How The Fredbear Plush SOLVED (most of) The FNAF Timeline - FNAF Theory

#fnaf #fivenightsatfreddys #fredbear
He’s here, he’s there, he’s everywhere! But what is he exactly? Is it a ghost, a person, or even just an imaginary friend? I think I know the answer, and it changes everything about the FNAF timeline.
(Except for Midnight Motorist)
Sethxiety Video: • FNAF: Putting The Piec...
RyeToast Video: • Charlotte: Five Nights...
Entom Video: • Video

[@3X3T3R-2]

subscriber #1000 😆

[@DeskFanMan87]

Thank you so much!!!!!!!

[@mimicball-q6u]

1001 actually 😊

[@Firegen1]

I thought we knew. He's a canonical 80's sitcom character "He's here, he's there, he's everywhere"

[@DeskFanMan87]

I reeeealy wish they would reference this in a game at some point, like Buff Helpy.😂

[@azimuddin1890]

Exactly!

[@ediblefredible]

@@DeskFanMan87 the difference is they wouldn't be trolling matpat with an appearance of PFF like with buff helpy lol (plus yknow, god forbid they make fans think they're confirming anything by including it 💀)

[@phoebedavis288]

“Who you gonna call? Psychic friend Fred bear”

[@Firegen1]

@@phoebedavis288 hell yeah!

[@squidtronic3527]

I love the secret ending of fnaf world where you get a cutscene of deal guy on the phone with the Fred bear plush saying “who knew Freddy could do so much damage with just a firecracker and a urinal”. Really changes a lot of our current perceptions of the lore when you look back on it.

[@DeskFanMan87]

Ah yes, the “Dayshift” ending lol

[@lagmanrealtrustme]

Personally I prefer the ending where William throws Foxy into the Grand canyon

[@Sacrene]

Wait a minute in into a pit didn’t freddy get stunned by a…

[@Sans0au0simp]

Dsaf ref

[@xymaryai8283]

okay, i know its a paranormal story, but can we talk about how he built elaborate underground facilities that go to his HOUSE? how the fk did he get planning permission, and if he didn't, how did he dig tunnels with any level of speed and discreteness? Colin Furze has been digging for years, and is only digging a small tunnel on a single small English property, not a whole underground multiroom laboratory under multiple properties a short walk from each other???? wait... did he get the robots to dig it? thats actually, quite sensible, if you accept a sufficiently talented engineer can propel extreme leaps in technology. i want to see the digging robots he built.

[@DeskFanMan87]

I tend to believe the facility was just already there and it was repurposed by William for the tests. And since I believe EVERY Observatory we see on the breaker map is a simulation, it eliminates the issue of how it connects to Aftons house. The one on the map is a recreation.

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

32:20 THIS, this needed to be said! People ignore the books so much but they give so much characterization. Caltron describes him as a lonely person who was always envy of other people and thinks the world has something to him. Every of his creation is Henrys creation that he rebrabds, put more money into it, or directly steals them. He has a perfect life but he throws that away ruiming his and everyone elses life. If the cutscene in SL of the vampire are about his reaction to his wife being pregnant of michael he is pathetic. He also pretend alot that he is smarter then he is, in fnaf 6 for say when he understand later that is a trap and prenteds he knew it all along

[@BreaksBee]

i'm still on the belief that afton just puts fredbear plushs everywhere around his house.

[@SussyBananas86]

Recently I saw Tom from Game Theory say the “wound first inflicted” on him were a parallel to Caeser’s murder. And that Henry KNEW what William did. But he was just a bystander, which led to guilt & the wound. This would put Charlie’s death later, like in the ruin graves. I am not taking Tom’s word as like the gospel or anything lolll, but I thought it was a really compelling theory! It makes the mimic make sense narratively & Ik that’s the whole point of GT is to be entertaining, but I think it’s cool.

[@PDD555]

After watching this I'm thinking that the actual motivation for William is not killing or making others suffer despite how twisted he is. He wants to be immortal, to be God in a sense. He's literally a creator of robots, of beings that are human like but not truly.

[@DeskFanMan87]

I think it becomes that at some point for sure, but I dunno about his initial motive.

[@gguy3600]

​@DeskFanMan87 That's always how I've interpreted William's character arc. He started off killing out of some twisted version of spite, but as he experiments more with remnant, he develops more and more into a mad scientist on a quest for immortality. In the end, he does achieve his goal. But it's in a way outside his control, which forces to persist through an agonising existence as Springtrap. A fitting punishment for his hubris. Great video by the way. Your interpretation of the FNAF 4 mini games is probably the best I've seen yet.

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@gguy3600 thank you!

[@Flaaffity]

I feel like the fredbear plush is used and made by William but is also possessed. So 2 different entities are speaking to crying child. The security log book has the vengeful spirit ask the crying child "does he still talk to you?" Next to an illustration of the fredbear plush. So vengeful spirit knew about it.

[@Takejiro24]

"We know who our friends are and you *NOT* one of them!" has now fully swayed me to WillPlush. Helping is William telling Mike "See you on the flipside" in the FNAF Movie. Simple usage of a common saying or a deliberate double entendre? Also, your usage of Nightmare Fredbear's line is making me think if C.C. has or had a connection to the MCI Kids like Abby in the movie.

[@DeskFanMan87]

The Abby parallel is an interesting connection I haven’t really thought about, good point.

[@shronkler1994]

"Helping is William telling Mike "See you on the flipside" in the FNAF Movie. Simple usage of a common saying or a deliberate double entendre?" maybe it's just me, but this seems like a flimsy argument. it's using a common saying to connect a game and a movie 8 years apart and presumably in different continuity. however, the nature of Scott's writing definitely encourages this way of thinking. i do agree that the connection between Nightmare Fredbear's voice lines and Psychic Friend Fredbear's suggesting William is in the plush is quite satisfying, though it isn't the only decent interpretation you can make. i kinda like the idea of the puppet coming first and speaking to CC, at least as the final speaker. these are my thoughts before i fully watch, so my opinion might change edit: WOW! i prefer not to acknowledge any 'andrew' character but i really liked the way his story came together at the end. i would just cut off everything after UCN, personally.

[@WheatleyBuggygames]

@@shronkler1994unfortunately that ‘puppet coming in as the final speaker’ was debunked from the start as charlotte did not die yet

[@Takejiro24]

@@WheatleyBuggygames "Charlotte did not die yet" Curious. How so? 👀🍵

[@shronkler1994]

@@WheatleyBuggygames is that confirmed for certain? i don't mean literally confirmed by Scott, but what's your evidence?

[@Razzberry_dollz]

I love when William doesn’t have a motive it’s so much more realistic for a serial killer

[@saeklin]

Golden Freddy is a bad bad spirit. I mean, just look at the plush in the Logbook. Does that look like a benevolent spirit to anyone? When OMC said "leave the demon to his demons" he wasn't talking about William. He was talking about Golden Freddy. "Leave Golden Freddy to his demons."

[@DeskFanMan87]

But the plush picture in the logbook isn’t Golden Freddy. I understand the view that Golden Freddy is a bad spirit but there’s just no solid evidence of that.

[@saeklin]

@@DeskFanMan87 Fair enough. I've speculated on the differences myself. I've considered possibilities like "Plush Fredbear is an AI" and "Bite Victim is possessing the Plush" and "Bite Victim is possessing GF while the Plush is just his alter-ego" and even "the plush is possessed by Mike". But I have this theory that every FNAF game in Scott's own series had to have the Golden Freddy spirit in it somewhere, and for FNAF 4 and FNAF World, it manifested as the plush.

[@HighPlaysBR]

golden freddy is good and evil at the same time, he is michael brother and cassidy

[@nicolasfredheim4074]

the later that night theory changed the way i look at the story, fact that there was way more thought behind the murders. i never liked every other theory of later that night but yours really makes sense. really valid theories and i wanna see more from you for sure.

[@DeskFanMan87]

I really liked that part of the theory too, I think my logic makes sense but unfortunately with Five Laps at Freddy’s evidence it probably is about Willam being Yellow Guy instead. Back to the drawing board for me🥲

[@jonathanrolle2046]

You can call the crying child Dave.

[@DeskFanMan87]

It will be a long transition period of me forgetting 😅

[@xpastelxbloodx]

​@@DeskFanMan87 can't believe you're deadnaming Dave smh

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@xpastelxbloodx I just got 1000 subs, I don’t wanna already be cancelled 😭

[@NotKitKat13]

⁠@@DeskFanMan87sceeenshoted. Your downfall is soon😡

[@xpastelxbloodx]

@DeskFanMan87 congrats on that btw it's well deserved :3

[@BasketChase98]

I don’t think the night 4 mini game is a springlock failure but it would be interesting seeing as the Fnaf 3 tapes instruct anyone going through a springlock failure to find somewhere secluded away from guests to bleed out. I think that’s what the fredbear plush might be referring to when it says “remember what you saw” and why the crying child is so afraid of Freddy’s in general. No one believes him about what he saw because Fazbear’s is still fully covering up how unsafe the springlocks are, since they haven’t been retired yet.

[@drakkaar6676]

So, as is tradition: "He's here, he's there He's everywhere... Who you gonna call? Psychic Friend Fred-Bear!"

[@jesuscamou602]

what if midnight motorist is meant to chronologically place the death of Charlie before the crying child.

[@DeskFanMan87]

I think that’s definitely part of it, but now it once again leaves the question of what the footprints are and what the mound is. Oh well, theory for another day.

[@sunkdid7256]

It is

[@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo]

@@DeskFanMan87I think the footprints depend on who the runaway is And the mound has lots of explanations that all makes sense, but none of them are that lore changing

[@Cross_Corp64]

@@DeskFanMan87There’s also the “What is seen in the shadows is misunderstood by the mind of a child” quote. Which kinda begs the question of how seeing a corpse would be “misinterpreted” by BV’s mind. I want to point out that BVRunaway is a bit odd as for how he went from “disobeys dad” to “obey dad and emotionally break down”; and the same goes for Mike, from “leave my bro” to “I bully my bro” Sorry if it seems like I’m getting hot headed. But with BV1st, I don’t think it affects William’s motivation, but rather it makes him ridiculed and breaks his own ego. Now leading Afton to ruin other peoples’ since he’s a jealous prick. You know what I mean? I feel like the Novel Trilogy is where there’s no Mike and BV and that it’s trying to say “Even under BV1st, Afton doesn’t give a living soul for his kids” But personally, the “who died first?” debate doesn’t affect me, and it’s not really a huge debate like the books. But it’s fine to have different point-of-views

[@MusiciansRule07]

I LOVE all the original Sprites that you included in this video. Did you make them yourself or did you commission an artist? Either way, they're wonderful and they make me even more excited to explore your channel. I've tamed my Almighty Algorithm and it has been helping me find some amazing new Theorists and now you've joined them. As for the Psyhic Friend Fredbear, I've always taken the Occam's Razor route and after seeing the easter eggs of The Private Room, I've stuck with William being the voice, whether live or in recordings. I've always thought that David got Bit before Charlie's murder but I'm picking up what you're putting down and I'll keep the idea in mind going forward. The best and worst thing about FNAF's story and timeline being so nebulous is that there are endless possibilities to explain everything until Scott himself or the Powers That Be at Steel Wool, Mega Cat, and any future developers give us solid facts to work with...well, as solid as FNAF allows. Anyway, I'm glad to have found you and I look forward to seeing what else you share with us.

[@DeskFanMan87]

Thank you! All the sprites are made by me using an 8-bit paint app, tedious but worth it. Funnily enough I made most of the assets for my “who died first” vid where I DID say that Dave got bit first. My opinions changed since then, obviously. My audio can be hit or miss at times but I’m getting the hang of it, so appreciate you watching and hope you like whatever’s next! (I’m kinda winging it)

[@hassanorisit]

It's kind of funny how many fnaf theories i've watched the past couple of days that all have been disproven in some ways due to FLAF(tho other than the now disproved Midnight Motorist part, this is a great theory!)

[@DeskFanMan87]

Yeah Ozone just had pretty much this happen

[@yahyahabibi5638]

I am glad these random theories from small youtubers are getting recommended to me it's nice seeing people giving new ideas

[@DJBurns-jq8mn]

It can be that it's possessed by CC and we are seeing his memories before he died. Think about it, at the end we immediately hear CC on his death bed implying he was there the whole time. William spying on CC is 100% confirmed via Sister Location and The Real Jake and who would be dead at that point to possess Phycic Friend Fredbear beside Charlie so it must be this option. The MCI kids were trapped in a false memory in the Novels so why can't CC be living his memories over and over again.

[@DeskFanMan87]

First point about seeing his memories before dying is fair, and I wouldn’t mind being true. About William spying on CC being confirmed in SL, that’s just not confirmed anymore. The bedroom cameras we see on display are of the test bedroom, not CC’s room. And the false memory trap for the MCI is kinda tying into point 1, so once again really like the idea.

[@DJBurns-jq8mn]

@@DeskFanMan87 thx for the reply mate. Just wamt to so that the monitors being next to the plush doesn't necessarily mean the plush is related, especially when The Real Jake only says the dad is speaking through the plush so that's why it's there, that also implies William was watch the monitors as early as 1983 and since Dittophobia takes place before Sister Location and has been active for 10 years means William started the experiments from anywhere between 1985 - 1987 after the original Freddy's closed but before the grand reopening in FNAF 2 Plus ĉ

[@jetperson3billion439]

are you planning to make a video addressing flaf’s midnight motor reveal?

[@DeskFanMan87]

Yes🥲

[@cyclingpoppy]

@@DeskFanMan87this video is great. This is similar to GiBi’s version of events, which I think is very accurate, and it’s conveyed better and also better imagined. William is not orange guy idc what the new racing game loosely implies

[@AlienRino]

@@cyclingpoppyWhat more proof would you need for it to confirm “orange” guy as William? I really don’t see much evidence for it to be an mci household member. Not to mention if Scott didn’t want an Easter egg in a game knowing it would confuse people it just wouldn’t be in there. Especially after the fiasco with SB and him not telling SWS the full story and the reason items were placed where they were.

[@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo]

@@cyclingpoppyWilliam is definitely orange guy It makes sense, everything fits together, the only problem people have is the guy being a different color, what other flaws are there?

[@TDreads]

I sure love this plush! Oh boy!

[@CainG2005]

Great video! I agree with pretty much most of the conclusion you made.

[@DeskFanMan87]

Thank you!

[@coleangelillo8147]

this was such a good theory!! just subscribed 😁🫰

[@DeskFanMan87]

Thank you!

[@kiefrichards]

legendary eyebrows my guy

[@DeskFanMan87]

My parents gave me them! Lol

[@Schokie732]

25:13 I have a theory about DCI that might explain some things, but it has some flaws. What if the DCI wasn't new murders but the bodies of the MCI kids? William would have come to the FNaF 2 location to remove the bodies inside the withered so he could continue his experiments (it would be complicated for him to melt the endos with dead bodies inside the animatronics). The rumors mentioned by Phone Guy could come from people who have smelled to odor left by the bodies, as William scatters them all over the place in the Save Them mini-game. The police could be investigating in the hope of finding the bodies and arresting William. As said, this theory has its flaws: -there's blood in the Save Them mini-game. Would 2-year-old dead bodies still have blood in them? -the bodies seem to be taller (and are similar to those in the Give Gifts Give Life mini-game). Is this another mini-game inconsistency or not? This theory has its flaws, but it would explain why the DCI kids are no longer mentioned in the franchise after FNaF 2, as they would be the bodies of the MCI kids. Good video btw!

[@DeskFanMan87]

Thanks for watching! I’ll say about this theory, I think the idea of the bodies just being the old MCI bodies is a great one, but as you pointed out the wonky think is the fresh blood. As far as them being taller, maybe just more skeletal now? Anyway it’s a good idea!

[@Schokie732]

​@@DeskFanMan87 thanks! I forgot to mention the yellow suit William used. Maybe at this point he discovers that he can be "one of them" to control them, a bit like in The Silver Eyes and the movie (that might explain why he uses a yellow suit in this context)

[@fanof5950]

Gonna watch this after i drop my brother and sisters off at home. Gonna be good to listen to on my drive

[@DeskFanMan87]

Hope you enjoy it! Also love the profile pic.

[@fanof5950]

​@@DeskFanMan87 Its a good theory, also im really happy that you talked about the DCI. I always felt that the DCI did happen.

[@azimuddin1890]

(1:55) ID’s Fantasy replied to me in a comment of mine that those could be fasteners. (3:27) I think the FredBear plush is manipulative and is never actually helping or comforting EvanBearCC (I’ll call him that cause joke). I do believe AuberginePlush, with the evidence supporting this being the same plush shown in the private room area, as seen here (4:20). Aubergine Man could be monitoring EvanBearCC, though there is the Easter egg with him putting a SpringBonnie suit on an employee in the F.N.A.F.4 third day mini-game. Despite that, I believe this. It’s similar to The Real Jake (I think that’s what it’s called) in Fazbear’s Frights stories, where Jake talks to a plushie actually his father, but doesn’t say that he is his dad, but acts as the Real Jake (I don’t know what he’s called, don’t remember). This could apply here, Aubergine Man monitoring EvanBearCC, and talks through the plushie, and acting as the character, pretending to be his friend. I think this lines up pretty well, but now the question is why did he make all this in the first place? Well I do think Elizabeth dies before EvanBearCC, and prior to her, Charlotte (Web) was the very first. I think it lines up pretty well in my opinion. (4:13) Since this game came out, and I saw this, I always believed that the Nightmare bedroom and hallway were real but not the same ones from the day mini-game since they don’t have the same layout. (5:25) What if that Phoney Easter egg wasn’t actually him, but instead the pre-recorded message reversed? It’s just that the Phoney recorded was used for that? However that doesn’t make sense when F.N.A.F.4 came out. (7:54) YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I SAW THAT VIDEOOOOOOOOOO!!!…that’s it :) (8:45) I do think the reasons you said here, well mostly. I think the reason for why the Security Puppet was made was probably to look after Charlotte (Web) similar to how the Mimic was made by Edwin, to look after his son, David (I think that’s his name?). That’s an assumption though. The Security Puppet in his mini-game, in F.N.A.F.6, was made to look after the child it’s assigned to, not looking after any other child. This could be also that (game) Henry is single, even when he had Charlotte, unlike in the CharlieDroid novel trilogy where he had a wife and a son while he had her, he just didn’t have a wife to look after her, so he made that oversized sock puppet to look after her, to protect her. I do think it was made at Freddy’s since the costume shown in the F.N.A.F.2 Give Cake mini-game was Freddy, a brown bear. (10:34) I think EvanBearCC was in the fake bedroom since what’s the point of making the fake bedroom real instead of keeping it as dreams like before? Or was it ever a dream?, or was it replicated like you said? I think the problem is it’s unclear, but I still have doubts. (16:36) I didn’t noticed those grinders things were inside CharlieDroid no.4?! (22:08) WAIT, THAT’S THE GUY FROM DAYSHIFT AT FREDDY’S SERIES!!!

[@Trontotario]

Also fnaf world says “he put the pieces together” this is the puppet kid since originally the child possessing that animatronic was a boy which was later retconned in fnaf 6. I say this because it was the marionette that put the happiest day together which fulfills that prophecy or promise of “I will put you back together” this now means that the speaker behind the fredbear plush is Charlotte Emily

[@DeskFanMan87]

THIS is really interesting, I like that callout.

[@Invalidcookie-bv4cx]

My Theory is It is "Something" that can touch the Flipside (death) and the real world. There are only a few people that can do that in this story. Golden Freddy,The Puppet, Michael, Afton and possibly Baby. Henry might have been able to find a way but we can only guess. Since we only hear from him once in the whole story. In New FNAF we assume GlitchTrap can contact anyone with the Vanny Mask Implant. (Cassie and Vanessa)

[@JustNate112]

Ok. Theory. All of the shadow animatronics are the agony of the missing the children. They are freed in happiest day, when CC's/Dave's memories are made into a happy one, like in the books. The only one that remains is Charlie, and I don't think it's a coincidence that the shadow shadow we see in modern day is Shadow Bonnie.

[@DeskFanMan87]

More along the Rye Toast/ ID fantasy route of trying Shadow Bonnie to Charlie? Interesting…

[@JustNate112]

@@DeskFanMan87 I'm just saying. Also, my theories aren't usually seen by the creators of the videos I comment under, so thank you.

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@JustNate112 thank you for sharing! I try to read as many comments as I get notified about.

[@JustNate112]

@DeskFanMan87 you know, I have plans to share my theories on my channel. Not to promote, but there us a video talking about that.

[@Bearcolada]

This video COOKED! I love it and it makes sense. (Even the MCIMM bit. lol) Glad I was randomly recommended it.

[@DeskFanMan87]

I’m glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching 😁

[@Levee-kx6ul]

This was really good and i think a lot of your points explaon stuff so well. But then you mentioned andrew at the end... Overall awesome theory, i think aloy of your evidence is now a part of my head canon for the series

[@TerrorByte69420]

I don't think that the plush is literally an imaginary friend but more of a projection of Evan's feelings and thoughts onto the plush along with afton also using the speaker inside it.

[@HolyMoonlight3]

Dave. His name is Dave.

[@TerrorByte69420]

@@HolyMoonlight3"uhmmm actually..☝🤓"

[@HolyMoonlight3]

@@TerrorByte69420 That is literally me fr lol

[@AlienRino]

@@HolyMoonlight3It’s actually Nave if you disregard the last phrase like most Evan believers do 🤓

[@Trontotario]

It’s Charlie, it is possible since if Cassidy and the bite victim are able to communicate through a book then same can be said with the fredbear plush and Charlie

[@DeskFanMan87]

Maybe, she’s been associated with a bear since then (lefty) so I don’t think it’s impossible

[@Razzberry_dollz]

Gabriel Jermey and Cassidy were killed together tho all Susie and Fritz were first 2 and then the 3 the next day 2 then 3

[@Glitchxiety]

I enjoyed the video, nice work man. Thanks for the shoutout too I appreciate it :)

[@DeskFanMan87]

Hey thanks! 😁

[@scorpiolight]

Those canisters aren’t for gas though, they’re oxygen tanks. You can tell because your oxygen goes down whenever the minireenas mess with them.

[@DeskFanMan87]

Important to point out that Scott said the gameplay of Custom Night in that game isn’t canon, but the cutscenes are. And even if those specific tanks aren’t the experiment gas, there’s a multitude of other tanks everywhere in the game. (It was also just easier to use as a visual for the video)

[@ediblefredible]

ITS ME, long-ass-comment guy! congrats on 1k man!! we still gotta get that number UPskies though 😤 but i digress, onto the fnafs, 6:54 an idea i've had is that it's possible instead of a mistake, the intention could've been just to kind of put some emphasis on that line. there's not much you can do with just text as far as dramatization, and i'll point you to michael's speech for a comparison. his last line being repeated where it gets all dragged out and compressed and whatever- im sure we all remember the miketrap/mikebot debacles because of that, when all it turned out to be was for dramatic effect. a similar situation could be happening with the changed text color (with the real oopsie being that it was the same color as pigtail girls text, in this case) and there's no hidden meaning to it at all 🤷🏻‍♂️ 7:45 ohhhh man! CRAZY take, but just crazy enough to be great......gonna Have to watch sethxiety's vid after this too (tysm for sourcing vids you get ideas from!) 15:12 LETS GOOO CC!PLUSH BELIEVER NO WAY?? i knew you were one of my fave theorists for a reason lmfaoo 25:04 this is 100% in line with his character imo. if there's one thing we know about this dude other than that he's a monster, it's that he's OBSESSIVE. to an Extreme fault. (other than the novels, the movie backs this up a bit too i think). so of course he'd do whatever it takes to get back to those animatronics, his potential Creations no less 27:44 ooo i like this theory; i've heard just about every shadow bonnie theory under the sun, and plenty of agony ones, but not with the point that it takes the form of bonnie specifically for that reason. love that. it's always been the biggest thing that's bothered me about him, WHY toy bonnie. somebody give me a compelling reason. (and here it is! 😎) 34:01 nah omg, the animation of henry peeking in with the blank face and casually sealing the wall up with will's little tear is killing me 😭 (you might've even used that in another vid, but my memory is just bunk so i got to enjoy it again if that's the case lol) as usual- great stuff, and can't wait for whatever the next one will be :)

[@DeskFanMan87]

Ah man I appreciate the congrats!! And all the observations here, and just want to say I really like you pointing out the final speaker could have just been dramatic effect, but got misinterpreted like how MikeTrap happened. And glad to give an explanation about Shadow Bonnie, even I don’t know if I fully believe it but it makes sense to me.

[@ediblefredible]

@@DeskFanMan87 ahh, it's fnaf, you can believe one thing and suddenly watch a theory and it'll completely change your mind. hard to fully believe anything in this economy lol but tysm! im glad that idea struck a chord :D

[@Afton-ph9uw]

No way! Our endings of our timelines for UCN are almost identical! Here’s what I believe After the Fnaf6 fire, Cassidy’s soul stays alive to make sure that Afton stays dead. She creates a torment of 50 characters for to attack William. Once he’s dead, he stays dead. But Andrew keeps William alive and Cassidy keeps her soul alive for to convince Andrew to rest his soul and let Afton die because he’s no longer a threat. Old Man Consequences tells Cassidy to leave the demon to his demons, implying William and Andrew, and to rest her own soul. Cassidy listens to Old Man Consequences and drowns herself in the lake. In the game files, drowning in the lake is called ‘Your own happiest day.’ So I think this implies that Cassidy drowning herself in the lake is her own personal happiest day. Everyone gets there happiest day except for Andrew and Afton because of Andrews vengeance and Aftons lust for blood. After Cassidy rests her soul, Fazbear Frights and the epilogues happen. And I also believe Michael didn’t die in the Fnaf6 fire and escaped for to make sure that the souls moved on and to make sure that Fazbear Entertainment didn’t revive itself You’re a really underrated channel and you have one of the best timelines that I have seen so far!

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@Afton-ph9uw thanks for the high praise! I think the narrative you’ve laid out here is great, mildly disagree about Mike sticking around but that’s not terribly important. Thanks for the good read!

[@Afton-ph9uw]

@@DeskFanMan87 One thing just to add on, I personally think that Andrew is Old man consequences. Andrew is associated with wearing an alligator mask and Old Man Consequences looks like he’s wearing an alligator mask. I think Andrew is telling Cassidy to leave it up to him. “Leave the demon to his demons. He is referring to HIMSELF as the demons. He’s basically trying to tell Cassidy to rest her soul and leave up to him to deal with Afton

[@Afton-ph9uw]

@@DeskFanMan87 Im still not 100% sure if I believe this though, it is just something that I thought of. You can also see Old Man Consequences fishing. Which could imply Andrew is toying with William Afton

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@Afton-ph9uw I’ve had that idea before, but the demon like I interpreted more as yeah, him as a “demon” but mostly Williams own sins being thrown back at him.

[@tristandimitrijev3195]

Imagine the irony if afton did mrders before the MCi for the sore pupris to do black market organ selling that he uses money to finance the building of the animatronics, the tehnology behind it and sister location.

[@clashfire_editz]

Amazing edited video btw. You can make 2 separate timelines(One based on Scott originally and the other being constantly edited by Steel Wool), but going off of recent games The Bite or Scooping event has to happen first. Why? Well, 1985 has been a fixed date for the MCI, and in HW2 there is a specific order to light the graves to obtain the Mask (Chica, Foxy, Freddy, Bonnie, Golden Freddy, and the puppet). Now Obviously this is definitely not Scott's intended Narritve. Personally I would lean more to the present games to explain out past games, like how you used the nightmare gas to explain away the gas pipe system in Sister Location. My "Oversimplified" timeline( This contains the usage of speculation to fill in parts of the timeline that doesn't make sense) would personally be The Secret of the mimic Carnival being burned down forces all clown related animatronics too move to a location that would later be known as Babys Pizza World(Hand Unit says Closure of Freddys Pizza, allowed Babys Pizza world to open up), here's the cool part the Mimic would have probably done something bad to one the kids at fall fest and William out of desperation would stuff that innocent kids body inside one of the suits( to keep it a secret), rember in hw2 there is a lot of fire imagery, fires in fnaf are always intentional . If all of this does play out then it can explain the backstory for the events in the fnaf 4 minigames, because logically in the timeline there is no other explanation for these questions: What did the crying child see to make him so afraid(Mimic killing a child), Why does he hate Freddys but still be fine with a golden plush and the rest of the freddy gang, he's scared if the mimcs in there. whatever the origin story of the new game is can explain off a lot of questions in the fnaf 4 minigames for sure. The only question it doesn't explain is that Elisabeth's empty room with Mangle???? I honestly have no clue about that. Continuing on the timeline, William would make a plush to monitor the crying child and make sure the crying child is safe from the mimic. This reason would make Williams actions so much easier to understand ( And personally I think William made the original MXES program, and Henry caused the fire for fall fest 1979). Sadly William forgot to account for one thing his other Adopted son Mike Smith(The Sister Location tv show shorts clearly say that Micheal isn't Williams biological son). After this tragic moment William would start to go insane and try to put his son back together, while henry has to hold the Company together, Eventually Willam for some reason killed 5 kids across 1985 forcing the close of Freddys Pizza due to health code violations. Next in 1986-1987, Baby Pizza World Opens on the first day Micheal was watching over his sister and saw the scoop, Why else is there a Baby minigame in sister location; Micheal saw that. Also in fnaf 4 as confirmed in the logbook micheal sees Nightmare Fredbar with a stomach mouth just like Baby. Eventually Mid Night moterist happened, this night takes place like this: William got angry over losing 2 of kids and seeing better version of himself in henry he got really envy over the life henrys having. So willaim in a druken spite of rage wanted to murder all the kids in Fredbears Diner, but sees charile conveniently trapped outside he has no hesitation and murders her in the rain.. Then In a fit of rage Afton Banishs micheal to solitude inside the bunker and pumps nightmare gas and Keeps Micheal in a false reality (Father of the year 😇). This leads to Fnaf 2, Where William kills more kids and in 1987 Jermemy Fritzgerald gets bit. This forced Fazbear Entertainment to relocate and use remaining funds to start backup fnaf 1. Before that though Mike after his slumber party does what his dad told him and went over to the fnaf 2 location to tamper with the animatronic since William can not enter the building, and micheal straight up burns down the fnaf 2 location(Due to burned look of withred foxy and ballon boy). Fnaf 1 in 1993, Micheal succcefuualy tampers with animatronics applying the error code that restricts the animatronics from the safe room(The security check says that Micheal Tampered and had odor). Now William after ordering around 50+ dead kids, most with the help of his funtime Amatronics, trys to learn about remeant and goes to the old fnaf 1 location and disassembled the fnaf 1 anmatronics gets springlocjed and henry barricades the safe room. Micheal finds that his dad is gone and sees a letter saying to put her back together and listens as he goes back down and returns to a place where memories sleep (painful ones). Micheal discovers everything even the fake world he thought he lived in. Baby and the rest trick him, and micheal get scooped. Around sometime Micheal spits out the robot spegetthi and become immortal by posseing his own flesh, and he wants to kill off his father. Then the robo clan boots out baby, 2023 rolls around fnaf 3 happens even the puppet spectates and along with the help of cassidy and the other original missing kids puts crying child to rest from fnaf world. Micheal burns down the fnaf 1 location to kill off his father which fails. And Fnaf 6 rolls around henry after trying to stop William sets up one final trap a box you could say and burns down everyone who was killed or harmed by William. Everyone dies, UCN happens, and Cassidy refuses to die which keeps William alive. Fnaf Vr,Ar,Fnaf Vr 2, and Security Breach all happen and now the Og threat of Fnaf is free into the world thanks to it manipulating cassie THE END for now. Ok that was a lot 😅 But that's just my oversimplified timeline. If you read all of this thank you and I can answer any of your questions. Hope your channel blows up. ♥

[@DeskFanMan87]

Oh wow, there’s a lot of drastic changes here, like William panic stuffing after mimic killing, crying child seeing mimic kill, Charlie dying WAYYYY later, and Mike putting in the FNAF 1 animatronics code to prevent them from seeing safe room. Insanely detailed alternate narrative. First, appreciate the compliment about the editing, means a ton! And second, make a KZbin video! This is so much content, deserves to be seen by more people than just a comment here. More voices in the community is never a bad thing!

[@clashfire_editz]

@@DeskFanMan87 Thx this theory has been slow cooking for a while as it looks like the steel wool timeline is the official timeline. Your timeline revolves around Scott’s thought process but now the story is being handled by steel wool. All of the drastic measures I said is just filler and I’m excited for secret of the mimic. As for making a video, I’m going to be focusing on school so I probably won’t be making a video. But if you would like I can share info about this theory and you can make a video as your editing far more supreme then mine. Thx for reading my super long explanation😅

[@imjustember]

The fastest introduction statement known to man kind. So fast you cut off a portion of “at” in “at the time”. At 0:00

[@DeskFanMan87]

I watch 90 percent of KZbin vids at 1.75 speed, so it’s just normal for me 😅

[@azimuddin1890]

For the lore, I think this is the most convincing one. Would like a video all on its own but I’ll put a timestamp for myself to watch that portion. Definitely great! While I’m against speculation, but that’s just me, I still think you did a good job tying everything in a way that might be what the overall story actually is, minus Midnight Motorcycle thing, as you acknowledge with FLAFFY’s. Though still some things I disagree are… - EvanBearCC nightmares to experiments. - Midnight Motorcycle - The Poopette stuffing the Crappiest Day kids, but I’m mixed due to evidence for Aubergine Stuff. - Maybe Andrew, but I’m a little mix cause on one hand, it’s a new character in the final game of this original story, but on the other hand, he’s literally the Vengeful Spirit from the Fazzy Fright Nights book. Overall, good job! Timestamp for the story - 11:06

[@hibye2727]

1 - awesome video, super surprised to see your subscriber count, a blind watch had me assuming you're huge in the space! Super high quality stuff. 2 - I think the theory relies on CC (Dave anyone?) being the "player" of both the FNAF 4 gameplay and minigames.I personally lean towards Michael actually being the one that experienced FNAF4's gameplay given his drawing of a nightmare animatronic in the Logbook. 3 - I also think it's taking the CC days until the party minigames a bit too literally to assume we are CC and experiencing what happened, exactly as it happened - the plush just knows wayyy too much. Are we assuming that William keeps one eye on CC at any given moment? 4- If the minigames are mostly real, why is the plush stalking and spectating and teleporting through the areas instead of just being held somehow? While yes, if the minigame is through the eyes of a child, maybe it makes sense to imbue the talking plush with this magic air of ominscience by depicting it like that. HOWEVER, for Scott as a storyteller, why add this detail that only confuses players and theorists? I don't think if Willplush is true, he'd represent the plush like that. 5 - This is more incidental, but why would William love and want to protect Dave, and also run horrific nightmare experiments on him? Instead of Michael, the son I think we agree William sees as more disposable?

[@DeskFanMan87]

Glad you liked the video! Addressing the last point, I don’t think he loves Dave. He’s testing him, and that’s the extent of it imo. All his kids are assets for him to use, he owns them from his perspective. Also as far as Scott making the plush so strange in 4 and Willplush, the story did pivot a bit between 4 and SL. It’s maybe a cop out, but that’s what I think.

[@AzulioSwoop]

I feel like fredbear plush is haunted and also i believe that we'll figure out more about the ghost in secrets of the mimic (I really hope so at least)

[@matthewmusco2581]

Interesting that you bring up the paper pals after we just got that info of the mimic game that shows a kind of clown mask that’s more similar to the 3rd paper pal than the puppet. Personally before the 3rd pal had his nose color changed I thought it was just supposed to be the child that made the other two, as if he was hanging out with them

[@DeskFanMan87]

It could also be the Jester from the books

[@afro.sensei]

looks like that 3rd paper pal might actually be the mimic! :o

[@lewisbaldwin9683]

Wasn’t this kind of solved? Crying child is Mikes younger brother, the plush was William using a Walkie talkie inside the plus, the empty girls room is Elizabeth room after being killed by baby. We play as the crying child on his death bed.

[@DeskFanMan87]

It’s still debated, a lot of people have been leaning towards the plush being a manifestation from CC that becomes Shadow Freddy or something else, so thought I’d put my 2 cents in.

[@Welcometoyourlocalchannel]

@@DeskFanMan87 Wait, CC=Shadow Freddy is making a resurgence?

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@Welcometoyourlocalchannel I wouldn’t say that, just giving an example of how many different opinions there are

[@Welcometoyourlocalchannel]

@@DeskFanMan87 I thought we would have another wave of Shadow Freddy is C.C in Gacha life for a second-

[@porcelainchips6061]

What if the "stuffing" into suits is entirely metaphorical? Meaning, what if they are the "missing children" because one by one Afton kidnapped them and dragged them down into the fear experiment below the Freddy's building? They each die, one after another and every time he drags down a "fresh" one as a replacement. Then, what if the grey-scale spirits "floated" up to the restaurant and exist there disembodied? Then eventually Charlie dies, but is the first to possess something and assigns each of the ghosts she sees floating around to a physical animatronic; giving the "gift" of "life" instead of leaving them in a looping fever dream of their last memories (like how CC is trapped in his memories in FNAF4). In FNAF3 we are shown that the grey-scale pixel people are the disembodied ghosts removed from their bodies; in "save him" we see the child outside become grey. What if "becomes grey" means "becomes a ghost"? Charlie died outside of the building and became a spirit without a body; which is why she latches onto the puppet; a robot isn't alive, so it can never die so it can always serve as a vessel to dwell within. By extension then the smell of rot from the suits is caused by the haunting manifesting; it comes and goes which means complaints are filed but technically nothing is there whenever they get checked. The puppet is a good example of this; Charlie's body was never stuffed into the puppet; her spirit took possession of after she left her own body and had nowhere to "go", nowhere to "be". This could re-contextualize Happiest day; the Party might have been to "assign" Crying Child to Golden Freddy, so his spirit could escape the loop. But once freed from the loop CC discovers someone else is already inhabiting what he's been "assigned" to and that entity is vengeful.

[@DeskFanMan87]

Not a bad idea, for a long time the bodies physically being in the suits was always just implied, but the movie actually outright had Vanessa say the bodies were in the suits. I know, different continuity’s but this carries over imo. As far as all of them being test victims, the MCI can’t be too far apart from one another, at the max 2-3 days. It just doesn’t give that narrative much time to occur. I’ll say the rest (besides the vengeful stuff but that’s not as important) you make good observations. With Charlie possessing the puppet and not being inside of it, it’s shown in the series you don’t HAVE to be stuffed a few times, but in my opinion to cause forced possession, stuffing or having the victim be inside of their vessel, preferably a metal one, has the most consistent results. IMO William learns this from Baby. I appreciate the comment!

[@porcelainchips6061]

@@DeskFanMan87 You're right about the timing of the MCI, I hadn't actually thought about it. It's just that I find it weird that it's call "the missing children incident" but also people in-universe seem to have a shared cultural knowledge or idea of people getting stuffed. That's where the "they were taken away" idea came from; literally "missing" instead of right there but going unnoticed. The other bit that continues to confuse me, and made me wonder about them being "missing" is this there's some themes or notions in the series of Afton being a kidnapper (depending on the media in question) yet he never kidnaps anyone, seemingly, in the main series / the game series? Overall I just babble in an attempt to connect the dots; Your videos present a lot of fun ideas to chew on.

[@PositiveNihilism.]

I think it's possible that Circus Baby got into the Secret Security room, From Sister Location. And Communicated through the FredBear Plush. Focused on Putting her Brother back together. William Just Experimented on his son, Viewing him as Just another Machine,

[@DeskFanMan87]

That’s an interesting idea, but I just don’t know how much autonomy Baby had and if she could do that.

[@PositiveNihilism.]

@@DeskFanMan87 Since Circus Baby has those Pins in her Body, I think she can move and Do a Whole Lot More. She Could Even Exit out of Her Shell.

[@drquem4279]

I think there's one thing you get wrong. Charlie more likely Dies at Freddy's, and not in a Fredbear's. Due to Midnight Motorist of course and how it is Layout with Jr's being Fredbear's after it closes. The Conections to Security Puppet, etc. I also dont agree that Circus Baby is the Sister Location but Thats not really the main Topic. (bah, ok, sorry, even without FLAP, there was no way is a MCI. William would be Dead. And Toy Chica describes Orange Man's Action "She goes by the door and when he doesnt open THEN she finds the Window".) And also, Charlie Probably is The One who stuff The Kids in The Suits, Probably, The Movie.

[@DeskFanMan87]

I concede to MM being about Afton, but I still don’t think JR’s is Fredbear’s, I don’t even think it’s an animatronic/pizza place. Charlie dying at Fredbear’s is honestly something I’m probably never going to change my opinion on unless it’s directly told to me with neon lights lol. Your Toy Chica line analysis is something I’ve thought about after FLAF and you’re right, but it also complicates all the cutscenes as no longer being 1:1, just broad retellings of things. I’ll need to cover it later.

[@drquem4279]

@@DeskFanMan87 I never thought on Them being 1:1 retellings Since Toy Chica also burns a House. Imagine William using a House to Look, There are Two reasons why i think Jr's is Fredbear's after its closing 1 - Its called Jr's, so is a restaurant no more 2 - Its Location relative to The Afton House. Like, considering this Minigame is a Direct continuation to Security Puppet (Which is heavily implied It is), why Would William drive at 250MPH? Since we know for a Fact that Afton live close to Fredbear's. Also, with The Layout of Sister Location's Break Room, we could Sat this were The First Place were The House was Built but Maybe It isnt, is Just speculation. Also, a neat Detail that you missed (I dont blame you Because of How suttle It is), but The FNAF 4 house was Probably Built with The Runnaway in Mind (Which i believe is Mike), sine The Bedroom's Doors have no lockers on It and The Bedroom also doesnt have a Window, Which parallels The exact two things The Runnaway used to Run Scott free... Untill he came back of Course.

[@vallytine]

I think ultimately your own personal timeline should just be what you think is cool. I personally follow the timeline in the FNAF VHS fan-series since it has a more satisfying conclusion to me, where it ends at FNAF 3 with the good ending. However there's no reason that can't also be Pizza Sim, like if FNAF 3 was the bad ending where Michael went to kill William, but wasn't able to because he didn't understand enough about the missing children to set them free, or some spirit mumbo jumbo that leads to causality where he isn't able to kill William, maybe he chickens out or whatever. Then all of that's done through Pizza Sim by Michael, which with the help of Henry and Charlie they're all put to rest, and that's where Happiest Day and FNAF 3's good ending takes place. In the actual gameplay of FNAF 3 we're just seeing echoes of the future. Personally I don't really follow much of the Cassidy stuff, like the UCN and survival logbook is mostly after my time being a real FNAF megafan, so I always just went with the Crying Child (Joseph to me, thanks to FNAF VHS) being the one inside Fredbear and being the vengeful spirit whose malice towards Michael and William stops the rest from moving on.

[@DeskFanMan87]

As long as someone personally gets satisfaction out of the story they believe, I honestly think that’s great. FNAF is basically built to have AU’s around it so IMO go crazy!

[@angelic428]

15:25 "there is no solid evidence of this" I HEAVILY disagree, there are so many things that go in this interpretation's favor and I am very glad you also believe this. No other time in the series has a soul been inexplicably just bonded with an item it died no where near of. The Crying Child to this day has so much evidence against him dying anywhere near Fredbear, so him immediately possessing it makes zero sense. i've always thought this, and I am really glad to see someone actually talk about this in the modern era of fnaf. Of course, at some point he does end up in Fredbear/Golden Freddy, but so many people just ignore the question of how possesses it in the first place.

[@denisszm]

Couldn't the disappearing of the bodies be argued with the contract, where it says "Upon discovering that damage or death has occurred, a missing person report will be filed within 90 days, or as soon property and premises have been thoroughly cleaned and bleached, and the carpets have been replaced.” Blah blah blah." That covers only damage, missing or death and everyone is enforced to follow so i would say they would actually discard the bodies and bleach, clean and change the carpets.

[@DeskFanMan87]

Assuming you’re referring to in FNAF 2, what happened to the bodies in the withereds? It’s possible.

[@denisszm]

@DeskFanMan87 yea, that's what im referring to

[@ayuubabdi9053]

Yooo awesome video. I love this video on the explanation of the fredbear plush and agree that it’s definitely William afton. I do disagree on some things in the video such as the bv plush, the time placement on fnaf world, and for the MCI kids not being influenced by William after the MCI and/or influenced later in the timeline with the funtimes. (Correct me on the last part if that’s isn’t true which in that case sorry for the misunderstanding). That said though, the video is great and I can’t wait for the next one. Also I do want to say that while Willam did discover possession because of Charlie possessing the puppet, I also think there is something else he discovered with the puppet behavior. I can tell you about it if you want me to. Anyways keep up with the awesome videos.❤

[@DeskFanMan87]

I’d definitely like to hear what you think the other paranormal thing William sees is besides the puppet!

[@ayuubabdi9053]

@@DeskFanMan87 I think that it’s the influence that Henry had onto Charlie that made her act this way. Charlie having a good life, with her father caring for her and even made a animatronic that is made to watch and protect Charlie. After her death she does the same things that Henry would do, to watch and protect others. And I think that Charlie had a choice to move on but didn’t to protect others from William. This made William interested as he saw the puppet act like Henry and his morals and goals. Which fulfills him to make a goal of having a animatronic family that would act like him and have his influence over them like the MCI kids as his family. Mainly because William was not only interested in how Henry was able to put a piece of his soul in the Ella doll and giving the Charlie bots life, but also how Henry made the Charlie bots into his memory of Charlie, influencing it that cause William to replicate the things Henry did. Hence why he replicate this through the Funtimes or the MCI with the whole happiest day. Another example would be Jake in the book where Evan and Margie love for Jake and giving him hope have made his soul be emotionally attached to the Simon doll, that have spread his positivity towards others like what Evan and Margie did to jake. What do you think?

[@Swd_rs]

the humanoid paper pal is funky tom (according to some theories but believe it)

[@jamboozled]

I havent watched the video fully yet but i just wanted to say that i absoloutely love ur editing style. Do you yourself make the little animations of the sprites moving ? I think that its rlly cool

[@DeskFanMan87]

Thank you! Yeah, I make the animations myself just in CapCut. I make the backgrounds and stuff in a pixel art app. Even if people disagree with my theories, I like to make sure the presentation is nice 😎

[@jamboozled]

@@DeskFanMan87 the theory is very good so far!! And yes the presentation is very cool 🙏🙏

[@HappyFrogRender6502]

Help Wanted 2 says that the MCI happened before Charlie's dead

[@DeskFanMan87]

I disagree, I currently believe it’s giving a release order of the spirits due to them being poppet dolls.

[@HappyFrogRender6502]

@@DeskFanMan87 Good opinion

[@Jazzatic2011]

I have not seen the toy chick high school years in full but since the release of some lore based things and discussion. If golden Freddy is 2 souls, the head vs body… and if this character here 21:27 was an allegory for golden Freddy and the eyes are the window of the soul, then 2 colored irises could be a nod to 2 different people which would be a neat detail. Or just a stretch. But idk I’m new to the deep lore.

[@DeskFanMan87]

Perhaps, regular Pig Patch (the character that pig is based on) has the 2 different eyes already, but maybe it’s possible.

[@Andre-vt4np]

The paper palls clown could also be the mimic, because it is shown to be a clown

[@yureisrandomadventures]

Fredbear plush wasn't in the mechanic room with the crying child when he was locked in, like doesn't anyone find it weird that's like the only time we don't see him?

[@DeskFanMan87]

Also don’t see it on night 5. If I remember correctly the “tomorrow is another day” line was meant to pop up on night 4 but didn’t, don’t remember exactly why.

[@EmotianalBrat]

I do believe in the will plush for sure however I don’t really believe that cc was the one who was in the experiential chamber but still I really love this theory tho…. Great work and good narrative

[@DeskFanMan87]

Maybe it didn’t come across right, I don’t think CC was in the test chambers, but I think William made them based off CC’s real dreams. He would have put him in the chamber, but the bite happens so he can’t.

[@EmotianalBrat]

@@DeskFanMan87 ooh sorry my bad no but still it’s a good theory

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@EmotianalBrat it’s all good, and I appreciate it😁

[@phoneguy4637]

I am convinced that the Fredbear plush is William Afton. In a secret office in FNaF-SL you will find the counterpart of the Fredbear plush, including a walkie-talkie lying next to it.

[@emdiggy3110]

Its gonna be so weird calling him dave

[@DeskFanMan87]

Gonna be a transition process to get used to it😅

[@lourdespachla6516]

Guys, hear me out, what if the fredbear plush is the fredbear plush?

[@DeskFanMan87]

😱

[@moltenren3439]

well the crying child is the youngest Afton, and the empty girls room belonged to Elizabeth. also 1985 is confirmed to be the MCI thanks to the Into the Pit game adaptation

[@FevereirOriginn]

Nah elizabeth is the youngest

[@moltenren3439]

@@FevereirOriginn probably, I meant to say youngest afton brother, not sure how I forgot that lol

[@FevereirOriginn]

@@moltenren3439 lmao Actually she is

[@HappyFrogRender6502]

​@@FevereirOriginnHow? (I just want to know where it says, I also think she is the youngest)

[@FevereirOriginn]

@@HappyFrogRender6502 fnaf ar confirms iy

[@TengryEmily1982]

In fact, I was talking through PlushBear, the connection was cut off

[@Dmrgamingdoesgames]

This entire theory hinges on those 2 options from the start being the only ones available. Which is just untrue.

[@DeskFanMan87]

True, but there are other people that have simply done it better than I could have, this video in particular is great kzbin.info/www/bejne/opDSioOpZduUaqMsi=oG_Zf-7oiy2Vk3Pc

[@Dmrgamingdoesgames]

@@DeskFanMan87 wait so do u just not believe the theory u made a video on? That feels disingenuous

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@Dmrgamingdoesgames no, I believe my theory, but for a narrative in a video it’s cleaner to present 2 options and go from there, and I don’t want to make the video already longer than it needs to by addressing theories I don’t believe when others have done it better.

[@I_Pizza]

Any thoughts on CC not having the plush on night 3? Thats been my hangup w/ WillPlush lately 🤔

[@DeskFanMan87]

Maybe a bit of a cop out, but my idea with Cassidy looking at Crying Child’s memories is that things aren’t necessarily perfectly represented or accurate. Maybe the plush doesn’t show up this time because William is in that scene, so the plush doesn’t need to.

[@I_Pizza]

@@DeskFanMan87 William’s in Night 2, not Night 3 unfortunately. I think the idea of them being inaccurate is very possible, in Frights we see people experience altered and even fabricated memories. Though, im not sure where the line would be drawn of what we can and can’t trust. Does CC think the plush is his imaginary friend in the memory but not in the real events? Was his dynamic with the plush changed in the memory because Cassidy is now there? Why doesnt the Cassidy plush help him in night 4 and 5? Maybe im just confusing myself... 😵‍💫

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@I_Pizza sorry, I was thinking 3rd cutscene not third night, because technically the first cutscene is before night 1. As far as how CC perceives it, it’s a kid, probably isn’t questioning it too much or does think it’s an actual imaginary friend. But that’s my best explanation at the moment.

[@I_Pizza]

@@DeskFanMan87 fair enough!

[@Hapsetshut]

hehe paper pals, riight

[@DeskFanMan87]

Made a post about it lol

[@Freakonic]

I think "dave" is possessing the fredbear plush tho i could be wrong

[@alanimet_es]

No. At the end the freadbears plush I caring and tries to comfort cc. But in other minigames the plush is making cc more afraid. Even „tomorrow is another day” is kind of evil if you think about it. Tomorrow there will be more experiments, tomorrow you would be forced to go to the place you fear. The plush trap game is weird. The kid is afraid of losing. William traumatized and broke his son. But somebody else is going to put him back together.

[@DeskFanMan87]

I’m assuming this is meant to be supporting the final speaker being a different person. Yeah, that’s fair, I say that Yellow Eyes in World is Cassidy and she says pretty much the exact same stuff as Fredbear on night 6, but then the line from Nightmare Fredbear in UCN really swings me the other way. Evidence for both, but I feel like one is just word association and the other is a direct call out at you, William in UCN, that you are not a friend. But I get both sides.

[@alanimet_es]

@@DeskFanMan87yes that supports the final speaker being a different person. Not to long ago I believed that William was the one going to put cc back together but then I learned about shattered/memory victim and my beliefs changed. Also I think that the night 4 spring lock suit was not only blamed but used by William to spring lock Elizabeth’s dead body.

[@jimyoutube1]

scott told us about the box

[@Cross_Corp64]

Holy Smokes!!! I’m on board with WillPlush but I’m 50/50 with BVPlush. I believe that post-Bite83 BV and Fredbear Plush were put in the box which then got BV to be lost and now start following Michael around, thus “FollowVictim”. I want to touch on the conclusion that Flaf didn’t give us pansexual but rather AftonMM confirmation I assume. How do you feel about the detail implying AftonMM? Even though you’re version of Phase 1 is literally entertainment and amazing, I have multiple disagreements and it’s not all of them (most of them 😓) But yeah it’s a great video of a Stitchline edition, it’s that some Reddit posts didn’t feel entertaining (cuz it’s Reddit) but your video felt more breath taking. Tbh, yeah I get the idea that people would come to the same conclusion with a question on the end part, but I feel like people should make theories on what they’re comfortable with and show them to others, and not criticize each other with a debate. Yeah, love the video- doesn’t mean I agree with most of it

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@Cross_Corp64 even if there’s disagreements, I really do appreciate the actual constructive feedback. Also, for the whole follow victim thing, I like the idea but for me it just again feels like trying to fit the box into something it just isn’t meant to. Ynow what I mean? It just feels like it can go anywhere.

[@Cross_Corp64]

@@DeskFanMan87 Sorry, but I think FollowVictim could go either way and show BV was attached to Michael all along. I’m not really sold on ShatterVictim but I think under FollowVictim, Mike’s scooping is where BV woke up and had his memories split onto Ennard and later interacts with Cassidy. Personally, I like to fit the Logbook within the timeline after all. Idk, my brain is tired over the FNAF lore now 😓

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@Cross_Corp64 it is tiring lol, I try not to take it too seriously, I love FNAF but it is just a story after all.

[@Cross_Corp64]

@@DeskFanMan87 Yeah, I get a bit heated and a bit passionate. But instead, I enjoy the fun. When there’s new FNAF content, I’ll be happy about it that we get stories like this. So I might take a long break for a while

[@wizardlyfrog]

Michael was also a child.

[@azimuddin1890]

(8:45) Funny this video is doing almost as good, it may surpass the Who died first video. I was gonna comment that you may not know if your future videos will do better than that video, and well, it didn’t surpass it, but it’s getting there.

[@supermilesxd5358]

I would like to highlight joedoughboi's original theory video as the most interesting interpretation of what the fredbear plush was before SL. I think its a interesting interpretation!

[@DeskFanMan87]

Looked up their channel, what’s the name of the video? I’d be interested in seeing it. (Edit) I think I found it. Long, but I’ll check it out eventually.

[@supermilesxd5358]

@DeskFanMan87 Yeah it’s the “fnaf original story solved” video, very clickbaity lol but I do think it’s actually the closest 1-4 story without dream theory

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@supermilesxd5358 I had watched it before! Gonna rewatch it again though, I didn’t recognize the channel name.

[@supermilesxd5358]

@DeskFanMan87 I would say really look at the imagery in 1-4. Every hallucination in the games is in the black void, and the 6 am screen is in the black void too. I’m also pretty sure that the puppets music box theme is called “my grandfathers clock”, and I think the fredbear plush’s line “tomorrow is a another day” makes sense if you look at it that way

[@themilkman7921]

Bruh! I was nodding along to most of this information but when you said Andrew I had to pause and write this comment LOL. I don't agree with a lot of what you said, and you do have an interesting perspective. The Andrew part is the only bit that just really shocks me since there's no way he can be canon to the games...

[@DeskFanMan87]

I respect the opinion, for me I see no harm in believing Andrew, especially since it really only affects UCN at the moment.

[@TengryEmily1982]

Really. Why do we need another evil child who distorts FNAF4 and FNAF WORLD (BVRec does not work), we remove the role of Cassidy and Golden Freddy

[@azimuddin1890]

(8:45) Look, this video (currently) has x1.773 more views than the other video!

[@josh_7123]

so stitchline is canon to the games?

[@DeskFanMan87]

I believe most of Frights is canon, yes.

[@Shadowdev5055]

No

[@stanimirmilushev3008]

3 paper stickman is the mimic

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@stanimirmilushev3008 potentially! Let’s wait till SOTM for more info, it’s a good guess by GT tho.

[@neuplop]

What about fnaf help wanted 2 confirming charlie was after the mci

[@DeskFanMan87]

I think it’s giving the order of spirits releasing instead. Unless Secret of the Mimic or something else contradicts it that’s my conclusion.

[@Joeliieeees]

first theory I disagree with my goat fell off 💔 jk while I don't agree with some points made in this video, some I do, great as always

[@DeskFanMan87]

Thanks! The beauty of theories, some right some wrong.

[@kolchian5139]

Woah this is from today? I thought that said 4 days ago im early 😳

[@Wizardjones69]

im on the idea that jr's is where fazbear entertainment made the fnaf 1 animatronics so the building would be called *fredbear's jrs's* this is where charlie would die on freddy and friends, freddy fazbear's pizza is to much similar with jr's from flaf so its a indication but the location would shut down right after MM which they conserved those "*jr's* characters for a tv show, after david's afton death and fredbear's closing they re-open fredbear's jr's as *freddy fazbear's pizza* on 1983 i think that shadow bonnie is eleanor, and its implied to be born from the ballpit on 1985 from all the mci agony which would merge with the other agony monster, shadow freddy, which was caused by charlie's death itp springbonnie is implied to be eleanor, and on a sprite he looks like ALOT shadow bonnie

[@DeskFanMan87]

Interesting, hey just in particular with Eleanor being Shadow Bonnie, how would you explain Shadow Bonnie being in FNAF AR, since that’s most likely after the Stichwraith Stingers? I’ve had this idea before but couldn’t figure that part out.

[@Wizardjones69]

@@DeskFanMan87 the stingers seems to take place after hw and ar but before tales

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@Wizardjones69 maybe I just need to re read em. It’s been a while, before tales even came out

[@kwnaskhaai9676]

Amazing theory😮😮

[@DeskFanMan87]

Thank you!

[@charles111093]

So I think Fredbear plush is the mimic

[@DeskFanMan87]

Oh? That would be crazy

[@Emmett_Corvid]

wanna explain how a dead corpse of Michael could "heal"??????????????? He´s a dead body I don´t think there´s any coming back from that-

[@DeskFanMan87]

Remnant has healing properties, and remember Mike doesn’t die. Honestly the purple his probably from bruising, not decay.

[@Emmett_Corvid]

@@DeskFanMan87 what do you mean ‘bruising’? I understand if he would have that only around the injury but his whole body? Just a big bruise?? That don’t add up to me..

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@Emmett_Corvid well let’s remember it is a sprite, so a “big bruise” no, but definitely a lot. It’s a still alive body being puppeteer against its will with a metal skeleton forcing its way around inside. It’s a little silly but this is also a series where this same person got his insides removed by a giant scoop arm with just basically a sharp bucket on the end.

[@Emmett_Corvid]

@@DeskFanMan87 hmmm.. idk. Valid theory I just don’t buy it yet

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@Emmett_Corvid that’s fair, it ultimately doesn’t affect much, next stop for him is fnaf 3/6 and he ACTUALLY dies anyway (I hope he did at least, please let characters be dead)

[@CaptainCrhisredfield14992]

Is this fnaf4 mobile version 2.0.3?

[@DeskFanMan87]

No, 2.0.2. Is there a major difference?

[@CaptainCrhisredfield14992]

@@DeskFanMan87 I don't know but the version I have is 2.0.3

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@CaptainCrhisredfield14992 weird, that’s not on the Apple Store.

[@CaptainCrhisredfield14992]

@@DeskFanMan87 I downloaded it from a link on Facebook. Is it possible to have a modified version or something like that?

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@CaptainCrhisredfield14992 I mean maybe, I don’t tend to download from Facebook lol

[@5corch]

ANOTHER DESK FAN FAN?????

[@DeskFanMan87]

Apparently lol

[@Logia_]

What about *_『 ZƏ MĪMĪČ 』_* ?

[@DeskFanMan87]

Topic for another day (and when I’ve reread the books lol)

[@shantishan1172]

Saying that henry loved charlie in the silver eyes is like saying william loved michael

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@shantishan1172 he loved Charlie before she died. In the Silver Eyes, I’m assuming you’re referring to scenes like in the garage when he tears the frog apart, I’d say you’re right that he doesn’t love her because it’s not Charlie, he loves the memory of her. If you’re saying he NEVER loved her then I respectfully disagree. Otherwise robo-Charlie in TSE wouldn’t be able to exist, because she’s not Charlie, she’s Henry’s memory of her that manifested in the Ella doll.

[@nanuqo2006]

@@DeskFanMan87 He only took the frog apart because he thought that she was afraid of it. It was a disproportional response but not one done out of a lack of love for his robo-daughter

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@nanuqo2006 that’s right and wrong. We’re basically saying the same thing, I think, but he doesn’t love robo-Charlie, he loves the memory of Charlie that he sees IN robo-Charlie. I think we’re saying the same thing, just kinda debating semantics lol.

[@RosadoVv-w9m]

You look a lot like me thats kinda weird hahaha

[@DeskFanMan87]

@@RosadoVv-w9m doppelgänger 👀

[@D4rkVIolet]

Iphone gamer spotted

[@DeskFanMan87]

Easier to grab footage quickly. I prefer PC 90 percent of the time.

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

I didnt wrote the first comment fully

[@DeskFanMan87]

Re read it, glad someone else appreciates the books like that.

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

@@DeskFanMan87 i think the first trilogy is flawed, but people ignore so much of it in an unfair way.