sad story with her all the time, still one of my favorite characters, i hate the treatment they gave her, but she will get justice, REAL justice someday

[@lorykyo5600]

Dehya is good in Wrio reverse melt teams

[@samibell888]

I love dehya in mualani and emilie team, i also have sigewinne as the 4th character, i dunno i really like characters that deserve more love. in this team sigewinne gives Hydro resonance for herself dehya and mualani, sigewinne also buff off field skills of emilie and dehya so i really think this team is quite great. this will be my default Mualani team until i get xilonen and well..... replace sigewinne with her

[@joshuaottley7902]

Great... now for them to FINALLY fix Qiqi.

[@keikeikeis]

cinder city seems kinda weird on her since u lose that 28% dmg bonus (she aint no natlan). I've tried, 4pc flame witch, 4pc paradise lost, 4pc tenecity. the dmg gain from tencity wasn't that fantastic, only added about 10k more dmg per cannon on kinich. paradise and flame witch gave dehya 15k and 20k more burgeon dmg x2 so 30k-40k(2 seed). so realistically, jacking up her EM does more overall team dmg. not including burn dmg, periodic vape damage. Honestly though, no one does what she does. Interuption resistence is god sent for neuv and kinich. while also reducing their dmg taken to stay on field longer. burgeon gave her off-field 80~100k burst dmgs every 2.5 seconds. it enabled ez vapes for neuv, yelan, nilou etc... ez pyro swirls jacking up even more dmg. She made that rainslasher and power saw very usable (i will argue that power saw is one of her BEST WEAPONS 50%hp+ 240EM R5? HELL YES). I'm sorry but somehow i like dehya way more than i like xiangling. She is one of my favourite characters. Can't wait for c2. very glad i build her :D

[@chet_irl]

10:04 “greg is a pretty neat spread unit” WHO IS GREG I DID NOT PULL ON THE GREG BANNER

[@cqwiii]

7:17 "she was literally one of the worst characters in the game.. on her release patch" Maybe you could soften the language a bit, there could be some Sigewinne havers in the chat. Its a bit soon 😬

[@Juice-chan]

? i said on her release, dehya is aight now

[@cqwiii]

sorry, I wrote that poorly I meant to imply Sigewinne was also bad on release, so hearing that phrase probably causes Sigewinne havers to have 4.7 ptsd flashbacks 😁

[@slorenz5626]

​@@Juice-chan well qiqi exist 😂 . Dehya never was that bad a lot of the like people clean abyss with her on realize

[@cqwiii]

I can def understand why Dehya wanters were disappointed though Shes such a badass character, she deserved to be the Arlecchino of her time at least for a little while

[@boshlovely2002]

⁠@@cqwiiiSigewinne isn’t terrible per se, it’s just she’s a hydro QiQi which is to say all she does is heal which is fine but when other healers offer dmg and buffs, it’s like why would I pick the healer that only heals Dehya on the other hand was comparable to Xinyan in terms of main dps and her support couldn’t even make her comparable to Xianglin and she has to compete with Thoma for burgeon (and mind you this is a 5 star) so she quite literally had nothing going for her other than people liking her enough to force her to work But for sure Sigewinne probably has it worse overall because she doesn’t have a strong fanbase and Dehya has definitely had a little of a revival where as I can’t see that happening for Sigewinne unless a very healer centric meta comes up( something targeted towards single target healers because multi target will always be chosen thanks to synergy with Furina)

[@kuurliirhra5808]

IDK not only Furina change situation. Chevreuse, Dehya, Raiden team look most strong for me now. There Dehya use all her kit, and not just some replacement.

[@pitypotato1151]

Ngl, I might skip the pyro archon if she power creeps dehya cause I really like how her kit feels for my mulani and I don't want to have to build a new character with (probally) diffrent scaling, artifacts, weapons, and such

[@sofabored2150]

I hope I get her weapon next chronicle. Otherwise I'll have to go for Itto's.

[@jajathenewking6131]

It's also really funny that both fake cat girls waited 2 version updates to get buffed, 3.0 for Keqing and 5.0 for Dehya.

[@dear_totheheart]

For how supposedly popular Dehya was and they purposefully made her bad...and decided to surprisingly enhance her years later...gives me hope for Kaveh, who far exceeds her in popularity and love! We can dream! Oh Juice, also, would you consider making updated videos like this for the Standard characters? For instance and I'm being biased, I would really love to see an updated video on Mona and her abilities/synergies/etc post Natlan. It would be great to have this for other characters too of course but just like Dehya, I feel like Mona is also an often forgotten/overshadowed Standard 5* that might also have more potential/use than people give her credit for - or I'd like to believe so! Thanks for thinking of possibly adding it to your line up!

[@Juice-chan]

i would actually LOVE to see kaveh get good. i absolutely love the character, & it makes me very sad that he’s an active downgrade in his supposed ‘best teams’ also, sure! i’ll look into mona & see what i can cook :) i’m quite partial to mona as a character (like, voice lore story etc)

[@Kaitsuga]

for example mona's sinergy with mualani

[@dear_totheheart]

@@Juice-chan Exactly, like you said in this video, each character should have a use and be usable, not intentionally garbage and borderline pointless or a detriment to play. So happy for Dehya lovers at least and even if highly unlikely, it gives me a shred of hope for Kaveh! That'll be so awesome, really appreciate it! Mona was the only 5S* I didn't have and so I finally decided to pull her instead of potentially better options and I just love her design and she seems unique to play and I'd love to see what I can do with her given the new Natlan shakeups. Looking forward to it!

[@dear_totheheart]

@@Kaitsuga Thanks for the suggestion, if only I liked her enough/ever intended to pull for Maulani! Like her personality but her gamestyle isn't for me Still, due to Maulani's popularity, if Mona vibes with her, I'll take it so maybe others will come to appreciate Mona more or give her a chance :)

[@boshlovely2002]

I’m ngl Kaveh did not have the hype that Dehya had at all, he has a very vocal fanbase but it’s comparatively less than Dehya. Granted that has changed as a lot of Dehya’s fanbase quit the game after her debut because I would too if my favorite released in such a lacking state Also another reason that’s unlikely to happen for Kaveh is that he’s a main dps, 4 star supports can always get big updates with new interactions(Kuki and dendro) but a unique playstyle tied to a 4 star is far less likely to get that same effect This isn’t to knock on Kaveh, just saying it’s so incredibly unlikely a good example is someone like Razor who only got a boost in dmg because dendro came out and unless something changes for Dendro fundamentally Kaveh isn’t likely to get improvements

[@thecatwithoutatail5420]

I'm so mad I didn't choose her as my free five star

[@CrytecNBOMB]

Towards the end of the video seeing maguu kenki move that much is *cringe* to see as I've never seen him move so many times like that

[@Juice-chan]

they updated his AI, the old wall trick doesn’t work anymore :/ so frustrating

[@schlafesbruder7625]

I play Dehya for some time now and I like her a lot. Her damage mitigation helps to keep Miko alive. That's important because of my skill issues :-) And thanks to Chevreuse the team is still very strong.

[@zukodude487987]

My Dehya his easy 40-50k

[@wansper9297]

Honestly for mualani burnvape I would recommend instructor or deepwood on dehya instead of cinder city

[@mothernature521]

As a mono Pyro Dehya clearing every abyss at 36 stars I approve of this video. Dehya is the queen!

[@Juice-chan]

LOOK ALIVE! GLOVES OFF!

[@Ethonra]

That was fast! Thanks! Technically not the "DON'T Build Deyha WRONG!" guide (still looking forward to that), but will always appreciate new Deyha videos. 🔥🦁

[@kleber8793]

I hope she doesn’t get too much powercrept by mavuika 😭😭

[@AmirPrinceling]

My Dehya is C3 now and I enjoy using her more and more. Furina did so much for her, but as a support she's really good as well, C2 makes her a really solid Sub-DPS and she just is a comfy option for my Lyney.

[@denvermercader5952]

Im so stupid bro didn't know that dehya is so good with kinich rn bc i am so angry that i lost to 50/50 in kinich I didn't know that she was a meta support

[@denvermercader5952]

Im so dumb bro ihave furina too thats why i am struggling with my keqing damage ineed to lvlup and focus on my dehy too

[@ChaseGynko]

Totally unrelated to this video, but do you think existing cryo units will get some form of rework with cryo resonance or how freeze affects enemies in general when Snezhnaya comes? Cryo is my favorite element and it hurts that it's not in a good spot right now. I finally felt like leveling up my Ayaka and investing in her. But not sure if she'll be able to clear Abyss.

[@st-6837]

I only used her to make me feel like i didn't waste my primo gems pulling for raiden and got her(although still get raiden in the end but she's c0)

[@god_kurama]

I am gonna build my dehya for my future main nev

[@ayonhussainforever9390]

I have C4 Dehya Now My First C4 5 ⭐ 😂 Of course Mine is Meta

[@ayonhussainforever9390]

Just couple of minutes ago Used My Dehya on Imaginerium theatre (pardon my spelling) she's not bad in her Burst

[@HadouGun]

Magu being a dick at the end.

[@itzBoath]

I just use her for her off field pyro application but dps wise it’s a hard no for me

[@monisharikatla4596]

I just got c5 dehya as f2p one more con to go hope on standard banner

[@jaredtew3302]

im using a team of dehya kinich emilie and bennett and its doing wonderful

[@treeleven3316]

Been using her to farm the new domain since burning makes the domain die in like sub 30 seconds.

[@someoneinasia]

dehya ganyu melt team just take too long to set up the rotation and the damage isn't worth it.

[@piggletimpact]

Wahoo dehya tme

[@Juice-chan]

yippeeeeeee

[@harshil9270]

My dehya still unbuilt at lvl 60 because I’m still farming for old 4 stars I haven’t built like faruzan or Yao Yao or Kuki or even Jean which is only 70