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How The Batman Can Still be Brought into the DCU

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The Black Lion

The Black Lion

Ай бұрын

After the set photos revealed our first good look at the Superman suit a lot of people kept on posting about how good this version of Superman would look next to Robert Pattinson’s Batman. The contrast between the two is perfect with Superman’s bright colors and superhero costume material and Batman’s dark colors and armor based suit perfectly encapsulating the world’s finest dynamic of two heroes with drastically different approaches to the same goal. In this video, I’ll be looking at how well The world of the Batman can fit into what we know about the DCU and how it would affect things.
Credit to the creators of the fan art used in the video:
0:16 - Batman and Superman by Gabriel Fonseca and David Pinheiro
0:20 - Batman and Superman by SPDRMNKYXXIII
0:59 - Batman by The Black Lion
3:41 - Joker by Bobby_Art
6:03 - Robin by JaxsonDerr
6:39 - Robin by Mathias Nicolaisen
7:23 - Robin by GaryPopins
7:23 - Nightwing by Savagecomics
7:23 - Aqualad by Savagecomics
11:46 - Batman by SMARTSHEEP
11:48 - The Batman Part II by Jaxonderr
11:50 - The Batman Part II by diamonddead-art
12:12 - The Batman Part II by 2ktylorwillams16
12:18 - Batman and Robin by Clements.Ink
12:46 - Robin by AwedopeArts

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@Obamanomicon
@Obamanomicon Ай бұрын
The battinson/cornswet fan art is the routh/bale fan art all over again
@omarcarlos537
@omarcarlos537 Ай бұрын
I feel bale and cavil would been better
@StraightEdgeKnight19
@StraightEdgeKnight19 Ай бұрын
@@omarcarlos537Cavill had Affleck though. Bale and Routh makes more sense.
@robloxfellow
@robloxfellow 7 күн бұрын
@@omarcarlos537 maybe welling and bale would be better, routh could go with either clooney or kilmer, or even keaton
@EdeghonghoEkeka
@EdeghonghoEkeka 5 күн бұрын
Maybe they they want to be like spider man like in no way home
@samshughart3479
@samshughart3479 Ай бұрын
iron man started off fighting a guy in a bigger metal suit, years go by and he’s fighting a purple alien. pattinson batman CAN exist in a world with james gunn other powered characters. it just takes time. Batman and Superman, Metropolis and Gotham work well together because of the different tones. and also, The Batman movie had SUCH a great interpretation of the character i don’t even know how we can have another batman that holds a candle, just having him wear blue and have more bright colors feels like a cop out. I feel like pattinson can exist and become the batman that joins the justice league if done right.
@Ben-zg8xk
@Ben-zg8xk Ай бұрын
no lmao. Iron man was always more fantastical than the batman, if pattinsons enters the dcu he gets destroyed by anyone with superpowers.
@ojmcclanahan689
@ojmcclanahan689 Ай бұрын
There's the factor of tone. The overall tone of Matt Reeves' Batverse simply does not fit. There's no logical way to include Pattinson's Batman and the world that surrounds him into the DCU without completely changing the tone of the character and compromising everything Matt Reeves has done.
@getmeouttahere1209
@getmeouttahere1209 Ай бұрын
@@Ben-zg8xkthat’s why give “The Batman” a trilogy before they tie him in to anything else. Build him up, maybe even do a time skip before they do a justice league movie
@samshughart3479
@samshughart3479 Ай бұрын
@@ojmcclanahan689 i agree with what the other sides perspective but literally if u pick up a batman and superman comic they’re vastly different. batman can be fighting serial killers on a murder spree with no gimmicks and then superman can be fighting lobo and the parasite but there still in the same world literally a few cities away.
@juancarlosfernandez7411
@juancarlosfernandez7411 Ай бұрын
@@Ben-zg8xkno he wasn’t he was riding in a humvee and fighting tech moguls for his first three movies champ.
@leorigg2992
@leorigg2992 Ай бұрын
I do want Pattison to be part of the DCU, he’s already a had a great film which the public made financially and critically successful, as well, it would mean perhaps actually seeing the robins grow up (there are of course work around for the robins if James Gunn wants to get to Damian).
@jourdonpatron212
@jourdonpatron212 Ай бұрын
It wouldn't work because they're doing Teen Titans which means they're already going to be an older Dick Grayson and an established Batfamily. They're already working on Titans movies so this just wouldn't work for so many reasons
@matt-tf2ob
@matt-tf2ob Ай бұрын
Proves your stupid for Pattinson would not fit in the DCU so grow up they will get a new actor.
@dcmastermindfirst9418
@dcmastermindfirst9418 Ай бұрын
Pattinson is Elseworlds
@jaylenjayden9305
@jaylenjayden9305 Ай бұрын
⁠@@jourdonpatron212doesn’t change anything especially when it could be an early version of the team
@carterblake3410
@carterblake3410 Ай бұрын
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 yeah but these people cant accept that so that's why they kept on yapping about this
@T3aseW1thease
@T3aseW1thease Ай бұрын
I think that were past the point where the audience is going to be confused like dcu Batmans title is '' The Brave and the Bold'' and Matt reeves Batman is just ''The Batman'' and the sequel is just going to be titled ''The Batman Part 2'' like im like 99% the audience isnt gonna be confused
@samshughart3479
@samshughart3479 Ай бұрын
maybe but i’ve spoken to multiple casual fans of these movies and they think it’s dumb to have 2 batman’s at the same time AGAIN regardless of the tone.
@jayminlucas2079
@jayminlucas2079 Ай бұрын
@@samshughart3479I hate to be a dick but in my personal opinion I’d say fk them casuals 😭 having to water down a character, movie or let alone an entire universe (bringing Robert Pattinson’s Batman would be”watering down” & more so hurting the new DCU as it’s not the right vibe for the universe in my opinion) just because the casuals that otherwise wouldn’t contribute, take interest in , or even take the time to become knowledgeable enough to know how the characters should be portrayed is a slap in the face to the true fans. I understand the money aspect but it rlly just sucks imo.
@nerychristian
@nerychristian Ай бұрын
@@samshughart3479 They might as well just do like a multiverse film and bring together The Batman and The Joker
@thomasjohnson1885
@thomasjohnson1885 Ай бұрын
@@jayminlucas2079Well “true fans” ain’t what DC needs.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Ай бұрын
I remember when they played a teaser in the theater for Amazing Spiderman. A guy in the theater said "I've seen this one already." They will be confused. My stepsister thinks Green Lantern is in Marvel. Normies don't get this stuff.
@attaelhusen7134
@attaelhusen7134 Ай бұрын
Anyone that says that The Batman is too realistic to be in a fantastical setting baffle me even though Arrow started of grounded and introduced THE FLASH and it was amazing while it still was good to watch
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Ай бұрын
The Arrowverse was always held back by budget and the Teen soap opera CW writing. Honestly, I would've rather had a good Flash movie than 9 crappy seasons of the Flash show. They were OK, but nothing amazing. And with Green Arrow, they just essentially turned him into Batman.
@attaelhusen7134
@attaelhusen7134 Ай бұрын
Still, the grounded esthetic transitioned convincingly into fantastical@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@chemostar2361
@chemostar2361 Ай бұрын
also the marvel netflix shows which the batman already feels extremely similar to existing in the mcu
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Ай бұрын
@@chemostar2361 Problem with that is that Batman isn't a street level character. He's a big player in the DC universe. His world is so large. It's not just him. By taking away parts of his world that are campier, you limit the character severly. You take away his ability to interact with the wider universe. You take away the fun. What you're left with isn't the character, but only merely 1 aspect of the character. I'd much rather see them bring multiple aspects and elements together. That's much more impressive.
@matt-tf2ob
@matt-tf2ob Ай бұрын
Proves your stupid for Arrow is a trash show and all the other garbage shows were still stupid grounded realistic and don't compare trash CW shows to Movies.
@TheRealCSD6
@TheRealCSD6 Ай бұрын
And older batman that has Damian just sounds so much better than a younger batman
@sup3414
@sup3414 Ай бұрын
3:09 If you read The Riddler Year One comic by Paul Dano himself, it's confirmed that Metropolis exists in the Batverse
@ivanagustinortiz5237
@ivanagustinortiz5237 27 күн бұрын
Paul Dano doing God's work with that comic, damn
@KhaosKontroller
@KhaosKontroller Ай бұрын
People sure are keen on doing the exact thing Matt Reeves DIDN'T want.
@artist0154
@artist0154 Ай бұрын
yeah, I remember when the batman released and everyone was like "please let it be his own thing, Reaves doesnt need a DCU" even Reaves and Gunn were saying "yeah we're in different universes dont worry" and everyone was chearing for that, but now they want the batman in the DCU?
@KhaosKontroller
@KhaosKontroller Ай бұрын
@@artist0154 Yeah it's fucking stupid. Especially when the opportunity to have a grounded Batman possibly raising Dick Grayson, at the same time as a fantastical Batman with an established Batfamily, sounds fantastic. Best of both worlds.
@ivanagustinortiz5237
@ivanagustinortiz5237 27 күн бұрын
Thing is, we're losing arguably the BEST and most accurate Batman we've seen so far, for the chance of a new one that is and will be a mystery until we see the brave and the bold.
@KhaosKontroller
@KhaosKontroller 27 күн бұрын
@@ivanagustinortiz5237 Losing? They're still making a sequel and spin off show. We ain't losin shit. We're far past the point where audiences get confused cause there's 2 different Batmen in seperate franchises.
@ivanagustinortiz5237
@ivanagustinortiz5237 27 күн бұрын
@@KhaosKontroller what I meant was that they're missing out on having such a good Batman be gatekeeped out of being the definitive version for a DC Universe.
@metallixstudios4999
@metallixstudios4999 Ай бұрын
What’s wrong with having some heroes debut before Batman? I know it makes more sense to have him be the first and be like “Masked Vigilantes before Metahumans”, but why not shake things up to be different, and have him be like second or third on the scene?
@veryveryindecisive
@veryveryindecisive Ай бұрын
No. It would be much better to have Pattinson in his own universe. Reeves is cooking and I don’t want him to be tied down by the continuity of a larger cinematic universe. He’s got his own universe and it’s great that he can have his vision fully realized in his own self contained universe without any studio interference, rather than have to change things around to fit with other movies and shows. While it would be cool to see Pattinson and Corenswet on screen together, Matt wants to tell a more grounded and serious story, whereas Gunn is creating a more wacky and fantastical story.
@Japple_Junior
@Japple_Junior Ай бұрын
Even though I believe Pattinson and Corenswet would make a great Batman and Superman duo, I don’t think it would likely be happening. 😔
@RedBoiYT3902
@RedBoiYT3902 Ай бұрын
As fun as it is speculating, Reeves DOES NOT WANT his Batman to be brought to the DCU. Lets not get our hopes to high and just let them cook
@gwyn3122
@gwyn3122 Ай бұрын
I hope Batman becomes a part of the universe. We don't need an old Batman and a young Superman. We need a young Batman and a young Superman. I hope that Damian will not be Robin, but Dick Grayson will be.
@matt-tf2ob
@matt-tf2ob Ай бұрын
It won't stupid so get a life for Batman is better being Older.
@Broadkill54
@Broadkill54 Ай бұрын
Yeah Gunn already had everything in motion for a new Batman. Pattinson universe will be separate.
@Some_random_guy_123
@Some_random_guy_123 Ай бұрын
I honestly prefer for The Batman universe to NOT be in the DCU. I really prefer for him to be grounded, dark and griddy and not see him fight some CGI aliens with the help of another alien wearing red boxers on top of a blue spandex suit with a big ass S in the middle of it...
@Laxmivydehi
@Laxmivydehi Ай бұрын
bro is shoving everyone in 2020
@abiodunsulaiman2297
@abiodunsulaiman2297 Ай бұрын
Year so ass superheroes returned
@PoDawg
@PoDawg Ай бұрын
James Gunn already said that Matt Reeves is not putting Pattinson in his universe.
@carterblake3410
@carterblake3410 Ай бұрын
thank you tell these people who is a nerd of dc is
@andresvilhjalmsson2903
@andresvilhjalmsson2903 Ай бұрын
Things change
@carterblake3410
@carterblake3410 Ай бұрын
@@andresvilhjalmsson2903 don't speak kid
@user-ih3ln8km2h
@user-ih3ln8km2h Ай бұрын
@@andresvilhjalmsson2903 Y’all are saying, “oh it’s simple to take Matt reeves Batman and put him in the dcu”, but forget that it’s not what Him no Robert want. If James Gunn were to put them in the dcu, it wouldn’t even start because as James said in the past Matt declined that move. He doesn’t want his Batman in the dcu. And Robert only in his version of Batman because he respects his work. So if James Gunn were to say “either you cancel your universe or join ours” Matt would just choose the first option.
@damionwayne8701
@damionwayne8701 24 күн бұрын
I hope so I want Alan ritchson to be batman not Robert pattinson
@imjamespopcorn
@imjamespopcorn Ай бұрын
james gunn said it was Matt Reeves’ decision to keep his batman out of the dcu, so i’d prefer to just let Reeves cook
@BusterBarnes
@BusterBarnes Ай бұрын
I dont think itll confise general audiences to be honest. If the tones / looks are different and The DCU Batman had the Bat Family etc it just wont be confusing imo
@austindaniels4827
@austindaniels4827 Ай бұрын
i am honestly fine whatever they choose to do with Batman, i am curious tho if James Gunn and Matt Reeves r waiting for the Penguin to see how it’s received before making any decisions. there’s been no news on Brave and the Bold, not that that means they’re not working on it, but there’s at least been a handful of rumors for other projects. so to me, it makes sense that they might wait to see the audience reception of the Penguin and then Matt and James might go back to the drawing board
@ezdan0905
@ezdan0905 Ай бұрын
the batman takes place in 2019 or 2024 cuz October 31 is on a Thursday on both those years
@Monkeykinq101
@Monkeykinq101 Ай бұрын
These two universes exist in very different worlds: The Batman is a dark purely realistic portrayal of the iconic caped crusader, while the DCU leans into several different tones but exist in a different world where all these tones can tie together to make a greater whole. To put Patterson's universe in the DCU would be to ruin the depiction both he and Matt Reeves are trying to create, not because of the tone not fitting-but because the worlds THEMSELVES don't fit. Sure, a piece from a different puzzle CAN FIT-but not without taking away from that other puzzle the piece originated from.
@amaarirving902
@amaarirving902 Ай бұрын
and you sir have just proved you are a casually and a movie watcher you dont know the comics if you did you would know that what makes it so good the different worlds they live in just like in the batman the animated series and superman there was two different worlds that look nothing alike but when they got together none of that mattered
@marcusyates3044
@marcusyates3044 Ай бұрын
Dick Grayson, Barbara Gordon and Tim Drake, my favorites to which I want to see in the DCU!
@sentinel7423
@sentinel7423 Ай бұрын
Look, I'm an actor and I do a lot of film study, The Batman doesn't fit the tone that James Gunn is setting for the DCU. As much as I would love it to be a part of it, you can't just change the tone of a beloved movie to fit a universe it was never meant to fit into. Yeah, Batman is darker but the DCU seems to me like they're trying to pull directly from the comics, The Batman doesn't do that, it's more of a conceptual kind of Batman, it really is an elseworlds story
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka Ай бұрын
That’s true
@gamerzilla6113
@gamerzilla6113 Ай бұрын
What about Swamp Thing, Authority, Paradise Lost? And one character's film doesn't define entire universe's tone.
@attaelhusen7134
@attaelhusen7134 Ай бұрын
You guys forget Arrow introduced The Flash
@joelsilva699
@joelsilva699 Ай бұрын
James Gunn mentioned the DCU wouldn’t have a singular tone like the MCU, as they will vary between the characters and stories being told
@blistow3519
@blistow3519 Ай бұрын
I get what you’re saying but also the comics these are based on are constantly having tone changes to the characters and most cinematic universe have a tone change in them anyway
@tombstonerforever9374
@tombstonerforever9374 Ай бұрын
I love when you upload
@kgtfp
@kgtfp Ай бұрын
Fav youtuber W video as always
@nysimcharles33
@nysimcharles33 Ай бұрын
Why do people still have this delusion? Reaves doesn’t want the Batman Connected so it won’t be connected, end of discussion
@shantaehalf-geniehero4318
@shantaehalf-geniehero4318 Ай бұрын
Exactly man! It’s supposed to be an elseworld type of thing, Reaves doesn’t want to be associated with other heroes in his universe.
@TommFoolery
@TommFoolery Ай бұрын
... No? People can discuss what they like. If you're not intrested, go away.
@Batx0123LOLXD
@Batx0123LOLXD Ай бұрын
Because its a good delusion a perfect batman with a perfect superman
@thomasjohnson1885
@thomasjohnson1885 Ай бұрын
Is it a delusion or just fans having fun?
@nysimcharles33
@nysimcharles33 Ай бұрын
@@thomasjohnson1885 good point, as many times as I have seen it I’d say borderline delusion.
@Mr_Wayne2012
@Mr_Wayne2012 Ай бұрын
The same case happened in 2011-2014 with people on Batman bale and superman cavill
@colton7321
@colton7321 Ай бұрын
Im so split on this too but im glad that I have your videos to really help visualize and think out these things that I can't talk to anyone about 😅
@TheAnimeLore23
@TheAnimeLore23 Ай бұрын
Bro we don’t need the Batman in our Dcu timeline them ppl gone be confused about it we need one for the Dcu
@ImJusMoney
@ImJusMoney Ай бұрын
they definitely need to it would be amazing and the contrast between the two would be so good to see!
@dmen7280
@dmen7280 Ай бұрын
This is the same problem the New 52 had lol. The 5 years thing is super weird to try and wrap your head around.... I could get behind it. But I would enjoy it more if the DCU's story had its own Bats
@prime_zeroo0
@prime_zeroo0 Ай бұрын
2019 - Bruce returns to Gotham and becomes Batman. A few months later, Clark becomes Superman, and over time, the rest of the superheroes. 2020 - Iconic villains like the Joker appear this year. 2021 - The first Batman film takes place. A few months later, in the same year, Bruce adopts Dick, who soon becomes Robin. 2022 - Barbara becomes Batgirl, Kara becomes Supergirl. 2023 - Dick becomes Nightwing, Jason becomes Robin, but a couple of months later the Joker shoots Barbara and kills Jason. 2024 - Tim reveals Batman's identity and becomes the new Robin. Barbara becomes the Oracle. 2025 - Superman Legacy takes place and Cassandra becomes Batgirl. 2026 - Batman the Brave and the Bold takes place.
@christianswan5515
@christianswan5515 Ай бұрын
I think Robert Pattinson should definitely be the dcu Batman since he’s my favorite Batman actor because it wouldn’t make sense for their to be 2 Batman actors at once
@man.actual
@man.actual 26 күн бұрын
You only asked if you could, you never stopped and asked yourself if you should
@MyNameIsPaulo54
@MyNameIsPaulo54 Ай бұрын
Good thing I watched this video, because I was on board with them changing their mind and making The Batman cannon. But this video changed my mind so hard
@pedrovisgueira
@pedrovisgueira Ай бұрын
I wish you'd stop taking The Suicide Squad in consideration like it's canon for the DCU.
@Buchanannn
@Buchanannn Ай бұрын
I love the fact of 2 separate Batmans. It's just more Batman content for us. One in a very gritty and grounded take on the character and one far more comic accurate. And I think for casual viewers if it confuses them that much then I think they would just look it up and be able to find the answers to their questions.
@hammadb666
@hammadb666 Ай бұрын
Hey, i have a great idea for a new universe constructing vid. How about you make it a video of like the Vought Cinematic universe? Consisting of the supes in that universe and have teams like The Seven, Payback, Guardians Of Godolkin and G-Men?
@ivanagustinortiz5237
@ivanagustinortiz5237 27 күн бұрын
This might be crazy, but what if Pattinson gets casted as the DCU Batman while he does his Reevesverse trilogy? Same actor doing two different versions of the exact same character, one a bit older with a son and the other a younger vigilante finding his footing. A kin to James McAvoy playing vastly different Charles Xavier's each movie while they're the same core character. And hell, we've gone through a world where Sean Connery popped up out of nowhere with Never Say Never Again in the midst of Roger Moore and Timothy Darlton. This could be done.
@Tanatswa777
@Tanatswa777 16 күн бұрын
I honestly think "The Batman" should be incorporated into the DCU coz I've never seen a batman evolve from threats like the riddler to threats like Darkseid in live action and it would be interesting to see that play out, building Batman from the ground up
@talon3684
@talon3684 17 күн бұрын
I need a fresh Batman. Battinson belongs in DC's Elseworlds division with Joker since he is not part of the DCU. Even Matt Reeves prefers to be separate. My pick is Zane Holtz for the DCU Batman. DCU audiences are more than intelligent enough to understand the two Batmen. Especially when the films would be labeled differently to bring separation.
@comicfan1324
@comicfan1324 Ай бұрын
This is just my opinion, but regardless, if they keep some of the actors, I think the DCU should just start a clean slate. The suicide squad was a fun film, but it’s too strongly connected to the original DCU for the timeline to work with completely newinterpretations of the league
@seanmalloy0528
@seanmalloy0528 Ай бұрын
I would still have the DCU Batman suit look armored. Your idea could work
@idklol117
@idklol117 Ай бұрын
Hey i had kind of a fun idea for a video (i think) What if the multiverse saga had the same structure as the infinity saga Also loved the video :)
@DuendeCaughtOnTape
@DuendeCaughtOnTape Ай бұрын
This could be crazy
@MechanicalGizmo
@MechanicalGizmo Ай бұрын
For the Flash in this DCU timeline, I’d actually love if Barry is an older member of the League and acts as a mentor for the other heroes. Then, when he dies in whatever crisis happens, Wally takes up the mantle and the roles are reversed with Wally learning from the League.
@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511
@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511 Ай бұрын
Podría ser como Hank pim en el ucm que ya está retirado el y le da a Wally el traje
@ethandoyle4978
@ethandoyle4978 Ай бұрын
Glad I’m not alone in thinking this. As much as I love seeing “the Batman” being its own thing , there’s also a part that would’ve loved to see that movie and its universe be one of the starting points for James gunns dc universe.
@ojmcclanahan689
@ojmcclanahan689 Ай бұрын
I just don't think it works. People forget that movies and comics are quite different in presentation. There's the factor of tone, and the tone of Matt Reeves' Batverse doesn't esthetically fit anything we've seen from the DCU so far. It also doesn't fit from a narrative standpoint. James Gunn has said that Batman would have the Bat Family, so if we're gonna have a Batman with a Bat Family and Damian Wayne as Robin, we gotta have a Bruce Wayne that's at least 41 years old. There's no reason to compromise the history and backstories of beloved characters just for the sake of having a younger actor play Batman.
@sup3414
@sup3414 Ай бұрын
1:13 Oh please ENOUGH with that rherotic. No, it won't. Pattinson is clearly labeled as an ELSEWORLDS while DCU Batman is main canon. What's so hard to comprehend about labels?
@dylanbooth4018
@dylanbooth4018 Ай бұрын
I’m okay with what they’re doing with Batman in the DCU🙂
@davidchittick6783
@davidchittick6783 Ай бұрын
0:59 for the DCU batsuit, they should give it that classic vibe. But of course take the iconic designs from the comics. Like they did with the DCU Superman suit.
@AmazingZane1
@AmazingZane1 Ай бұрын
As much as I liked The Batman, I still think it has some problems, and wish the Batmobile design and location of Wayne Manor were different. Even if it doesn’t become canon, we can still see both Batmen fighting grounded and fantastical villains.
@leorigg2992
@leorigg2992 Ай бұрын
I’m sorry, I know I’m nit picking, but it’s Batman isn’t necessarily a person, but he’s more supposed to be a symbol that criminals fear, and people can feel hope, therefore it would would batmans, and not batmen.
@markjae6716
@markjae6716 Ай бұрын
This goes for both parties, James Gunn and Matt Reeves. Drop your EGOS. This is BRILLIANT. Just join forces already. PLEASE
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Ай бұрын
That makes no sense. It was never Matt Reeves intention to put The Batman in a more comic book world. He wanted it to be grounded and realistic. Meaning Metropolis might exist, but there's no Superman because that's not what Reeves is going for.
@SidKnee_______
@SidKnee_______ Ай бұрын
They ain’t enemy’s???
@matt-tf2ob
@matt-tf2ob Ай бұрын
Wrong stupid its a Multiverse so 2 different Universes.
@Jaylobeans
@Jaylobeans Ай бұрын
You're*
@user-ih3ln8km2h
@user-ih3ln8km2h Ай бұрын
What “EGO”💀? They both respect each other, and James Gunn has already approached the idea. And Matt declined, instead of canceling his universe he welcomed it as an elseworld.
@Dookieman1975
@Dookieman1975 18 күн бұрын
If they wanted to do Mr freeze for the Batman part 2 (they may do it) I think they could use the Batman to build the DCU. Implementing more fantastical elements ain’t a bad idea and having Superman exist in the same world but having a different tone is fine. But I don’t mind two different cinematic universes as long as they’re good. Especially if we get more grounded and edgy Batman and a more goofy, swashbuckling and epic JL founding member Batman
@JoaoGabriel-gh2rg
@JoaoGabriel-gh2rg Ай бұрын
I have an idea for a video ,please do that . What if you get every marvel and DC production or almost every ,since 90s to today and make them part of a cinematic universe ,if you want you could use Batman 89 and reeves Superman anyways. Some animated series and animated movies wouldnt fit but i think the movies ,some games like Arkham and Marvel Spiderman,and tv shows could fit . Yes i know this would need some rewriting but i have tried to do this and its possible ,you could create new projects ,use canceled projects and even future projects . Well i know is a Challenge but i think you could that please try to do that .
@LeSteeler
@LeSteeler Ай бұрын
U dont have to change the title...it would just be The Batman Part II
@GB6__YT
@GB6__YT Ай бұрын
Peak has posted
@Batx0123LOLXD
@Batx0123LOLXD Ай бұрын
3:10 They can honestly just retcon TSS and peacemake to have taken place in this new timeline after 2025
@carterblake3410
@carterblake3410 Ай бұрын
no retcons allowed
@Batx0123LOLXD
@Batx0123LOLXD Ай бұрын
@@carterblake3410 the events of TSS and peacemaker are literally being retconned to fit into the DCU…
@martychisnall
@martychisnall 22 күн бұрын
“Colin Firth as the Penguin”
@TheNotorious2016
@TheNotorious2016 Ай бұрын
I like the idea of The Batman trilogy being younger days of DCU's Batman
@noahfitness3974
@noahfitness3974 26 күн бұрын
Teen Titans- Robin (Dick Grayson), Starfire, Supergirl, Beast Boy, Cyborg, Raven, Wonder Girl (Donna Troy), Aqualad (Garth), Speedy (Roy Harper) & Kid Flash (Wally West)
@Cyberronnin
@Cyberronnin Ай бұрын
Honestly think the Batman should be a Max exclusive release going forward and the DCU Batman should get the main stage. Pattinson is a great Batman but the tone doesn’t seem vibrant enough to build a vibrant cinematic universe
@lorenzokloss4403
@lorenzokloss4403 Ай бұрын
The Batverse movies are all prequels following the DCU's Batman in his earliest years. That's how you can tell way more grounded and dark stories, because as Batman grows older, he deals with enemies that are more asnd more fantastical. That's why I i think they were originally planning to release the Arkham show in the DCU before it was cancelled.
@samuelwanzio4703
@samuelwanzio4703 Ай бұрын
I hope this does happen 🤞🏽
@jourdonpatron212
@jourdonpatron212 Ай бұрын
Fans want Battinson in the DCU but fail to realize why it wouldn't work. Reeves wants more realistic approach, James doesn't. Not to mention we're getting Titans in DCU. So already that doesn't work.
@sup3414
@sup3414 Ай бұрын
Except that Batman has ALWAYS been the most "realistic" of the Justice League...
@user-ih3ln8km2h
@user-ih3ln8km2h Ай бұрын
@@sup3414 Y’all are saying, “oh it’s simple to take Matt reeves Batman and put him in the dcu”, but forget that it’s not what Him no Robert want. If James Gunn were to put them in the dcu, it wouldn’t even start because as James said in the past Matt declined that move. He doesn’t want his Batman in the dcu. And Robert only in is his version of Batman because he respects his work. So if James Gunn were to say “either you cancel your universe or join ours” Matt would just choose the first option.
@jourdonpatron212
@jourdonpatron212 Ай бұрын
@@sup3414 Yes in COMPARISON except the DCU Batman is more likely to fight Dracula, Manbat Poison Ivy, or having a Satanic Cult storyline versus Reeves want Batman to be more grounded in his take of the villains. Comic Batman and Reeves' Batman are not the same level of "realism..."
@sup3414
@sup3414 Ай бұрын
@@jourdonpatron212 You'd be surprised at how many "realistic" Batman comics exists.
@AndreasMylonas-pu4st
@AndreasMylonas-pu4st Ай бұрын
Very cool super cast I hope this DCU cast have. Many. Some this movie s 😊i love it so
@420Mashi
@420Mashi Ай бұрын
It's a tough decision for me. My heart wants to see Robert Pattinson's Batman incorporated into the DCU, but my mind wants to see Matt Reeves' vision of the separate Bat-world he's created.
@cicciogamer80fame.
@cicciogamer80fame. Ай бұрын
unfortunatly an iphotetycal time skip would be needed for the batman to join the new universe , for growning of both his batfamily and the general number of superheroes around , i don t see that happening
@noahfitness3974
@noahfitness3974 26 күн бұрын
Batman should get the rebirth suit, new 52 suit, Batman earth one suit, earth 2 suit & Batman Inc suit
@spider-ty7420
@spider-ty7420 Ай бұрын
a few points I'd like to make, the batman is not part of the DCU because Gunn wants it that way, but because Matt reeves wants it that way, he said that he didn't want to be tied down to a universe, but be able to make his batman how he wants. second, peacemaker season one and I would believe the suicide squad are not canon to the DCU, but peacemaker season two is. lastly, blue beetle (the movie) is not canon to the DCU, but the actor who plays him will continue to play him in the DCU.
@928studiosinc06
@928studiosinc06 Ай бұрын
I prefer what's actually happening, and only because The Batman very gritty and realistic. If James Gunn was planning from the beginning to incorporate this version of Batman into the larger DCU, then he would've worked around it and made his reboot less like it actually is.
@HerbCoswellBornAgain
@HerbCoswellBornAgain Ай бұрын
While i wouldve preferred it if Battinson was made into the main DCU Batman, im open to seeing two different interpretations on screen at the same time, as long as its done right.
@THEINFINITEBLACKDYNAMITE
@THEINFINITEBLACKDYNAMITE Ай бұрын
I think Batman should be referenced too in Superman. Like somebody says a flying man with super strength & shoots lasers out of his eyes is even more dangerous than that nut who fights other nuts in Gotham, something like that. Bruce Wayne/Batman need's to be formally introduced in his own movie.
@homelander6183
@homelander6183 Ай бұрын
Well when it is good idea of Pattinson to be dcu batman but I don't imagine him like someone that have 3 Robin's 2/3 Batgirl and has been active for over a decade he still gives me pretty year one /two batman vibes
@user-me8qi4hc1v
@user-me8qi4hc1v 29 күн бұрын
can you make a video of what if the dceu was like the mcu
@acheman8836
@acheman8836 23 күн бұрын
I really want this because I personally think that Robert Pattinson is perfect as Batman. They can easily say put Robert Pattinson in the DCU and simply not connect it to The Batman just as they're doing with Peacemaker Season 1 going into season 2. Easy. Matt Reeves' and Gunns's past comments about this Batman being standalone would still be true
@oatmat
@oatmat Ай бұрын
Your missing a crucial element, some of these heroes have been around for decades(like JSA etc), so Hal Jordan will be in his late 40s and John Stewart will be the main GL for this universe like he was in JLU(hopefully more character development than the comics and they give him a mask)
@maxjohnson6502
@maxjohnson6502 Ай бұрын
I think they should retcon The Batman's timeline by setting it in the mid 2010's and have the trilogy be a prequel to the Brave and the Bold. That way it would correlate better with the DCU timeline🤷🏽‍♂️
@SidKnee_______
@SidKnee_______ Ай бұрын
I swear James said tss and peacemaker season 1 wasent gonna be in the new continuity, and he never said the events of blue beetle would have been canon
@henrygarcia39
@henrygarcia39 Ай бұрын
It’s what I would want more superhero movies to be like, separate superhero movies should be ALLOWED to feel different in tone and even genre but still exist in the same universe. Let Blade be an action horror while Guardians is a space opera, Hulk is either a monster movie or psycho drama, and so on and so forth.
@matthewnuss3053
@matthewnuss3053 Ай бұрын
Gunn asked Reeves if he was interested in merging the two but reeves didn’t want his story to be held back by having to be shared with other writers projects and Gunn respected that
@soupermoviecritic8511
@soupermoviecritic8511 Ай бұрын
Wait I’m the same age as The Batman? Nice. 👍🏻
@trexadvent4726
@trexadvent4726 Ай бұрын
What all members of the Bat family is Robert Pattinson Batman going to have with him in Matt Reeves Batman movies? Imagine if Iain Armitage played Tim Drake Red Robin there?
@Silas_Kow
@Silas_Kow Ай бұрын
Nah man, Matt Reves deserve the freedom to wright his script witought the burden to conect to the DCU
@BatArt-jh1vh
@BatArt-jh1vh Ай бұрын
I think they should keep them separate. The Batman will no doubt be a trilogy so they could have them come out every three or four years stretching out the story plus it would sort of match the tone of The Batman universe. Then have multiple consistent DCU projects releasing in-between, I think this would create a difference between the two universes. DCU being populated with different characters and relapsing constantly like the early MCU did and then The Batman Part 2 and 3 be released every few years.
@WebHeadFanatic
@WebHeadFanatic Ай бұрын
People are forgetting that Matt Reaves doesn't want to do this it's his universe and James Gunn will respect that but the video was great as always
@carterblake3410
@carterblake3410 Ай бұрын
they are coping
@WebHeadFanatic
@WebHeadFanatic Ай бұрын
@@carterblake3410 lmao
@carterblake3410
@carterblake3410 Ай бұрын
@@WebHeadFanatic is better off as an else worlds i'll like it too
@trexadvent4726
@trexadvent4726 Ай бұрын
Are we going to see characters like Robert Pattinson Batman coming to the DCU like something similar to how Vibe had the power to travel between universes in the Arrowverse?
@hungryalmighty7156
@hungryalmighty7156 Ай бұрын
Here’s another way the Batman could fit into The dcu. The Batman part 1 and 2 are soft canon within the dcu brave and the bold. Example u could have a situation in brave and the bold where Batman is talking to Damian and tells him, “u know I remember 15 years ago I faced the riddler here and he flooded all of Gotham”. Essentially the dcu Batman and the reeves Batman are still different Batman but the dcu Batman still went through similar events that the reeves Batman went through in the Batman part 1 and 2
@DemBones1306
@DemBones1306 Ай бұрын
I really hope battison is left to do his own thing. You cant reboot a universe while keeping all your favourite things that just feeld cheap. Im personally really to excited to see what James gunn is playing for batman :)
@ItsDee_
@ItsDee_ Ай бұрын
At the end of the day, I don't want to have to wait 10+ years in order to have the batfamily established and my favourite characters introduced properly in live action.
@kursedmilk
@kursedmilk Ай бұрын
They should just focus on other dc superheroes for once and let reeves finish his trilogy, it’s not like we are lacking in batman content.
@jamesorion8316
@jamesorion8316 Ай бұрын
i always said these two should be in the same universe, batman can still be grounded that’s what makes him different and contrast against the fantasy elements
@cahe6161
@cahe6161 Ай бұрын
Just let it go man. Personally I think it's about time we get a true comic accurate Batman
@raichu753siordia2
@raichu753siordia2 Ай бұрын
The batman trilogy could just be a prequel to the current dcu
@mineimusprime7004
@mineimusprime7004 Ай бұрын
It really depends on how good the Braves & the Bold is to me
@Repp35
@Repp35 Ай бұрын
anything that has previously happened such as the suicide squad, blue beetle, and peacemaker are said to be general ideas of what happened, meaning not all of these are 100%
@DanielFunGuy
@DanielFunGuy Ай бұрын
What if they still have the batman part II and Batman the brave and the bold be two separate movies, but they make batman the brave and the bold a movie set in the future.
@chwayde2295
@chwayde2295 Ай бұрын
While I'd be open to it, it defeats the purpose of restarting the universe. It would just be a headache. Let alone the strain it could put on Pattinson, likely being part of multiple projects while inevitability still carrying the new universe. I'd rather a new fantastical batman & a fun brave & the bold movie. Down the line when they get multiversal, he could come in as a nice treat to the fans.
@Halracc
@Halracc Ай бұрын
Tanner buchanan would be a perfect Robin and Jacob bertand as Kid flash (Xolo as Blue beetle)
@JoseNatal-ck7zv
@JoseNatal-ck7zv Ай бұрын
I’m ok with they are planning
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