How the Marley Reveal CHANGED EVERYTHING - Overanalyzing Attack on Titan

[@Koroto]

📌MINOR CORRECTION - Today I learned in English there's a difference between step-brothers and half-brothers haha. I said Zeke and Eren are step-brothers, but they're actually half-brothers. In Latvian it's the same thing, so that's just a language error on my part. 😅

[@maintrain527]

Considering how many Americans can't speak basic English, you have nothing to worry about

[@Daore05]

YOU ARE LATVIAN???

[@hybridvigga]

In English, a step brother or sister is if your parents separate, and then get together with someone who already has their own kids that the first child is no relation to. Also also, what Latvians think is happening in those videos where a step sister gets their head stuck in a washing machine must be WAY worse than it is for us.

[@joshuahopkin1433]

What are you doing Step Bro 🙂

[@takahashi2852]

@@joshuahopkin1433 half bro*🗿

[@ColonialSun-mg6tq]

Erwin’s balls are only match by that of Eren Kruger “shows up name drops the show foreshadows everything then dies” Legend

[@kevinqqw7505]

💀💀💀

[@fallsprig4581]

erwin's eternal punishment for sacrificing all those people will be people talking about his balls

[@jordanpatterson8536]

I would say Willy Tybur gets to join them. Shows up, unites the world against Paradis Island, dies.

[@JohnSmith-ui9vo]

bro will not stop talking about erwin’s balls and honestly i can’t blame em

[@KsReckless974]

@@JohnSmith-ui9voI mean… man has some big ol marvelous bawlz💀

[@johntaxpayer2523]

he's called the owl because they are silent hunters. their feathers produce no noise while flapping. hunter, jaeger, feathers, wings of freedom, continuous bird theme throughout the show, and the silence reflecting how kruger was a spy

[@maxlewis234]

This is brilliant I never considered this

[@mediumsurmoon6283]

Also Falco being able to fly is nigh miracle of an achievement since I doubt there has been a hybrid between two different Titan across history other than thieve like Eren which only goal was to erase the Titan’s power in the first place. I always thought of the butterfly effect when I see it, because those are not achievable without Nicolo raging on Gabi because of Sasha’s death so technically speaking Sasha’s death NEEDED to happen regardless, and Falco would’ve inherited the Armored titan instead had Eren not beat Porco to oblivion beforehand, yk since Reiner was entirely content on dying right at that moment so there won’t be anything stopping it from happening, unless.. like I said before, Porco being close to death (in the manga, half of his face and body was actually gone. It was heavily censored in the anime). Porco couldn’t have swooped in to save everyone ontop of Eren’s spine had he not have the ability to fly, he also wouldn’t be able to fly in the first place had he got Armored rather than Jaw because of the size difference. I don’t think Eren knew that Sasha’s death was important part of the timeline, it’s why he did so much to try and prevent it but failed, meaning everything down the line all the way to the genocide of the human race are all meant to happen regardless of what he does, because those are Ymir’s will to be free of the Titan’s power.

[@angelamengualcortinas3614]

Dina revealed as the Smiling Titan is so fricking twisted. My personal favourite plot-twist in the entire series, had me with my jaw literally dropped.

[@amo903]

Her last line being that she will come find Grisha no matter what form she takes… and the smiling titan is lured to Grishas house as a result… its honestly beautiful and horrifying at the same time.

[@diegos1325]

We've got some S tier level yapping here Bois I'm so ready

[@Koroto]

🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️

[@matthiaskooij2712]

fr

[@Bandog23]

@@Koroto The marley reveal hits so fucking hard it's insane.

[@joshuahopkin1433]

😂😂😂 I love S Tier yapping 😂😂😂

[@ColonialSun-mg6tq]

One detail you may have missed or are just saving for later the blond haired man on the wall next to Grisha who is pushed off the wall is Falcos uncle who is why Colt was forced to join the warrior program

[@FishBias]

Wait what?!???

[@AnthonyFleagle]

I think everyone already knows this but you can find all of the victims of Marley's "execution" methods for Eldians across the show. Notoriously the talking titan from the 34th expedition was friends with Ymir when she was in that cult, the scout he met resembles Ymir, so when he was worshipping Ymir, it wasn't Ymir Fritz, he thought he found his friend and personal idol again, even ripped at his jaw to fight the titan instinct to kill, before deciding to only eat her head and then guard her body out of respect, which is when Levi finds and kills it.

[@sanninjiraiya]

What I loved about the Gross scene was how he stares through the camera, directly at the viewer. He was talking to Grisha but it was also a direct challenge to the viewer and how we have been doing the same as him when watching this show.

[@Koroto]

Yup, I think that was very much directed at the audience. Talking about the appeal of violence in a show with so much violence is waaaay too on the nose 😅

[@hhdbhn302]

Ikr? I hated that. I felt gross. (Lol)

[@maintrain527]

The best part about that is Kruger asking if it was fun to watch. Most of us celebrating Gross' violent death proved him right.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@maintrain527 It depends, celebrating someone awful's demise is not the same as hating all marleyans etc.

[@thespeculativemusician]

I’m almost sure (if I recall correctly) that on that scene Gross says ‘omoshiroi’ which is not ‘fun’, it’s just like in the dub, ‘interesting’ 😋

[@skoll6007]

I remember showing this episode to my german girlfriend for the first time, it was funny Her: "Sam... Why are they wearing armbands?" me: oh uh... no reason

[@Koroto]

It's literally the mr incredible becoming uncanny meme, isn't it 😭

[@enderlp9666]

as a german let me recommend telling her that its just a famous accessory a lot of people wore way back and when she finds out what its about you got something to laugh about

[@enoyna1001]

I've accidentally read some comic spoilers in the YT comments before even Annie was a known Titan Shifter (if I recall correctly). Somebody described the story of AOT basically as German history before 1945.

[@DearSis]

I’m pretty sure, German or not, everyone’s first thought was… ”they’re wearing armbands? ….no….NO….DONT TELL ME!”

[@wickedrank1739]

@@DearSisyeah, like why even bring up she’s German lmfao, everyone has that reaction 🙄

[@Zayedtt]

20 minute episode,40 minute anyalysis .that's what i like about this show

[@andrewovcharenko3017]

Also interesting thing about Paradise as Madagascar. It's obvious that Marly treat Eldians on the continent as Germany treated Jews in that period of 1933-45 and there was also "The Madagascar plan" - plan to move Jews from Europe to Madagascar. So i think "Paradise=Madagascar" kinda makes sense with this parallel.

[@cerealkiller1024]

wow, that's crazy. They basically could have put 'based on true events' under the title with all these real world parallels

[@torinsmith5202]

​@@cerealkiller1024or, like most of literature it derives it's themes and art from real life events. You could say anything was "based" on true events depending on how fast and loose you wanna play with the terms.

[@DrizzyCaponeCorleone]

I also believe it was layered with Jewish Occult lore of " Oriental Kaballah" with the the (Aryan) mythos. I.e the Eldians substituted for jewish persons within marley.. the armbands acting as the (star of david)....Believe it or not, the Aryan superhuman mythos is tied in with heretical judiasm of oriental kaballah through Friedrich Schlegel his wife Dorothea Mendelssohn Schlegel and moses mendelssohn... The oriental kaballah being first passed down from (tibet,ancient hindu,japan) to the heritical judiasm kaballah..The Paridis/Madagascar island in AOT is tied into the real world "Madagascar Plan" of a Jewish homeland before Palestine.. the Titans being Aryans/Atlantis Race/and Hertical judiasm's "Lost tribes" of "gog and magog" to help King David conquer( aka Rumbling).. the Paridis Walls being how "Atlantis" looked with concentric circles.. very occult, deep stuff

[@M0nma09]

Or like how Israel treats Palestine now

[@Apollo05]

The brilliance of the shows ending is that it shows how in the end humans will always go to war with each other and commit genocide, even if they were once the victims of it. Just like Israel is committing a genocide against the Palestinians inside the walls.

[@andrewfrear7735]

41:31 did you ever notice that’s actually Eren on the wall talking to Grisha and not Kruger? Never realized that on my watch through. Crazy

[@jordanpatterson8536]

You will also notices that he changes his sitting position, swapping between Kruger and Grisha's.

[@ilikedonuts5638]

The titles of Episode 2 and 57 are actually different. While in English there is only "that", Japanese (like many other languages) uses more words in its place. Episode 2 is titled Sono Hi and 57 is titled Ano Hi. While quite similar, Ano Hi refers to a day that's further in the past than Sono Hi.

[@hybridvigga]

Past historical tense baby... *French enters the chat*

[@platonaspapadakis7729]

​@@hybridviggagreek and latin enter the chat

[@thespeculativemusician]

@@platonaspapadakis7729Spanish also enters the chat

[@Snzn_7]

Basically Ano Hi is something more so is generally use to in like Fairy tales or historical recallings, while Sono Hi is usually used in a context where the one speaking is recalling an event that happened personally to them.

[@Treebohr]

​@@Snzn_7 So it's like the difference between saying, "So this one time..." and, "Once upon a time..."?

[@saifhossain1661]

"When your Justice is hingent on a belief, you're in a very shaky ground"- Koroto my man casually dropped one of the most hard hitting statement in a retrospective video

[@natsu-batsu1339]

Interesting note: while both episodes 2 and 57’s translations are ‘that day’, there is a distinction in the Japanese titles. Episode two is called その日、(sono hi) while episode 57 is called あの日 (ano hi). Sono means that the object in question is close to the listener, but distant from the speaker, while ano means that the object is distant from both parties. This is probably because the narrative is being told *by* Armin, who lived through episode two. It’s not really philosophically important to the narrative, but an interesting note for non-Japanese speakers nonetheless.

[@jordanackland7844]

I go to hum the intro imagine my suprise when its just nature sounds 😅

[@Koroto]

👀👀

[@mrstar3218]

YEAH what the hell dude

[@Setsunako6587]

@@mrstar3218 **plot/setting/tone shift alert** 👀!!

[@melvinmalonga4068]

Grass' monologue is delivered while staring straight at the camera. He's directly telling the audience that he finds the cruelty interesting which is exactly the same for the audience. We don't find it fun in the sense that we didn't make the cruelty that is in the story of Attack on Titan but we're glad it's there. We would find the story uninteresting without it. And then as to prove his point, Kruger pushes him below and we get to enjoy him getting eaten alive by a titan.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

If Eren was the Beast Titan, he'd be a bird.

[@SA80TAGE]

it was pretty obvious Falco was gonna be a bird with that name too. There's a lot of subtle creative writing in a lot of anime but other times, not so much lol.

[@enoyna1001]

​@@SA80TAGEIt was not obvious at all. It was a nice nod in hindsight, but not obvious at all. None of the shifters have names associated with their Titans. If that was the case, this would have been obvious for the name Falco.

[@thespeculativemusician]

@@enoyna1001Well also the 1st thing that Falco is looking when he appears for the first time is a bird

[@SA80TAGE]

@enoyna1001 mate.... Erens last name is Yeager... also spelled Jeager.... and what is a Titan if not a giant flesh-mech with a pilot.... like a Jaeger in any mech anime (or Pacific Rim). The Attack Titan = Bio-Gundam Like I said.... It's not ALWAYS subtle.

[@فيصل-و3ي]

Can’t believe how perfectly timed this video is Seriously thank you thank you

[@kerat_357]

Another interesting detail I noticed is, that in 16:10 only the titans which Marley owned were portrayed. That shows that they have a closer connection to these titans than the other. They may not even want the marlian and eldian public to know that the founding and attack titans exist.

[@tomcrazyOMG5]

Somehow while watching this commentary, the parallel between Eldia and the island nation of Japan during WW2 becomes very clear. There is widespread hatred outside of their persecuted nation because of the atrocities they committed in Korea and Manchuria. There is a nuclear bomb (represented by Bertholt) that decimates their population twice. From the Japanese perspective, they are the victim - they do not understand the pain they have inflicted because they are a chosen race with a higher power (Japanese Emporer) on their side. But it is a cycle of violence that does not end. America will come and destroy them. And Attack on Titan is like this power alternate history fantasy where Japan gets an even bigger nuclear bomb, capable of destorying everyone outside their island... There is also an interesting historical parallel with the Japanese internment camps in America (who see themselves as Americans, not Japanese) who are oppressed because Americans fear them as agents of the enemy.

[@lucqq3792]

insert isayama has fascistic beliefs stock comment here

[@hankkingofmischief4372]

@@lucqq3792it’s true

[@TazariaGaming]

More fun facts, when Eren wakes up screaming, he speaks using "watashi" (Grisha's way of saying I) instead of his usual "ore". That's the thing Mikasa and Armin comment on. He's talking like Grisha, but because the others only hear "watashi" (which can also be feminine) they are very confused

[@Snzn_7]

watashi isn't really "feminine", it is actually neutral and is the most commonly use to call oneself irl. you probably have some misconceptions since you mostly consume "shonen" and male centric story where author will reflect on their demographics so they end up utilizing more of the "ore", "boku" wording to emphasis on the "shonen" vibe of the story. Because irl using Ore in most cases is that the user of it is trying to present himself in a more "manly" manner. Or it may be just that specific person more talks in a more "casual" manner.

[@TazariaGaming]

@@Snzn_7 Fair fair. I know it's a neutral, if slightly formal way of saying "I". Though still the comment Mikasa and Armin are making is about the pronoun. I forget if they specifically call it "female" or if the subs I watched translated it into something like "I thought I heard a girl talking" or something like that. But I remember it being brought up

[@Snzn_7]

@@TazariaGaming okay, I got the context

[@jeanolui3068]

I think they're saying smth like ''you're talking like a middle aged man''

[@corymatthewmouser1543]

Fun fact but some native American tribes also view owls as omens of death

[@ioanniskonovesis3438]

😮 in Greece too

[@leventehorvath2]

What I rarely see mentioned is how Gross' ideals and thought process is in a way refuted. He dies screaming in fear. He faced the cruelty of the world and will be ready when his time comes he says. But he isn't he dies like a dog. We see that no mater how right he seems to be and in a way is, he arrived at the wrong conclusion: to continue this cycle of cruelty instead of breaking away from it.

[@jip5889]

I’m a simple man. I see Koroto’s AoT series, I click.

[@Koroto]

Based.

[@GamerFlair]

So, the people that do the King math are wrong because the logic is wrong. King's can reign for more or less then 13 years. Being a Titan doesn't make you immortal, and you don't have to be a titan to be the king. Whilst its likely the majority were, its entirely plausible that there would be several that chose not to take the titan and allow a trusted family member to hold the titan, allowing them to reign for longer then 13 years.

[@commonviewer2488]

The head of the Tibur family did not have their family's titan power; other rulers could have forgone being shifters as well.

[@tabathacarruthers5122]

Also they lied about who the king was. The king was a puppet.

[@thetackyprincess]

Amazing! And I appreciate your sentiment about the cycle of violence. I am Jewish, and I worked in Palestine this summer doing emergency aidwork. So much violence is perpetrated on people who have no control over where they are born

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Attack on Titan would've never happened if Grisha didn't leave the zone.

[@SA80TAGE]

it still would've, it just would've played out differently. Kruger still has the attack Titan whether he meets Grisha or not, he just probably would've given it to someone else.

[@ДанилДолгий-н5н]

Marley would have attacked Paradis. and I also think The Owl would have found another person to inherit the titan.

[@Bandog23]

Honestly the way isayama writes the story is a little dumb in a way, because the opresses eldian race is supposed to be a methaphor for irl opressed races, but the thing is that the eldians unlike the jews for example turn into 15 meter monsters that kill people.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Which he always would because he had Eren in his brain since birth.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@Bandog23 Except they literally don't, that happens when they're forcibly injected or transformed by the founder. Aka kings/dictators forcing their subjects to commit atrocities etc. it's not completely literal.

[@doubleupload5620]

One thing I never really got was that Marley turned Ymir into a titan after she said the kings blood flowed through her but kruger stopped Marley from learning about dina’s and zeke’s royal blood so did they have a way to prove royal blood

[@nikolaresanovic8335]

The parabole between Serbian and Croatian for the same language spoken but written differently is spot on. Can't really give an example because our language is unique in a sense that every letter has a single voice so you read it exactly as it is written. I guess I could go with this: Српско-Хрватски Srpsko-Hrvatski Most Croats won't understand the Cyrillic letter but every Serb will understand both letters.

[@manda73]

yeah exactly, there are some phonetic differences that you can hear especially if you know either of the languages but it’s a pretty good example :)

[@tjaymetal3116]

That crazy part about AoT is you can let someone watch the show from start before this reveal and I’ll say it’s already top tier anime. And this reveal is just the start of the crazy shit. Damnnn bro

[@lordindisar4709]

They literally answered just about every single question and theory formed up to this point, and then posted even more equally important questions and theories

[@mugi2595]

When Eren screams after seeing Dina get turned into the smiling titan, he says, in Japanese: 'koko wa... watashi wa... naze?', which translates to: 'where (am I)... I (am)... what?' Which doesn't sound that weird when just waking up from a nightmarish memory dream. But he said: 'watashi', while he usually says 'ore'. Both mean 'I', but the former is a maculine pronoun, and the latter is neutral and formal, though it's usually used by women in informal situations. Armin and Mikasa then noticed that he said 'watashi' and found it strange. There is no 'I'm not him' line in the Japanese version that I'm familiar with, so I wonder if this is just the dub/sub taking liberties.

[@enoyna1001]

Possibly to emphasize that Eren changed perspectives, as there is nothing similar in English what Japanese does with its pronouns.

[@monikar.5490]

The latvian scene in 30:29, in the middle of a serious explanation was so unexpected 😂

[@ernestsgailits7428]

I thought for a second that youtube has made some kind of AI translator mid video 😂😂😂 (btw im latvian)

[@monikar.5490]

@@ernestsgailits7428 I partialy understood it (Lithuanian here) so that was even funnier. Still used a translator thinking I misunderstood 😂

[@aR3r-rg4yc]

Ngl alot of the racism in Marley probably could've been stopped by the tyburs if they actually tried

[@Perhapsawiseman]

35:38, I've always assumed that the size and type of titan, whether it be abnormal or not, depended on how much spinal fluid was injected into them and the spinal fluid's purity.

[@arceuslegend4605]

The show does a perfect job of showcasing the how humans have a deep capacity for cruelty against those we deem as "lesser". In the context of AoT, Marley is clearly a stand in for Nazi Germany, but the theme can be perfectly applied to many other violent conflicts: the US had set up interment camps for Japanese people, literally any conflict between Japan and China or Korea, and even today we can apply to what we see in AoT to Israel and their occupation of Gaza and the West Bank.

[@mg6md]

Israel has asked for peace so many times and even removed all Jews from their family homes in Gaza so Palestinians could govern themselves. In the sense Gazans hate Jews unjustly, so aren’t they like Marley; just without as much power?

[@-jonahdrake-]

Koroto always brings the heat. I don't often get excited about KZbin videos, but i get hyped when i see that my boi has posted a video yapping about aot. Top tier content

[@Sire-Swagg]

37:04 “I just find it interesting” is a great line, the way it reflects a viewer’s pov is fantastic. It reminds me of Flowey from Undertale, who reflects the player, killing every character, including Frisk over and over to see every outcome of the game. And you can only learn that information in the No Mercy route, where you do the exact thing as flowey. ugh it’s just such a great way to place the viewer into the perspective of the characters without actually breaking the fourth wall!!

[@wolfdestiny2519]

Any day korotos uploads is a good day

[@piglinplayz8391]

15:12 (top two) the symbolism is actually crazy, idk how I didn’t notice before

[@KeefSenpai]

30:32 Actually there’s an instance in season 4 where I remember Gabi meeting Kaya I believe her name was (girl that Sasha saved) and Gabi noted that Sasha’s family spoke with a Southern Marleyan dialect. And that was always interesting to me because Sasha’s family lived off the land so I always wondered about the correlation and history/lore behind that

[@kait64]

EVERYONE SHUT UP! KOROTOS MYSTERY SHACK POSTED

[@Daore05]

I am being honest, my entire worldview is changing the more I view overanalyses of Attack on Titan. This series, along with the playlist, is the absolute human masterpiece

[@ciboria1]

Armin bluffing to Bertholt; "They'll feed Annie to the pigs!" Bertholt; "That's a Tuesday over here!" Knowing how Fae and the other Eldians was treated, being displayed as well; No wonder Bertholt didn't really react to Armin's bluff

[@CrashBandicootFan100]

22:16 basically the scrapped Kale quest in Elden Ring. There's a vid showcasing it, reimplemented it and all its voicelines. It's great. Also the whole Marika, Miquella "caged deity" thing could be inspired by AoT.

[@ruanfagundes8768]

I love your videos so much! I swear, if my English level was more advanced and I had more free time, I would translate all the videos in this series just so that more Brazilians like me could see this masterpiece.

[@Supertaldo916]

I find it laughable when people say Isayama is somewhat of a WW2 japan apologist, or that he is a Japanese Fascist Nationalist. When we learn all of this, and can start making parallels of the Titans to atomic bombs (because Japanese storytelling of course), we can see that the peace vow is kind of the settlement of post world war 2 global politics. USA and the USSR had the nuclear weapons, and it meant mutually assured destruction, so we either find a way to seemingly “be at peace” or we destroy each other. The problem is that through that, we subjugate people into accepting a fate that they haven’t decided for themselves, and this in turn gives us pretty justifiable extremism. But, and here is the important part of why I think it is dumb to imply any War propaganda bs from the show, we see how some justifiable extremism builds up, without anyone wanting it, into everyone getting screwed. The show ALWAYS shows that the circle of hatred is a net negative to everyone. It was a net negative for everyone in AoT, it was a net negative for most of Europe in the 20th century, and it is a net negative today.

[@Frongo]

Ymir dates back 1820 years, but the year is 817/832/850/whatever. what could Year 0 signify?

[@MuffledPrawn]

Do we ever get told directly, how long ago the great titan war started? Could be that if not, year 0 could be when the titan war either started or ended?

[@JacksonHarris-z2n]

Yo i love this series take your time if its too much, you're so detailed and interesting in your analysis

[@SlavicFox]

My lunch break is gonna be great, this is gonna be such a banger

[@jessieBird96]

9:25 that this man is blaming them for him feeding their innocent daughter to his dogs for his and his son's sick entertainment makes me even happier that he was devoured by one of the restorationists. He is the one person in this show that IS truly evil.

[@lucidvozzi1868]

at 35:57 you could *kinda* include Zeke's plan in RTS as messing with the sizes of titans as its clear he had control over the size of the titans to match his plan

[@ZeroSeriesMMX]

The Marley reveal up to the end of the manga was Iseyama warning the readers and viewers of what humans can do to isolate people they are afraid of, and what said people did AND can still do when they are pushed to the brink. If mythological stories (and human history for the last 5000 years) weren't enough to learn from, people won't recognize a global calamitous threat even if it bitch-slapped them black and blue.

[@diegos1325]

@18:00 I mean it could still be Madagascar if the world is flipped 180° so that Madagascar and Africa are actually in the Northern hemisphere (as long as you ignore all of how geology and physics works)

[@Nuc1earP0tat0]

I always interpreted the Attack Titan's powers of past/present as only affecting the person after they inherited the titan. Meaning Eren could change things on whoever has the Attack Titan at the time, but not before they inherit it. This would imply that Eren would have Grisha's memories of leaving the internment zone, thus influencing The Owl to spare him, and eventually choose Grisha as a successor. I think Grisha had free will (as much as someone living in an internment zone can) until he inherited the Attack Titan. After that, he became one of Eren/Ymir's pawns.

[@DrProfNoNo]

35:55 I think we do see it once before and once later. The battle for shiganshina likely had some of zekes titans change to small 2-3 meter titans and a very specific amount to 15 meter titans. Later during the fort Slava bombardment we don't seem to see small titans. All of them appear to be similar size. Whether this is written to be tactical (so they could reach up high enough) or just ease of animation, I think you could make a point for both

[@roberth2833]

The fat guard does mention that he can/will make one of them into a smaller titan to let them fight. So, militarily speaking. You would make your living bombs into the biggest you can, for damage sake. The different sized ones on the island are probably proofs of the sadism of Marley.

[@DrProfNoNo]

@@roberth2833 what does this have to do with my comment?

[@roberth2833]

@@DrProfNoNo it would be tactical.....

[@kevinprevo9040]

Finally, since quality content on the internet. I've needed this today

[@jamesd.c.4810]

This is just a theory, but I’ve been enlightened from this. Kruger saying Armin and Mikasa’s names is a clear indication that because Kruger chose Grisha, the loop started. This is literally the story that Grisha started at that very moment. We have never seen any interference by the future Attack Titan holders from its past holders starting from that point on. That decision by Kruger is what started it and where Eren started to tap into the past holders of the Attack Titan. Because Grisha wanted to see the plane land he met Kruger, and because Kruger chose Grisha, everything concerning with the Attack Titan’s power with Eren started happening. It’s a deep theoretical concept but was so simply executed by Isayama. Sadly, he trusted his audience too much to pick up on these overtly simple things.

[@jamesd.c.4810]

To put it simply: 1. Everything before Kruger chose Grisha all happened by chance. 2. Kruger choosing Grisha is what actually started the narrative that includes the Attack Titan’s power shenanigans. This might’ve even happened when Eren was dreaming of these memories, since they didn’t really went that far back inside PATHS. 3. The loop started when Kruger passed the Attack Titan power to Grisha.

[@Factopia-pu2tz]

This is my first time commenting on your videos even if I have been watching them for months now. I just want to say that I've been lokking forward for this video. And thanks for your work and dedication

[@NotVerySteathy]

I got some food and a new retrospective overanalysis dropped? This is a sign from god

[@RedpilI]

the lack of jumpscare at the beginning jumpscared me

[@mdg5907]

33:50 it’s me that comes knocking!! What a cold scene from BB

[@Zetsubou738]

Im really enjoying these videos, Its inspired me to rewatch aot with fresh perspectives keep up the good work.

[@JohnWick-ut1tj]

ANOTHER video done How am i amazed every time I finish your videos....

[@jerryorder9084]

I love the ramblings and can’t wait for the next set of ramblings!

[@xtragedgnolf]

Holy hell did this ep change my view of this show, which also makes it the beginning of the show changing my views on life in general (yeah I know how that sounds, dw).

[@SA80TAGE]

there's always shows that can change a persons perspective on life and/or war, for me it was Space Above and Beyond.... well ahead of it's time, in dire need of a modern reboot.

[@darkside2er]

i believe the 2000 years is not between Ymir and Erin, its between the beginning of the story and the boy that finds the tree in the future in the epilogue

[@AM17titan]

but gabi says to kaya in s4 that eldians destroyed the world and forced them to have children for THOUSANDS OF YEARS

[@SA80TAGE]

possibly, but those sorts of time frames _are_ typically rounded out to help with the flow of dialogue (and sounding a little more grandiose). Even if rounding down, "22 hundred" doesn't sound as impressive as "2 THOUSAND"

[@roban2799]

Thank you for recognizing how great the dub scene is with Grisha and Gross. I've rewatched that scene at least 10 times at this point. It's so messed up, but also so realistic. Thinking that it's not unlikely such a conversation could have been commonplace here in Europe, not even 100 years ago, terrifies me. It really captures the dark part of human nature which lets us dehumanize each other to the point of allowing ourselves to commit horrendous crimes against each other. While the original Japanese version is also good, something about hearing and understanding it in english fascinates and disgusts me on a whole other level

[@exequielgaleano9947]

Such an excellent series, I can't thank you enough for it!!! I love the job your doing here!!! 😁

[@morningnapalm9963]

Is the "Devil of all things" from the fairytale just the gooey spine alien Ymir finds in the tree?

[@keatonkhoury6254]

I’ve never seen anyone acknowledge this but Eren was conceived while his father had the attack titan. Ymir had her children while she had the founder; other than that, I don’t know that we ever have a specific time someone is born of a titan-wielding parent. I think it could contribute to his fighting nature, in a way similar to how the nature of Tom M. Riddle’s conception contributes to him being unable to feel love.

[@jaxdoeseverything]

I didn’t know you just posted this but you explained this perfectly !

[@weremutt8]

Im a bit late to the party and I dunno if itll be mentioned in later episodes cuz im watching this series chronologically but I wanted to mention something about the timeline since its talked about at 9:40 with you saying Grisha is blamed for something 2000 years ago It has to be noted that Ymir gaining titan powers was 2000 years ago but this event took place in 817 and it was only in 743 that the Great Titan War took place, just 74 years ago. That officer guy looks late 30s at least so he must've grown up with stories from his grandparents telling him about what it was like living under the Eldians

[@IAmPhos548]

Speaking on the eng dub sometimes improving the original. I REALLY love how Kruger says "Watch closely. This is how we of the Nine use our power." That being said, peak cinema however you watch it.

[@Erenyeagernotfree]

This is the episode that cemented Attack on Titan as the greatest show in history.

[@jacks2573]

im watching this series closely, very good to have my lunch with. keep uploading please!

[@TazariaGaming]

Bit of Japanese (take with a grain of salt, I'm still learning the language). Though both this ep and ep 2 are called "that day" in English, the original Japanese is slightly different. Ep 2 is called "sono hi", for "that day I'm talking about that is relatively close by" (not sure how to explain it better, someone feel free to add). This ep is called "ano hi", or "that day (further) in the past". Ep 2 is about recent history that Armin recalls, not too long ago. This ep is about a day further in the past that he doesn't recall himself, but has heard about. A more historical event. The beauty is that these two titles are obvious parallels, drawing (at least that's my interpretation) attention to the fact ep 2 was Eren's Day Where Everything Changed, whereas this ep was Grisha's. If you speak of That Day, for Eren it'd be ep 2, for Grisha it'd be this ep

[@xeroprotagonist]

Yeah, the difference between sono and ano is hard to translate in English without introducing a lot of other weird unintended connotations. I think it'd be fairly reasonable to translate them as 'That Day' and 'That Day, Back Then' or 'That Day, Long Ago.'

[@Nic9458]

I wonder if the Owl telling Greisha to stay and watch the airship while the other guard took his sister away was influenced by Eren or the attack titan in general. I assume if Greisha followed his sister he would have been fed to the dogs as well, so the Owl telling him to stay kept him alive and ensures his hatred of Marley leading to him joining the restorationists, getting caught and being sent to paradise, and culminating with him meeting Carla and having Eren. And to me the meaning of the title “That Day”, is to convey the start of the hatred and cycle, at least for the Yeager family themselves.

[@andreacostanza7765]

I wanted to point out that even though the translation of both titles in English is "That day", in Japanese it is using two different demostrative pronouns: sono and ano. Sono implies something far away from the speaker but close to the listener while ano implies something far away from both speaker and listener. The fall of Shiganshina episode uses sono and the reveal episode uses ano.

[@mr_wilford1123]

Thank you for doing these. It helps me with knowing it’s over forever 😭

[@munbrazeh6700]

i loooove those long over analizing videos on snk, this is so cool to watch!!

[@derpymule7977]

Americans will watch AoT and say “but our inhumane prison system is okay because they deserve it” without blinking an eye

[@SA80TAGE]

aye they pretend Gitmo doesn't exist and break every human rights law in the book XD

[@Frizzleman]

Straight up. Not to mention Isreal Palestine

[@Daore05]

@@derpymule7977 what? I genuinely want to know what are you talking about

[@AIMalek]

Yes because american feed people to people in prisons.

[@thespeculativemusician]

Prisons, wars, are way too normalized

[@derangedberger]

33:13 the moment all Eren stans need to see... he is, indeed... not him

[@spaghettirav]

Perfect timing. I’m showing my roommate aot for the first time and we JUST finished this episode yesterday.

[@gg_sam7847]

I mean, they could have just taken the African, European and Asian continental landmass, flipped it upside down and then moved it north. That'd put all of irl Europe and Asia to go along the equator, explaining why the Middle Eastern equivalent nations are so prominent in that war as that'd most of Asia. Not to mention when we saw little snippets of where Onyankonpon came from during the Rumbling it was very London coded. Maybe Hizuru and the rest of the Asian seeming countries are the irl Americas. Personally I'd love to see them joined together by that Mexico/Central America part and by that Chilean part, just a really long stretch of land that balloons out at both ends lol. Maybe Hizuru itself, being a Japan equivalent, is the island we know as Cuba and the islands surrounding it. Just some neat ideas I've had in the past. Oh also the only reason we consider North to be the "top" is because that's where the imperial powers that essentially ruled the world were based. Maybe the world isn't flipped but those continents were still moved towards a Pole, and since that'd be considered the "top" by the Eldian Empire and Marley then naturally the sun would set in what we'd consider the East

[@miwi7706]

In my head, I didn't flip the climate, only the map. So Paradis has now similar climate to that of middle of Europe. Makes no sense to flip the climate along with the map... 😂

[@goldeneye1689]

There is also the issue of record keeping from 2000 years ago. It is possible that it might've not been rounded up. Then again, there can be historians that pieced the past together.

[@genessab]

Korotos my GOAT welcome back

[@ComputerWizard]

I was sp interested in this episode inapmost forgot to clock back into work on my lunch break lol

[@Milkermaner]

Random Language fact, but Urdu and Hindi are spoken pretty much entirely the same way, but are written in different scripts. Obviously there's different words for certain things as well, but the two language speakers can perfectly talk to one another, though they can't read a thing the other has written unless they know both scripts.

[@LRibeiro97]

Actually, in japanese, one of the episodes is called "That Day", and the other "On That Day". I've seen an explanation as to the meaning of this is an youtbe comment, but can't remember now.

[@FrankFreezy_]

Great video mate

[@killer_piranha99x4]

I remember in the background when Ymir accepted Eren’s wish Eren is literally the Devil in the book

[@rytyc8874]

41:30 so we're just not gonna talk about how Kruger is literally Eren in this image?

[@Koroto]

That's why I use it 👀 More on that next time

[@Westernbarley]

wonderful video as always

[@Accomodare]

Are we ever supposed to actually think about Kruger’s story and how he came to both possess the Attack Titan and also how he became a secret Eldian agent working on the inside of Marley? I know people have assumed that Eren basically controls all the Attack Titans throughout history in order to keep the timeline working towards his ends, but to me that feels *slightly* boring and less fun than giving the Attack Titan users their own autonomy to seek out liberation through the generations. I think we can certainly attribute *some* of Kruger’s and Grisha’s actions to Eren’s shenanigans, but that’s why I wonder where exactly do we draw that line and what might that imply for Kruger’s story before meeting Grisha.

[@juricav.3688]

30:47 Totally shook to hear Croatia being mentioned in AoT video but the point is true. I understand Serbian but can't read their texts 🤷🏻‍♂️🫣

[@jadenbeta346]

This is one of 2 youtubers that even if sometimes i dont know wth hes talking about, i still find it entertaining. The other one being nile red

[@lukaslambs5780]

Am I the only one who gets emotional watching these because it makes me remember how I felt watching this masterpiece? It’s just so incredible 😭

[@Soaring_Penguin]

30:28 Love the video, but the only thing I will comment on is this. When Gabi meets Sasha's family, she notices that the dad has a "South Marleyan accent", so apparently there are dialects, I'd guess.