How The HECK Do You Petrify A Ghost?! | Harry Potter Film Theory

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Today Ben dives into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter to do some soul math and reveal how the Basilisk is able to petrify Nearly Headless Nick in Chamber of Secrets
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@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 4 ай бұрын
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@diarm77
@diarm77 4 ай бұрын
Wowzers
@iimax_9135
@iimax_9135 4 ай бұрын
When will there be a Kahoot quiz?
@sandyaameria4243
@sandyaameria4243 4 ай бұрын
please please please do a collaboration with the movie flamesPotter guy in a Harry quiz
@korsaiyajinkami3766
@korsaiyajinkami3766 4 ай бұрын
I think you're wrong about it being impossible for a ghost like Nearly Headless Nick to be brought back from the dead and to live once more. I was gonna tell you my theory on this here and say how it connects to Voldemort wanting the Philosopher's Stone in Book 1, but I figured I'd not spoil it in case you'd like to make a video about it. I'll email you the simple theory that you helped me come up with.
@FBelos
@FBelos 4 ай бұрын
@SuperCarlinBrothers hey I noticed you been sponsored by BetterHelp a few times I wanted to let you both know that BetterHelp has been exposed for being a scam for a few years now.
@oasiswriter
@oasiswriter 4 ай бұрын
I'm more curious why the portraits never saw the snake
@augustmcleod93
@augustmcleod93 4 ай бұрын
Ok, this needs to be a video because surely the snake would've been seen by the portraits as soon as it resurfaces from the pipes 🤔
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 4 ай бұрын
OMG that is SUCH a good point...
@coolnerdlll6053
@coolnerdlll6053 4 ай бұрын
I've always wondered that. Get on it, SCB.
@CrashTeamRacingCTR
@CrashTeamRacingCTR 4 ай бұрын
​@@SuperCarlinBrothersthis really needs some good answeing 😮
@dothedo3667
@dothedo3667 4 ай бұрын
I'm assuming it wasn't out in the open, except for briefly with each attack, since it was moving in the walls and pipes. And so it seems that the places where the attacks took place didn't have portraits around.
@kray87111
@kray87111 4 ай бұрын
Honestly Colin is a real one. He put himself in direct danger to stick around long enough for a photo of the attacker.
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 4 ай бұрын
Colin's attack is crazy, he is sneaking out at night - so breaking rules - so he can bring Harry grapes in the hospital wing, which is adorable, and then ALSO brings his camera.. ya know just in case
@katiehoraczek399
@katiehoraczek399 4 ай бұрын
Mad respect for little homie
@eSTeeNTV
@eSTeeNTV 4 ай бұрын
And he sacrificed his life fighting for Harry and defending Hogwart, what a G.
@AmyFlannigan27
@AmyFlannigan27 4 ай бұрын
Yea but isn't looking through that old looking camera basically a direct path of sight? He really sticks out to me
@PerovNigma
@PerovNigma 4 ай бұрын
​@@AmyFlannigan27 If there's something between your eyes and the Basilisk's, it's not direct. Which makes me wonder if students wearing glasses were safe...?
@kray87111
@kray87111 4 ай бұрын
Furthermore. How was Nick un-petrified?
@pharaohkai1
@pharaohkai1 4 ай бұрын
I was just about to ask the same question
@NYSports14
@NYSports14 4 ай бұрын
I was just going to comment this
@Morgyborgyblob
@Morgyborgyblob 4 ай бұрын
I'm thinking the mandrake potion in a little spray bottle.
@dinahbacher551
@dinahbacher551 4 ай бұрын
Precisely!
@JK-zm5td
@JK-zm5td 4 ай бұрын
Or the steam of the potion?
@jordy9096
@jordy9096 4 ай бұрын
With basilisk venom being able to destroy horcruxes, these creatures are just soul destroying machines
@lilb5262
@lilb5262 2 ай бұрын
What would basilisk venom do to a dementor? If dementors eat souls and basilisk venom destroys souls or pauses them then would basilisk venom just give a dementor indigestion? Someone needs to stabby stab a dementor with the sword of Gryffindor to test this.
@heylolp9
@heylolp9 4 ай бұрын
Dementors ≠ Ghost Vacuum Cleaner Dementors = Ghost Busters
@captaincapslock8654
@captaincapslock8654 4 ай бұрын
If that were the case though - wouldn't that give ghosts a way out of their otherwise eternal existance?
@Zordlistair
@Zordlistair 4 ай бұрын
​@@captaincapslock8654 I'd say yes, but no ghost would want to do that as I didn't think they would then go to the Afterlife, they would just cease existing
@captaincapslock8654
@captaincapslock8654 4 ай бұрын
@@Zordlistair Interesting. Surely there's got to be some ghosts out there who are depressed enough to give it a try after a couple thousand years. To me it seems like the better alternative to eternal suffering.
@swordseye2
@swordseye2 4 ай бұрын
who you gonna call? De men tors!
@lilb5262
@lilb5262 2 ай бұрын
Could a ghost somehow "ride" someone's body after they received a dementor's kiss? Since it would be a vessel with life force but no soul and the ghost is a soul, could someone move a ghost soul into this new container? We know Voldy used the avada kedavra curse to kill and split his soul into new containers so if someone was recently kissed (murder in a sense) then could that "murder" be used to transport a ghost into a new body?
@SendBreadPics
@SendBreadPics 4 ай бұрын
-"So how are they planning on un-petrifying the ghost?" -"Oh off screen." -"Oh perfect!" It was actually super easy.
@MinistryOfMagic_DoM
@MinistryOfMagic_DoM 4 ай бұрын
Barely an inconvenience.
@DolFinDude23
@DolFinDude23 4 ай бұрын
@@MinistryOfMagic_DoMbeat me to it
@bettyswallows988
@bettyswallows988 4 ай бұрын
In old English tales the basilisk is able to not only kill with its eyes like medusa but also have the ability to breath fire like a dragon. This would explain the scorch marks found with sir nick
@crazysasha1374
@crazysasha1374 4 ай бұрын
I don't like the heat vision theory. To me, it just carries so much magic, such powerful energy, enough to kill someone by basically directly affecting the soul. But when it passes through other stuff, it interacts with items it's not "meant" to, and some of that power, that energy, is then transfered to heat. The vision isn't a heat ray, it just heats up soulless objects that it interacts with. No, that's not like a laser, shut up.
@pantalonesdemuerto7960
@pantalonesdemuerto7960 4 ай бұрын
@ crazysasha1374 Agreed. If it usually burns you to death, I feel like an indirect hit would just burn you to not quite death. It makes more sense for “just kinda kills you” to turn to petrification in these circumstances. Don’t we see Avada Kedavra destroy stuff when it misses? I’m mainly thinking the statue that Dumbledore uses to block in the ministry fight.
@BrandonFlint-ro2ns
@BrandonFlint-ro2ns 2 ай бұрын
@@pantalonesdemuerto7960 Yeah AK destroys objects it hits. The Basilisk's stare and the AK are very similar in that they kill the victim without leaving a trace and we don't exactly understand why so why wouldn't it also be able to damage an object it hits while active?
@diarm77
@diarm77 4 ай бұрын
Idk, probably with a basilisk
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 4 ай бұрын
It certainly helps... but how does the basilisk do it!?
@ForeverLumoz
@ForeverLumoz 4 ай бұрын
@@DoctorTwoyou just made my day 😂😂😂
@sandyaameria4243
@sandyaameria4243 4 ай бұрын
​@@SuperCarlinBrothers please please please do a collaboration with the movie flamesPotter guy in a Harry quiz
@luke8558
@luke8558 4 ай бұрын
​@@SuperCarlinBrothers Haven't watched the video yet, but probably definitely heat vision
@Silverheart575
@Silverheart575 4 ай бұрын
With its eyes?​@@SuperCarlinBrothers
@Nzh91
@Nzh91 4 ай бұрын
My favorite plothole in Chamber of Secrets is the idea that "they needed to wait months for the Herbology Mandrakes to be ready" in order to make the potion to restore people. Why on earth wouldn't Hogwarts just buy some already mature Mandrakes to make into the potion or better yet, just buy some Madrake restorative draft already made from a potioneer or St. Mungos... With Hogwarts' resources they should have been able to revive the people within a day or two (however long it takes to find some of the potion), but instead they waited months because it would've ruined the plot to have Nick, Colin, or even Hermione (who is petrified much later) just tell them it was a giant snake
@Bobobear77
@Bobobear77 Ай бұрын
Because I'm pretty sure Mandrakes are very expensive even for one pot, so buying three would lose Hogwarts too much money, and even if they did buy fully grown Mandrakes, the students and others could just get petrified again, and Mandrakes are very rare, only being sold in the only Apothecary in all of Diagon Alley, in all of Wizarding Britain
@christinepearson4972
@christinepearson4972 4 ай бұрын
Even harry potter was confused by how do you petrefy a ghost
@bentoth9555
@bentoth9555 4 ай бұрын
"Is a dementor like a ghost vacuum cleaner?" No, only Luigi has one of those.
@SgtSupaman
@SgtSupaman 4 ай бұрын
I really like this separation of parts in the Venn diagram to explain this so well. However, I feel like one aspect is missed. The container doesn't receive lasting damage, but it is still affected. All the victims were physically petrified. I agree, it penetrates to the soul, thus Nick was affected, but, given that it also has some effect on the body, that could explain why the students needed the mandrake cure, but Nick (who doesn't have a body and can't receive a physical cure) could perhaps be cured by a spell or maybe the ill-effect could have even just worn off.
@Hannah-kx4gq
@Hannah-kx4gq 4 ай бұрын
I really don't know how they cured Nick, but I assume that they needed the potion, because otherwise they had not to wait until the mandrakes ripened but instead they could have cured him much sooner and Nick could have told them that the monster was a basilisk
@samstromberg5593
@samstromberg5593 3 ай бұрын
Right cause if it were just the soul affected then a Dementor’s Kiss and Indirect Basilisk would be the same
@lukemateo9500
@lukemateo9500 4 ай бұрын
As soon as I saw the title I knew we'd be discussing the HEAT VISION 😂 so glad I'm a Through the Griffin Door listener
@jacquelineg4877
@jacquelineg4877 4 ай бұрын
Same! Saw the title and was like with HEAT VISION
@lisahenry20
@lisahenry20 4 ай бұрын
Chamber of secrets is my least favourite, so I've been skipping the podcast videos about it. I might listen to them at double speed later, so i can look forward to hearing about heat vision.
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 4 ай бұрын
But with Hermione & Penelope there was no reference for heat/scorching/burning with the mirror that I remember. Just the others, so how the heck does that work?
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 4 ай бұрын
​@@lisahenry20 Interesting, my least favorite is "Order of the Phoenix".
@lisahenry20
@lisahenry20 4 ай бұрын
@@morrigankasa570 it is interesting, because that's my second favourite.
@SSKwala
@SSKwala 4 ай бұрын
Video idea- how did Voldemort exactly jinx the defense against the dark arts position. A teaching position is not an actual object. And how was the spell so powerful that Dumbledore couldn't remove it for so many years.
@ijustexist3866
@ijustexist3866 4 ай бұрын
He probably jinxed like the entire room or something, idk
@ambiverter
@ambiverter 4 ай бұрын
There isn't a fixed room for most of the subjects. Snapes in 6th year taught it down in the dungeons, which is not where most of the previous teachers would have taught
@scottdevault4175
@scottdevault4175 4 ай бұрын
I feel like voldemorts name being made taboo was a form of jinx . Maybe words and titles can be as well .
@CarlosGomez-vz8gl
@CarlosGomez-vz8gl 4 ай бұрын
​@@ambiverterno, the class was the same, Snape only kept his office in the dungeons
@adarshmohapatra5058
@adarshmohapatra5058 4 ай бұрын
@@scottdevault4175 Yeah this. Voldemort might just have said some incantations like "Maledicite praesidium contra artes obscuras doctrinam positionis" to jinx the Defense Against the Dark Arts Position
@ThatAlchemistGuy
@ThatAlchemistGuy 4 ай бұрын
Video idea! How did none of the ghosts find the chamber of secrets? Since theyre always going through walls, youd think one of them wouldve stumbled by it at some point
@Lupinemancer87
@Lupinemancer87 4 ай бұрын
I'm more curious how they managed to unpetrify Nick afterwards. My personal theory is that the effect is only temporary on ghosts since they are already dead, meaning they can't be affected by anything of the mortal world. But because of how powerful, and dangerous a Basilisk gaze is, it is able to only temporarily petrify even ghosts.
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 4 ай бұрын
The effect wearing off at the same time the petrified students were cured? Nah, Madams Sprout and Pomfrey had to get creative with feeding Nick. If it was just temporary for ghosts, wouldn't it be temporary for humans? Dumbledore said the Mandrake Draught was successfully administered to ALL who have been petrified.
@Alwarin1
@Alwarin1 4 ай бұрын
I mean - nobody told that the Mandrake draught needed to be ingested for it to work (how would petrified ppl even swallow). Maybe it works as an ointment of sorts, working through skin contact. And for however my memory serves, Nick was actually solid after he got hit by basilisk, sooo… they could just splash him like all others
@SebasTian58323
@SebasTian58323 4 ай бұрын
Well they were able to move the petrified Nick with a fan by fanning him in the direction they needed to move him. We also know that they can affect things because Myrtle often floods her bathroom and I'm pretty sure when she jumps into the toilets the water splashes, so non solid things like air, fire and water may be more susceptible to ghosts, so it's possible they just fanned him through the potion and that cured him.
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 4 ай бұрын
@@SebasTian58323 So if liquids and gases can effect eachother, maybe it's because the Mandrake Draught was a liquid that Nick could drink?
@Trumpet_Traction
@Trumpet_Traction 4 ай бұрын
I think in describing this, you also validated the theory you tossed in about Avada Kedavra being related to Basilisks. The body is unharmed, but the soul and the life force are removed
@vladock3372
@vladock3372 4 ай бұрын
"But alas, earwax." I love it so much. Said smoothly. A great line and use of it.
@Berlin66760
@Berlin66760 4 ай бұрын
If voldermort requires 'bone of the father' to rebuild his body, what would he do if Harry stole all the bones.
@najrenchelf2751
@najrenchelf2751 4 ай бұрын
ooook... XD
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 4 ай бұрын
Steal the bones back.
@jamespilgrim3774
@jamespilgrim3774 4 ай бұрын
Why would harry do that....?
@jemherondale4259
@jemherondale4259 4 ай бұрын
I've always been more curious about how they unpetrified him. The books make it pretty clear that ghosts can't eat or drink anything, so how did they give him the mandrake potion to fix him.
@Lucky008aau
@Lucky008aau 4 ай бұрын
4:53 Yes, I did see that coming. I listen to Through the Griffin Door; the best HP podcast for all muggles.
@scarlett.23
@scarlett.23 4 ай бұрын
To add to your Venn diagram, a corpse would be a container without a soul or life force And sth like blood of a unicorn or the philosopher stone would be life force sources
@Lovesmusic0218
@Lovesmusic0218 4 ай бұрын
Its my birthday today and I love SCB. And these videos always make my day better
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 4 ай бұрын
Happy Birthday!
@Lovesmusic0218
@Lovesmusic0218 4 ай бұрын
@@SuperCarlinBrothers thank you
@thedragonwarrior5861
@thedragonwarrior5861 4 ай бұрын
Happy late birthday
@Lovesmusic0218
@Lovesmusic0218 4 ай бұрын
@@thedragonwarrior5861 thank you
@thedragonwarrior5861
@thedragonwarrior5861 4 ай бұрын
@@Lovesmusic0218 you're welcome
@madDjakni
@madDjakni 4 ай бұрын
Honestly I feel like while it would have been helpful for Dumbledore and/or Harry to know the monster is a Basilisk (who knows perhaps Dumbledore had already deduced as much) it would only have given more credence to the "Harry is the heir" movement as he's the only known parselmouth in school that year and the basilisk is referred to as "the king of snakes". Still it's interesting how Myrtle spends so much time in that bathroom or in the pipes and never once does she witness possessed Ginny opening the chamber or run into the basilisk as a ghost in the pipes. Of all the ghosts in the castle you'd think Myrtle would be the most likely to encounter the basilisk
@themusicalhallway3422
@themusicalhallway3422 4 ай бұрын
Maybe Dumbledore had figured it out but didn't want to add to the pressure Harry was already feeling from his peers. That could be an additional thing that could support their theory of Dumbledore's Big Plan. Maybe she was too busy crying to pay attention? But then again, if she did see the Basilisk, she'd end up like Nick...right? Now I'm wondering, if she's dead because she looked straight in the eyes of the Basilisk, would she repeat that experience when she's a ghost as well? That would be a weird deja vu experience for her!
@thirteenthandy
@thirteenthandy 4 ай бұрын
Myrtle's body wasn't vaporized. "Nobody missed me even when I was alive. Took them hours and hours to find my body - I know, I was sitting there waiting for them. Olive Hornby came into the bathroom - 'Are you in here again, sulking, Myrtle?' she said, 'because Professor Dippet asked me to look for you -' And then she saw my body..."
@MatthewMorris6148
@MatthewMorris6148 4 ай бұрын
I’d take another look at how the basilisk and killing curse are connected. If you recall from the duel between Voldemort and Dumbledore in the Order of the Phoenix, Avada Kedavra literally makes things explode! They both have destructive powers, and yet don’t harm their victims? Hmm, maybe Avada Kedavra is secretly just a powerful laser?
@MagicCardboardBox
@MagicCardboardBox 4 ай бұрын
The real question is how you unpetrify one with a potion
@cbart4285
@cbart4285 4 ай бұрын
And does a dementor affect ghosts?
@derekstein6193
@derekstein6193 4 ай бұрын
​@@DoctorTwo Ah yes, the Pokemon method.
@titanks3
@titanks3 4 ай бұрын
Slight problem... If your soul is undamaged if your "container" is physically destroyed, how would Sir Nicholas "Nearly Headless" de Mimsy-Porpington and Sir Patrick "Properly Decapitated" Delany-Podmore not be fully intact?
@estiwind1003
@estiwind1003 4 ай бұрын
Can you pls do another series like what if Harry was in slytherin or what if James kept the invisibility cloak? Those are soooo good!
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 4 ай бұрын
OH i am sure we will at some point!
@Dilophoraptor-q5b
@Dilophoraptor-q5b 4 ай бұрын
Or the what if Neville was the chosen one. Would LOVE a continued story.😁
@themusicalhallway3422
@themusicalhallway3422 4 ай бұрын
@@SuperCarlinBrothers though I can't wait for another one of your What if series, I understand you've got a tour to focus on. Have fun and enjoy yourselves on tour!! 😁🪄📖✈
@Cold.October
@Cold.October 4 ай бұрын
So maybe the basilisk just likes eating their food cooked like humans. They come with the built in cooking vision. And I guess that's why it doesn't eat the petrified people because they haven't died and been properly heat-visioned yet.
@themusicalhallway3422
@themusicalhallway3422 4 ай бұрын
That makes more sense as to why it doesn't strike them down with its fangs and poison them!
@M.P.D-TheBagel
@M.P.D-TheBagel 4 ай бұрын
I never had a problem with the fact that Nick was petrified, I was just always confused on how they cured him if he doesn’t have a body to administer the cure to
@henryguillen806
@henryguillen806 4 ай бұрын
Maybe they sprayed his soul or something.
@blonderebelskates2555
@blonderebelskates2555 4 ай бұрын
Now I’m wondering what would happen if a ghost gets a Dementors kiss 🤔🤔 would that be a way to ‘die’?
@B_Squar3d
@B_Squar3d 4 ай бұрын
Nearly Headless Nick didn't get petrified, though. He "caught the full blast of it", but couldn't die again. So he's essentially feigning death and needs the mandrake draught to be restored, but he's not actually petrified
@Mefous2
@Mefous2 4 ай бұрын
So if Ginny had lost her life force to the diary, she would have become a horcrux?
@jamespilgrim3774
@jamespilgrim3774 4 ай бұрын
I don't think so, since she would be dead.
@bridgethollowell3693
@bridgethollowell3693 4 ай бұрын
Ive never caught a video this early I feel so special 🥰
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 4 ай бұрын
Well done!
@ryancumings4698
@ryancumings4698 4 ай бұрын
Well, in the films, at least we see Moaning Myrtle's corpse in a flashback, so they're not disintegrated. My guess is it's a play on the saying: "Stare into your soul" The basilisk stare is so intense, it piercers into the soul, which is why it needs eye contact. Eyes are the window into the soul. This kills you, because while you're soul is paralysed, your body dies. Then when your soul is eventually unparalysed, it has no body to return to, making the victim a ghost
@BrandonFlint-ro2ns
@BrandonFlint-ro2ns 4 ай бұрын
That would explain why Myrtle became a ghost unknowingly. Normally becoming a ghost is a choice the individual has to make. That didn't seem to be the case with her though.
@morganwarner5181
@morganwarner5181 4 ай бұрын
So glad you’re covering this
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 4 ай бұрын
It's about time someone did!
@keithjones3138
@keithjones3138 4 ай бұрын
It's funny how you basically explained Kingdom Hearts lore with the heartless, nobodies, and unversed. But this leaves the question: what is a poltergeist, aka peeves and filtch? While I would argue they both have containers, as peeves makes messes most ghost can't. But do they have life force or soul due to the rule breaking and following?
@jamespilgrim3774
@jamespilgrim3774 4 ай бұрын
They aren't ghosts, but the embodiments of their respected roles
@JustACactus616
@JustACactus616 4 ай бұрын
Me again! It’s gonna be hard, but I still wanna see that Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes theory where you guys use the official map and sciency geography stuff to figure out when it takes place. It’s fine if you are working on it, take all the time you need, I just didn’t know if you WERE gonna make it. I always hate when people make comments like this, but I just thought it would be a cool idea
@gravy7861_
@gravy7861_ 4 ай бұрын
I've been catching up on missed videos and I didn't even realize I'm checking early for this video. Hope everyone has a good Memorial Day weekend.
@zacharyowen93
@zacharyowen93 4 ай бұрын
Magic. Duh.
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 4 ай бұрын
Duh.
@dccrulez
@dccrulez 4 ай бұрын
This makes me think: if the attack is on the soul, and when partially blocked it disrupts the soul, and the only confirmed victim became a ghost, what if the attack in full actually expels the soul, forcing the victim into a ghost state?
@bibbidybobbidyboo5212
@bibbidybobbidyboo5212 4 ай бұрын
I was just thinking about this very thing yesterday. What I wonder is how were they able to administer the Mandrake draft? Like seriously, I want footage of that scene.
@acmiller22
@acmiller22 4 ай бұрын
"But alas earwax" is the new best and only way to say "unfortunately"
@Eshandist
@Eshandist 4 ай бұрын
@SuperCarlinBrothers Hang on, you're explanation wouldn't account for the scorch marks or the physical burning of the camera film. If the basilisk vision only affects souls, how is it affecting physical objects? And if it can affect physical objects, why aren't the bodies of the victims scorched too? Also, if the basilisk Death Vision affects physical objects, why does it need direct eye contact to kill? Also also, if basilisk DV only affects souls, does that mean in the HP universe, the eyes are the literal "window to the soul"? Some interesting implications for spells there....ie: how Occlumency/Legilimency works...
@nicholasnewton2912
@nicholasnewton2912 4 ай бұрын
What is your thoughts on the basilisk never actually killing anyone because Salazar never intended it to? That some how a spell was put on it that prevented it from killing. This would mean that Moaning Myrtle would not have been killed by the Basilisk, but rather by young Tom Riddle after the Basilisk petrified her. This also explains how she could be used for a Horcrux too. It would be much more poetic to think that it was simply unable to kill versus everyone just getting lucky. Thoughts?
@stuffingtonjfluffypantsiii
@stuffingtonjfluffypantsiii 4 ай бұрын
4:53. Yes I did see that coming (but that's because I listen to Through The Griffin Door every week)
@catman6089
@catman6089 4 ай бұрын
Id be curious where the line is for your vision being "obscured enough" to be petrified. Do the lenses of a pair of glasses have the same effect as the lens of a camera? If water on the floor works, what if you saw the basilisk through some heavy rain? or a thick fog? can a fire distorting the air be enough to "obscure" line of sight?
@captainspaulding5963
@captainspaulding5963 4 ай бұрын
Also, what's the distance limit? With your examples of heavy rain and fog, how far away do you need to be to not be petrified? And even then, what about a clear day, high noon, outside?? You can see a pretty good distance with no obstructions, so when do the effects kick in? There are quite a few questions that would be awesome to cover!
@themusicalhallway3422
@themusicalhallway3422 4 ай бұрын
Apparently glasses won't work since Myrtle died with glasses on. Or...did it just so happen to be at a moment when she didn't have her glasses on because she was crying???
@j.asmrgaming1228
@j.asmrgaming1228 4 ай бұрын
a bigger question I have is if the basilisk initially petrified you why would the basilisk not spend an extra 3 seconds to look at the now petrified person again. Except for I think it's colin who had the camera up to his face I feel like these could have easily been kills. Also it's weird because if they hadn't even bothered with the basilisk I think Tom riddle might have gotten Jenny down to the chamber and come back without the team figuring out where the chamber was. and when all you gained was 3 people who were petrified I don't see why he used it.
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 4 ай бұрын
Hmm great question - i guess maybe if you are petrified you can't make eye contact because your eyes arent really working . MY question is why doesnt he just kill them with his teeth or venom or any other way 😂
@user-vx7do5sr5q
@user-vx7do5sr5q 4 ай бұрын
@@SuperCarlinBrothers because I think that the basilisk is not actively trying to kill them, I think that he is mainly trying to scare them. of course if they end up dead he is not going to care but is not the main goal. Otherwise he'll just eat them hole after he petrifies them, he must be hungry after all those years in hibernation.
@BrandonFlint-ro2ns
@BrandonFlint-ro2ns 4 ай бұрын
@@SuperCarlinBrothers Because that would've been too obvious. Riddle doesn't want the Basilisk to be found. Venom would've been traceable.
@brawl8
@brawl8 4 ай бұрын
I know the book just labeled Nick as petrified. Black and smoky. Nick got the full blast. The movie provided a better visual. Nick is a ghost because he is afraid of death. He fears moving on. Is his status actually the physical manifestation of a spirit in limbo. He is dead. The eyes of the basilisk kill their victim. The effect is instant. He was rendered immobile and burnt. Whatever makes up his astral form. The visible manifestation was damaged. For an entity that fears death. His vessel/form broke. He may have temporarily been stuck in limbo as he was forced to enter the doors of something Nickolas had fully rejected. Until his ghostly vessel was restored Nick would remain immobile. A form of artificial death.
@lucasmobberley3319
@lucasmobberley3319 4 ай бұрын
So... if Nick is a soul with no lifeforce or container could you shove him into the body of someone who was subjected to the dementor's kiss?
@nickgarcia6572
@nickgarcia6572 4 ай бұрын
with some crazy dark magic I feel like there must be a way 🤔
@jamespilgrim3774
@jamespilgrim3774 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like an interesting story
@jamespilgrim3774
@jamespilgrim3774 4 ай бұрын
I don't know, since Ghosts are specifically treated as less than a soul.
@MazochistaRozsas
@MazochistaRozsas 4 ай бұрын
So if container, soul and life force is regular people, container and soul is horcruxes, soul and life force is Voldemort prime, container and life force is people who have had the dementor's kiss, just soul is ghosts, and I guess just container is regular objects, what is just life force?
@iamaferitale
@iamaferitale 4 ай бұрын
I don't know why but when you said dementors are just ghost vacuum cleaners, I immediately just thought that dementors are Ghostbusters of the Wizarding world 😂
@KingsleyIII
@KingsleyIII 4 ай бұрын
"How do you petrify a ghost?" is kind of like "How do you kill a god?" from Disney's _Hercules._
@badscientist42069
@badscientist42069 4 ай бұрын
Maybe Newt added the basilisk to his book after the events of Chamber of Secrets so it wasn't there in the earlier editions that Harry and co. had access to.
@BrandonFlint-ro2ns
@BrandonFlint-ro2ns 4 ай бұрын
I kinda doubt that tbh. Newt dedicated his entire life researching magical creatures. I just find it hard to believe he wouldn't come across the Basilisk before now. Hermione was able to just from a book in a school library so why wouldn't Newt?
@hermionethatsme
@hermionethatsme 4 ай бұрын
Equally interesting question.. How do you UN-petrify a ghost? That ought to be different.
@Viraat_Purusha
@Viraat_Purusha 4 ай бұрын
Amazing. Some inspired ideas: I'd think that ghosts do have a container: ectoplasm. Ghosts do affect the physical world in HP universe: Binns picks up books and they leave cold-feelings in bodies they pass through. It's limited, but it's there so that's an argument for a container/physical body of sorts. The souls have left, so there is no thinker behind a ghost's eyes who can adapt to situations and learn things. But the 'imprint' left behind, aka ectoplasm, which is similar to the memory liquid used in pensieves, seems capable of remembering how they were in life and endlessly executes the same personality till the end of time. Quick question: do you think a basilisk gaze can destroy a horcrux? We know that its venom can, but the venom is more like just a powerful enough corrosive with no (easy) counter; its more of a high tier poison. If the basilisk gaze can truly affect souls directly, and since they'll heat up the container and possibly destroy it too, will they be able to, on will, just off horcruxes?
@I_Love_Quokkas
@I_Love_Quokkas 4 ай бұрын
Remember a line in the Monster Hunter International series where a ghost told the main character that even spirits and ghosts have matter. It’s just finer.
@_devra11
@_devra11 4 ай бұрын
I would really like to know your theories on how Sirius Black died and of it would be able to fit in this Venn Diagram, of container, soul, and life force.
@marsik30
@marsik30 4 ай бұрын
video idea: what if Harry inherited his mum's potions talents and answered all of the snape's questions correctly during the first potions class?
@hartatan-dad
@hartatan-dad 4 ай бұрын
Somehow this was the most. logically sound theory SCB has ever posted. 10/10
@jasiu1989
@jasiu1989 4 ай бұрын
There is an inconsistence in this division of life elements - the Avada Kedavra. when used on Riddle family, doesn't harm their bodies. But the same Avada Kedavra, when deflected on Voldemort in book one, causes his body to be destroyed - it would mean that the same spell/power would affect different part of "life" from usage to usage.
@bran3516
@bran3516 4 ай бұрын
Maybe his body was destroyed because his soul is weakened by being divided in so many horcruxes already.
@baystated
@baystated 4 ай бұрын
So why dont the dementors feed on the school ghosts during their time at the school during Prisoner of Azkaban and Goblet of Fire?
@blakdeth
@blakdeth 4 ай бұрын
The lego eye laser aren't a heat ray. They don't do damage they just signify where the snake is looking. If you run into them it'll bate at you.
@mrax3155
@mrax3155 4 ай бұрын
Question : at the moment Myrtle dies, she becomes a ghost. How was her ghost not then petrified? Unless it takes some time for a person to return as a ghost.
@adamn.4615
@adamn.4615 4 ай бұрын
The basilisk always reminded me of Medusa… except unlike Medusa, the basilisk’s stare apparently has no effect once he’s dead, and with Medusa, it’s safe to look at her in a reflection. I wonder what would happen if a ghost looked at Medusa. 😄
@thedragonwarrior5861
@thedragonwarrior5861 4 ай бұрын
I do remember in the books that Gorgons are another species that has a petrifying stare
@xero1048
@xero1048 4 ай бұрын
This would imply to me that avada kedavra would in fact kill a ghost, since it effects the soul directly
@chlo-yb1ob
@chlo-yb1ob 4 ай бұрын
if the basilisk saw itself in a mirror, would it kill itself, petrify itself, or would nothing happen?
@Ricochet5095
@Ricochet5095 4 ай бұрын
My only question is, wouldn't Myrtle's ghost have been paused after she died?
@dashingdog2925
@dashingdog2925 4 ай бұрын
If a dementor is a ghost vacuum cleaner than could a ghost get consumed by a dementor and proceed to the beyond???
@zatar123
@zatar123 4 ай бұрын
What happens to your soul when it is taken by a dementor? Do you pass on to whatever is beyond, or are you totally destroyed?
@PhilBagels
@PhilBagels 4 ай бұрын
So, to complete the Venn diagram: Container only = corpse Soul only = ghost Life force only = ??? Someone not yet born, perhaps? Container + Soul = horcrux Container + Life Force = someone who has been dementor-kissed Soul + Life Force = Voldemort's spirit, or anyone else who has their body destroyed without dying? How exactly does that happen? All three = normal living person None = nothing But if Avada Kedavra is like a basilisk's gaze - only destroying the soul, while leaving the body intact - then why was Voldy's body destroyed when the AK rebounded on him?
@PhilBagels
@PhilBagels 4 ай бұрын
Hmmm... and what about the "living" portraits and photographs? They aren't alive, so they don't actually have a soul, but they might have some semblance of a life force, since they can interact with people and move. And the physical picture counts as a container of sorts, I guess. But it's not quite a container since they can leave their picture frame and go into a different one. So maybe they are life-force only.
@theclocktower3258
@theclocktower3258 4 ай бұрын
This would raise a few questions: -What would have happened if Nearly-Headless Nick had looked the Basilisk in the eyes himself? If it attacks souls would that mean he would be destroyed? But if it fully destroyed souls how is Myrtle's ghost still around? This raises the question of how exactly the stare kills a living person, to begin with. My theory is that the stare of a Basilisk actually doesn't do any damage at all, even to the spirit. Perhaps it merely petrifies the soul and separates it from the body? This would essentially push the soul out of the body and leave the body to die, similar to how too many Dementor kisses leave you as an empty husk. Perhaps it is possible to keep a husk alive, but given the lack of will and likely immediate shock to the system, I could see this either leaving a person a vegetable if not killing them outright on the spot (especially for a young girl like Myrtle). This would explain why only catching a glimpse of the Basilisk petrifies you. Your soul is petrified but not separated from your body, so long as you can un-petrify the soul the body should snap back to normal.
@mrax3155
@mrax3155 4 ай бұрын
I've always wondered - what if the reason nobody died was because Riddle was acting through Ginny, and since her heart wasn't in it, she was somehow resisting his wishes a little subconsciously? We do know she goes on to become a pretty formidable witch
@captainspaulding5963
@captainspaulding5963 4 ай бұрын
But Ginny herself didn't cause any direct harm.... she opened the chamber, she didn't control the Basalisk.
@mrax3155
@mrax3155 4 ай бұрын
That's an interesting thought. I've always interpreted it as Ginny being the one to initially be possessed by Riddle and controlling the basilisk (you do need parseltongue to open the chamber, same as controlling the basilisk). The reason we see Riddle doing it on his own when Harry meets him is because he has absorbed enough of Ginny's life force to do so by that point. Without it he needed to act through someone.
@keiraeditsstuff
@keiraeditsstuff 4 ай бұрын
For anyone wondering what Ben said at 4:53, "heat and/or laser vision"
@LocoJandro
@LocoJandro 4 ай бұрын
This is the most well researched and presented video I've ever seen. Bravo! Now, we need the video dedicated to the idea about how the killing curse is directly derived from some ancient basilisk.
@curtislindsey1736
@curtislindsey1736 4 ай бұрын
The real question is how do you give them the remedy for being petrified???
@Mantis24513
@Mantis24513 4 ай бұрын
If you have any questions about basalisks, the answer is always laser vision.
@tylergrey7985
@tylergrey7985 4 ай бұрын
Usually i try figure your theories out before watching the video but on this one i didnt even try 😂 great video (as usual)
@ASLTheatre
@ASLTheatre 4 ай бұрын
Call me weird but as a kid I always wondered how Restorative Potion was given to Sir Nickolas. Moving the ghost form with a fan is clever by a fan. Did they physically put the measure of potion in the ghost body? Then waited tell the potion vapors did their thing and the ghost was revived?
@lukemateo9500
@lukemateo9500 4 ай бұрын
If ghosts are pure souls (which have been established to be unaffected by bodily harm), how can they sustain damage from when they were alive? Nick has damage from the axe, not to mention the entire headless hunt. I think there's something else going on or maybe the event of leaving the "container" has some affect?
@amanekabbaj
@amanekabbaj 4 ай бұрын
10:17 Omg the quote from Voldemort is even creepier than I thought. Come out and play is exactly what Sirius says to Pettigrew in the shack. Back then it sounded comical whereas in goblet of fire it’s just plain creepy
@BlueJay2
@BlueJay2 4 ай бұрын
I love when people "science" fiction/fantasy things like this, it's so fun
@amcalycat93
@amcalycat93 4 ай бұрын
lovelovelove your video, as usual! And I'm always a sucker for a good chart, though now I need you to fill in the other options for my peace of mind to ever be happy again; BUT What I Really Need You Guys To Answer; HOW DID NICK DRINK THE CURE?! This has bothered me for years now!!! In your own video, in the book itself it happens, ghosts can only pass through food. So how was he given the Mandrake cure?!!??!!? Magic potions are the exception? This is never shown and or spoken of again?!
@baystated
@baystated 4 ай бұрын
"Direct eye contact" sounds like the basilisk has to get you to touch its eye ball. Not like locking its gaze, but like putting on a contact lens. DONT TOUCH THE BASILISK EYE! very gross.
@tinas_hotdog_sophie
@tinas_hotdog_sophie 4 ай бұрын
Well the easy answer would be, you have to first be afraid, and then petrified, thinking you could live without them by your side....
@CoffeeBrainzz
@CoffeeBrainzz 4 ай бұрын
He wasn’t petrified! He was ‘Dead’ Headless Nick looked STRAIGHT into the Basilisks eyes. Basically like a killing curse. Everyone else got petrified Real question is what type of power is exuding out of the basilisks eyes! 👀
@natemars8841
@natemars8841 4 ай бұрын
Okay......given the theory about the Avada Kedavra curse possibly being derived from the power of the Basilisk.....now im wondering if that curse would alao have some sort of effect on a ghost...
@xarenanotmyrealname4134
@xarenanotmyrealname4134 4 ай бұрын
⚠️Off topic from video, day five of asking for what ifs⚠️ 1: What if Dudley went to Hogwarts? I think he'd be a Hufflepuff and be pretty good at defense against the dark arts and I think it would be fun to have him be good at divination cause none of the golden trio are good at or even seem to respect it. 2: What if Aang died with the other Air nomads and one of the other main characters eventually became the Avatar? I think the most interesting would be Sokka and Zuko. 3: What if Prim became the Mockingjay? The only way I see this happening is if Katniss gets caught hunting and either gets killed or sent to the Capital and becomes an avox, a year or two before Prims game so she gets some survival skills not as good as Katniss but better than nothing.
@Sailorbrown42
@Sailorbrown42 4 ай бұрын
@SuperCarlinBrothers Can owls see through poly juice potion? If you had addressed a letter to mad eye Moody in book 4, would it go to Barty Crouch? Or the chest? If the chest, why doesn’t the ministry of magic use owls as poly juice detection?
@dinahbacher551
@dinahbacher551 4 ай бұрын
Cats don't have souls. What about Mrs. Norris?
@AlienSnowflake
@AlienSnowflake 4 ай бұрын
Hahaha yass!! Finally mentioned of lazer beams in ps1 games. So true!! :D
@iowa89357
@iowa89357 4 ай бұрын
My question is how was nick "cured"? Did they put the mandrake potion in a spray bottle and just spritz him? Also, how would they move him? Or was he just floating where he was attacked all year?
@kaylapounds1359
@kaylapounds1359 4 ай бұрын
I have a question... do any of y'all think a container and life force that lost its soul (like Barty Crouch Jr) could essentially live again if a soul or soul fragment was placed inside of it? So if say Bellatrix learned how to fragment her soul and turned him into a horcrux? And if so, would Barty be himself or more like Bellatrix or both?
@jonasmartens3204
@jonasmartens3204 4 ай бұрын
Next question: how was Nearly Headless Nick un-petrified? Since ghosts can't touch anything, how was the mandrake root draught used on him?
@malcolm32
@malcolm32 4 ай бұрын
I actually don't think ghosts are souls at all. Snape describes them as imprints of departed souls. I think a ghost is more an echo of who a person was; something a soul leaves behind when it moves on. Nick has no knowledge of death because *he* never experienced death. His existence is the result of the REAL Sir Nick soul being so reluctant to move on that some vestige of his magical power managed to cling to the mortal realm, coalescing into a pale image of the soul of its creator. Magic seems to like manifesting emotions in physical ways: dementors are despair magically manifest. Poltergeists are mischief. An obscurus is repression. I think ghosts are regret magically manifest.
@iowa89357
@iowa89357 4 ай бұрын
New question: why is moaning myrtle always sad/crying? Why is that her one characteristic? Do all ghosts just have 1 quirk or personality (like from moment of their death) that they always display?
@paurotger13
@paurotger13 4 ай бұрын
I am courious to know how they brought Nick back to "normal". I understand they used a potion for the others. How can they cure Nick with a potion? It's not like he can "drink"? Right?
@pokerface828
@pokerface828 26 күн бұрын
If moaning myrtle was killed by the basilisks gaze and apparently just immediately and painlessly becomes a ghost, doesn't that mean the basilisk didn't harm her soul?
@sestoelemento2013
@sestoelemento2013 4 ай бұрын
Myrtle's body was intact when she died. She tells Harry about how olive hornbee found her body, and Myrtle haunted her for it until the ministry made her go back to hogwarts. So I don't know how this affects the theory, I personally think Nick "died" because he got a full blast stare from the baslisk. So I think nick couldn't die so when he was hit it fried the ghost form cause thats how it kills you, it cooks you from the inside so no outer marks.
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