How Strong Was Dabura BEFORE The Majin Boost?

How Strong Was Dabura BEFORE The Majin Boost? ‪@LSMMIKE‬ explains in this video featuring the Dragon Ball Z anime and manga!
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[@SlightlyShoobie]

I never even noticed the parallel between Bobbitti accessing/boosting Vegeta's evil side and the Old Kai unlocking Gohan's latent potential. Both magical powerups that access one's hidden powers. One for good and one for evil. Really brilliant. For all its flaws the Buu saga still had great narrative beats and parallels.

[@Mandalore_ultimate]

Literally the most wasted Dragon Ball villain

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

He was a mini boss so it happens

[@penksglid7475]

Yeah def wasted potential. He's kinda like raditz in the way that they both just die to open the door to show how powerful the next threat will be. It'd be cool if when goku and vegeta were in buu releasing the z fighters they somehow accidently let dabura out and he learned some of babadis magic or something to become a actual threat.

[@Mandalore_ultimate]

​​@@penksglid7475 Dabura also had one of the most badass designs for a villain but was used as just cannon fodder for Majin Boo

[@anthonyrashadmd]

Idk, at least Dabura served as a measurement of power to show how Super Perfect Cell would scale in this arc. If in the story, they mention that he is as strong as Cell, it helps that he's fighting Gohan to elaborate on how much he's slacked but also how much weaker he is to Majin Boo as he easily dispatched of him. King Cold served NO purpose in the story whatsoever and if he was in his second form then that made it even worse 😂

[@Mandalore_ultimate]

​@@anthonyrashadmdKing Cold wasn't able to transform the way that Frieza could and Frieza had based his second form off his father.

[@Rabbits_Midnight_Chronicles]

I feel like the Demon realm/universe is such a gold mine for new villains and arcs. Especially now that they’ve brought angels and gods into the picture.

[@ebboy53]

Love the amount of evidence you cover and seeing both sides of the argument equally. Keep it up man these are so entertaining.

[@elijahbaley5556]

For once I actually AM watching in the first hour! But for real Dabura is such an interesting character, I wish they did more with him.

[@ChronoSquare]

Makes me wish the Dragon Ball Heroes stuff was more canon than it actually is. Shout out to the Majin Buu saga clips done by Team Four Star including Babidi quipping "Towa's gonna hate me oh well whatever she's barely canon anyways"

[@Mandalore_ultimate]

Only killed Kibito, has one fight with Gohan then gets turned into a cookie by Majin Boo 😂

[@MissDemonicTV]

Majin Dabura imo was both "weaker" and stronger. He was controlled but his intelligence was still the same. The majin boost probably did make him stronger. But also being the guiding and right hand man for Babidi who never usually questioned him made him weaker until buu was an issue.

[@kingdoge69]

I find it funny how babidi’s magic doesn’t even work on vegeta and dabura. Both defy babidi like nothing, I wonder if Dabura had an ulterior motive while being babidi’s “pawn” maybe he had planned to control buu himself and kill babidi after, but things were unpredictable with buu

[@Jiron127]

It likely did nothing for dabura. Just mind control. Which dabura proved to disobey here and there

[@IN-tm8mw]

@@kingdoge69 This is why i like how Xenoverse expanded on the demons in the demon realm. So much can more can be added into the main story from there.

[@bluecheckmiya]

Another awesome topic that I never even thought to really ask. You forget that, obviously, with Dabura being under Babidi's control his natural power isn't likely that high. He probably got a boost as well

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Amazing video as always Mike! Your videos always deliver!

[@GeteMachine]

I'm guessing he was just as strong as Perfect Cell, but as Majin, he became as strong as Super Perfect Cell.

[@pianoandguitarlover2773]

That's kind of what I always thought. Dabura before Babidi's possession might have been as strong as Perfect Cell.

[@michaelfrazier8104]

False

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Love your videos Mike! Thanks for always making my day🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@xlro8f853]

I like how “Magic” is somehow separate from power systems in shows

[@keljerel]

This is actually a great question. It never crossed my mind to be honest.

[@black2785]

You have the most interesting dbz theories analysis I’ve seen.

[@SwabySean1]

14:28 Vegeta's super saiyan 2 before his Majin boost. Probably would have been just a little higher than what Gohan was against Super perfect Cell.

[@pianoandguitarlover2773]

I still think Vegeta would have done something stupid in a fight against Dabura like he did 2nd form Cell, and get himself turned into stone. Because it's Vegeta after all.

[@sincerelyjb3]

Shout out to you for coming up with shit I would NEVER think about fr tho

[@GVGINU]

Since the boost is a "potential unlock" technique, I'd say if anything I agree with you, that before the Majin Boost, Dabura was probably around the same power level as Perfect Cell and after he matched Super Perfect Cell. It makes the most sense if he wasn't already at his fullest potential at the moment.

[@pianoandguitarlover2773]

Babidi's Majin spell is kind of like an evil version of Guru's or the Elder Kai's "unlocked potential" abilities. But it can only work on a being with an evil heart, and it brings out the inner evil ki that they could not fully achieve without Babidi's Majin boost.

[@SwabySean1]

The Thought of Dabura never crossed my mind of how strong he was before the magin boost upgrade.

[@rc9145]

The demon realm/after life is super under utilized i hope they eventually do an arc in the super manga without it entirely being just ooo look at these past dead characters as fanservice

[@gohanson27]

Great damn topic

[@teeboz6237]

With Pui Pui, and I know he’s taken as a joke, you have to remember that after Babadi stopped recruiting there were a handful of strong people in U7 not including the z fighters. Im not including Beerus or Whis here either btw. The top 5 were Freeza, King Cold, Ginyu and whoever was the next top 2 of the Ginyu force. Pui Pui on comparison was strong. I don’t believe everything Kaioshin says but for him to be at least worried about Pui Pui after stating he can one shot Freeza means Pui Pui should be above him on Namek. Meaning he would be the strongest being in the universe if not for the Z fighters, Dabura and arguably #18. He’s no slouch. Vegeta just made him look like a child because that’s what our homie does.

[@acecashman1237]

So compared to the stronger Z fighters, the Demon universe is full of jabronis if Dabura pre Majin boost was the strongest there. That means SSJ2 teen Gohan alone could perform a hostile takeover of the place lol

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

Man i would have loved to see the fight between Dabura and Piccolo, since Piccolo use to be a Demon King, but at the same time Piccolo absorbing Nail and Kami probably made him pure for good

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

@@howtogoogle8031 did you have a stroke?

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

Mike could you do a video talking About the continuity of hell

[@whydoyougottahavthis]

Why the fuck do you always ask questions I never thought to bring up on the playground! Awesome bro! And Dabura is underrated!

[@ChronoSquare]

I like how this reminded me, in Dokkan Battle I have the awakening medals of Future Gohan DFE to farm out because he's getting an Extreme Z Awaken shortly :) Dang there aren't many teen/adult Gohan cards that are any good, all the good Gohans are the kid/young versions LOL

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

I wonder if Piccolo Jr could of got a Majin boost or Because of Nail & Kami he wouldn't he able to

[@eranshachar9954]

I love Dabura he is such a badass and I wish he stayed some more in the story. As for how powerful the Majin boost made him we may never know only to speculate. Especially since BP doesn't exist anymore and we have to guess. I think it was never stated intentionally to which form of Cell Kakarrot was referring to, so that we as fans could speculate and open up our minds. I always thought he meant Perfect Cell but not Super Perfect Cell. Because Kakarrot fought against Perfect Cell and it make sense to me that this is the Cell he is comparing Dabura with.

[@christopherlee3163]

A shame we never got to see his full power and how much damage he could have done. If by some chance he was at full power when fighting Gohan I find it hard to believe

[@donovanbradford8231]

I want to say he was I don't know if they do this in the manga but in the anime he goes into a meditation chamber to enhance his powers to the fullest when he fought Gohan. In fact the long wait was what really started to get to Vegeta increasing his annoyance making Dabura take notice for Babadi

[@geebeepman]

I honestly think fans put way more thought and effort into making undisclosed power levels between different characters make sense than toriyama ever did.

[@lloydnorval1989]

I wish Supreme Kai had the power Piccolo thought he had, he was an awesome character when he entered the tournament all stoic and "cool and collected", until he showed fear of pretty much EVERY Saiyan power up and transformation

[@jordannichols8338]

Hey man great content! Could you do a video about how strong Goku likely was after his battle with Vegeta on Earth but prior to his training on in the gravity ship to Namek? I’m sure he got a zenkai boost after healing in the hospital before leaving.

[@yvonnecox7534]

I think he was around thirty thousand healthy

[@DynastyZwarrior90]

Since Dabura is usually compared to Cell, I'd say he was about as strong as Perfect Cell at full power or the bulky Cell that was too slow for SSJ2 Gohan. Enough to put him above Shin but below Super Perfect Cell/Majin Dabura level.

[@lloydnorval1989]

I'm guessing, if Majin Dabura was the level of Super Perfect Cell, Dabura WITHOUT the Majin boost must have been close to the power of Perfect Cell before Cell regenerated from the explosion on King Kai's planet?

[@americangoombah4015]

Imagine Frieza or King Cold if they got the Majin boost prior to the Android Saga.

[@winterburden]

The Majin "boost" actually weakened Dabura through magick and made him controllable.

[@brizzy5star]

That's very true if you actually understand the whole possession thing . Vegeta had the power already he just was mentally tearing himself down thinking he was less than Goku. The majin symbol allowed him to not hold back anymore and that's all Vegeta really wanted

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

No really, because Majin Vegeta was strong enough to to do whatever he wanted

[@binarystar300]

That makes no sense. Then again, neither does Kid Buu becoming weaker from absorbing literal Gods into his body, so who knows 🤷‍♂

[@justinarzola4584]

Not at all,Babidi's magic influence is weak since Vegeta was resisting.

[@leopold43]

I dont think thats true at all because spopavitch was originally decimated by mr satan, then comes back to crush videl, who already had ki control at this point. There is a boost here. Not just unlocked potential

[@herohut725]

My biggest question is who's governing the demon realm while Debura was busy being possessed. We need a story where the heroes go to thw demon realm to borrow a magical item and they find out Debura has a hot daughter and wife who are in charge in his absence. Screw it. I'll just write it myself.

[@houstonfob2FOREVER]

Dabura is literally my favorite Dbz villian, it still makes me mad what they did to his character once buu showed up

[@brizzy5star]

I honestly believe gohan during cell saga couldve unlocked ssj3 if he knew about it people dont understand how strong teen gohan was during that time he was a literal monster

[@shane7051]

I could see it. Especially since SSJ3 seems more like a Super Saiyan technique rather than a full on next level transformation.

[@brizzy5star]

@@shane7051 also notice that babidi didn’t know the location of Buu until Gohan unlocked ssj2 that’s some pretty good proof that gohan was a problem and we see even a power down Buu was still ssj3 levels. That’s exactly why I feel people can’t realize that teen gohan was something completely different during that time a anomaly a hybrid saiyan with overwhelming potential

[@i360fantasy7]

Can you please do a video on who would win in a fight between recoome or nail? Recoome was bodying an over 30,000 power level vegeta and nail is stated to be at 42,000. I think that would be interesting

[@rennenb]

We here it lit lol

[@Phoenix-pm2qr]

5:08 Yamcha: "Even perfecter Cell." Cell "Okay, Yamcha, accurate, but tone it down please".

[@MVLIKXCIII]

the majin amp boosts ones latent potential based on the darkness in ones heart.. therefore characters like piccolo and vegeta wuld benefit more as they have been resisting the darkness int heir heart but characters like dabura were already king of the demon realm so the darkness in his heart was most likely already thriving so the majin amp did very little to dabura whcih also makes sense as to why supreme kai was afraid of him prior the majin amp

[@Jiron127]

Exactly!! Dabura didn't really get an amp at all. He's not ss2 tier because he couldn't break the mind control

[@BarnabyJonez]

Hey Mike let me guess you got a video in the top right corner?

[@LSMMIKE]

Nope, 5 videos. 😎

[@BarnabyJonez]

​@@LSMMIKElol love that bit man keep it going xD

[@Dislike-kq9uq]

Seeing blue Kibito and pink Kai is strange

[@ceznvr]

Dabura was so underused he could have been a great villain

[@derekclawson5707]

And that rage blast at Buu shell was still plenty of nerfed ..

[@cloudtg462]

NOTIFICATION GANG

[@SamsarasArt]

I believe in an earlier video, Mike deduced that Dabura is about as strong as Super Perfect Cell. When it comes to his level of power pre-Majin n boost, I'd say Dabura was around Perfect Cell before his zenkai.

[@EndoScorpion]

It's stated in the manga, and in multiple of Mike's videos (including this one), that Dabura was tougher/stronnger/more powerful than Cell. And Mike points out that Goku is likely refering to Super Perfet Cell here. So Dabura is above Super P Cell.

[@Jiron127]

Dabura is likely not that strong. Full power perfect cell level. He couldn't resist the mind control. So likely not on a ss2 level of power. He's between full power perfect cell and ss2 tier guys.

[@asatowolfe]

It would have been interesting if the Majin mark made Dabura _lose_ power, unlike other characters. Dabura raised his power through his dark meditation. You can't have a clear mind for meditation when you're possessed and under someone else's control (Babidi). So, while the Majin mark may unlock the evil in people's hearts and boosts their power, where it invokes a degree of subservience- it could easily go against the basis of Dabura's power and prevent him from powering up effectively.

[@Blaze-zm7zt]

first hour woo!

[@penksglid7475]

I think Babadies majjin potential unlock gives you more power depending on how much evil is in your heart. It explains why Dabura who is a demon king and full of evil, could've potentially got a huge power boost, but Vegeta, who barely had any evil in his heart at the time barely got a power boost. It also explains why spopavich qnd yamu got the ability to fix broken bones but vegeta didnt.

[@GeteMachine]

That is very possible.

[@Kenjitsuka]

Even further beyond!!!

[@xavierburton7407]

Can you do a video on gohan(7 years later) vs. cell and super perfect cell

[@LSMMIKE]

I already made that video. You can find it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGncXpiKprChoNU

[@xavierburton7407]

@@LSMMIKE 🤣🤣alright alright so can you do a video if piccolo and kami fused before the fight on namek with frieza

[@LSMMIKE]

I made that video too: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4WaYZ2wZ551kJI Check my channel, I have over 900 videos on it I’ve made over the years.

[@xavierburton7407]

@@LSMMIKE you’re the goat

[@dionysisnance4204]

I would say base bojack level then the majin boost put him to super bojack level basically a little stronger than super perfect cell

[@buenaondaduck4616]

Is it just me or is Laughingstock secretly VinylicPumaGaming??

[@bensoncheung2801]

💪💪💪

[@bryantbrown107]

😂He went to heaven😂

[@alfonzodozier5440]

Hey rq completely random but what if piccolo was possessed by babidi ik he doesn't have that same evil in his yeart n all that just would be koo to see like how powerful would he have gotten at that point ?

[@robertrainford6754]

The fact people keep referring to cell super perfect form as a form is stupid. It’s also more ridiculous anybody thinks dabura Is weaker than cell after the explosion.

[@donovanbradford8231]

For me it's really hard to tell how a lot of these characters stack overall because we see that Spopavich and Yamu were in the previous World Tournament and Yamu I believe lost in the first round to who Krillin beat in the next tournament and while Spopavich lost to Mr. Satan we actually don't know how far he got and even really how Mr. Satan stacks up in terms of power. Because Mr. Satan does show great feats of strength buts that Dragon Balls Goku very early on could replicate and while we onow from Gohan Vidal is stronger than her fathee already it still doesn't really give us much to compare to which is one of the weakest aspects of this arc. In early DBZ we get certain characters that tell us how strong they are and how our heros stack up. Like the Sibermen were as strong as Raditiz so after a year of training Piccolo and most of the others could easily best characters like that. Then the young Namekian warriors are roughly as strong as Piccolo and Gohan were on Earth so ofcourse they could a lot of Freiza's weaker henchmen but were clearly outclassed by Dadoria. We even see this even in the Andriod arc as Mech Freiza us pretty powerful but is nothing compared to Super Sayian Trunks so for Trunks to go 17 and 18 are stronger than him it really raises the stakes. In the Manjin Buu it's really hard to gauge threat level at times be we have no real frame of reference.

[@IN-tm8mw]

I ranked his power during this arc not only based on the fight between Dabura and Gohan but also how long they lasted fighting fat Buu. Facing Fat Buu also showed just how tuff Supreme Kai was also, its just that his forms of mental attacks were ineffective towards Buu.

[@LaidBack--]

My theory has always been with him being King of the Demon Realm, he didn't need any evil or hatred unlocked from his heart, he was the King of it. I believe it only served the purpose of targeting that and easily controlling him, but there was no power boost he'd particularly gain from it.

[@derekclawson5707]

I know it is a Dabura video but it's important to know when you are comparing the estimate. Dabura is in fact on the level of ssj2 and before magic still around PC level, maybe a bit higher.

[@SwabySean1]

Was gohan fighting at super saiyan 2 against Dabura or normal super saiyan 11:39. I've heard other sources say that. Gohan could access super saiyan 2 but could not fight in that form because of this conditioning from lack of training.

[@david-gi9yl]

Here's an ideal u should do a video on why Bibbidi didn't give buu the boost

[@ztrisk]

I have a video idea if it hadnt already been done. How come goku and the other z fighters didnt help future gohan and trunks by speaking to them through king kai. Or ever come back to earth to help train them?

[@famalam943]

I always thought it was badass in the anime how piccolo tried to take a shot at Dabura. Shame he didn’t get any shine

[@Orpheusftw]

Interesting. I never really thought about his pre OR post Majin boost. The anime didn't do a good job of presenting him as a threat.

[@penksglid7475]

Dabura is such wasted potential. Hes like raditz in the way that they both die just to show how powerful the next threat is and progress the plot. Itd be cool if when Buu was turning into kid Buu he accidently released dabura in the steam he let out or something, to make him a threat they can say he learned babadies magic so he can never be controlled again and so hes a fighter that can pose a threat like with Moros Magic kinda

[@dominiquerobinson8888]

I agree with Dabura, but Raditz wasn’t wasted at all. Raditz literally set the events of Z in motion with introducing them to beings outside earth and indirectly the otherworld. Along with showing how much influence earth had on Goku, as even blood brothers are different

[@ghostwriter1440]

What if he was around super sayin grade 4 goku during the cell games

[@andresmovement3595]

Where is chapter 1 of book 2?

[@LowellLucasJr.]

The thing that makes me laugh with DBZ characters that's when they underestimate other beings from other realms. Dabura may not have power levels that exceed perfect cell or Gohan for that matter, but the guy has tons of other abilities that could have kept Goku and Vegeta on the fences if underestimated!

[@ojpickle5923]

Probably still stronger than shin.

[@elijahbaley5556]

That's not saying much lmao

[@bluecheckmiya]

​@@elijahbaley5556ppl say that because of the comparison to Goku and the guys. Supreme Kai was likely a cell level threat himself based on the context in the series. He's very powerful

[@elijahbaley5556]

@@bluecheckmiya I know but it's fun to shit on him as a joke

[@rheem5794]

​@@bluecheckmiyaI don't think he was that strong if he was that scared of Dabura being there.

[@True2ChainzLilWayne]

Shin 1 shots semi-perfect cell and narrowly loses to perfect cell, given his fear and brief performance against buu.

[@WickedKnightAlbel]

I like to imagine Supreme Kai's perspective on Dabura is slightly skewed to begin with because he's proficient with magic and thus Supreme Kai is thoroughly aware of how much of a threat he is on multiple levels. Meanwhile, Saiyans tend to overpower magic till its effectiveness is functionally nullified unless they're caught off-guard by it, like Gohan was by Supreme Kai's freezing him in place All things considered, the very fact that worked probably skewed Supreme Kai's view on the Saiyans for the rest of that section of the arc

[@ericgamingland8853]

I think its stated that supreme Kai was close to or equal to perfect cell power

[@EndoScorpion]

People still continue to overstate how powerful Cell is. The manga itself (through Goku's dialogue) points out that Dabura is stronger than Super Perfect Cell. Mike points this out in all the videos surrounding this topic. Yet the comments are flooded with people saying they think Dabura is the same level as Super Perfect Cell. SSJ2 Gohan was so much more powerful than Cell that he absolutely dominated him. Even after Cell returned with the power boost, Gohan was confident he could still win with ease. And Gohan did win with only 50% of his power. This would imply that Mastered SSJ1 Gohan was either on the same level or higher than Perfect Cell. Or that the SSJ2 boost is higher than x2. Even with Gohan losing a lot of his Cell Games power by the time of the Buu Saga, he is still clearly way above Cell, just by the fact he can fight evenly with Dabura who is stated to be above Super Perfect Cell. Vegeta even points out that, despite Dabura being stronger than Cell, and despite Gohan losing power from lack of training.... Gohan still shouldn't have struggled as much as he did.

[@SapphirePlains]

Look I gotta admit when it came to demons Mike I've seen more from other anime if I'm counting Overlord with Lord Ains and Blue Exorcist with the literal devil Satan and his sons Rin and Yukio Okumara and Then Diablo in How not to summon a demon lord and well they actually proved to be more interesting because they as Demonic characters were around longer in their series than Dabura from DragonBall in my opinions. Dabura after all was around for a short time throughout until Fat Majin Boo turned him into a cookie and ate him and I think him in the afterlife with Videl, Chichi and Bulma was filler and that filler was short too.

[@zabustifu]

The fact that Dabura decided to dodge Gohan's Kamehameha could be due to Babidi being around, and Dabura's priority was to save his master. You can't assume Dabura would have behaved the same if Babidi wasn't around. Anyway, such scenes are often just for theatrics / plot reasons, so I don't think we should read too much into them.

[@phatman_on_ice8911]

I wonder what the majin boost would have done to cell or say a what if a cell jr survived

[@Powerviolenc3]

Cell jr did surviveinan island. manga only

[@CYLok]

Dabura was pretty strong... In dbs future trunks trained pretty hard to defeat Dabura despite already knowing about babidi plans and yet supreme Kai also sacrifice there to defeat him

[@Diablo-10]

I think if dabura won't control he be a good guy he constantly asked and question babidi's and when buu got release dabura see buu as a threat and uncontrollable and attack buu i see that dabura even under mind control have overall good morals

[@AaronWayne-wl2ji]

He did turn good in otherworld lol cuz King Yemma said sending he probably wanted to go to hell

[@Diablo-10]

@@AaronWayne-wl2ji I meant before going to heaven but if hell it's close to home then he maybe turned hell to a better place to be

[@derekclawson5707]

Cell Games Saga ssj2 Gohan, sorely underestimated. Buu Saga " nerfed " ssj2 Gohan, also sorely underestimated . .

[@galacticgalaxyonezerone7235]

I would say if vegeta is right with gohan not being close as he says to his former self and he still could fight if not beat dabura then goku is either off his rocker or its exaggerated by the writers. But who knows it’s dragon ball and full of holes yet it’s so good.

[@songohan2830]

W

[@TheKingsnake02]

I believe before the Majin boost dabura was perfect cell power level but his magic made him a stronger fighter to go against, and the Majin boost pushed him to super perfect cell level with again his magic made him a more difficult opponent than cell.

[@ogblackburt9200]

Actually, when you think about it, it would be perfectly explainable why the majin seal would make Dabura weaker. First off, he's a demon. Dark magic is beneath him ; he IS dark energy. Evil energy. Just like gods are divine energy. A mortal seal forcing submission and "boosting" negative traits would make absolutely no sense to a creature that's already the epitome of wicked. The only way a weakling like babidi could subdue him would be through a weakening. He barely subdued Vegeta, lost the grasp quickly at that. Dabura would be extremely hard to subdue. Only way you could justify it is by bargaining a power nerf through the mark. That's in character with Babidi additionally, he knew very well there was going to be danger in trying to control something far stronger than you are. He probably tries it on Dabura to get ready for Buu. Plus, he's unbound from the devil realm, so we can suppose his power is not exactly available in full. And my other guess is, he doesn't even want to fight for Babidi, nor has he any grudge against Gohan, he's just obeying and having fun, most likely. At the end of the day, we don't really know. That being said, if they were to explore the demon realm in the future, in order to keep up with the Z-warriors, they would need to justify a leveling up of the demons. And that explanation would do it. Demons are only as strong as their summoner can handle. Except in the demon realm. Now, what could bring one of our dear Z-warriors to visit the demon realm ?

[@TeezyK]

Meaning if Cell came back at the time, he would've got his get back

[@derekclawson5707]

No one seems to still understand exactly how monstrous in power an enraged ssj2 12 year old Gohan was. Neither Vegeta nor Goku after SEVEN years of training caught up to that power as ssj2 themselves. Enraged Gohan is comparable to Majin Buu and ssj3 Goku as just ssj2. Gohan did not lose power, he simply lose his ability to cut loose. He couldn't even get enraged for Buutenks 💀 If he didn't lose that ability and actually kept up with the training he would kill Majin Buu and probably even kid Buu.

[@levelearthrealist7132]

I think he was equal to or slight stronger than Super Perfect Cell.

[@shoken4421]

If it's one thing you can trust Goku ,scuse me kakarot on its his intuition on someone's power level he said dabura was as strong as cell but dabura got folded like an omelette by fat Buu . So I'd say he's around super Saiyan two level . Not Gohan ss2 more like Goku ss2

[@DSan-kl2yc]

In my mind I also just look at it like perfect cell to Super perfect. But Dabura does surpass Cell as the fight goes on.

[@exia7777]

So how strong is towa at this time I guess it makes sense for him to be this strong considering he's good Counter parts aren't insanely powerful So i can assume the other demons at the time of Z weren't crazy powerful

[@TrappyJenkins]

I dont know that Supreme Kai is ssj2 level, he was shocked by everyone's power level

[@Diemondbakk]

My guess before watching somewhere around the androids maybe 16

[@derekclawson5707]

Even after Majin Vegeta was still nowhere close to the level of the Gohan who killed Cell and neither was Goku. It took Goku ssj3 to get to that level. I know people are going to point out that SPC damaged an arm .. the blast multiplier above normal allowed it and it was really and truly a cheap shot. Otherwise he couldn't have done it. Everyone should know by now just because you are weaker than someone in base without a chi blast doesn't mean the chi blast isn't more potent than the user's base power. Piccolo and Goku scared Raditz with their multipliers. Tien did better at holding back Semi Perfect Cell than Piccolo did facing Imperfect Cell. Nowhere does it specifically state how much of a multiplier Cells' blast was but it only bruised pretty much.

[@michaelwilliamson7590]

Dabura is the king of the HFIL!!! Why isn't he on DBZ abridged?!?!

[@arrownoir]

Was strong enough to spread super perfect cell’s thorax.

[@kingdoge69]

How strong is giant cicada cell?🤔😂

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

Huh didn't Prefect Cell lose his right arm to Super Vegeta

[@rheem5794]

No. What fight were you watching? He got blasted and was distracted. That's it. Vegeta barely made a dent on him but it was more than what the other Z fighters could do.

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

@@rheem5794 dude are you high Perfect Cell watched Super Vegeta charged up his Final Flash, not distracted at all, and you're wrong again, Goku's warp Kamehameha did damage, and ssj2 Gohan was making his lose like and cough up 18

[@penksglid7475]

No but semi perfect cell lost an arm during the fight with super vegeta

[@justinarzola4584]

​@@penksglid7475no it was perfect cell who got his arm blown off,did you even watch the show?

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

@@penksglid7475 Smei-Pefect Cell was being buried by Tienshinhan

[@JackmcCoy1933]

I'm not sure Dabura even with an equal power level with Gohan can deflect a fully charge Kamehameha, he got to be way above Gohan in order to deflect it.