Gotta respect that his strength came from literally just working out and reading books him and bane would get along well at the gym.
@jamesmilford605111 ай бұрын
Kingpin vs bane that would be a awesome idea
@Zurround3 ай бұрын
@@jamesmilford6051 My money is on Bane because of those insane steroids and I believe Fisk is "all natural". How about Batman vs Fisk?
@jamesmilford60513 ай бұрын
@@Zurround it's depends if batman gets time to study kingpin if not then all kingpin . Bane needs the roids to do half the things kingpin does natural
@WaylonMoone14 күн бұрын
@@ZurroundMy money’s on Fisk. You gatta remember Bane is a much better fighter yes, But what can a super human with great martial arts do to a massive human being who knows grappling and can casually fight Spiderman whos well over 100+ tons from stopping trains and sometimes pulling all the buildings together. If hes a theeat to spiderman whos beyound human strength, Speed, and tactics. Bane needs his venom to hurt Fisk and even then Hes a great grappler, he just needs to grab Bane and can break him.
@michaelgarcia568011 ай бұрын
He worked out so damn hard he is now arguably physically stronger than most Super Soldier tiers.
@Aloysius1011 ай бұрын
If daredevil can beat him, I think real super soldier can wipe the floor with him.
@ravenouspuncher11 ай бұрын
@@Aloysius10 lmao. keep crying
@Mayan_8869411 ай бұрын
@@Aloysius10not really, kingpin is a unit
@Mayan_8869411 ай бұрын
@@Aloysius10not at all. kingpin is a beast.
@oluwadamilola623311 ай бұрын
@@Aloysius10 daredevil can detect weakpoints .
@sebastianstark851711 ай бұрын
Fisk has been shown to have superhuman strength. He's definitely stronger than a human could normally attain, even one who works out "really hard". He has been shown to exceed human limits many times. Kingpin has always been one of my favorite villains, because of his craftiness and intellect in addition to his physical prowess.
@ImnotMattMurdock8 ай бұрын
Calling Kingpin a Baki character was genius. I never thought about it but that's spot on
@buildaggedonarmanaziie446211 ай бұрын
Kingpin is one of the best characters because of all of his context and as you said, "substance," and although it is cool to see his skills and strenght feats like fighting Black Panther, Captain America, Daredevil, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Punisher, Winter Soldier, Tombstone and others, I actually really like characters like Kingpin who just have a lot of leverage with his wealth, his connections, his influence, his intelligence and strategic mind and other things that make him formidable. Kind of like Penguin in DC, how he is not exactly all that compared to Batman and others, but he has control and major influence with his money, his connections, and other things that he specializes in. I just like those types of characters because it shows that the can still be a relevant threat even without any powers or fighting or anything like that.
@Zurround3 ай бұрын
He is also NOT purely evil. There is some good in him too. He reminds me of Khan from Star Trek in that respect. There are certain people like his wife that he really does love and he has a soft spot for children. If you are in prison for doing sick things to children you don't want to run into Fisk...
@JustSomeGuy44011 ай бұрын
Characters like Kingpin, Bane, Batman, Captain America, Deathstroke, Spider-Man, etc are WAY stronger & faster than people think
@TheVetoSkreeemer11 ай бұрын
From that list Kingpin and Batman are the only ones thet havent enhancemente, via drugs , radiation or other.
@lancekemal898911 ай бұрын
I remember Batman kicking a motorcycle in half in the comics. Don't think even a peak human can do that😂 I guess Batman sets his own standards for what is peak human
@ohhellwhereami257411 ай бұрын
Comics are crazy so obviously@@lancekemal8989
@LJBJ5011 ай бұрын
Writers gotta do a better job of making kingpins strength make sense.
@JustSomeGuy44011 ай бұрын
@@lancekemal8989 Amanda Waller literally classifies Batman as a meta human, and his feats suggests his above a “peak human”. Hell characters like Bane has been stated to have meta human speed/reflexes off venom, and superhuman strength. Spider-Man deadass doesn’t think Fisk is human, he thought he was a mutant given how powerful he is. Most comic “street tiers” display shit consistently that’s vastly above what peak humans can do
@kieranhutchinson476210 ай бұрын
Excellent video Ivan. Kingpin is both my favourite Daredevil and Spider-Man villain and my number one favourite comic book villain. This extensive look at his many feats is a splendid analysis of his strengths and abilities as a character. Smashing work Ivan.
@hollow-point869011 ай бұрын
Wow, I didn't know Kingpin was that strong, and his fighting skills are amazing.
@KentPetersonmoney11 ай бұрын
I thought he was just average or a little above average when it came to fighting skills. Didn't know he was that highly skilled.
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
Yeah Kingpin is built different!
@srstriker642011 ай бұрын
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable yeah because he is always treated like he is a force of nature like he is completely invulnerable to physical attacks and even if he was killed or imprisoned is like opening the Pandora’s box
@night-x679311 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the 90's Spider-Man cartoon showing that Kingpin can take on Red Skull's old WWII giant robots which have to be at least 4 to 5 tons at most.
@rm3ds89711 ай бұрын
Kingpin is a legit Baki comic character
@buildaggedonarmanaziie446211 ай бұрын
I haven't really read the comics, so I didn't know that Kingpin was a Daredevil characters, I first saw Kingpin in Spider-Man The Animated Series, which was awesome, because it showed how he is a guy who is the boss boss, like the big boss, because he was good at combat, he has a lot of capital and intelligence, he is a master strategist, he can make stronger and more dangerous people work for him, he has money to get to and around things, he has connections everywhere, like Kingpin is just an amazing character.
@lancekemal898911 ай бұрын
Kingpin was a Spiderman villain first but eventually became the arch Nemesis to Daredevil. He's also one of Punisher's main antagonists too
@buildaggedonarmanaziie446211 ай бұрын
@@lancekemal8989 Nice. This is a character involved in a lot of things. A lot of relevance
@master-of-mind588111 ай бұрын
Every comicbook character with a unique talent or skillset is based off an original concept or archetype. In this case the kingpin’s strength and conditioning is akin to an old time strongman. These circus athletes of old would demonstrate tremendous feats of strength and endurance as a result of vigorous training and conditioning. I like to think of the kingpin in the same vain. Fisk is a man of focus, commitment, sheer will, as a result he is tough, robust and burly.
@jameshalstead168611 ай бұрын
Ivan, it blows me away how much work you must have put into creating this content. Thank you sooo much for providing this content. I would love to see some V.S. Breakdowns in the future. I feel like you would put way more energy into it than other similar KZbinrs. Once again, thank you.
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it! Yea these vids ain’t easy! Glad folks notice the work
@EsotericEric11 ай бұрын
The creators need to stop saying Kingpin doesn't have super powers when he obviously has super strength.
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
I think comic logic makes it to where you can work out and gain superhuman strength without actually having chemically enhanced superpowers or something lol
@joaojahnke96845 ай бұрын
It has been implied he could be a mutant but it went nowhere. But yeah, comic book dudes can't train their way into superhuman status because cool
@IvaNTheUnStoppable5 ай бұрын
Comic humans are basically like Baki anime characters lol characters with no superpowers but can work out and get strong
@joaojahnke96845 ай бұрын
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable yeah pretty much
@DanielDeLeon6911 ай бұрын
Kingpin Is Like So Strong Both in The Comics And Movies Too
@charlesbomerschein970711 ай бұрын
Kingpin has the power of One Above All and cartoons on his side!
@ntnrocket13 ай бұрын
It's interesting to see here all the different renderings of Wilson Fisk over the decades. All the characters are distinct and recognizable in their own right, but it's amazing how each one can look so different from other renderings of them over the years.
@dreamingthelife11 ай бұрын
Sick 🤘
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the donation bruh!!!
@Hamilton-The-Unstoppable.11 ай бұрын
Nice Video, I didn’t even know he was this Powerful. you should do a Video of how Powerful Catman is.
@tyroneflaucher349911 ай бұрын
Great report. Thanx for sharing
@HepCatJack11 ай бұрын
When Jessica Drew (Spider-Woman) said the "beam weights a Ton", it was a figure of speech, her power isn't to instantly know the exact weight of things.
@TheOne-zn1bd11 ай бұрын
Know its consistently listed as him having no Superpowers, but do have a suspension that someone like Fisk with his connections and ambition has secretly had some enhancements by someone like the power broker or trained in the use of Chi, which has given none powered characters the ability to pull off some crazy feats before or even both. But he defo got something else happening other than gym time
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
I like the idea of chi
@Aloysius1011 ай бұрын
Chi would make more sense, especially as he went toe to toe with the Hand. While it can’t really do much against high level heroes, it can really help you survive against them.
@ProfessorVince11 ай бұрын
This was a good deep dive of The Kingpin. His strength is always debatable considering different classes of strength, and durability. His strength while impressive, is a bit unrealistic or maybe inconsistent compared to characters that have actual Super Strength, and Super Durability (far surpasses even peak human levels like Batman, Daredevil, and Even Kingpin) Back in the day they had a tendency to make every villain “the ultimate match” for the hero which makes for an interesting read to see how they fair.
@HepCatJack11 ай бұрын
In the Comic from the late 1970's - 1980's where he fights Spider-Man and Spidey says he can't take much more of this, what I remember from that story was that it was unusual circumstances, he had either hadn't slept for several days, or was infected with a nasty virus.
@thenoob_artist058611 ай бұрын
15:00 Can't deny King Pin extremely strong. In that comic spiderman got shoulder dislocated and got fever and he always never fight with all strength. If spiderman goes all out against Kingppin simply can kill him with one punch.
@thenoob_artist058611 ай бұрын
@IStevenSeagal Yes I'm. Same time you are steven Seagal fanboy.
@reodimitri11 ай бұрын
I find it very difficult to gauge Kingpin’s strength and speed… He gets away with pulling off some awesomely strange feats, and he has no powers 🤨❓⚠️
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
Right!
@lancekemal898911 ай бұрын
Well Batman kicked a Motorcycle in half. A real human couldn't do that.
@dreamingthelife11 ай бұрын
just found your channel, it's amazing! thanks for showing his much of an absolute beast Kingpin is! hope you do more Ninja's like Raiden from Metal gear and Yaiba from Ninja Gaiden-Z oh and Rai from Valiant comics anyways love the channel, got a tonne of content to dig through 🤘
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
Welcome to the channel!
@johnthompson143711 ай бұрын
fisk is super strong, no doubt about it. no matter what is said in the hand books.he is not spiderman strong,but he is still super strong!
@mrnozchalazt719911 ай бұрын
Kingpin is one of those characters with no powers that will have you like “…..Alright… 👀 What is going on here?” 😂🤣
@matthewdunham168911 ай бұрын
There has been a tradition in comic books since the 70s that elite marital artists, e.g., Shang Chi, Dare Devil, Iron Fist, Batman, Richard Dragon, Bronze Tiger, even Captain America (who is mildly superhuman already) can achieve superhuman feats and strength by tapping their chi. Kingpin definitely fits into this category. Kingpin represents the worst and best of sheer athletic size and speed by Western money driven science and training combined with Eastern philosophy and zen mind over matter. A true sociopath ever since his wife died, a PHD in criminality, a master of "the Art of and War" and a sensei,oyakata, shifu who can at least snatch press (ground to press overhead in one motion) over 500. pounds. Bench press at least 800 pounds and fight a dozen highly skilled martial artists with weapons barehanded and in his underwear. Never mind being able to beat down Spider-Man Cap and DD on a good day!
@frankwilliams303611 ай бұрын
You're definitely right about one thing. Marvel has some explaining to do. Kingpin should not be THAT strong. As a matter of fact most people his age carrying that much weight usually have a heart attack or stroke under the amount of stress he's usually going through.
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
Yeah he really reminds me of an anime character! Being 450 lb either it being all muscle or fat neither are healthy lol. a lot of people who don't know You can actually be overweight with muscle lol so regardless it's still technically unhealthy
@HepCatJack11 ай бұрын
Since Kingpin controls New York he could have gotten hold of enhancers over the years such as the Goblin Juice or whatever the Power Broker used to increase the strength of wrestlers. He may have sent someone to Kraven the Hunter's lair and duplicated the potion Kraven uses to increase his strength (or use a combination of all of them) He did poorly against Mr. Fixit and against Parker when he was angry at Aunt May being severely wounded.
@buildaggedonarmanaziie446211 ай бұрын
Nice new Kingpin video. Are you going to make new videos on characters with new recent feats, like Beast Boy turning into Starro or Garro, or Kang The Conqueror using this new "Chrono-cloning" ability in Venom #25 from 2021?
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
My Kang video is too recent. so I’m not making a new video on him ! My older videos that have done well with views are probably getting remakes, but if they did horrible with views in the first place, they probably won’t .
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
I like beast boy so the chances of him getting a new one is very likely lol
@buildaggedonarmanaziie446211 ай бұрын
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable OK, I guess. I just thought that it was an interesting addition to add in to Kang's power set, but I see what you mean.
@lordjet159611 ай бұрын
I first came across Kingpin in 1970s, in UK black and white Marvel reprints. I thought for a long time he had to be superpowered, and it was tied to the diamond on his cane. Hahahah...I was very young! To this day, I still think he shows superhuman strength and durability. It's way beyond what you could achieve by dedication, and training. Great character, by the way! :)
@mink283811 ай бұрын
King pin should've compete in Strongman competition
@yvessergetshefu446211 ай бұрын
Yeah I’m so hype that the MU give him more light
@tokkyofaison539011 ай бұрын
He seems like he's juggernaut .!
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
he’s the living body of a juggernaut of a human with no superpowers!
@marvin298311 ай бұрын
I've always like Kingpin's penchant for the long-game, and psychologically manipulating his foes. Physically, however, they seem to big-up Kingpin whenever it's convenient for the plot. But, when Spiderman isn't playing around, he tosses Kingpin around like a puppy. And, it's not even worth mentioning him against the Hulk (in any incarnation), c'mon....
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
I don't think nobody's saying he's hulk level though bruh!!
@Flashshadow11 ай бұрын
I’ve always found it fascinating how insanely strong and skilled the Kingpin has been throughout the years! It’s a shame he’s never been in any of the Marvel vs Capcom titles. Imagine pitting Wilson Fisk against some of the powerhouses in Street Fighter! Or even fighting games like Tekken or King of Fighters… 😲
@lancekemal898911 ай бұрын
Kingpin vs Zangief would be pretty epic. Or Hugo
@lancekemal898911 ай бұрын
Kingpin vs Zangief would be pretty epic. Or Hugo
@LJBJ5011 ай бұрын
Nah, the writers gotta do a better job of making his strength make sense💯
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
Same with Baki writers!!
@LJBJ5011 ай бұрын
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable They're even worse! How the hell Yuujirou walk through bullet proof glass to get to Pickle like that🤣🤣🤣
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
Or pickle overpowering 200 Ton dinosaurs!
@LJBJ5011 ай бұрын
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable One more. Yuujirou overpowering the US military 😭
@colinjansen93467 ай бұрын
This guy is a serious muscle machine
@treywilliams722311 ай бұрын
Please do a video on Biscuit Olivia from Baki Hanma!!
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
I can tell somebody liked my baki references lol
@raygeorge524211 ай бұрын
It's funny Kingpin has more examples of pure physical strength then the Blob does. Kingpin like Captain America is pretty ridiculous how they keep saying they're not superhuman. Kingpin should be a low level mutant.
@thehulkster17smash3411 ай бұрын
One of my favorite Spider-Man villains and my favorite Daredevil villain.
@charlessmith940011 ай бұрын
It’d be interesting if he had a super soldier serum or had a genetic mutation upgrade that cant be detected
@ronaldneal38711 ай бұрын
Hey man great job
@TCMECH7911 ай бұрын
People underestimate the kingpin due to his size
@antwonsmith893111 ай бұрын
Kingpin is my all-time favorite Marvel villain and crime Boss.
@theedwardianАй бұрын
He's a borderline mutant, just without the X-gene. Plus a lifetime of obsessive exercising has augmented him above normal human limitations. At 6'7 and 450 pounds, he's only an inch shorter than the tallest yokozuna sumo wrestler who ever lived in real-life. He's peak.
@TalkingAboutGames11 ай бұрын
The Kingpin makes me think of an elephant with the speed of a mouse!
@ftrwar11 ай бұрын
When I was a kid there were stories suspecting he was a mutant and his mass was solid muscle
@mattmc9812Ай бұрын
Would love a cross over with him and batman fighting each other
@supermariomaker173411 ай бұрын
I remember seeing a comic where kingpin trash talked doctor doom and said that if your a king than why haven’t you put me down yet as a response to doctor doom saying he had no worth because doom is king.
@calvinlimgo11 ай бұрын
With this much strength, he's got to be either a mutant or have been enhanced somehow. No human can be like that, without enhancement. The writers are just crazy to give him all that strength and power and say he's just human.
@kingshadow878211 ай бұрын
King Pin time!
@jonathanguaxinim-raccoon93212 ай бұрын
A fight between Kingpin and Hanayama, the character from Baki and Yakuza leader, would be interesting.
@thereccher874611 ай бұрын
My theory is that there might exist a sort of proto-X mutation that exists between human and mutant. So he's technically human but his line is on it sway to becoming a mutant. That's why Kingpin has absurd stats that surpass world class strongmen.
@daraghokane423611 ай бұрын
Everyone on marvel earth is a mutant as mutation is on a spectrum. That idea actually fits with how sentinels can't always tell Humans and mutants apart, some just have terrible almost non existent powers
@hardcorejab11 ай бұрын
Kingpin is a carreer criminal who never gets caught. He probably uses stuff like Bane to increase his strength. Kigpin took a super soldier serum and killed everyone involved.
@DrHuxley-11 ай бұрын
"I'm kingpin" Batman voice
@Zurround3 ай бұрын
I think I saw a crossover comic book once where Fisk fought Batman. I forgot who won.
@matthewschwartz660711 ай бұрын
His greatest intelligence is really his mind and his manipulation skills .
@colinjansen93467 ай бұрын
And he knows karate
@ta3_unknownn325011 ай бұрын
Kingpin should get a buff, where he has a exoskeleton suit that thinks like jarvis and venom mixed 🔥. Just giving him more invulnerability to attacks/bombs etc. Kingpin wearing an actual suit coated with Uru x Carbonadium like Omega Red's tentacles. That comes with power gloves that charges kinetic energy through the suit to be redispursed.
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
I kinda like the idea of him not wearing no type of enhanced stuff, but he still does superhuman stuff lol
@ITriggerFolks5 ай бұрын
I honestly feel like Kingpin is secretly a mutant
@Masonicon11 ай бұрын
His strength levels keeps me from using him as "fat guy that hate superhumans" cuz of crossover tournaments that didn't just bans anyone whose powers are from anything other than purely external mundane technologies, that tournament are also bans anyone with metahuman physical attributes(even when they're technically non-powered humans)
@LeandroCaioBorgesАй бұрын
I know he trained a lot But he absolutely has some kind of mutation It’s impossible this type of strength being normal
@srstriker642011 ай бұрын
Well he always treated like this force of nature, like he is invulnerable and if he was killed or imprisoned is like opening the Pandora’s box
@jamesmilford605111 ай бұрын
I want to see king pin in a fighting game he will be a mix of e Honda and zangif with a little of Greg Murdoch
@KentPetersonmoney11 ай бұрын
I asked this question back in high school. If I suddenly became superhuman and my strength increased 10 times I'm not expecting any human to be stronger than me unless thier superhuman to.
@Jam-og1km2 күн бұрын
All because of his W E I G H T
@buildaggedonarmanaziie446211 ай бұрын
How strong is Tombstone again? Because for Tombstone to at least be in that Hammerhead to Spider-Man rage of strenght is impressive for Kingpin to go toe to toe with him.
@buildaggedonarmanaziie446211 ай бұрын
@IStevenSeagal Really? That's cool.
@Brabbs11 ай бұрын
We NEED a fight between Yujiro and Kingpin.
@magazineretriever903611 ай бұрын
Captain America could beat the hell out of Kingpin.
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
They already fought and Kingpin almost made him black out! in this video!
@websurfer867011 ай бұрын
Idc what anyone says. Hes on THE SAUCE
@SandyRedcloud11 ай бұрын
They are gonna wake fisk mutations soon , hope his skin turn into something like diamonds or gold lol
@stevenscheristin462811 ай бұрын
He practices martial arts and body building so with that combo makes him stronger
@TheTiger231111 ай бұрын
Ivan The Unstopp, since you did one on and Spidey villain .How about doing one on how strong Katt Williams 😂. No, how strong is Tombstone?
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
Bruh said katt Williams!!
@TheTiger231111 ай бұрын
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable 😆 Why not he a strong comedian !😂
@maundamartin598 ай бұрын
Marvels version of Grand admiral THRAWN.
@arkinyte1311 ай бұрын
He eats his wheaties.
@SoulGizmo11 ай бұрын
He is a baki character
@sebastianomalleylopez900010 ай бұрын
Do Crystal from the Inhumans Pleasee
@IvaNTheUnStoppable10 ай бұрын
Oh snap
@AKno4737211 ай бұрын
they shouldve gave vincent(mcu kingpin) the same makeup work as colin ferrell to him cuz hes big but not huge hands big
@tovibarfield348611 ай бұрын
He's a demon in human flesh
@petermcguinness528111 ай бұрын
Could you imagine if the kingpin goes straight and become part of a super hero???????
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
He'd do alot of good!!
@Havsue11 ай бұрын
Please do how strong is Prime Trapper
@bigyodawash8 ай бұрын
His height makes everything possible especially work out amplify his strength the taller the more weight increases durability height plays major factor image if Shaq was cut up like rock including techniques fighting styles technically a natural peak super strength
@Leonard_Wilson5 ай бұрын
He’s basically Mark Henry or Eddie Hall
@IvaNTheUnStoppable5 ай бұрын
Times 100!
@selfelected383211 ай бұрын
Kingpin is a Big Big evil Batman
@youngswagg14945 күн бұрын
King pin is a gag character. Got no real reason why is stronger than a lot of hero’s and villains with powers.
@righteousfroce125411 ай бұрын
I wonder how strong the kingpin would be if he was female? Even if you converted his strength to a female version of himself he should still be stronger then most men.
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
Honestly if kingpin lost half of his strength it still wouldn't matter much considering he still would be impressively strong lol
@richardlegrand469711 ай бұрын
Basically human darkseid
@railgunsforlife83037 ай бұрын
Marvel really need to stop saying Kingpin is only "peak human" and admit he is superhuman. As for my previous comment (which I just deleted) about people saying MCU Kingpin is stronger, that was me misreading some article saying that the Kingpin in the MCU is stronger than the Kingpin in the Netflex and some article suspecting the MCU Kingpin using some sort of enhancers to increase his strength.
@IvaNTheUnStoppable7 ай бұрын
There's a lot of humans in Marvel that need to stop calling Peak human lol Comic humans can do amazing things with training lol
@omens2556 ай бұрын
If his human anotomy worked like Dragon ball logic wooooooo boy who knows how strong
@IvaNTheUnStoppable6 ай бұрын
Bahahaha
@jhulvincentcalabia47849 ай бұрын
Sure thing he's born with a genetic condition that affects his muscle growth and it's density making him stronger and more durable than an average person.
@iokuproductions71314 ай бұрын
Come on, hanayama vs kingpin is my dream match.
@maundamartin598 ай бұрын
Wilson Fisk AKA SUGE KNIGHT 1995-96
@Thebrightlightheros11 ай бұрын
kingpin is one punch man but big from lol🤣😂🤣🤣🤣
@SG-js2qn11 ай бұрын
He's as strong as any bad writer needs him to be, and that sets the bar to be exceeded by the next bad writer. At any point now, I expect him to out-wrestle Galactus.
@tomasverner535411 ай бұрын
100% agree. Kingpin is a great character as a crime lord and tough guy. Why ruin it by overdoing it and making it unreasonable even within Marvel context? Bad writing.
@SG-js2qn11 ай бұрын
@@tomasverner5354 I first came across Kingpin decades ago, when I was a kid, and he was a Spider-Man villain. I can still remember my confusion and disappointment when Spider-Man found him physically difficult to beat, and it wasn't leading to a plot point where he'd somehow boosted his strength to superhuman levels. Nope, he was just a dude. And as strong as Spider-Man. Years later, they had Spider-Man beat up the herald of Galactus, Firelord. So you see the connection, allowing a bad writer to have Fisk grab Galactus and break his back.
@tomasverner535411 ай бұрын
@@SG-js2qn Yeah. I rremember that. In general characters are often written better when they are allowed to be more limited if you know what I mean. The more popular a characters becomed the more unreasonable and inconsistent their feats seem to be allowed to get though.
@magicrealms282411 ай бұрын
This gets me amped for the Echo show thats coming soon. I knew Kingpin was strong but with these feats? Him going against superhumans & handling them? I wonder what his workout schedule looks like lol
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
Marvel just needs to go ahead and reveal he secretly a nephilim or something lol because the math ain't mathing! Like I get Spider-Man holds back but sheesh!
@papabearmccoy77911 ай бұрын
There is no way that he’s not considered super human. No amount of training could let a regular person do these things.
@IvaNTheUnStoppable11 ай бұрын
He's definitely superhuman with the feats! Just technically doesn't have superpowers but he still does superhuman stuff lol kind of how like Batman has no superpowers but still does superhuman stuff lol