How The ‘04 Pistons Shocked The NBA

[@envyops]

People forget how hard America cried after the Pistons spanked the Lakers. One journalist that thought the Pistons would get swept, wrote that the Pistons' style had made the game unwatchable. Really? Lots of rules changes in NBA because of successful Pistons teams.

[@alfredoladino9838]

That’s why I can’t stand the Lakers, nothing but favoritism & help from the refs and the organization and their fans still find reasons to bitch & moan. This is why the ‘04 Pistons are one of my favorite teams of all time, destroyed the Lakers that robbed my Kings from winning it all in 2002.

[@majecha]

@@alfredoladino9838Jesus Man. This is exactly how I feel about Lakers. I love some Lakers players like Shaq, Kobe, Fisher, Horry or Fox but I can’t stand the organisation and the FACT that its success is made by countless gently pushes to the back by refs, nba and easy money

[@ryan8430]

As a kid I loved watching Detroit just rough house the shit out of the league, then in 04' watched Detroit again shock the league

[@motherlesschild102]

Bulls fan-but after Pistons beat LA in 2004, all was forgiven.

[@TheFinancialFrank]

​@@alfredoladino9838 Yo, I legit cried after Game 6 in L.A. 2002 WCF. Kobe should've been ejected w/a Flagrant 2 for breaking Mike Bibby's nose. I was upset w/Vlady Divac for slapping the ball out instead of falling on it. They were my favorite team that year 😞

[@Rich-km7pr]

I will never forget that classic 2004 Pistons team!

[@Michigan1985]

The best thing about this team is how much it pissed people off in the sports media world. They obsess over super stars and narratives surrounding those players. They all cried when Kobe and Shaq got spanked by this TEAM.

[@Hains22]

What I love about the 04 Pistons is that they don’t over celebrate like the 08 Celtics😂

[@pp-vf8ls]

hear2, they are still humble

[@KP-wt8qr]

2008 will be the last title the Celtics ever win too.

[@mc1013]

😐😂😂😂 thaaats a good one

[@ciaojay7025]

And Doc Rivers still landing jobs because of that ring. That championship run is not that amazing too.

[@andresdelportillo9917]

2016 cavs*

[@philliprhinehardt6268]

The 2004 Detroit Pistons is a classic team.

[@slimypickle19]

It's embarrassing for the NBA that they punish teams like these Pistons for playing perfect defense, but they encouraged & help boost the 7 sec or less Suns playstyle.

[@zhen86]

Easy answer, casual love scoring

[@tottymc]

Scoring brings more people, which brings more money

[@juanritanjaya6254]

Money talks man. Nobody paid to see defense

[@praveen921]

While I agree with you from the basketball side. The NBA is 1st, 5th, 10th. 1000th, millionth, billionth, trillionth, with all in between a business 😂. Basketball "purity" is not the priority at that level. There is nothing embarrassing about it or surprising from a business perspective.

[@Harasnails]

Little do people know that the 04 pistons were very underrated offensively. They had 8 players averaging close to.10 to 17 ppg. The 04 pistons could of cooked offensively if Larry Brown gave them the green light.

[@PC_Powerlifting]

And the Pistons still shock the NBA now

[@AlexisHernandez-of2ud]

It’s what they’re good at

[@melobryant3030]

lol

[@K81Patel]

Bada ting 🥁

[@hoompaloompaa]

😂😂☠️☠️

[@beatzbyreefah]

Officially worst season in Pistons franchise history

[@baldbassdude]

I'll never forget the 04 Pistons. Everyone thought it's the Laker's year and then that happened. What a feeling for all the Davids in the world.

[@17thN.O]

I was one of the few that truly thought that that Pistons squad was capable of beating the Lakers especially after they eliminated that Pacers squad in only 6 games. Reason being was I saw the historically great defense that was being played all season and even i the year before that. The only thing they was missing was inside scoring. Once they got Rasheed in the middle of the season I knew it was a wrap. If you saw how they basically locked down everybody they played after Sheed got there I knew there was no stopping them. Also hearing about the Lakers lockeroom stuff from the media (Kobe and Malone), (Kobe and Shaq), (Kobe and Phil Jackson). All that was being talked about that whole season not just after the fact. So to me the Lakers losing was no surprise. Now how one sided it was did surprise me and everybody else.

[@jeromevillanueva2207]

04 Pistons are amazing. They made it despite a horrible pick in the draft the year before.

[@JLHill91]

All the guys on the team agree that if they drafted Carmelo like they should have that they wouldn’t have won it in 04

[@MattPawlowski]

​@@JLHill91 exactly. Now, would we have won a 2-3 in the next handful of years? Maybe.

[@harderway8568]

The problem with Darko is he went to the NBA too soon and Larry Brown never really liked working with young players he needed to develop. He was only 19 at that time, thousands of miles away from home, no family or friends, no social media, completely different culture and stuck in a team that didn't really want to play him. A terrible situation for a kid. He was incredibly talented tho, but unfortunately never really made it.

[@MattPawlowski]

@@harderway8568 you don't remember the other problem? They said Darko had "baby lungs" 😂

[@misterduelog]

Man I love NBA history

[@TheMILVSCR]

One of the all-time greatest defensive teams. I'm a Suns fan, so it was nice to see the Lakers get handled the way they did.

[@michaelhernandez1841]

04 pistons was Sheed's payback against the Lakers in 2000

[@TheStatisfiedOne]

Not only 2000, but sheed lost in many playoffs against the lakers, got swept 2 out of 3 playoff meetings against them with the blazers

[@Ayanfarah-k9x]

And also 2001 and 2002

[@LamarcusMassey-eo1lp]

98,00,01,02​@@Ayanfarah-k9x

[@Theterminato2013]

@@Ayanfarah-k9xDon't forget that Shees lost to the Lakers in 1997 & 1998 in 4 games also.

[@davissae]

Seeing them punish the Lakers was so satisfying

[@ericfranklin1802]

That finals was truly an example of David fighting Goliath.

[@imfinishedgrinding638]

I love Kobe to death but damn this is definitely Kobe's worst playoff blunder rivalling that of Lebron's 2011.

[@Loganbub]

@@imfinishedgrinding638yup. The Pistons also played mind games with Kobe appealing to his ego knowing he’d play right into their hands.

[@MattPawlowski]

Blame Kobe? Nah, credit Larry Brown. His game plan was for Shaq to not be doubled, so he would keep shooting and it would piss off Kobe, who would then take bad shots when he finally did get the ball. Worked like a charm.

[@agyepongboateng9552]

This championship season needs to be studied as a lesson in what happens when you are the underdog and never give up.

[@emilekaram6094]

2011 Mavs even more

[@jdspencer60]

Watching this run was one of the most fun times in my life - group of friends around, super hyped

[@zooba1974]

Awesome video! Great job putting this together!!!

[@anthonypaterson8741]

How does footage from the 80's and 90's look clearer than 2004? 😂

[@vickpanchal5559]

Those were in film and this is when digital footage started to become mainstream

[@anthonypaterson8741]

@vickpanchal5559 makes total sense! Thanks mate.

[@alexanderadonyae7937]

That 04 Pistons squad now have 2 Hall of Famers 🔥

[@Tsukuyomi_99]

04 pistons spanked lakers soo bad NBA had to change the rules😂

[@Milo0610]

Why 04 piston not milking their ring like 08 celtics milking theirs?

[@jahimuddin2306]

Because the 04 ring speaks for itself; no superteam needed.

[@marquiswatson3014]

@@jahimuddin2306nah bro, they all was dogs. You can literally argue they were literally SCARY as a team.

[@Theterminato2013]

The 04 Pistons would have DESTROYED the 08 Celtics.

[@erics.czernecki7333]

Thing is, what was still left of the '04 Pistons *were* one of the teams that Celtics team faced... and they completely roughhoused them and, in hindsight, put the final nail in their slowly building coffin.

[@browe091]

My aunt had season tickets from 02-06 and I have so many fond memories of watching this team. Was lucky enough to be there when they won it and it was such a cool experience as a young kid. I still have my Ben Wallace fear the fro wig and will keep it till the day I die 😂.

[@MetrowavePrime]

The pistons is such a inspiration, they just cement thier glory beating the dynasty

[@Veyronp87]

literally changed the game. all time great team if you ask me

[@braddillon4311]

As a Timberwolves fan, I love this Pistons team. The 2004 was the best Wolves team in Franchise history and lost to a juggernaut Lakers team with 4 hall of famers. The Pistons just dismantled the Lakers even though they didn't have anywhere near the amount of star power the Lakers had.

[@ray101892]

That was a franchise altering draft. Based on the personel they had that time, Bosh and wade would have been redundant but melo with his midrange game would add an offensive punch to their game and the team could cover his defensive weakness too. The older guys + larry brown would kick his ass if he gets airheaded unlike in denver. He could have won a ring there early on instead of retiring ringless.

[@Obfluss.S]

Larry Brown just don’t trust rookies. Even Melo would only play ~10mpg max. And he would be asking out, creating drama and sabotaging team chemistry.

[@ImAlxxy]

The pistons don't acquire sheed if they take melo, and don't win a ring. The Darko pick in hindsight is bad, but as a player he wasn't and he had potential. He just didn't care. Once he got some money he barely cared about basketball

[@TitoBuzzGaming]

Imagine if Cavs picked Melo and Pistons picked Lebron lol

[@Loganbub]

@@ImAlxxynot sure I agree with this take. Pistons still needed a big and Melo didn’t fill that role. I think they still get Sheed but we obviously don’t know for sure. Had they taken Melo and gotten Sheed they could have won 4-5 titles considering even their last year together with Ben/Larry Brown gone for years they won 59 games and took the Celtics to 6 with an injured Chauncey.

[@likenem]

​@@ImAlxxy What team would have wanted a member of the jailblazers. When Rasheed came to Detroit the Pistons made sure that the media did not attack Rasheed. The trade for Rasheed was so lopsided that they got Lindsay Hunter back after he went to the Celtics and the Celtics released Hunter.

[@chrish8229]

20 years ago. Wow

[@lousanto1054]

I know. It seemed like yesterday. Next year, this championship well be old enough to walk into a bar or store and legally buy alcohol.😮

[@guywhopaysrent]

It's hilarious that the 04 Pistons beat a super team Lakers with Phil Jackson as coach.

[@ssminowjohnson9687]

I would not call it a super team. Malone and Gary Payton were past their prime.

[@Muscular-Tower]

​@@ssminowjohnson9687 Well. Superteam or not, with Karl Malone and Gary Payton included in the Laker's roster, that team was a VERY OVERRATED 'star-studded' squad. And (annoyingly) in the previews, we kept having to put up with the _voiceover_ announcements saying, _"And coming up next, it's the 2004 NBA Finals with the Detroit Pistons taking on the star-studded, HEAVILY FAVORED L.A. Lakers!!!"_ smh😩 So glad that after all of that hype...it was ALL DETROIT PISTONS from then on, bruh🏀👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😎👍🏼

[@motherlesschild102]

Larry Brown outcoached Phil.

[@praveen921]

This was the first season I remember.I was so shocked that anyone could whoop the Laker's ass like that. Then the next year Tim Duncan reinforced to me what 5 man basketball meant. Even in a loss, i learned so much from that Pistions squad!

[@dscwac396]

And the rule changes and a lot of them happened in the next two years to prevent defenses playing like that

[@MarvG3000]

Never forget Darko, the human victory cigar

[@HereInPapuaNewGuinea]

Thanks you having an in depth championship team. Youre best 👍

[@sdscipio]

I rooted for this team from the start of the playoffs

[@doublemintmaple]

Lots of details, yet succinct. Awesome stuff!

[@animoetprudentia2865]

They didn't just beat the Lakers, they humiliated and embarrassed them in front of the whole world.

[@josephakroush5512]

Rasheed Wallace would still be a star in today’s game. Big who can hit 3’s.

[@rogdawg123]

great video... thank you sir 👍

[@brandoalcocer1231]

I want the comparison of 2004 and 2024 Pistons

[@HeinekenGlory]

Joe Dumars talking on 2 phones 😂

[@lennchadful]

the only people that thought the pistons could win were piston fans. we watched that team break defensive records. we watched the consistent shooting. LA had senior citizens on that team. not to mention the jinx that is Malone

[@imverygerby]

And now I just have to pray that my lions can tear up the nfl script in the same way

[@imverygerby]

Welp

[@neal6473]

It seems like the 04 Detroit Pistons had made up for the 1988 Pistons, in which they should have won the championship if Isaiah Thomas had gotten hurt and the phantom foul on Bill Laimbeer.

[@sahm5071]

If we had melo, we wouldn’t have had Rasheed. We made moves to get Rasheed because of our situation.

[@DMalltheway]

Melo would’ve probably costed you that 2004 title

[@petersonofleo11]

​@@DMallthewayLarry Brown was also not good with young players so I doubt the Pistons win with Melo or Wade.

[@bcranford714]

That's what I said plus melo never played defense

[@likenem]

I think the counterpoint to this is what team would have kept Rasheed Wallace. Detroit protected Rasheed and stopped the local media from writing hit pieces about him.

[@kevintriplett6176]

The two main things that helped that Pistons team is that the Shaq and Kobe beef imploded that squad and a few key players like Malone spent a lot of time injured preventing any kind of team chemistry from forming. But the Lakers arrogance in believing that all they had to do was show up and win prevents me from feeling sorry for them at all.

[@ssminowjohnson9687]

this was also the same year Kobe had his off-the-field issue in Colorado.

[@johndebono1870]

The thing that also shocks me is that with the benefit of hindsight, the Pistons weren't that big an upset. Payton and Malone were washed, Billups had already proven he could lead a contending squad in 03 and Ben Wallace was seen as the 2nd best centre behind Shaq. It really is peak arrogance on the Lakers part to think even with all the internal problems that the Pistons wouldn't be able to even sneak in one win.

[@alexanderhenry9133]

I mean the Pistons defensive game plan literally involved taking advantage of the Kobe/Shaq beef by not doubling Shaq and letting him get his in the paint, so they could shut down the perimeter and midrange, Kobe gets jealous of Shaq scoring and starts shooting more low probability shots instead of feeding Shaq in the post. Its a smart strategy but also you need the right personnel to be able to do that. Ben Wallace was one of few guys at the time who could be reasonably effective playing Shaq 1 on 1, and they had great perimeter defenders as well.

[@RKO859]

​@alexanderhenry9133 exactly. Knowing that Kobe was trying to gun for finals MVP, they would know that Kobe would jack up a lot of low percentage shots. They do a mix of doubling and single coverage shots, because no one else can score. By dumping a lot of possessions to Shaq, Kobe would get pissed and try to force more shots.

[@Blacksun169]

I swear every time the Pistons win a ring the NBA changed the rules,

[@Blacksun169]

For the 03 pic id rather have Boss over Wade or Melo, the guy just seemed like a dude that would fit the pistons

[@LordGospelMusic]

Bad Boys Pistons version 2

[@Gnarkill1959]

Skipping the tayshaun block is a crime against humanity. Down vote this video.

[@nathanielsese2428]

Would like to see a Raptors 2019 Champs video since they’ve all been traded away…relive the memories 🥲

[@IncognitoDre]

It’s been like 5 years and bouchers still there

[@vickpanchal5559]

Wait a couple of years and youll see another championship level team. Masai and bobby are putting together a dynasty.

[@ryan8430]

How many rules did the league make up because of the pistons style of play??

[@TheCountofToulouse]

The Pistons were an actual TEAM. They played together the RIGHT way, selfless, accountable, tough and they HUSTLED, they never took a play off. They were never intimidated, they were confident but not obnoxious, not prideful. I new they were VERY dangerous and in fact, called them winning it all before the playoffs started. The Wallace duo was dynamite and served as the spring board to unleash everything else. They were also not a fluke, making deep runs in the playoffs for the next 4 years.

[@sahm5071]

Honestly anyone but darko but not too strong would’ve been great

[@sahm5071]

Best video ever

[@Ita1ionstalli0n2]

The only 5-game sweep in the NBA finals. Guarensheed.

[@emilekaram6094]

5 games sweep?? Wdym??

[@Dont-like-or-sub-81]

​@@emilekaram6094it not that they won the series in only four, it means thy lost the first game and didn't lose again.

[@sharajr]

my favourite team in any sport - ever.

[@lanilacionni9919]

They just played better defence and team work and Ben on shaq was a factor to

[@k-cx7137]

I feel like this team can defend and put up a good fight against the best of them .

[@bmaster461603]

I was 11 and remember this. Been waiting for something this epic since

[@HakeemTheDream616]

Greatest starting 5 EVER!!!! ❤🎉

[@ChristopherRJohnson]

Surprising you didn't mention the bench players which Larry Brown has been lauded as being one of the best bench teams in the finals ever Elden Campbell (especially on how he played Shaq) Corliss Williamson Darbin Ham

[@localneo-graphic4647]

Truly a tragedy that the Pistons used that pick to draft Darko, both for Darko and the Pistons. It's baffling that they even drafted him in the first, and it was inexcusable that they didn't trade him after 04, when he still had real value. You don't draft someone at number 2 and only play them 150 minutes all season, he was a project on contending team. It wasn't just bad for the Pistons, the dude needed responsibility and goals to develop as a player, but he was on a team that couldn't afford to let him do that on the court, so he turned to alcohol instead. He didn't fit their timeline and never would, so why they didn't trade the pick/him or grab an NBA ready talent like D- Wade (who was a college junior) is legitimately baffling. I don't know if Darko wouldn't have been a bust if he got drafted into a bad team, but at very least he would've gotten a chance to develop. His stock was sky high for a reason, dude was 7 feet tall and built like a tank. As for the Pistons, I don't think it's a hindsight thing to say they shouldn't have drafted an 18 yo from Europe as a team that had just finished the previous season as a 1 seed. The safe thing would have been to trade the pick for an established player, though Wade would have been a dream fit on that team, like the GOAT defensive team would have been even more GOATed, with the bucket getter they desperately needed. Aight that's enough ranting, that 04 team was damn good enough already, but they could have been a dynasty.

[@ninoquizon3508]

With the pistons ending the lakers dynasty, can there be a content/video about kawhi ending both the heat and gsw dynasties? Haha

[@cain948]

Kawhi didn't end the warriors dynasty injury is the main reason. They won championship not so long ago 😂😂

[@ninoquizon3508]

@@cain948 lol in 2017 kawhi couldve easily ended gsw with kd. what happened again? oh injury, by zaza

[@cain948]

@@ninoquizon3508 and what happen when Toronto won the championship?? Ohhh KD and Klay is injured 🤣🤣🤣

[@cain948]

@@ninoquizon3508 kawhi is not the reason for the GSW downfall.. they won championship 2 years ago casual watcher like you doesn't know anything 🤣🤣🤣

[@ninoquizon3508]

@@cain948 its a different roster tho. kd left after kawhi handled them in 2019. bandwagon fan like you doesnt know anything HAHAHA

[@GeorgeAngel-o3w]

Man the 04 pistons and the 05 pistons were tough.Had us spurs fans stressing out.I think that was are toughest finals of all time!!!We stopped there back to back championship!!!But man was it tough!Awwww memories of when we’re good!I love are team now and love wemby but pop needs to go!!!He ain’t hungry anymore and told us fans to stop booing Kawhi😅😅😅 in our own arena Lmfao!!!!Screw pop an kawhi!!!

[@solakeck]

I never knew that the picks they traded for sheed turned into Josh smith and Tony Allen… still happy they did the trade though

[@MNSportsJunkie101]

In a day and age of the NBA that is defined by high octane offense the 2024 Minnesota Timberwolves are bringing some of that defensive grit back to the league. Time will tell if they can reach the same heights the Pistons did 20 years ago.

[@lotsamacha1112]

Looking back at the actual pistons team maybe it really shouldn't have shocked anybody, there was some straight Dawgs on that squad.

[@Griemmy]

The NBA wanted the spurs to win 2005. Until now, game 7 was the saddest moment of my life as sports fan.

[@Harasnails]

The pistons would of won back to backs if they didn't make that Coleman trade for corlis williamson

[@MaikElKnight]

Exactly the right word used in the vid to describe Sheed - intimidating. He once got thrown outnof the game for ''intimidating'' the ref without saying a word.

[@DigitaIJustice]

Imagine if Detroit drafted Melo though

[@jeffreynegapatan]

and the core stayed off cam after they retired. damn.

[@zackspiker_]

Yo was that Mehmet Okur?!?!!

[@revealwhatsrealministries1251]

The greatest starting 5 and bench rotation!!! 💙❤️💙❤️

[@ZeusAmun-pt9dc]

I remember when they made it to the finals I was surprised that they made it that far and expected them to get obliterated by the super team Lakers

[@Annalyn-n5w]

I loved this game,i will never forget!

[@TheStatisfiedOne]

The reason for laker loss 1. Malone was half injured in the finals, Payton also a bit. 2. Underestimated the pistons, didn’t believe they where a worthy opponent. 3. Pistons defence is the best defence they faced so far. 4. The pistons where younger and more athletic, and actually pretty good players, Billups was a excellent floor general who could avg 18.4.6 with elite defence, B.Wallace was a defensive and rebounding juggernaut, Rasheed was a versatile stretch 4 who can score and defend, Hamilton could give you around 18-22ppg, prince was an elite perimeter defender in those early 2000’s. - Pistons had deeper bench then the lakers. - Kobe could not find his Rythm scoring and took many shots to get back his rythm, wich froze out shaq and many of his team

[@at1212b]

Kobe couldn't find rythm because of suffocating defense, long arms, more physical contact allowed by defense on offensive player without the ball, 'chucking' allowed. League panicked and made sure that wasnt allowed anymore so less contact rules implemented next year to allow perimeter players more freedom. Take away big man advantage.

[@mrgotitfordalow]

You could have saved a lot of time by just saying: pistons were the better team.

[@orlandochristopher7325]

Detroit was so much better than them as a team.

[@danielfletcher8491]

The 04 Pistons made me fall in love with basketball!

[@jeremyellismusic]

I once met Dwyane Wade in the VIP area of a festival. He was super cool. Told him I was still mad about the 2006 ECF's. And this man told me, "You SHOULD be mad about Darko." Burn. I was like, "You right, my bad." For real though, this Pistons team and DWade, OMG. Even Melo or Bosh. But DWade though, ouch.

[@noelgaynor783]

They also had the great larry brown

[@cheddarb9895]

You did not leave the block out of this.

[@donwon7592]

Darko. Darko. Darko.

[@joesakic91]

If only Rasheed Wallace stayed on Robert Horry like super glue with the Detroit Pistons up by two in OT in Game 5...

[@luisfelipehernandezlopez6834]

Would be great to make a movie about it

[@orlandochristopher7325]

They dominated a Lakers team with Kobe and Shaq... let that sink in.

[@lurking0death]

Nope! Can't have that. Have to change the rules so our brave coastal Hollywood boys win and get better TV ratings.

[@jamieking007]

OH I FORGOT and PHIL JACKSON😩

[@ron3851]

Ben Wallace wasn't the lone All-star on that team.. Rasheed was already an All-star during his Portland days

[@JoeCash89]

But he wasn't an All-Star that season. Ben was their lone All-Star during the season in question

[@benjamingoodnight1025]

I think this was a coaching marvel by the Detroit pitons. Larry completely blew the top off the lakers offense and D.

[@dr.hugostrange9719]

It was a combination of Detroit being a really good team playing at their best with the Lakers being a terrible team and completely falling apart. It's simple. In hindsight it's surprising that none of the west opponents were able to take out the Lakers before the finals

[@DeeJayyy624]

This was a good time to be alive in the city

[@doloresgaon-jl5sw]

The heart and soul of Detroit Pistons: Ben Wallace.

[@joesakic91]

You also forgot Naismith Memorial Hall of Famer Ben Wallace.

[@tayprime59]

Ben Wallace Was The Only Pistons All Star That Year ? Wow This Team Was Really Terrifying They Defense Was Unmatched Hold Team To 60 & Going 5 Straight Games Holding Teams Under 70 💯

[@jeo8998]

Imagine if the had picked up melo? 🤦🏻 this team would have been deadly ☠️

[@TheStatisfiedOne]

the most statistying finals ever. The big bad lakers against the heavily underdogs pistons

[@Teachingcasuals]

Defense beats offense every time.

[@Teachingcasuals]

Thats why butlers heat always win while kds nets always lost back in the day.

[@alexescutia4805]

You need a good mix of both

[@Teachingcasuals]

@@alexescutia4805 well yea but at the end of the day defense beats offense every time. But yea u do need to score the ball to win ofc.

[@enanebres6481]

New Subscriber here

[@therealdeal8775]

And celtics former player still milking that 08 championship like they run through Wilt, russell, magic, kareem, jordan, pippen, Olajuwon, barkley 😂😂😂

[@noelgaynor783]

Rip hamilton was running the lakers ragged

[@BevanBoychuk]

Maybe not as interesting, but can you do the 06 heat?

[@gozumrafael]

So the NBA eliminated chances of the teams like the 2004 Pistons. Coz extremely defensive games don't create eye candy highlights therefore bad for revenue in the long run

[@PierreDennis]

Let's be real...the hand-check rule really f*cked up the game. Can't even breath on a player without them wanting a foul call nowdays.

[@cresiaynarez]

Rip Hamilton

[@cvgodd1432]

One of my favorite nba teams ever!! They filled the bench with the biggest guys they can find. That was so they could foul Shaq all game 😂. Everyone was a good defender on the starting line up. Kind of reminds me of this years Celtics team. They all play good D and they can all hit shots! Rip was beast shooting around screens and catch and shoot!!