How the Internet is failing the visually impaired | Clive Loseby | TEDxLukelyBrook

[@jamshidbekjamshidbek8406]

I hope someday the internet will be better also for Blind

[@CliveLoseby]

Thank you very much for your comment, I hope so to!

[@craftsmanwoodturner]

Great talk, Clive! One point, though - someone with impaired vision might well prefer the door on the right, purely because being white they can see where it is... So many public buildings have all-glass doors, often in amongst all-glass windows, so it is really hard to tell which is the door, even with perfect vision. Yes, I understand you were mainly talking about web sites, but accessibility is an issue in both the physical and virtual worlds.

[@CliveLoseby]

Thanks very much for your comments Richard, I am glad you enjoyed I take your point of course. As long as you can give people a choice, that is what matters. 🙂

[@Ubermensch201]

I would say they are failing the hearing impaired as well.. Have you ever put the closed captions on a video playing on KZbin?!??!! Not even close to what they are actually saying

[@ВадимНечунаев-л2о]

In fact, i have. They're about 80-90% accurate these days. Maybe you checked 5 years ago. You can turn them on right on this video and see. Though somehow they don't appear on all of the videos. No idea why.

[@Ubermensch201]

@@ВадимНечунаев-л2о yeah I'm aware of how things work on here.. I put the subs on here and there with the volume still on and not only do they get a lot of words wrong but half of the time its playing catch-up with the actual speaker.. so, still I say the closed captions need work

[@archenema6792]

It's all about the virtue signaling. Do you think you'll ever see a video update here about new technology to make these things available for the blind or any other sort of impairment? Of course you won't. This channel is just an outrage machine created to feed the perpetually outraged, and nothing more.

[@kaelightupthedark]

Hahahaha true that

[@Studyfd]

Good sharing 👍

[@CliveLoseby]

Thank you very much for sharing my talk!

[@beautyofcolors8495]

Great speech..👏

[@CliveLoseby]

Thank you so much for your kind words

[@muspell8015]

We really need to do better and get braille monitors widely adopted in all public places.

[@usuallyscott7907]

You may have a point there. I was thinking that most of us blind computer users are now using screen readers… But, what do I know? My wife would say “not much “. Ha ha

[@DEO777]

No, Braille monitors in public places should NOT be adopted. The responsibility should be on the disabled to equip themselves with their own device that can read text and then output into audio or Braille.

[@OgJusttrippin]

Better go invent one then

[@muspell8015]

They have been already, bigot

[@Adysh-music]

I don’t think that's possible. braille display are pretty expensive

[@xttechie2995]

This I agree with 100%

[@CliveLoseby]

Thank you very much for your kind words. ☺️

[@jodycasey6936]

This talk is amazing Thank you

[@CliveLoseby]

Thank you very much, that is very kind of you ☺️

[@IINoirII]

Cookie banners exist because it's a legal requirement for websites, owner can be sued for not having it, so technically it's not up to owner to decide whether to have it or not. But nowadays developer companies trying to find solutions to manage sensitive user data without cookies because of new EU regulations, such as: if person ignored cookie banner, he didn't give legal consent and website has no right to gather vital data for marketing, that is very harmful for the industry. I might be slightly wrong about the numbers, but reports say that among common users, the share of people ignoring cookie banners is around 88-92%; on websites for tech-savvy people (ones that know and care about security and role of cookies) the share of users deliberately opting out cookies is around ~67%. (The resent statistics also shows that these new regulations de-facto didn't change the situation - most websites ignoring requirements and getting away with it, just because there is no other convenient way to collect crucial data and to be profitable. At this point it's kind of a dead end situation, demanding a better solution.) So, in the future cookies will probably go away.

[@Adysh-music]

it's not that cookee banner are problematic here, it's the impementation of cookee banner for screen reader

[@IINoirII]

@@Adysh-music yeah, I got that, I'm just saying

[@mohammedfarhan6719]

Nice video

[@CliveLoseby]

Thanks very much for your comment

[@yogeshkad6928]

Hi sir I am also accessibility tester in daily routine I have test website and send the mail of owner of website honour about the accessibility you should but they are don't understand what I want to say and this things I am doing free or cost but still they don't get the value I hope you will guide me thank you very much I want to become a master in accessibility tester

[@CliveLoseby]

Thank you very much for your comment, it is an uphill struggle but one day they will value what you do.

[@yogeshkad6928]

@@CliveLoseby thank you for your best wishes and love from India

[@diptitiwariunofficial]

That's lovely yogesh, kudos

[@DEO777]

The sliding doors are the more dangerous choice in the event of a fire where power goes off. Also dangerous in the event of a panic / stampede where people are trying to run away from a shooter. The sliding doors will not trigger fast enough. The presenter did not do enough research on the subject.

[@OgJusttrippin]

This ted talk is so bad lol

[@billcarruth8122]

The Hubble space telescope is failing the visually impaired. Baywatch failed the visually impaired. Van Gogh failed the visually impaired. Einstein certainly had leanings towards photons. Hey, instead of requiring every website to cater to a tiny fraction of it's potential audience, just make one website that can convert any other website into an accessible one.

[@archenema6792]

That would involve them looking for a solution. Which would take away their favorite toy, virtue signaling about fake "injustices". And that would make them very sad.🤣🤣

[@CliveLoseby]

Thanks for your comment. People have actually tried to do that but it involves the use of overlays which in turn are even more problematic. It’s actually a really simple solution, you just build according to the standards that have been around for a long time.

[@Adysh-music]

I wish, it was possible.

[@usuallyscott7907]

I invite you to explore the world, explore your world, and see if there is something positive you can add to it rather than this kind of comment… really, is this how you want to spend your time?

[@ameternal2012]

The cell phone makers also don't accommodate the disabled. My blind brother uses a flip phone and memorizes all the numbers he needs to use. He can't use a touch screen cell phone because the screen all feels the same there are not buttons. If anyone needs the services a cell phone process it's the disabled .

[@Adysh-music]

I think, you don’t know about google talk back which is a screen reader for android phone. please do him a favor and buy him an android. I’m typing this message using talk back on a touch screen device.

[@yogeshkad6928]

No brother he can use also touch screen mobile I am also blind just you turn on in Android phone TalkBack and in Apple voice over if you want any help then contact me I am also accessibility tester I hope you will got the answer

[@melanieguthrey7428]

Frequent OS changes to how/where things display is also an issue. It's very difficult to re-learn your device every few months.

[@usuallyscott7907]

I encourage you to explore iPhone or whatever phone because of the accessibility enhancements over the last, let’s say, 10 years… Your brother will probably thank you…

[@CliveLoseby]

Thank you very much for your comment. One of my clients, who is also blind and runs a piano shop, loves his iPhone and says it is much easier to use than a computer. It might be worth looking at? I think Android's also have some great accessibility features.

[@dilligafwoftam985]

So what? Nike is 'failing' those without legs. Not everything has to be for everybody, grow up.

[@Adysh-music]

I know that I can’t have access to everything. the point is here that having access to internet is a basic right. I don’t care if I can’t use camera or microscope

[@DEO777]

6:18 So this man who is supposed to be so sensitive to people with disabilities, but yet asks people to raise their hand. Not everyone has the ability to raise their hand (they may have shoulder issues or may be amputees or paralyzed, etc). Other people may have social anxiety and not want to answer in public. And if they don't answer in public, that will draw attention to them causing even more anxiety. If you want to "change the world" how about you start and lead by example instead of calling out others on a TED talk?

[@elyska_singer]

Just out of curiosity, what would you consider a better way to ask for the opinion of the crowd then?

[@DEO777]

@@elyska_singer If getting a vote was so important for his presentation, he should have arranged for the audience seats to be equipped with an electronic voting gadget that would be simple to operate with a finger or a toe or a nose or voice-activated or a vote could be registered on the gadget by a neighbor in the audience.

[@elyska_singer]

@@DEO777 thank you so much! For me it is really interesting to know that these kind of devices exist, because I am blind myself and want to become a teacher. I always wondered how I’d be able to see students raising their hands, but maybe this could be a solution.

[@miraclewiley7126]

@@elyska_singer I am a blind teacher and I never ask my students to raise their hands. It was a classroom rule No hand raising. The younger kids thought it was the coolest thing ever. Of course some will do it. When I first started doing my student teaching I would remind the students if u see a classmate with there hand up just remind them or get my attention by calling my name.

[@archenema6792]

This thread is almost as funny as that debate at the opening of the 2018 Democratic Socialists of America Convention. "Point of Personal Privilege, please, Comrade Speaker!!"🤣🤣🤣

[@gizznajet1]

These Web companies don't do well responding to those of us who have sight. Sounds to me that this is job for government regulation

[@CliveLoseby]

Thank you for your comment. The regulation is there but it is not enforced because very few people understand it in the first place!

[@gizznajet1]

@@CliveLoseby Your awesome. I didn't know about this. I have a soft spot about anyone with disabilities. We have to do all we can to help those who have inabilities. I commend you for your thoughtful hard work.

[@CliveLoseby]

@@gizznajet1 Thank you very much for your kind words. I am most grateful to have the TEDx platform to get my message out to a wider audience!

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[@ВадимНечунаев-л2о]

Highly meaningless talk. Most of it is explaining fairly remote metaphors instead of talking about of actual issues that websites have and how to fix them. There's a few short advices, but that's about 2 minutes long in total.

[@CliveLoseby]

Thanks very much for your comment. I spend many years giving technical talks and will do so again in future. However, this talk came about because I realised last year that many of the people I met did not actually understand what "website accessibility" actually meant in the first place. So I had to go back to the basics.

[@ВадимНечунаев-л2о]

@@CliveLoseby Even so, you should've gone for more real examples of struggles people with impaired vision have when using websites. Instead you overexplained remotely relevant examples. What even is the problem with the cookie notification? I don't think the audience understood anything beyond "Acessibility good". Which is not very insightful. Tangentally, i've only ever seen sliding doors in supermarkets. People still need to use a regular door to enter their house or even a different room in a building. And, well, it does take twice as much space to make a sliding door and more technology to make it work and secure. Supermarkets have it easier, because their doors are free for all - an employee only needs to open their good old key-locked door and unblock the sliding one from a computer.

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[@Adysh-music]

yes, whhy?

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[@archenema6792]

I only remain subbed in order point out the hypocrisy of their ridiculous virtue signaling.

[@archenema6792]

What about people with no fingers? Are they supposed to use touch screens with their noses? What about people with no fingers or noses? Are they supposed to use touch screens with their tongues? What about people with no fingers or noses or tongues? Are they supposed to use touch screens with their...well, that would exclude women, too. 🤣🤣🤣 We need to search for more people with different limitations so that we can make every product bulky and unusable for everyone to make it accessible for them.

[@CliveLoseby]

Thanks for your comment. Actually one of my team of auditors is unable to use her hands and cannot use a keyboard or mouse at all so she uses voice dictation software instead. 😊

[@archenema6792]

@@CliveLoseby You didn't understand my comment at all. If you want to create niche products for niche markets, go ahead and find private funding for it. Which is unlikely since there's no profit in serving such a tiny population of the broken. Forcing everyone else to pay massive subsidies to make the products they use difficult to the point of irrelevance is the very height of immorality: rent-seeking placeholder exploitation of corrupt government redistributionist theft. You are a very immoral person, and you cloak your horrific behavior in the "feel good" propaganda of "inclusivity". The world is turning against woke monsters like you, because they see right through your childish hypocrisy.

[@rick-nr8zy]

The internet isn't failing the visually impaired. Stuff is on a screen, but they are blind. That's not the internet's fault. It's unfortunate, but they have to deal with it some other way. Stop blaming things because you have a disability. Society is originally built for those without disabilities, so people with disabilities suffer from it, but everyone cannot be accomodated all the time ok. Sometimes we get a bad hand at life and so we suffer. I have suffered too, many times. I was unable to walk for 2 years till my legs healed. Now i can walk normal. I don't go blaming others just because i couldn't walk and had to sit in a wheelchair. People act as if everyone has to be so considerate to every bad thing they suffer in life.

[@larbur9342]

There’s no reason why we shouldn’t try to make the internet more accessible to people with disabilities. Lots of people have issues with sight and all of us will grow older and lose much of our sight.

[@homelessoutreachnw165]

Your lack of empathy is disturbing. Be a better person. 😳

[@rick-nr8zy]

@@homelessoutreachnw165 its not a lack of empathy, its about being annoyed that people keep blaming other things and other people for their hardships and expecting other people to always care, and then when they dont receive help, saying they are being failed by others.

[@Future_Pheonix]

I don't think it's about blaming. The goal here is to help improve the situation and to create more inclusivity, which will benefit us all.

[@archenema6792]

@@rick-nr8zy The people who criticize you will never lift a finger to do anything about it. This all about giving themselves a moral high horse to sit on. Actually doing anything about it would involve effort, which they are incapable of, and it would eliminate their favorite hobby, complaining about fake "injustices".🤣🤣

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