How the Marlins accidentally won another World Series in the middle of falling apart | Collapse

[@SecretBaseSBN]

Thanks for watching episode four of Collapse, if you missed previous episodes...well you can find those pretty easily, they’re somewhere on here. Collapse can mean so many different things - declining over a few seasons, a series, a game, a career - and we’re looking forward to exploring all of those stories. And as always, we appreciate the feedback and suggestions so please keep them coming and stay tuned for more. Oh and I found the link to the first three episodes k thanks love you bye Ep. 1 Bucs - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYnUnKGtrbZooa8&t Ep. 2 Nets - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnmqqYR5Z5J2opI&t Ep. 3 NY Giants - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eF7QpWmEerCpe5I

[@BattlePants321]

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[@dorianj74]

Since it's baseball season, the 2015 Royals could be a good one. Maybe a little early, but still.

[@matteocecchetto7252]

2017 Ottawa Senators???? Probably too early

[@brysmith07]

@@dorianj74 I was totally expecting those Royals to be featured this week

[@Crzysquirrel124thst]

You should do a collapse video on the 2014-2015 Royals

[@TheWileycyote95]

The Marlins are the epitome of a broken clock being right twice a day

[@PhoenixAscending]

Good one 😂

[@azuredusk991]

Exactly

[@azuredusk991]

Just like Tampa bay lightning

[@ashtonwhite7077]

@@azuredusk991at least Tampa bay won they division

[@Ballardgeonte]

Dead ass considering they won 2 times in 20 some odd years lmao the fact they won two rings and never won their own division is insane to me

[@lonelychameleon3595]

Only the Marlins can accidentally win a World Series

[@razkable]

the 03 team was no accident....look at the rotation of pitchers...pavano penny beckett willis looper redman urbina with pug lee cabrera castillo pierre conine gonzalez hollandsworth mordecai lowell encarnacion as hitters..those are 18 names everyone should know in the mlb fanbase...that team was stacked

[@lcrossmk8563]

That's ridiculous. NO ONE wins the World Series by accident. The Marlins were the real deal and they showed it the entire season--and they tore down everyone standing in their way and won the World Series.

[@lcrossmk8563]

@GTC Pohorex Also wrong. The 2003 squad didn't completely disband until after the 2005 season. From 2003 to 2005, many of the core players on the World Series-winning team played for the Marlins.

[@OroborusFMA]

2003 Yankees were clearly better. Unfortunately Boone was a choke artist that entire post-season and no one remembers it because he managed to hit that one knuckleball out to beat the Sox in the ALCS. Boone had a runner at third and less than two outs - get that run in and Rivera closes, Yankees up 3-1. But Boone strikes out, and instead Torre went with that other horrible choke artist, Jeff Weaver who promptly lost the game.

[@lcrossmk8563]

@@OroborusFMA What are you saying is clearly a reminder that the Marlins were better. The better team won the series, it's that simple.

[@illiniguy34]

Florida man accidentally wins the World Series and then throws everything away.

[@davepitassi1066]

MANCHESTER UNITED we don’t care

[@vikelhombre3107]

@MANCHESTER UNITED US, Mexico, Cuba, DR, Venezuela, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, China, Canada, Honduras and Vietnam are some examples

[@vikelhombre3107]

@MANCHESTER UNITED So just because Mexico is a soccer country disregards it's very sizeable baseball numbers?

[@vikelhombre3107]

@MANCHESTER UNITED Yes, it is a minority sport there, but its still not rare

[@kevaninthe4135]

@MANCHESTER UNITED Soccer still sucks.

[@KimarKurosaski]

Shout out to Gary Sheffield. Was planning to stay there despite all the fuckery, agreed to only look at trade possibilities to help out his homie and then made sure to secure the bag upon getting there.

[@brugai8917]

yo for real, Sheff finessed the fuck out of the Dodgers. i loved him when he came to the Yankees and appreciated him playing through an injured shoulder. this story adds to my respect

[@orangecrushaa]

You get what you can get for your professional career it doesn't last forever

[@thomasmartin4281]

Didn’t care for him as a kid but the older i get the more I respect his shrewdness

[@elgmac73]

I'm glad he made pay those dogs big time for his trade

[@smokesgtp]

Sheff is a smart man.

[@Imac7065]

As a starving FLORIDA Marlins fan who was so attached to these teams I wrote multiple high school and college thesis' on what Wayne Huizinga and Jeffrey Loria did to us... thank you for making this video. Thank you

[@baxatakbaxatak2014]

And what Derek Jeter WILL do to this team....

[@TheWileycyote95]

The Marlins are the epitome of a broken clock being right twice a day

[@baxatakbaxatak2014]

@@TheWileycyote95 Spot on, spot on.

[@TheUnderratedSeries]

baxatak Baxatak what? Get them to the playoffs? In the NLDS?

[@Dodgers_2]

Seriously Marlins love trading away talent

[@kaminsod4077]

I feel bad for all 6 remaining Marlins fans. Watching their team winning it all, then getting violently dismantled over and over again.

[@JonathanRod]

There is actually 4 of us, sorry dude

[@brandonalmendares1642]

i am one of them, trust me going into this season i am still as optimistic as ever. you should see Marlins starting pitching this spring, this team truly is a wonder, a twisted wonder, that i love.

[@seadav0183]

Five, don't forget the one guy who's always ready to bandwagon@@JonathanRod

[@jaym2111]

Thank you

[@brandonalmendares1642]

@@JonathanRod smh lmao

[@gTuya11]

2 playoff appearances, 2 pennants. Gotta give the Marlins credit, they are efFISHent.

[@TaintedNimbus]

Unlike my beloved Braves...

[@gman2506]

Haha

[@fredokeys3405]

That was funny asf😂😂

[@kingmo8789]

Haha I sawfish what you did there.

[@gTuya11]

Couldn’t help it. The SBnation crew is a good grouper guys

[@905kar5]

Bro I wish I could accidentally win the lottery while I go bankrupt

[@BokuGlack]

Kayman234 same

[@robertholston4708]

Be careful what you wish for.

[@derpmcgerp8062]

I'm your 666th like. Lol

[@Blue_Bronco]

Yea that would be nice

[@quanbrooklynkid7776]

@yoda kazam Right

[@kaqueburlington4278]

That is one of the most amazing facts in sports history - The Marlins are the only team in pro sports to win multiple championships & win the championship every time they made the playoffs, but has NEVER won their division. That is mind blogging.

[@flabuzzsports7649]

Kaque Burlington I love them; the most confusing team in sports. No division titles but two championships. No player has ever hit for the cycle as a Marlin (only team without a cycle). The Marlins also have no HOF Representatives in Cooperstown. But they do have their 6 no hitters. And only the Cardinals, Red Sox, Yankees, and Giants have as many championships since the Marlins were created in 1993 and won their two.

[@plasticwrapcharlie]

@Kaque Burlington lol mind blogging?

[@Valspartame_Maelstrom]

plasticwrap uhh..yeah? it’s so crazy that your mind subconsciously starts a blog on the subject.

[@laynwhiting8693]

True fact there..hs

[@laynwhiting8693]

Now..hear me out here..im looking for this story..the one that involves a coaches relative from the Marlins that was in the hospital during that world series..the coach had asked players if they would visit that person during that world series. one of the marlins that did, in particular was Craig Counsel. The kid in the hospital said Craig reminded him of a crow.. at the end of the visit..the kid says ..the crow flies at midnite..the next day .CC crossed the plate on a base hit at 12 midnite..to win the series..look it up..it was a Paul Harvey Rest Of the Story when i heard this..cannot find it anywhere..

[@raulordonez364]

How the 2003 roster came together is an interesting story and deserved more attention.

[@dantegood2195]

It was funny cause up until then the marlins had won two chips despite being a bumbling, Florida operation barely a decade old, and meanwhile the cubs/Red Sox had gone damn near a century without a title.

[@EbonAvatar]

The White Sox had gone even longer than the Worse Sox without a title.

[@jordanc3714]

@@EbonAvatar 2 rings in 6 years get hip

[@Hacksaw_HIM_Thuggin]

Dante Goodman no the cubs went beyond a century.

[@razkable]

yeah..miami won while not trying to with no fans and as a fresh new team while the cubs and red sox tried so hard for nearly 90 years each lol ...

[@big8dog887]

Not to mention that baseball's model organization at the time, the Braves, only managed to win one.

[@chaosof99]

You could do an episode on how the Pittsburgh Penguins went from winning back to back Cups in the early 90s to declaring bankruptcy in 1998.

[@Greg56_]

Yeah, but the penguins rose again by winning the Stanely Cup in 09', 16', & 17'.

[@dylananderson1559]

gamermaster56 nope false. The Penguins haven’t won a cup since 1992

[@dylananderson1559]

Hans nope nope nope. You obviously don’t know hockey. Stick to lacrosse and soccer you soft bitch!

[@ManticMenace]

@Millennium Falcon a joke do you know it

[@thebeatleswin1]

gamermaster56 so? They still collapsed for a while

[@jsolo9621]

The Marlins are undefeated in the postseason, having never lost a playoff series lmao.

[@adamgarnes4269]

That’s true!! Very wild

[@noobmaster-wj3qm]

They're not undeafeated, they lost games

[@ChristianGamesDecently]

@@noobmaster-wj3qm he said having never lost a series, not just a game

[@lnd1998]

😂😂

[@thedoctor9138]

That's true they've only made the Playoffs twice and both times they won the World Series. I praise them for their efficiency. However more often than not they've been a losing team and in the years that they won the World Series they won it as the Wild Card Winner. They never have won their division ever in their existence. Overall they're 324 games below .500 as a Franchise. While that seems like a small amount of games to overcome to get back to over .500 all time. They still have to hope their Prospects pan out and that Jeter and Co. do right by the Team and get pieces outside the team for them to be competitive. They also have to hope they have a decent season. If not the deficit and losing record becomes bigger and harder to overcome.

[@manmann55]

As someone that went to the games, and was a huge Marlin's fan growing up, watching this still hurts. 2 greedy managers, multiple fire sales, getting duped for a stadium no one wanted, and watching these owners cash out with millions/billions...

[@mattl4119]

As a tigers fan I would like to give a big thank you to the marlins for giving us all their best parts and making us good for 10 years. Miguel Cabrera, dombrowski, leyland, pudge. We couldnt have done it without them

[@fireforce9706]

True haha

[@crystalmage2410]

Gotta give credit where credit is due. They won 2 championships without winning their division, they beat two heavy favorites, and they did so without spending a ton of money. Kudos to the Miami Marlins

[@ArmadilloAl]

Hard to give anything resembling credit to a franchise that has been around for 25 years and never once won their division.

[@ktat01]

Florida Marlins

[@henryperez606]

ArmadilloAl It’s not hard to give them credit they won I was there

[@vulcanraven9701]

@@ArmadilloAl So? they won 2 titles while doing it. the indians on the other hand have won division & keep taking L's

[@mrmacross]

The 1997 Marlins did spend a lot of money. They spent a lot of money in the prior offseason for free agents, bringing in Alex Fernandez, Moises Alou, Bobby Bonilla, Jim Eisenreich, as well as some guys like Al Leiter and Kevin Brown the season before. And then the next year, they dumped every big contract they could because Wayne Huizenga preferred making money over winning. The 2003 team was a budget team built through scouting, great drafts, clever value trades, and only one major free agency signing (Ivan Rodriguez).

[@jamesj5k]

My Detroit Tigers low key stole everyone on that 2 time World Series champion Marlins and we still couldn’t win one. Here’s a list of guys we stole: Miguel Cabrera Pudge Rodriguez Gary Sheffield Dave Dembrowsky Jim Leyland

[@MichaelKolesarKoleslaw]

As a Cubs fan at that time I was really pulling for those fun Detroit teams.

[@brandenvibez4378]

Maaannnnmm you telling me. I’m a Detroit sports fan

[@samilles472]

The Red Sox also helped dismantle that 2003 Marlins team.

[@jamesj5k]

It was depressing that my Tigers ended up having just as big as a fall now as the Marlins did in this vid

[@enigmatiks]

Don't forget Dontrelle Willis, but at that point he was washed up

[@MarloSoBalJr]

Incredible collapse. The Marlins is that "forgotten" franchise that has only be sucker-punched into an even bigger abyss. Either Jeter is a pure genius because he has a Complete 180° Plan in place or the team is held in handcuffs because of their stadium in Little Havana. Sucks for them.

[@razkable]

to be fair they got their 2 titles in 6 years....what did the cubs do for 106 of their 107 year drought but lose before the world series?..or the red sox 86 year drought...like the Indians are still waiting...the marlins aren't that bad off are they?...

[@slider903]

Even while living through all but one of their collapses I will never abandon them. They’re still my boys no matter what. But now that we have someone who cares about winning I actually have hope.

[@lcrossmk8563]

Uh, really? Wow, that...that's just awesome! You, my friend, are the epitome of a baseball fan, and for you and your friends, I want nothing more than for the Marlins to rise from the dead one more time and scratch and claw their way to one more title, and for the Miami crowd to embrace them once again.

[@slider903]

@@lcrossmk8563 Thank you so much for the kind words. Your comment made me tear up....I know one day we will rise again for good, to end the torment, to earn our city, and to forge our dynasty.

[@slider903]

@@lcrossmk8563 WE'RE BACK!!!!!!!!!!

[@furioussherman7265]

The worst part is that it basically all happened again in 2017. Giancarlo Stanton had the greatest non-steroid enhanced home run season since Roger Maris in 1961, winning the NL MVP in the process, while Christian Yelich, J.T. Realmuto, and Marcell Ozuna were on the verge of greatness. The team itself only won 77 games, but the future was bright. However, that offseason, the Marlins unloaded everything they had, shipping Stanton to the Yankees (where he'd get perpetually injured), Yelich to Milwaukee (where he'd win an MVP of his own), Realmuto to the Phillies, and Ozuna to the Cardinals, ensuring that Miami would remain the worst team in baseball for years to come.

[@zionreid2537]

I requested this video, just want to say thank you Sb Nation, huge fan.

[@ktat01]

Geesh get a room

[@zionreid2537]

@@ktat01 u mad bro?

[@albertrodriguez9086]

I requested this in the comments to the last one. It's fun because they can actually do a sequel of the shit of the entire Loria era up to now, which I am now officially requesting.

[@bobbob-iv4we]

if it was just you they wouldn’t have done it

[@Jiff321]

I know 2 Zions. You're the worst one i know.

[@neal6473]

You forgot to mention that 2003 team also had Dontrelle Willis aka D-train they got him from the draft after the rebuilding of the 1997 team 😉👍.

[@mechanickzilla]

They actually got him in a trade from the Cubs when he was still a minor leaguer.

[@YoshiEgg25]

Willis was actually drafted by the Cubs - he was a piece of the 2002 trade that sent Matt Clement and Antonio Alfonseca to Chicago.

[@timothysam8376]

I was waiting

[@MikeE_wf]

I forgot about d-train. I even copied his pitch when i played baseball

[@danr154]

Man that's a whole sad story in and of itself. Poor Dontrelle. I hated the Marlins for 2003 as a Cubs fan, but D-train was cool, easy guy to root for. Sad things fell apart on him with his life.

[@mikecraig2062]

So even when they win the Marlins are a disaster.

[@matthewmazzatto8003]

They are the October team with the shittiest April to September you could imagine. If they somehow get into the playoffs via Wild Card, they will win the World Series.

[@lookinforthe70s]

Yep, pretty much. As a fan of the team, spot on analysis.

[@lcrossmk8563]

@@lookinforthe70s No. When the Marlins win, they go big. When they lose, they go home.

[@Blackout.1644]

@@matthewmazzatto8003 basically the NL version of the Royals

[@noobmaster-wj3qm]

The mlb version of the carolina hurricanes

[@SCSAsJorts]

That World Series run the Marlins had was so crazy but so under appreciated and forgotten about

[@brianstudnicky9970]

I was then and still am today a marlins fan...what a rollercoaster ride it was in those days..i was at the home opener yesterday..i am proud ou our history....I loved those days..i hated the fire sales..but we have a new direction these days and I am excited for the future..go marlins in 2019..

[@cj694x2]

I lived in South Florida from 2002-2017, and I gotta say I loved watching the Marlins. There were definitely some trying times, but I saw lots of great players and plenty of magical moments over the years. 2003 was simply amazing, so much fun watching that team.

[@Truschoolsports]

We don't normally go to the playoffs but when we do we decide to win the whole damn thing, LETS GO MARLINS!!!

[@FluentInfluence]

Mikey K ‘03 NLDS 😂 so stfu

[@nathaniellevesque2782]

People keep forgetting Mike Piazza used to be a Marlin.

[@iamjobu6101]

Greatest marlin of a time

[@LiamHoyo]

I am Jobu no pudge is is the greatest catcher in marlins history

[@henryperez606]

Nathaniel Levesque For a week

[@Supermanfan99]

And Carlos Delgado

[@egoandy1188]

5 days ! That has to count

[@bookshelf5759]

Im from south florida and a lifelong marlins fan. What started the last slide down was Jose Fernandez passing away. Before that all the marlins needed was a couple of starting pitchers, but after losing jose it was too much and they had to rebuild

[@rappcu]

They also had a great OF with Ozuna, Yelich, Stanton. Once the team was dismantled I only went when my beloved Cubs came in town. Previously I’d make a couple games per month. Glad Loria/Sampson is out of the picture.

[@philthornton1382]

@@rappcu I dunno, still seem better than the Jeter regime

[@braydenbrewer2122]

@@philthornton1382 jeter's been gone

[@richitorres1able]

20 years later: how the marlins accidentally won a postseason series in the middle of a collapse (and pandemic)

[@lhsbandfreak11]

Honestly stunning that it took until 2020 for them to lose a postseason series at all. As a Braves fan, I was honestly sweating out Game 1 until the 7th inning because it just felt as if the postseason voodoo was working its stuff on the Marlins again up to that point

[@mkf541]

What amazes me is that the Marlins have never won a division title, but have won the World Series... twice.

[@dingdong7610]

Lol all the old timers who were against the Wild Card, and said if you won, you won, pointed this out, that a team could win a WS and never a division pennant, and were laughed at. They ended up being right.

[@why-km6lo]

@@dingdong7610 that's the point of the wild card to give other teams a chance at winning

[@Josh-ut4wv]

@@why-km6lo well it is because there were many years that a team would do great having the 2nd best record in MLB but the best record was oh yeah in their division and so they don't get a chance which is why one was put in and then it was expanded to two and then later 3 chances. Look the phillies even made the WS even though they got in the playoffs right near the end of the season. Now one intresting thing about the Marlins is they have made 3 appearances last one being in 2020 and before that season they were perfect in the playoffs

[@RYMAN1321]

@@Josh-ut4wvWasn’t the strike in 94 a big reason for the introduction of the Wild Card the next year? I was barely even a year old so correct me if I’m wrong

[@Josh-ut4wv]

@RB01.10 No, the format had been put in that season (both the wildcard and the central divisions) but due to the strike there were no playoffs

[@davidvlado4253]

That 03 team was staaaaaacked. 3 4 HOFers on that team.

[@wesleyhunt7599]

The closest thing to a Legacy of Failure while actually having won a championship or two.

[@averagejosh6699]

Laughs in Yinzer Mode

[@Memorex996]

The year is 2019 and we still mention Steve Bartman and not Alex Gonzalez's error that could've been a double play to end the ending

[@travisdavidjohnson8019]

Thank you for mentioning this. Just like poor Bill Bukner, Bob Stanley threw a wild pitch before the Bukner error. Cubs still had it until the botched double play.

[@TheMadStork83]

It’s because Bartman is a much sexier story for the casual viewing audience. The casual audience couldn’t care less about the DP that should’ve been made by Alex Gonzalez; just like the casual viewing audience could care less about Bucker and not about Calvin Schiraldi or John McNamara really being the key factors in the Red Sox losing Game 6 in ‘86.

[@toptenguy1]

As a Montreal Expos fan, this one was especially painful. But I simply cannot deny the insane talent that the 2003 Marlins had in every single position. Mostly speedsters Juan Pierre and Luis Castillo, followed by 4 legit homerun hitters. Gave the Expos constant headaches lol

[@co81385]

This was an awesome video! I was always fascinated by these two Marlins teams, especially the 1997 team, which my older brother referred to as "buying a championship, and then selling it away".

[@doyle1992]

I feel like doing one of these on the New York Islanders could be interesting, exploring the time immediately after their 5th consecutive finals appearance through the mid 90's/turn of the century

[@Eric13345]

That same story would also tell of the rise of the Oilers, would be interesting I am sure

[@j.mieses8139]

Thank you for the Video. That 1997 team is one of my favorite childhood memories. 2003 was cool as well!

[@BlitzTD]

Leaving a comment here because I know I’ll come back to this video in a year or two or three

[@ianosorio9591]

Edgar Renteria is a WS legend. He single handedly won the 1997 World Series for the Marlins and the 2010 World Series for the Giants.

[@IncredibleFulk1]

Ian Osorio Don’t forget though, the 2010 Giants also had Tim Linecum still in his prime and both young Buster Posey and Madison Bumgarner. But Edgar Renteria was truly the MVP of the 2010 WS. I’ll never forget his heroics.

[@ContainsMultitudes]

No mention of d-train at all. I am disappointed.

[@rejachemno]

D.J. Howell Word. 😔

[@wusselrestbrook9551]

He declined rapidly after '05, but I agree, he was a big piece of their franchise at the time

[@bjchit]

Nor any mention of Álex González, Mike Lowell, or Pudge Rodriguez.

[@bobbob-iv4we]

bjchit im listening to them mention pudge right now why dont you pay attention

[@bjchit]

@@bobbob-iv4we Wow, once in passing. Why don't you try not being a dick?

[@APupNamedSmokey]

This brought back a lot of bad memories... The Bonilla, Johnson and Sheff was pretty heartbreaking when it happened. In any case, great video!

[@zionreid2537]

Also can you guys do the blue jays of 93? Great team looked like a dynasty but just collapsed.

[@raz1683]

Well 92' & 93' was a great couple of years but due to the strike it decimates the squad

[@falseshepherd-490]

I'm from the same town as catcher Darren Daulton, and remember watching that 97 Marlins team. A lifelong Braves fan, I couldn't help but root for Daulton and the Marlins. That season was something special, I'll never forget it.

[@tdsportscards]

I was completely shocked in 1997, horrible deals...I went to school with Colbrunn, he was on the 1st Marlins ride...cool memories

[@rodgermurphy5721]

Florida has some of the most unsupported teams in baseball but shockingly also have multiple world series rings

[@lcrossmk8563]

Actually, the teams are supported, and it's because of those World Series titles.

[@slider903]

We've had great players in all sports but our managers have been very cruel to us.

[@neal6473]

Great video I remember that 1997 team and 2003 team as well but that 2003 team was built through draft picks that was build up after the 1997 team.

[@razkable]

only 8 of the main 20 players on that team were drafted by the marlins

[@lcrossmk8563]

That's why I love the Marlins. Their players, coaches, and management are among the best in baseball. They make the Marlins, not the front office, and certainly not Loria.

[@blovett0814]

Watching these Collapses, I have noticed a pattern: ownership and the front office always gets in their own way or is too cheap/greedy to let things happen. If the Thunder won't so cheap, they could have kept James Harden for example. Just saying 😒

[@dephy11]

Facts

[@tomr719]

It's amazing because I grew up with a Marlins single-A team by my house, and that was the baseball we could afford to see on a regular basis, so as a kid I rooted so hard for Miguel Cabrera, Charles Johnson, Josh Beckett, Dontrelle Willis, Preston Wilson, etc. I barely even knew that they went to play for a team in Florida after they left single A. But they were my favorite players who signed my glove and batting gloves and watching them play made me love baseball.

[@jonathancollazo]

Zebulon, North Carolina?

[@cuervojones6454]

Even through all this, the Marlins still won more chips than my Braves with multiple HOF pitchers. Biggest chokers of the 90s by far😭😭😭

[@maxhorsford7800]

All these collapses seem to come down to greedy management

[@dwaynehoward240]

Money is evil

[@arthasmenethil4297]

Dwayne Howard No the worship of money is evil, money is a tool. And the Marlins don’t have the revenue to spend like the Yankees, Red Sox, and Dodgers.

[@RoyalFusilier]

If you broadened the lens to other industries and sports, I suspect it would be largely the same story.

[@GreatMewtwo]

@@arthasmenethil4297 I laugh at how painful it was that the Marlins organization cashed in after every World Series/Pennant run. As an entrepreneur, you would think that they would keep a winning team to keep winning and sell tickets.

[@staalman1226]

Not the Red Wings as much.

[@MTG_Scribe]

I'd like to see the Collapse of the Hartford Whalers.

[@confusedcowboy]

Were they ever high enough to even collapse?

[@Karmy.]

Or the Detroit Red Wings

[@patrickbooth5091]

Mike Provencher II they were never very good, the collapse of the north stars would be better

[@MTG_Scribe]

Maybe they weren't a championship team, but they actually meant a lot to the city of Hartford, they were really popular despite what the owner claimed, and then all of a sudden they were just gone. I think it would be a really fascinating story, especially in this format.

[@patrickbooth5091]

Mike Provencher II really popular? You know they averaged more than 15,000 per game in a season right? Their last season they averaged less than 14,000. The few years prior to leaving they weren’t able to draw 12,000 a night. You may have really liked them and been a big fan but they were not popular by any stretch.

[@jaronzennaiter]

That 97 Marlin team was stacked!!! They could have dominated for years, if not sabotaged.

[@vladiator8120]

No way. Maybe battle it out with the Braves for NL dominance but the Yankees were way too good from 1998-2000. Don't think they would have won any more WS in those years but perhaps won another pennant.

[@runcaz7802]

Good stuff. The only thing I had remembered from that 2nd WS title was young and relatively skinny Miguel Cabrera getting knocked down by a deliberate high inside fastball from A-Hole Rocket Roger, only to bounce right back up to homer off him a few pitches later... TO THE OPPOSITE FIELD! ! I was a fan of Miguel Cabrera from then on.

[@bookshelf5759]

Im from South Florida and am a diehard Marlins fan. It is hard though. Sometimes you just want to give up on them.

[@16ktsgamma]

The Marlins:We blow up our own team to make it back to the championship and blow it all up again.

[@razkable]

whats funny is the team they had prior to jeter getting here wasn't going to win but now that they are doing it the right way watch them win in 5 years lol and blow it up again..shame too cause both teams could of repeated ...

[@masontoleary]

LA Kings 2 Stanley Cups in 3 years and now second worst in the NHL.

[@eila2088]

No one left though just got old and slow. NHL has little player movement so doubt they would cover them except maybe Senators cause of the insane amount of drama.

[@tmlfan7785]

Mason O'Leary they just got old and slow. Better teams would be the collapse of the 90s-now Islanders

[@xueyanghe7704]

they became awful after letting Gretzky walk however that was in the 90s

[@iinangelo]

You forgot the Beckett, Lowell, Alex Gonzalez trade to Boston for Hanley Ramirez

[@BobRoberts-yd3wm]

Wow as probably the last remaining Marlins fan on earth, this video was both sad remembering the multiple dismantlings of the Marlins and the joy of winning two World Series. LETS GO FISH!!!!!

[@fireforce9706]

Yeah, I'm about to watch opening game

[@CoffeeBreakHQ]

And today, October 25th 2020, after 17 years, the Miami Marlins are back in the MLB postseason!

[@noahcricket]

September 21st

[@JWex-jy7sk]

Who’s here after the Marlins just ended the 17 year playoff drought?

[@dario110011]

I am! Let's go for the gold! What a run.

[@andrewlarson7]

As a Cubs fan I’m having nightmares about the Steve Bartman game. If we don’t win the world series I hope you guys do. Make it 3/3!

[@MeargleSchmeargle]

I'm here after remembering my Braves ended that undefeated postseason streak schtick.

[@JWex-jy7sk]

@@MeargleSchmeargle Okay we get it! 😂

[@SFK360]

As a Mariners fan, it will never fail to depress me that the unbelievably inept Marlins (who have only been around since 1993) have won two World Series, while Seattle (who has been around since freaking '77) have never even APPEARED in one. I'm sure they'll find their way onto this series at some point...

[@thedominatior39]

Shows how good the AL is think about it when the Marlins where good in the 90s the Yankees where always better even now how they have they get close to the playoffs but never get threw

[@williamcook906]

James Jackson its because of our trash management, why let go of cano and Cruz ??

[@FBrezzy6694]

Crazy cause living in Ft. Lauderdale, they treat Mr. Huzinga like royalty and talk about him in the highest regards. Seems like a slime ball to me 🤔

[@zrockquake7128]

It’s almost like you can get away with anything if you’re rich or something...

[@lonelychameleon3595]

Not the first time Floridians worshipped a scumbag

[@DragonDDT]

Huizenga did a lot for local hospitals, but make no mistake: The guy was a ruthless businessman.

[@lewalcindor9356]

Well Blockbuster video was pretty awesome back in the day so.........

[@dillonandrew768]

Probably the hockey fans version of it, he owned the panthers too but he never did anything with them either unless you count 96

[@LifeWitJohn51]

This is a great series. Thank you all for doing this. Keep them coming.

[@richardlorith8256]

This perfectly describes life as a Marlins fan, great moments followed by bitter disappointment and long periods of bad baseball

[@Furetchen]

Worst ERA in a sea-level NL team since 1954 is one hell of a specific stat.

[@FluentInfluence]

Parrhesia 😂

[@SmoothCriminal12]

How about the collapse of the Mariners after 2001, that'd be a good one as well.

[@JonathanRod]

How about the collapse of the organization since 2006 :)

[@tripleoo0]

To be honest, it wasn't much of a collapse. That 2001 team completely came out of nowhere, and the team still won 93 games in '02 and '03 (somehow missing the playoffs both times). The wheels fell off the cart in '04, but by then, Edgar Martinez had retired, and with the anchor of the team and one of Seattle's most mythic sports legends gone, everyone else fell away, too. Bret Boone got caught in the PED scandal of the early 2000s, to no one's surprise, John Olerud played one more year in 2004 before hanging up the glove with catcher Dan Wilson gone the year before, Mike Cameron and Freddy Garcia both left for greener pastures, and new GM Bill Bavasi was way in over his head, trying to supplement the quickly decaying 25-man roster with veterans at the cost of the team's future. So, yeah, those early-2000s Mariners' teams didn't really collapse. They got old and moved on, and the GM refused to go gently into that good night, postponing a rebuild until the next GM could strip the farm even further. It's been 15 years, but the Mariners are finally attempting to build a healthy organization from the bottom up.

[@AJ_savage16]

@@tripleoo0 dont forget they made the ALCS in 2000 when they lost to the yankees in 6

[@TheVP_SSBU]

Good call.

[@michaeljohng4029]

Mariners and Marlins my fav teams....now its the Yankees

[@tollboothjason]

There may not be another team in American sports that treats their team this badly after winning championships. Two of them in six years. No wonder the Marlins have so few fans.

[@bizzybone415]

Great video. I remember these 2 World Series Marlins teams. They beat my Giants on both occasions.

[@SlugCult718]

The title of this video can perfectly sum up why baseball is such an amazing sport.

[@vikelhombre3107]

Marlins’ logic be like: Let’s trade an MVP caliber 1B, a 2x 50-HR MVP, and the best catcher in the league in the same 15-year span

[@tono_egg]

yelich too

[@Adam12R]

Indians traded Cy Young winners in back to back seasons the year after they won the award with CC and Cliff Lee. At least the Marlins got to celebrate twice.

[@SolidSnake684]

This video's editing is fantastic. Also, more baseball please!

[@dannyzep92]

Gotta feel bad for marlins fans in the years after the world series wins, the team has become a laughing stock and what appears to just be a way for owners to launder money

[@MrSayWhatIThink23]

As a Marlins fan it’s pretty embarrassing

[@halvil9299]

@@MrSayWhatIThink23 well you could be a Tampa Bay fan or a Padres fan or Seattle fan or maybe a Cincinnati Reds fan or a Pirates fan trust me there's a lot worst teams out there in the MLB.

[@MrSayWhatIThink23]

Hal Vil both can be true, the Marlins have still been an embarrassment for a number of years and I’m not optimistic for the future

[@matthewcepeda622]

Young & Ambitious I’m optimistic with Brian Anderson to say the least

[@alejbr4]

i feel bad for florida baseball, there are other bad teams, but they try.....dumbs gms...but try....rays and marlins are all lets make money.

[@joaquinnieto4237]

Collapse suggestions: 2010s Detroit Tigers, 2008 Phillies, Texas Rangers winning back to back ALCS, 1998 Padres, 2007 Rockies, 2005 White Sox

[@JT-91]

Cubs fan here. ever since that game fans in catching distance have mostly held up reaching for it.

[@Zembricki14]

ottawa senators after chris kunitz game 7 game winner

[@aaronheeter5364]

KUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNITZ

[@alexlewis2184]

As a Pens fan, that may have been my favorite moment of that season, I’m putting it over winning the Cup, it was an amazing moment

[@thekandycinema3193]

@@alexlewis2184 As a Senators fan, that was my least favourite moment in all of hockey.

[@ckendall67]

- It'll continue if Colorado wins the lottery with Ottawa's original 1st round pick LOL

[@fireforce9706]

@Hans Oh mann, poor Sens fans if that's true. Haha

[@kirkland0074]

Marlins are undefeated in playoff history batting a thousand, hopefully Derrick Jeter can get us there again.

[@lumar90]

Derek Jeter*

[@robertschmidt4239]

For a team to have one-year wonders is rear... for a team to have TWO one-year wonders in a span of seven years is ridiculous!

[@zenvost2]

You know god has a sick sense of humor when the marlins win two WSs in the same timespan the mariners go from having junior arod edgar and randy, to completely rebuilding with the legendary 2001 team (that stayed mostly the same through '03), and *neither* of those were somehow good enough to make it past the ALCS.

[@bosskey7212]

After the 2003 season, everyone knew owner Jeff Loria was never going to pay to keep that team together. Just a year earlier he gutted the Expos before leaving to buy the Marlins. Loria only spent money when he thought it would benefit him like getting a new stadium publicly funded. It's sad to know that ultimately just because someone has a lot of money they can just destroy what was a promising franchise

[@Blackout.1644]

Reminds me of that Indians owner in the movie Major League

[@philly_sports1558]

My Phillies have been around since 1883 and we have only won the World Series twice despite all the iconic players and teams we have had over the years. The Marlins have only made the postseason twice in their 26 seasons as a franchise and yet, they somehow have as many World Series rings as us. Go figure.

[@razkable]

dolphins and heat own your franchises in terms of titles as well ….philly has 5 titles between their major 3 teams since hockey isn't that big with way more history and the miami teams combined have 7 in way less time for 2 of their teams in the heat and marlins lol....

[@geebee6010]

Try being a Pirates fan it’s even more degrading. I still think Philadelphia should’ve kept the Athletics.

[@geebee6010]

I started protesting with my money

[@e2live]

@@geebee6010 good job. These greedy owners are what's holding back alot of talented teams reaching their peak. I remember the Mccutchen Pirates being really good. If only they made the trade or free agent pick up that pushed them over the top. See how the astros got verlander, the cubs got Chapman, The royals got Johnny cueto, the redsox got J.D. Martinez. What could have been.

[@boogitybear2283]

Wow! So in 1980, they had a 97 year drought that nobody talks about!?

[@Redshirt434]

And this is why I haven't been to a Marlins game since 2005.

[@halvil9299]

Well that's because you're a fuckin loser, there are much worse MLB teams and they still have a great fan base stop being a crybaby.

[@DelliriiuM]

That was a good game

[@Seek147.]

Why wouldnt u go to a game in 2015 when they had a solid team

[@larsfinlay7325]

gotta go see the fish statue bro

[@Redshirt434]

@@larsfinlay7325 I thought they took it down for this season.

[@dylanwebster8099]

My dude does the multiple championships thing in 1993 leaving out my Jay's who won in 1992 and 1993, harsh.

[@lewalcindor9356]

If only the Marlins began play in 92 instead of seeing 93, lol

[@cheapseats12]

Breaking News: Marlins win 2020 WS by accident again

[@kylestrohm5501]

Ttt

[@rodgertherover]

There has never been a more perfect title to a video.

[@agentcalifornia3587]

Who else is rewatching this during the 2020 postseason?

[@shaneg4383]

Don’t forget Dontrelle dude was electric

[@THERSC216]

Still pissed at the Marlins and Jose Mesa for 1997-Signed NE Ohio. As far as Huizenga, he got served by Blockbuster Video imploding.

[@closethockeyfan5284]

I knew I'd find Jose Mesa here if I dug deep enough. Man, he ALWAYS faded from August through October at some point. Remarkably unreliable closer.

[@THERSC216]

@@closethockeyfan5284 he is hated in NE Ohio alongside Art Modell

[@VLE-Grimace]

I love it when big market teams in any sport that are located in cities like New York, Los Angeles, Miami, etc. Are just a complete disaster. It makes my heart all warm and fuzzy

[@macnsteez3938]

Easily one of my favourite sports videos on YT, and im not really a baseball fan. The historically unprecedented playoff success (in amongst absolutely terrible play in most of their other seasons) makes them such a fascinating team. Struck lightning twice, essentially. I cant imagine too many fans remain after the last 20 years, but boy they mustve had fun in that first decade 😂 Great great work guys, i think ive watched this at least once a year since it was released lol 👏

[@mianjingzheng6182]

2020 might be 3rd time a charm for Miami Marlins.

[@KofieWhy]

JUAN PIERRE AND LUIS CASTILLO FOREVERRRRRRRRRR

[@hectorgutierrez5240]

Kofie Why? Juan pierre is one of my favorite marlins along with the D Train!

[@Truschoolsports]

the best 1-2 punch, we talking like 90+ steals and like 200+ runs combined

[@alexrubenstein3856]

you're in luck, he'll be taking the mound @great american ball park tmrw at 4

[@eltonrojas4028]

And that defense at 2nd and short stop of Luis Castillo and Alex Gonzalez op 😁

[@DelliriiuM]

Hell yes

[@Mvproszn]

The Miami Marlins have the worst win percentage of any MLB franchise yet they have the best win percentage in the playoffs of any MLB franchise.

[@insanity7579]

That’s gonna crumble soon

[@bjchit]

An interesting fact about that '03 team: they lost a game to the Boston Red Sox 25-8, where their first two pitchers didn't even record an out, Johnny Damon had three hits in one inning (and was a homer shy of hitting for the cycle in that inning), and every player for the Sox either scored or drove in a run.

[@kendrew26]

I’ve been waiting for someone to make a video like this

[@nathanrobinson1099]

Yeah, I'm going out and saying it, I always hated the Marlins as an organization-- this video validates how I feel. I hate the way they operate, I hate their uniforms, I hate their new stadium, their old stadium. They're just a garbage organization. As a organization they've been an embarrassment to baseball. Their teams (read: players/managers) have been outstanding in certain periods. They operate like an EFLC team that doesn't need to be one.

[@razkable]

the miami marlins miami panthers miami dolphins and the u basketball has been a joke since the 90's but hey we have the heat and the u football and thats all that matters ..

[@BigBlack81]

Thank you for this comment. Sums up my entire opinion of the Marlins since their inception.

[@kingtide69]

Probably some salty Indians fan

[@cpfishfan14]

@@razkable The marlins, panthers, and dolphins all had Wayne Huizenga as owner.

[@Mikey41701]

Following the Stanton and Yelich trades, we need part 2

[@closethockeyfan5284]

That's still part of this. They've not achieved anything notable as a team since.

[@cpfishfan14]

That ship began to sank when Jose Fernandez died.

[@staidenofanarchy]

As a Cubs fan, I can't say I feel bad for them lol Also you guys should rewind Christian Laettner's shot. I'll annoy you guys with this since the Olympics isn't gonna happen. Great vid again!

[@brandonalmendares1642]

feel bad for the fans? why not. As a Marlins fan, It's not the Marlins fault your team is a choke artist while having one of the largest markets for more than 100 years lmao was happy to see you guys FINALLY get a ring tho.

[@staidenofanarchy]

@@brandonalmendares1642 My guy, I wasn't being serious lol. Thanks for being happy for us, hopefully Jeter can pull the Marlins out of the muck soon.

[@brandonalmendares1642]

@@staidenofanarchy that's what's up, i read you wrong. i hope the best for your team truly, hopefully it will be another competitive year in baseball.. most teams looking like fighters!

[@MichaelKolesarKoleslaw]

@@brandonalmendares1642 Looks like Philadelphia is gonna be the team to hate this year!

[@brandonalmendares1642]

@@MichaelKolesarKoleslaw they're as unproven as the Marlins tbh, they just have flashier names. we'll see who performs! should be fun.

[@33moneyball]

Dombrowski is a master at going all in, winning a title, and ruining a franchise in the process.

[@LudaChez]

This season they lost 100 games again but showed us glimpses of the future. In 2020 they should go about 72-90 and continue to spread hope. Then in 2021 they will shock people by spending money to help their new young core and actually compete .and they will be in a position to compete for several years. Only problem is the Braves are in the same position. Set to be good for at least the next four seasons.