How STRONG was Jay Cutler Vs Ronnie Coleman?

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@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
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@giuseppelucido5780
@giuseppelucido5780 3 жыл бұрын
IN THE NEXT VIDEO JAY CUTLER VS KEVIN LEVRONE🦵💪👌
@Pantelifts10
@Pantelifts10 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do Marcus ruhl vs someone. Should be able to find videos of him with basic exercises. He was extremely strong on shoulders but a lot of Smith machine too. Lots of people will appreciate it I think
@am_faithandfitness
@am_faithandfitness 3 жыл бұрын
What about Ronnie Coleman vs the late Dallas McCarver?
@damiano7612
@damiano7612 3 жыл бұрын
These comparisons are brilliant! Getting better all the time 👍
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
@@damiano7612 Thanks Damiano
@antoniocenteno1483
@antoniocenteno1483 3 жыл бұрын
Of course Ronnie would win, he was lifting LIGHTWEIGHT
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing but a peanut!.....Yeah buddy!
@newbeginning3571
@newbeginning3571 3 жыл бұрын
🤡
@EmErToN83
@EmErToN83 3 жыл бұрын
Time to bleed!
@MikeBarbarossa
@MikeBarbarossa 3 жыл бұрын
Wiat.. if the weights were lightweight, this means he loses
@sirRustyiron
@sirRustyiron 3 жыл бұрын
@@MikeBarbarossa he is referring to ronnie's signature line that he shouts when he lifts "lightweight baby"
@ash_classicphysique
@ash_classicphysique 3 жыл бұрын
Jay cutler and Phil Heath trained really smart with great form majority of time hence their longevity
@chrisdall9783
@chrisdall9783 3 жыл бұрын
Take notes younger stud. Chronic pain is not worth the extra gym cred. Train smart, train long.
@ash_classicphysique
@ash_classicphysique 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisdall9783 agree totally, I’ve been training 15 years now so I know my body pretty well now.
@jondoc7525
@jondoc7525 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes that isn’t the best tho
@vdveenusa
@vdveenusa 3 жыл бұрын
Ronny pushed it too far, jay pushed it just perfect
@CJFranciss
@CJFranciss 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Look at the difference between them now. Jay looks incredible. Ronnie is a cripple
@tohhhype2043
@tohhhype2043 3 жыл бұрын
@@CJFranciss ronnie is in bad shape because of surgey he needed back when he was powerlifting he said he was doing perfectly fine after retirement but when he got his first surgey it went down hill for him so it wasnt the weights
@nialldiegorandallcarrera4886
@nialldiegorandallcarrera4886 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the weights that broke his back lol. He slipped disks from squatting and deadlifting too much abs continued to lift excessive weights.
@tohhhype2043
@tohhhype2043 3 жыл бұрын
@@nialldiegorandallcarrera4886 he literally debunks this in a interview
@hansoloburger2322
@hansoloburger2322 3 жыл бұрын
@@tohhhype2043 I’m not disagreeing but if you’re doing perfectly fine you don’t need surgery
@Pantelifts10
@Pantelifts10 3 жыл бұрын
Never thought I'll see this comparison lol. I believe Jay was pretty strong for a bodybuilder If you think that he was doing very high volume and short rest usually (60seconds max as per his words). Bodywise I liked him more in 2001 compared to Ronnie.
@throwmariokart
@throwmariokart 3 жыл бұрын
Also he mentioned he never really had a spot so he didn't want to go as heavy
@Asiansxsymbol
@Asiansxsymbol 3 жыл бұрын
Ronnie was undoubtedly and considerably stronger. He was a powerlifter before being a bb.
@gabbeskillz6262
@gabbeskillz6262 3 жыл бұрын
@J. Z. you clearly know nothing about bodybuilding if you think that.
@leonardomoore1868
@leonardomoore1868 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabbeskillz6262 thank u ! Dude is a idiot for those comments.
@Brian_Saginashvili_
@Brian_Saginashvili_ 3 жыл бұрын
@J. Z. Ugly face? Did you say this while looking deeply into the mirror crying?
@jacaranda777
@jacaranda777 3 жыл бұрын
Ronnie started out in high school as a power lifter, so Ronnies body was acclamated to heavier weights. Both were awesome and icons in the sport of bodybuilding
@Van1018s
@Van1018s 3 жыл бұрын
Their training styles were so much different this is impossible to say. Jay has always trained “lighter” and reps. Ronnie was typically heavy. Jay still trains the same right now and is still huge and healthy. We all know where Ronnie’s at now. Jay uses a better range of motion and better control on almost everything. Ronnie is the master of the “half rep”. I’d pick jays training style and physique any day. Best 2 BB ever regardless.
@Tommyblueeyes
@Tommyblueeyes 2 жыл бұрын
Ronnie is 10 years older than Jay for a start..but yes I like Jay's training style much better..It's bodybuilding not powerlifting
@fishpancakes284
@fishpancakes284 2 жыл бұрын
Jay Cutler is not healthy.
@Van1018s
@Van1018s 2 жыл бұрын
@@fishpancakes284 I’ve literally been in the same gym with him training in Las Vegas. Talked to him many times. He is the nicest guy you’ll ever meet, and he’s very healthy. About 40lbs down from when he competed.
@fishpancakes284
@fishpancakes284 2 жыл бұрын
@@Van1018s Jay Cutler is an Mr Olympia level bodybuilder, yet the amount of steroids and other substances you have to abuse to be even a decent bodybuilder is high, Jay has been on steroids for at least three decades. His high drug usage combined with how long he has been using is absolutely not healthy, not to mention he has maintained a very large body size which has no doubt put lots of pressure on his cardiovascular system. The bodybuilding lifestyle (high drug usage, eating very large amounts of food, maintains a high body size) is simply not healthy, steroids are not safe, some of these substances aren’t even approved for human usage, much less at the dosages bodybuilders are using them. Accelerated ageing and organ damage are very common among long time steroid users such as Jay. Maybe Jay is healthier when compared to other bodybuilders but it is incorrect to say that a lifetime of steroid usage and bodybuilding is healthy. Even is he has dropped down in size, that still does not erase thirty years of steroid usage (not to mention he is definitely still on steroids).
@Van1018s
@Van1018s 2 жыл бұрын
@@fishpancakes284 i fully understand everything you’re saying. I’m not new to this. I’m 2 years older than Jay. Been training for 26 years. I can tell you for absolute sure he is healthier than 98% of Americans. To me that’s healthy.
@Nirsterkur
@Nirsterkur 3 жыл бұрын
Holy guacamole! Now only I realized my comment! That's a wonderful experience Strength Universe! You brought so much happiness to me! ❤️ And it gave me a sense that we all are a one big community! 😍
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
You missed it before buddy LOL. Thanks so much for your support over the past few months!
@Nirsterkur
@Nirsterkur 3 жыл бұрын
@@StrengthUniverse I must have momentarily got distracted by something in that particular few seconds the very first time I watched it. 🙂 I'm a loyal fan of your channel which puts a lot of research, time and effort for every video. Also the unique narrative accent! Wanting the channel to grow and be mainstream to a much larger community. Also waiting to celebrate 50k subscribers, which is around the corner!
@Asiansxsymbol
@Asiansxsymbol 3 жыл бұрын
Both strong, but Ronnie was on a different level. He was a powerlifter before being a bb.
@danyv8207
@danyv8207 3 жыл бұрын
Ronnie love weight and moves but Jay is more loving technic and moves he does very pretties weightlifting moves too
@artificialhuman9115
@artificialhuman9115 3 жыл бұрын
@@danyv8207 Yeah, and Jay can still workout and push some desent heavy weight
@danyv8207
@danyv8207 3 жыл бұрын
@@artificialhuman9115 yes it's maybe cause he was loving technic lol, but Ronnie loved also technics but maybe he was exaggerating on weight or steroids, I followed Jay on muscle and fitness, but not on KZbin it's why I say that
@artificialhuman9115
@artificialhuman9115 3 жыл бұрын
@@danyv8207 Okey 😎
@MonsterFishKeepersPH
@MonsterFishKeepersPH 3 жыл бұрын
I am sure that only a few knows this but back when jay was still not hitting the weights, he was able to bench 315 on his very first try.
@subjectandpredicate7172
@subjectandpredicate7172 3 жыл бұрын
Always a good vid on this channel
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
thank you. I appreciate that!
@gabbeskillz6262
@gabbeskillz6262 3 жыл бұрын
Do Martins Licis Vs Tom Stoltman.
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
soon
@TIGERSDFW
@TIGERSDFW 3 жыл бұрын
Martins is a jackal and hide. I don't know where he finds the motor during competitions. He certainly doesn't have umbelieveable strengrh between competitions.
@gabbeskillz6262
@gabbeskillz6262 3 жыл бұрын
@@TIGERSDFW Martins is simply a master at peaking.
@olliecraig6502
@olliecraig6502 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video again mate. It would be great to see a video with Jerry Pritchett in as I haven't seen many with him. Many thanks bud.
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Ollie, thanks for the Suggestion. I definitely need to make a vid on Jerry
@zoy13
@zoy13 3 жыл бұрын
I'm enjoying this channel and specially the background music
@goldenstatewarriors623
@goldenstatewarriors623 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it
@bouncycastle955
@bouncycastle955 2 жыл бұрын
"It's hard to tell if he's receiving assistance from this 90 lb woman" lol
@jamesjin9574
@jamesjin9574 3 жыл бұрын
The training styles are very different. Jay Cutler has gone on to say that he has never trained to failure. He pretty much chases after the pump, not trying to test what weight he can do, and generally aims for the 8-12 rep range. Meanwhile, Ronnie is pretty much a powerlifter. He is far more willing to push the boundaries of his strength and to train to failure. I don't think Jay could be stronger, but the gap is likely closer than it seems based off of these comparisons.
@Nirsterkur
@Nirsterkur 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say Ronnie was BOTH a Bodybuilder and a Powerlifter-Bodybuilder. He very often did more than 15 reps for many exercises.
@PBRF77
@PBRF77 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. We're watching Ronnie show what he can throw around. he was super strong no one can say he wasnt. But this is just the equivalent of 70s-90s photoshoots for muscle magazines. Sadly guess which one has had his hips replaced. Cmon channel you can do better
@kooroshrostami27
@kooroshrostami27 3 жыл бұрын
Ronnie is not a powerlifter, if he'd been trying to be a powerlifter he wouldn't be a record holder for Olympia wins. He's a bodybuilder who is casually as strong as a powerlifter, which makes his feats even more impressive.
@pyranitar
@pyranitar 3 жыл бұрын
I swear whenever Ronnie yells lightweight the weight actually gets like 10% lighter.
@francogarcia6355
@francogarcia6355 3 жыл бұрын
Jay still look good these days and ronnie... well.
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, true. Ronnie really took it to the max but I guess that's what great champions do
@alienware4427
@alienware4427 3 жыл бұрын
@@StrengthUniverse The name The king doesn't come without dedication
@CanaleAV
@CanaleAV 3 жыл бұрын
@@alienware4427 He could have still become king even if he trained a little smarter.
@alienware4427
@alienware4427 3 жыл бұрын
@@CanaleAV no way..Ronnie was a power lifter so we all go lightweight beibby..90kgs dumbbells
@CanaleAV
@CanaleAV 3 жыл бұрын
@@alienware4427 Arnold was a powerlifter too, and as this video shows his numbers were top notch for the time I competed. It's no secret that, unfortunately, Ronnie's training regimen was one of the major causes of his cronic bad health, while many other successful bodybuilders have a much smarter approach to weights and gear.
@Boddah.
@Boddah. 3 жыл бұрын
I'm re-typing this because YT deleted my comment. _"Cover Greg Kovacs or Akim Williams, I remember Akim winning a lifting challenge against Larry Wheels, the video of it is on Dave Palumbo's channel"_
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
Akim is definitely coming. Re Greg, I really want to and will make a video on him but there is such limited footage of him, it's tricky
@springhillfitness6837
@springhillfitness6837 3 жыл бұрын
Most people don't know that Jay is very gifted for strength, just didn't train for it as a bodybuilder. In high school he benched 315 the first time he tried and by 19 was benching 500 and squatting 700.Then began volume training.
@alishabanks5697
@alishabanks5697 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 don't believe everything people say pet.
@Huguettechad828
@Huguettechad828 3 жыл бұрын
Ain't no way you believe he was benching 315 for his first time
@JesusChrist-fz7pj
@JesusChrist-fz7pj 3 жыл бұрын
Idk where you heard a college guy at 5’10 doing 315 pounds on bench
@SweetPappyJones
@SweetPappyJones 3 жыл бұрын
@@JesusChrist-fz7pj had kids in my high school putting up those numbers. Might’ve been some sauce involved though 🧐
@brandonhoover2120
@brandonhoover2120 3 жыл бұрын
I benched 285 for the first time in high school. More friend benched 405 for the first time in high school. Man, come to think of it, everybody was a bench god back in high school.
@92rednotch
@92rednotch 2 жыл бұрын
The idea that the ROM these guys use is short isn't the best assessment. That "short" ROM keeps constant tension on the muscle and is actually more challenging.
@damienthomas3699
@damienthomas3699 3 жыл бұрын
A video comparing Eddie Hall and Graham Hicks's static strength would be awesome!
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
@kingaddyy6381
@kingaddyy6381 3 жыл бұрын
First! ( I think) Great video as always
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
You win! 😁
@marthamryglod291
@marthamryglod291 3 жыл бұрын
I'd rather be a champion with fewer titles and still have mobility for the remainder of my life
@brandonhoover2120
@brandonhoover2120 3 жыл бұрын
You saying that doesn’t matter when you’re not actually in the position.
@Van1018s
@Van1018s 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen Jay in the gym within the last 2 weeks. He is still 265 and ripped and strong as hell, and most importantly healthy. Look at where Ronnie is right now. He looks like he’s 80 and getting ready to die. I love Ronnie. Huge inspiration to be the best you can be, but he pushed it way too far to be what 5% better than Jay for 4-5 years?
@kimboslicefan78
@kimboslicefan78 3 жыл бұрын
jay even mentions that he was in awe of ronnie's strength. Both are strong guys, but Coleman is a genetic freak
@cenkeringünlügü
@cenkeringünlügü 3 жыл бұрын
Blacks aren't strong but fast. His gens weren't incredible. There are buncha stong whites who are powerful than his. Plus, he got pl background.
@friendlyguy40
@friendlyguy40 3 жыл бұрын
@@cenkeringünlügü Black people have a higher bone density than white. I.e there bones are stronger and heavier. Also in terms of natural explosive strength and power I would say blacks are gifted. Whites are gifted at swimming and dominate all water sports. Our environments shape our traits.
@friendlyguy40
@friendlyguy40 3 жыл бұрын
@@cenkeringünlügü the bench world record is held by a black man Julius Maddox. Also squat record is held by black man Ray Williams. Hardest recorded punch is held by Francis ngannu also black. Don’t forget the power of Mike Tyson, George foreman ect. Also Larry wheels is half black ect
@cenkeringünlügü
@cenkeringünlügü 3 жыл бұрын
@@friendlyguy40 LOL this requires technique. Almost all strongmen are White. Thor and Eddie are Germanic. Deadlift, axle, tire etc. records are hold by Whites. Recent olimpic 100m winner is half Black and İtalian.
@Kurtofon
@Kurtofon 3 жыл бұрын
@@cenkeringünlügü wtf Are you on about he had probably 1 in a million genetics in power there Are people stronger than him yes absolutely, but he had good genetics regardless.
@hv9356
@hv9356 3 жыл бұрын
Jay lifted to gain muscle and now in the end he is able to continue... Ronnie was powerlifting and putting his body at risk while dieting down.
@ebear4015
@ebear4015 3 жыл бұрын
Ronnie wins out outside of shoulder press on DB. Ronnie is in hybrid shoulder upper chest movement with an arched back seeing his hips are off the back plate and the angle of press. Jay was more straight up position back against the seat. Both are incredibly strong.
@WJHandyDad
@WJHandyDad 3 ай бұрын
2:25 I don't think too many folks realize just how much more difficult it is to lift with that slower cadence
@rudolphbarton
@rudolphbarton 3 жыл бұрын
With respect to Ronnie, he destroyed his body by going super duper heavy. Jay wasn't as strong but probably thought about his future self as well.
@ibrahimsyal
@ibrahimsyal 2 жыл бұрын
Bless Ronnie Coleman's heart and soul Ameen SumaAmeen ♥️🤲. However, Ronnie Coleman trained impulsively, both worked hard, but Jay trained SMART - WORKED HARD BUT RATIONALLY trained in the right direction. Unfortunately, Ronnie did achieve feats without even being a professional powerlifter (Amateur powerlifting is different) but destroyed his body and well-being. Ibrahim Syal
@mjojco
@mjojco 3 жыл бұрын
Let's cut to the chase. Ronnie vs any other pro bodybuilder from the past is always Ronnie for the win.
@mattishii808
@mattishii808 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to compare Ronnie with Ian Valliere or the late Luke Sandoe (R.I.P.). I have seen a video of Ian incline barbell pressing 495 lbs with no wrist wraps, elbow sleeves or belt. I’ve also seen Luke bench 220 lb dumbbells for reps. This was a great video though!
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt, I think you will be interested in some other comparisons I've made with Ronnie that are coming out over the next 3 weeks
@jansnauwaert1785
@jansnauwaert1785 Жыл бұрын
I am far from an expert, but it seems that Ronnie was indeed the strongest body builder of all times.
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse Жыл бұрын
He was up there but technically Stan Efferding and Kyle Kirvay are stronger (both IFBB Pros) and also Larry Wheels but Larry never won a Pro card.
@funxd8325
@funxd8325 3 жыл бұрын
This is great comparison as both have almost same arena and both are bodybuilerr ♡♡♡
@victorvb891
@victorvb891 3 жыл бұрын
Marcus Ruhl vs Ronnie Coleman Jay Cutler vs Phil Heath Brian Shaw vs Hafthor
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Victor. I've made Markus V Ronnie. I will release it in soon
@tuahahussain9176
@tuahahussain9176 3 жыл бұрын
Notice how Jay never pushed to failure and always left it at about RPE 7-8. Would be great to know how far he could've pushed himself. Certainly very strong with good form especially on the heck squat.
@shayaka5492
@shayaka5492 3 жыл бұрын
Two legends
@SuperhumanUnchained
@SuperhumanUnchained 3 жыл бұрын
I think Jay was very strong but Ronnie Coleman was a total beast freak of strength and power
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, yeah Ronnie was something else.
@SuperhumanUnchained
@SuperhumanUnchained 3 жыл бұрын
@@StrengthUniverse for sure johnny Jackson and Markus Ruhl is next to him when it comes to bodybuilder's with strength
@benwagner8993
@benwagner8993 3 жыл бұрын
I get jay trained with better form but ronnie admittedly only did crazy heavy lifts when the cameras were on he usually was around 10 to 12 for prep
@yash2849
@yash2849 2 жыл бұрын
Ronnie n Jay both r strong awsome guys..both work hard like hell but Jay know how to train smart meanwhile Ronnie the GOAT gave whatever he has to be legendary.
@lanagorgeous9485
@lanagorgeous9485 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO, When I saw the name I thought it was the lazy one time Chicago Bears Quarterback making a comeback as a motivated weight lifter. :)
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@derekrushe
@derekrushe 3 жыл бұрын
Jay's form is basically perfect and has to be taken into consideration
@thetractorlegacy7477
@thetractorlegacy7477 3 жыл бұрын
Once ronnie said Yeah Buddy it was game over lol.
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@molasorrosalom4846
@molasorrosalom4846 3 жыл бұрын
Ronnie may have been stronger, but Jay is able to walk, he's probably pain free for the most part, except for some minor aches and pain, and he's still working out.
@mxdmxngo3573
@mxdmxngo3573 3 жыл бұрын
Hes also not called "The King"
@alienware4427
@alienware4427 3 жыл бұрын
@@mxdmxngo3573 Facts..Being calleda king must come with dedication
@LVZKV
@LVZKV 3 жыл бұрын
you gotta do something about the mic quality otherwise great vid
@kwomatsu
@kwomatsu 3 жыл бұрын
If he counts as a Bodybuilder (he has competed but not often) then Terry Hollands could be considered the strongest. But doesn't sound too fair since he was mostly a Strongman
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
Nice suggestion although Big Tell only competed once (I believe) and during that time he lost a huge amount of strength. I'll have to see, maybe closer than we think.
@TIGERSDFW
@TIGERSDFW 3 жыл бұрын
@@StrengthUniverse if you think that ronnie coleman was stronger than Terry Hollands. Well, you are wrong. Though finding any videos of ronnie doing any strongman work may be hard to find. I look forward to your findings.,
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't say Ronnie was stronger, I said during the time he competed in bodybuilding he lost a lot of strength and the comparison at that time maybe closer then we think
@nicoconcepcion1027
@nicoconcepcion1027 3 жыл бұрын
Ronnie is simply at a whole nother level, though you could still make the arguement on the form he used for some lifts. He probably did them on purpose, with the intention of training "bodybuilder-style," but if he wanted to, he would've smoked even heavier weights with "full ROM," but probably with less reps. Jay is no slouch though, he's very strong in his own right. I think people sleep on his strength as a non-strength athlete a little too much.
@andrewwade4571
@andrewwade4571 3 жыл бұрын
My only problem with this is that ronnie said specifically that he was a power lifter so although yes he's a bodybuilder he worked out like a power lifter where as Jay worked out as a bodybuilder so obviously ronnie is going to beat him in most things
@Hugh.G.Rectionx
@Hugh.G.Rectionx 2 жыл бұрын
bet i could drink more beer than ronnie
@gitsurfer27
@gitsurfer27 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with these is we don't know where they are in their workout, one could be 2 hours in dropping the weight while the other is fresh keeping the weight at max.
@alllivesdomatter2298
@alllivesdomatter2298 3 жыл бұрын
Jay admits in several clips that no one was pushing weight like Ronnie.
@bruno_toxic7631
@bruno_toxic7631 2 жыл бұрын
That lockout on hacksquat hurts so much to watch
@Indian92000
@Indian92000 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a question of international Importance
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@Indian92000
@Indian92000 3 жыл бұрын
I am on Jay side because he has fully ripped chest unlike Ronnie who got rounded chest
@giuseppelucido5780
@giuseppelucido5780 3 жыл бұрын
IN THE NEXT VIDEO JAY CUTLER VS KEVIN LEVRONE PLEASE🙏
@M_Erceg_
@M_Erceg_ 2 жыл бұрын
Legende💪👏
@PrakharRSingh
@PrakharRSingh 3 жыл бұрын
Cutler used to "look" amazing and more massive as compared to Ron. Ronnie Coleman was just about the mass but didn't use to look that good with that big gut and partition in his linea album.
@Nirsterkur
@Nirsterkur 3 жыл бұрын
Jay is strong but the GOAT is too much for anyone when it comes to Brute Strength. *Edit after 2 weeks: Holy guacamole! Now only I realized my comment at the beginning! That's a wonderful experience Strength Universe! You brought so much happiness to me! ❤️ And it gave me a sense that we all are a one big community! 😍
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Buddy. I agree, Jay's got a couple of good lifts but there's only one king
@Nirsterkur
@Nirsterkur 3 жыл бұрын
@@StrengthUniverse Thank you again Strength Universe. Yes, you answered that doubt perfectly and Jay does belong with Markus, Kevin and Dorian. 💪🏻🙂 I also specially respect Jay's courage and perseverance for never giving up, specially after coming 2nd to Ronnie 4 times!
@kirayoshikage8007
@kirayoshikage8007 3 жыл бұрын
Yo be Fair Jay has never really lifted to just lift heavy he mainly lifts for hypertrophy
@helmamut3970
@helmamut3970 3 жыл бұрын
Voice so chill
@wooowlaa529
@wooowlaa529 3 жыл бұрын
This guy's voice is kinda soothing
@PCGonline
@PCGonline 3 жыл бұрын
how strong was Jason Genova vs Craig Titus next please
@siulau7498
@siulau7498 3 жыл бұрын
Would be a much closer comparison when adjusting strength to their body weights
@MikeBarbarossa
@MikeBarbarossa 3 жыл бұрын
Jay trained strict hypertrophy, while Ronnie was known for using big weights
@kris985
@kris985 3 жыл бұрын
On incline bench press, there is a video on KZbin of jay doing 405 for 12 clean reps in Iceland, I think that would’ve been a fairer comparison
@gummixx6885
@gummixx6885 3 жыл бұрын
thats my gym. I watched that video and the weight is only 110kg or 242 lbs. There are 3 yellow plates and 1 blue on each side. Yellow are 10kg , blue are 15kg (and red are 20kg in that gym)
@newbeginning3571
@newbeginning3571 3 жыл бұрын
@@gummixx6885 wrong video there is one where all the plates are black
@gummixx6885
@gummixx6885 3 жыл бұрын
@@newbeginning3571 no. watch it again, the handles are colored.
@Pantelifts10
@Pantelifts10 3 жыл бұрын
Those plates where not all 45lbs. That's the thing. Nobody knows for sure how much was it but definitely not 405
@newbeginning3571
@newbeginning3571 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pantelifts10 if you say so but your wrong of course it's 405 like he would fake shit get real man it's jay cutler your acting like 405 is some big deal
@am_faithandfitness
@am_faithandfitness 3 жыл бұрын
What about Ronnie Coleman vs the late Dallas McCarver?
@Boddah.
@Boddah. 3 жыл бұрын
Stan is the strongest bber, tho Ronnie is without doubt the strongest Mr. O
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
He is but slightly different as Stan was focused on Powerlifting at the time of his best lifts
@JGreen444
@JGreen444 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t Larry wheels stronger than Stan efferding?
@CanaleAV
@CanaleAV 3 жыл бұрын
@@JGreen444 Larry ain't no pro bodybuilder.
@JGreen444
@JGreen444 3 жыл бұрын
@@CanaleAV he has competed in a show before
@charliefrancis6438
@charliefrancis6438 2 жыл бұрын
Who’s in better shape now , lifting super heavy has it’s drawbacks later in life , more volume with better form and less weight is better for the long run
@pointman7213
@pointman7213 3 жыл бұрын
Do greg kovacs vs ronnie coleman. Kovacs was a beast in the gym.
@BeyondtheTherapyDoor
@BeyondtheTherapyDoor 3 жыл бұрын
How about Ronnie vs James hollingshed? He’s really strong too
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, could be a good one
@BeyondtheTherapyDoor
@BeyondtheTherapyDoor 3 жыл бұрын
@@StrengthUniverse you're welcome
@stephanM5
@stephanM5 Жыл бұрын
That ridiculously heavy weight that Ronnie Coleman was pushing completely destroyed his skeleton. Just because you can chemically amp up the strength of the muscles way beyond what is natural it doesn't mean the joints can withstand the sheer forces they are subjected to by continuously lifting tremendous weight the body was not designed to do. Ronnie Coleman ignored that natural fact and is now paying a very high price. When you calculate the pounds per square inch placed on the ligaments, tendons and cartilage of the small joints of the knees, elbows, shoulders and spine its a miracle that he lasted as long as he did. I can only imagine the constant excruciating pain he suffered in the latter years of his bodybuilding career. Greg Kovacs was always considered the strongest bodybuilder in modern times.
@fishingmoose8976
@fishingmoose8976 2 жыл бұрын
Jay Cutler did like 10 reps of 405 on incline lol, not just 5
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 2 жыл бұрын
I think you are referring to the video in Iceland where he did 12 reps, although that was not 405, it was 2 x 20kg and 6 x 15kg plates plus the bar = 150kg or 330lbs😂
@leart78
@leart78 2 жыл бұрын
jay trained smart, just the amount he needed for hypertrophy. what Ronnie did was stupid but pretty sure he was aware of that
@petersonoliveira8496
@petersonoliveira8496 3 жыл бұрын
Boa tarde congrats Jay Cutler 47 anos e Ronnie 56 anos ex-bodybuing movtivation e ex-Olympia campeão 🏆🏅🇺🇸💪🏿👌🏿✨😮 bom trabalho
@oremilosavljevic309
@oremilosavljevic309 2 жыл бұрын
Literally 2 bodybuilding icons
@erikrunas226
@erikrunas226 3 жыл бұрын
Have you done Ronnie Coleman vs Eddie Hall?? I know they're not in the same discipline but they are both very strong.
@jassimkalander5318
@jassimkalander5318 2 жыл бұрын
Please do Ronnie and Arnold
@williamcorum6867
@williamcorum6867 Жыл бұрын
Ronnie was much stronger however, i do recall many times jay would say he only had a 60 second rest timer in between his sets. While i dont know how long ronnie took, its still impressive they put up that amount of weight. I think jay could be in the top 5 strongest pro body builders
@giovanninicolas4058
@giovanninicolas4058 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the song please
@eyedea81
@eyedea81 3 жыл бұрын
Ronnie on the hack squat was making it look too easy
@adbramsay
@adbramsay 3 жыл бұрын
Ronnie vs Dallas Mcarver
@qrockz007
@qrockz007 3 жыл бұрын
marcus rühl plz
@T_v_powerlifting
@T_v_powerlifting 3 жыл бұрын
What about Squats???
@luigirnotyourbusiness8127
@luigirnotyourbusiness8127 2 жыл бұрын
Jay Cutler was at the most 5'9", nowadays he may be 5'7". Ronnie was 5'11" nowadays he might be 5'8"
@charlieweislastbeltloop7804
@charlieweislastbeltloop7804 3 жыл бұрын
Markus Ruhl vs Ronnie would be interesting
@PessimisticNic
@PessimisticNic 3 жыл бұрын
Jay could have been getting assistance on his hack squats, if you watch the spotter has his hand on the hack squat
@jorgevega2216
@jorgevega2216 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a video of Jay doing 405 on incline for 12
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
That wasn't 405, it was 333lbs
@jorgevega2216
@jorgevega2216 3 жыл бұрын
@@StrengthUniverse no, that Was 405 45x9 = 405
@jorgevega2216
@jorgevega2216 3 жыл бұрын
Jay Cutler training in Iceland making the weights look light. Is what the title is.
@rosco92
@rosco92 2 жыл бұрын
Ronnie's front squat.. wins over all lifts
@mikebb1000
@mikebb1000 2 жыл бұрын
Jay never was a guy that lifted super heavy, he definitely could have but chose not to
@larrytate1657
@larrytate1657 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why he’s winning post career now.
@jenthomas345
@jenthomas345 2 жыл бұрын
The goat King Ron Coleman
@BWBParmwrestling
@BWBParmwrestling 3 жыл бұрын
Ronnie Coleman vs Joe Mackey... I think that will be interesting
@mattcarpenter6986
@mattcarpenter6986 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure cutler is 5ft 8 not 5 ft 10. Some of Jay's videos are taken from his dvd new improved and beyond where he states because of his training cycle and dieting he's not lifting his heaviest weights so this isn't a completely fair comparison.
@Itsme-xu5ck
@Itsme-xu5ck Жыл бұрын
I found a video where jay did 12 reps with 405 on incline bench so these were not his max reps he could have done way more but he played it safe with better rom
@StrengthUniverse
@StrengthUniverse Жыл бұрын
That wasn't 405, it was 330lbs......Everyone sees 4 wheels and assumes they are 45s, they were not
@Itsme-xu5ck
@Itsme-xu5ck Жыл бұрын
@@StrengthUniverse kk 👍🏻
@tonymoney1579
@tonymoney1579 3 жыл бұрын
How strong was Markus Ruehl with coleman?
@peternagy-gyor506
@peternagy-gyor506 2 жыл бұрын
Ronnie is undoubtedly stronger since he was heavier, he did powerlifting before, also with those heavy weights he oushed the limits too far. Meanwhile Jay was more concentrated, detailed and his muscles were also cleaner in visual, like his quads.
@dantacorda8341
@dantacorda8341 3 жыл бұрын
Kyle Kirvay vs Larrywheels make it happen 🙏🙏
@maximus8119
@maximus8119 3 жыл бұрын
James hollingshead is freaky strong not sure if you’ve done a video on him but might be cool to compare him to like an ian vallier or nick walker pretty sure only Ian comes close tho James is nuts
@gigabateman9460
@gigabateman9460 2 жыл бұрын
Jay got him on the hack squat though, knee wraps easily add some sustantial weight. IE, ik i’m weak, but i can high bar narrow feet 435 for 3 with wraps and a belt, without any of that i can only squat 385. Idk how how much will it imoact on the hack squat but considering that they did the same weight and the difference was 3 reps then we got to give it to J. Nonetheless he still got smoked😂
@cenkeringünlügü
@cenkeringünlügü 3 жыл бұрын
Jay never goes failure and he uses machines. That's why, he still look big and much less unhealthy than his generation bodybuilder. In a nutshell, he doesn't care about weights.
@mohameddafir6134
@mohameddafir6134 3 жыл бұрын
Culter champion 💪🏆 Coleman champion 💪🏆
@Flex-lk1vu
@Flex-lk1vu 3 жыл бұрын
Jay spent a third of his career trying to beat a out of prime old Ronnie. He deserves massive respect but he has the personality of a box compared to Ronnie. Not to mention when people talk about him it’s almost always in the context of beating Ronnie showing you how much influence Ronnie actually had.
@bobboberson6664
@bobboberson6664 3 жыл бұрын
@J. Z. lol
@Flex-lk1vu
@Flex-lk1vu 3 жыл бұрын
@@fireman684 Absolutely true! All I’m saying is that Ronnie had a much bigger influence on bodybuilding compared to Jay.
@iamatlantis1
@iamatlantis1 3 жыл бұрын
Because Jay doesnt exaggerate and talk out of his ass he has the personality of a box? Lol.. at least he can still walk
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