How the New Testament Was CREATED | Bart Ehrman and James Tabor

Title: Unveiling the Origins: How the New Testament Was Created with Bart Ehrman and James Tabor | MythvisionTV
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Bart's new course "The Scribal Corruption of Scripture: How The Bible Was Changed And How Readers May Never Know," delves into the heart of one of the most crucial questions for those interested in the Christian religion: How can we be sure we have the original writings of the New Testament?
Contents:
00:00:00 - The Scribal Corruption of Scripture
00:15:00 - Understanding Manuscript Evidence
01:05:24 - New Covenanters Before Jesus
01:22:24 - Dead Sea Scrolls As New Testament Basis
02:04:24 - Audience Questions
📜 Join us for a riveting exploration into the fascinating world of biblical scholarship as MythvisionTV presents an exclusive interview with two renowned scholars, Bart Ehrman and James Tabor. In this enlightening discussion, these distinguished experts shed light on the intriguing journey of how the New Testament came into existence.
🔍 Delve into the historical and textual complexities that surrounded the formation of the New Testament, and discover the wealth of insights these scholars bring to the table. Bart Ehrman, known for his groundbreaking work in New Testament studies, and James Tabor, a leading expert in early Christianity, share their expertise and perspectives in this thought-provoking conversation.
📚 Learn about the challenges, debates, and controversies that emerged during the compilation and canonization of the New Testament, and gain a deeper understanding of the diverse texts that were considered for inclusion.
🧐 Whether you're a scholar, a student of theology, or simply someone curious about the origins of the Christian scriptures, this interview offers a unique opportunity to grasp the intricacies of the New Testament's creation.
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Bart Ehrman: A leading New Testament scholar and author.
James Tabor: A distinguished historian of early Christianity.
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Contents: 00:00:00 - The Scribal Corruption of Scripture 00:15:00 - Understanding Manuscript Evidence 01:05:24 - New Covenanters Before Jesus 01:22:24 - Dead Sea Scrolls As New Testament Basis 02:04:24 - Audience Questions

[@TwinMarathon]

I really enjoy Dr Erhman…would love to ask him a couple of questions concerning the eastern manuscripts during the 2nd century

[@mistersilly9012]

this video is an omnibus collection of pieces that (all or some?) appear in shorter mythvision videos. for example the first hour is "Your Bible Is Corrupted". don't get me wrong ... this is an enlightening listen and really appreciated. but when it comes to collating what i know and where i heard it, it's an unwieldy size to deal with. it would be great if you listed the YT posts where pieces of this appear in standalone form. i think for people who argue about these topics, it's useful to be able to say "this issue is discussed HERE", without referring to more material than relates to the immediate issue

[@deborahjordan8807]

😊

[@jesusdeity2010]

Are you there for the likes or for truth? Here's unadulterated truth: 1) Gen 1:27. "Let us make man according to our image and likeness and let them have authority....": 2) Gen 3: Mankind fell. The image and likeness of God in man got lost. That's the mess this world is in. Gen 3. But...: 3) As Christ, God returns the divine life of the ages back to you-manity. For free, because of love, purpose, destiny. "I have come to give YOU Zoë (divine) life in abundance. It pleases the Father to give YOU the Kingdom. Freely I give you My Kingdom. Heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demons, freely i give, freely share. I WILL send Holy Soirit, He WILL be IN you, guide you into truth and give you explosive power. You will understand that the Father is in Me and I am in you." John 14-17. "Those that receive this abundance of grace, this free gift of righteousness will walk in Zoë/divine life" Rom 5:17. How do we receive? We are mesmerized by what we see and welcome Holy Spirit to change us in to Christlikeness. 2 Cor 3:18, Col 3:10. The Gospel: a restoration of a man/woman, back to the image of God. Changed by His very own Spirit working in you. Changing you from the inside out. An outpouring from within you. So wherever you are in your life, you have great purpose in life. Walking in the same divine unselfish love and glory/healing power as Christ. Growing in to Him in all things. Key-understanding: Christ, as the last Adam, represents all of humanity again in completeness. So, you too!! In Him you already are completed! Co-crusified, co-raised, co-seated (Ef 2:4-6), transferred, made perfect (Col 1:13, 1:22, 2:8-10) You start where He finished: "You and I are one. He who meets you meets Me. The Father is in Me and I am in you". "We grow into Him in all things to the fullness of God". What a God, what a love. He came full circle. Let's love on someone today. ❤️🎁🎊💪🔥💃🕺

[@FrancisJules-ln3kd]

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[@26beegee]

Mythvision has given me a community I feel more connection with than any church I attended in almost 60 years as a believer.

[@thecentralscrutinizerr]

You see the world in a whole new light when you understand that Religion's purpose is the control of populations. It's intent is to influence people to behave a certain way to make the warlords dictates ruling over them easier to do. The promise is an afterlife of bliss, but they must do as the deity commands - genocide? No problem. Infanticide? No problem. Mass murders? No problem. Whatever the deity commands. And who says what the deity commands? Why, the Priests of the Religion. They'll tell you what the deity commands. It's a sick, sick, world. The lies, the mass murders, the wars ... I'm done with them.

[@davidburcar7620]

Thanks guys. You guys found me as I was asleep, literally, now I am awake. I fell asleep with KZbin on awhile ago. I was dreaming of meeting a group of people and we broke into exchanging favorite Biblical verses and Books. Suddenly I woke up and here I am. A friend of mine took me to the Jesus Movement movie earlier this year. I tried to find an old poster I bought in the 70's from the Jesus People to give to her, as a gift, but could not find it. I'm a Matthew guy Chapter 24. I'm here now. Thanks again!

[@cshe92]

The Skyrim music really threw me off for a minute because I listen to it every day as ambient noise when I work haha

[@sanguinesoulful]

Misquoting Jesus was the final nail in the coffin of my deconstruction. I don't know why, and I can't really defend it, but I (stupidly? Naively?) just ASSUMED (since so many people over thousands of years!) based thier entire lives and ETERNITY on this book, that we had a good, reliable original. I was very disappoint. 😐

[@t3br00k35]

Where next?

[@liabeachy]

I found Barts podcasts 5 years ago after trauma and almost dying I was a very Christian woman and I literally defended my faith to a Muslim who tried to destroy my soul but I prayed an prayed but I still ended up in ICU . Now I’m finding I accept they I can never feel the same which was naive but I had beautiful spiritual experiences which I can’t deny for out of this world , cognitive dissonance on steroids happened. I choose to believe in spirit but not religious just knowing there is a higher power but none of it is religion . It’s liberating at times .

[@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit]

Then you didn't have much faith to begin with. Good job, you're free! Now go live in sin without apology. Go get em, tiger

[@t3br00k35]

@@Special_Tactics_Force_Unitdeath is the end

[@FS-eh4dj]

Why would anyone worship a Jewish rabbi named Jesus is beyond me except brainwashing and human are generally sheep’s this applies to all religions but when it comes to Christianity it’s cray from worshipping a Jewish man to confusion in doctrine such as the trinity and infighting between Christians over the interpretation of the trinity to the idea of Paul vs Jesus , did Paul open the doors of Jesus to non Jews etc .

[@jseaman256]

i've been watching lots of Bart Ehrman and James Tabor. What listeners like me really appreciate is getting to Truth no matter where it leads and not taking the New Testament at face value which so many people do.

[@user-om2os5yr6i]

Maybe listen to people up on current fact-based scholarship, instead. Ehrman and Tabor still parrot loads of half-baked apologetica.

[@josiahbradley1638]

Can you suggest any names of people that are currently up-to-date on “fact based research” ?

[@user-om2os5yr6i]

@@josiahbradley1638 Richard Carrier keeps lists of such scholars. Nobody is up on everything, so you need different lists for different topics.

[@ring-tone278]

For none is justified by works save by Grace alone. Neither David, nor Job, nor Ezekiel, or is it Abraham. All are saved by Grace alone for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

[@ring-tone278]

Know the Truth and the Truth shall set you Free and whom the son sets free is free indeed. Free to love one another, as I have loved you and by this the world shall know that you are my disciple...No other name given unto men by which we must be saved but by the Name of Jesus.

[@attitudeblack5662]

From a Muslim to you, thank you for such discussions. I think it is very important that people understand the roots of whatever religion that they follow. This is extremely knowledgeable and a great learning experience

[@gabesmokeymartatom]

Too bad that it’s flawed and erroneous

[@attitudeblack5662]

@@gabesmokeymartatom I am just appreciating the knowledge

[@yassasloan7308]

Islam originated from our religion Judaism... there are clues to it in the Qur'an such as Islam being the final iteration of Allah's approved religion... btw us real Jews (not the European Jews) pray almost exactly as the Muslims do including taking shoes off, holding hands before the heart , bowing at the waist, then bowing to the ground forehead and tip of nose. Then when one rises, you say Baruch Hasham Adonai Allahainu as one rises from sajdah similar like the Muslims do

[@attitudeblack5662]

@@yassasloan7308 Your religion Judiasm? Dude! Judaism didn't even exist at the time of Moses while Islam did while Muhammad was still alive. Moses wasn't a Jew he was a Hebrew and so was Abraham not a Jew.

[@yassasloan7308]

@@attitudeblack5662 okay??? what's your point?

[@EinarGrondal]

I really had fun listening to Dr. Tabor get sneaky and tantalizing viewers, trying not to give up what's in his course. 😂🎉

[@theobolt250]

This podcast is what I woke up to this morning. Straight away totally alert! 😁 Ahh, the good stuff.

[@haze1123]

Why the background music? It's maddening.

[@Shells67]

Now i understand why my former Pastor said that many evangelical Bible scholars leave Christianity once they attend Bible College or Seminary.

[@BigSnipp]

Please stop making so many awesome videos. I can't watch them all. There's only so many hours in the day. lol

[@erpthompsonqueen9130]

Thank you, again. Watching from Alaska.

[@janlmc9048]

How refreshing and stimulating to listen to such knowledgeable conversation. I am definitely hooked on this channel.

[@user-hm7hz8uc9c]

Born into a High Church Episcopalian and Lutheran family who weren't particularly religious, I was left to explore my own religious path. Not only that, but my grandmother, I suspect, was an agnostic. At 17 I met a young man reminiscent of Sal Mineo. A Sicilian with relatives in the La Cosa Nostra and obviously a Catholic, it was too romantic for me to pass up. Besides, my father had died when I was seven and Mom was always worried about my younger brother getting into trouble. I became almost invisible at home and here was this vibrant loud very loving family who welcomed me, a girl of German and various European blood, with open arms. The Cathedrals were beautiful, the ritual mesmerizing, and I had to join to marry this young man. So I did. Catechism then eventually baptism with his aunt and uncle as my sponsors later, we were married where I agreed to raise the children as Catholics. Two years and two children later we divorced despite not getting dispensation from the Pope, but I remained closely connected to the family. He was ceremoniously kicked out, dead, to the family. Yes, they do that and, yes, it happened with a spit at his feet but no kiss, a slap instead. In a bowling alley located in the Little Italy of my city, I spent every week as score keeper with my former mother-in-law, her sisters, one my godmother, and other women on their team. Then I met the La Cosa Nostra member of the family in that same bowling alley. He was something of a respected embarrassment to the family. I continued to go to mass sporadically. Then a priest, in his sermon, told us who to vote for and said voting for his opponent would be a menial sin and I began to rethink religion. Questions, discussions, and several debates later, I left the church altogether. The kids still went with their grandparents. In advertising, I did a lot of research and met lots of people, one of whom was a White Witch who taught at the college here. I found her as fascinating as I did THE CHURCH. She took me to a ritual in a forest where everyone was robed, faces hidden within hoods, and sincere about their connection to the "powers of nature." The mayor of our city was there too as a participant. Surprise. The head-witch taught me about their beliefs which were actually quite lovely. The head-witch read the tarot cards, of course, for me. We didn't remain friends because I saw too much similarity between the belief in unseen magic, one on the planet with the one in the sky. From there, I married again then divorced and married my attorney, a Jewish corporate litigator. Judaism became an interest. His family included me in a Seder reading at dinner. So, I very briefly studied the religion, realizing quickly that it was more of a culture than a religion. We divorced. My religious journey after that was non-participatory research instead of indoctrination. A much longer story made short later, I discovered Atheism and have been one for more years than I want to say. However, I do not declare there is no god, any god, because there's no way to prove that, right? I use Matt Dillihunty's explanation: "I don't know if there's a god or not. I have no good reason to believe in a god." Today, I study Christianity only because of the Christian Nationalism Movement which, like the Women's Movement, I have become something of a warrior for the latter, a warrior against for the Christian Nationalism movement. Listening to this broadcast, I have gathered so many more weapons. Thank you, not only for confirming my Atheism, but for confirming my gut feeling that it's all about the fear of death, control, campaign fodder, and today, a very profitable business. I have so many questions for you guys. Sitting down with you would be hazardous for my health since it would involve too many pizzas, too much wine, and several days without sleep, not to mention carpal tunnel from the notetaking.

[@MarthaEllen88]

Very grateful to you Derek and Prof Tabor. Wow. Dead sea scrolls as new testament around 1:50. Amazing precursor stuff to the NT and Jesus....

[@James-ll3jb]

The work of Eisenman that Ehrman is trying to take credit for

[@Isaac5123]

Whats your problem?​@@James-ll3jb

[@timcarbone007]

Love the podcast. Amazing work

[@trina2100]

Lol I definitely said "what is Derek doing?" when I saw the fireworks on Dr. Tabor. That was great and I'm glad ya'll left that in. The show itself has been wonderful so thanks Derek for all you do and many thanks to the scholars as well.

[@dr.payneteaches2842]

You are two of my favorite people, because even when I question your interpretations of the facts, I never cease to be impressed by your commitment to those same facts. Please never stop being your highly enlightening selves.

[@erpthompsonqueen9130]

Thank you. Watching and Listening and Hearing from Alaska. 👍

[@darapdiengdoh2179]

I wish you also made a video on How the old testament was created .

[@user-om2os5yr6i]

That was just cut'n'paste.

[@adyorvanderlei4767]

They handpicked ancient books that were considered holy. They put together the ones that involved the God of Abraham. They intentionally left out books that were more mystical

[@bradlyclark8943]

He does

[@ring-tone278]

Know the Truth and the Truth shall set you Free and whom the son sets free is free indeed. Free to love one another, as I have loved you and by this the world shall know that you are my disciple...No other name given unto men by which we must be saved but by the Name of Jesus.

[@vikingdemonpr]

Check his videos with Russell Gmirkin on how the OT was made during the Hellenistic period

[@litteralfitness6113]

Bart has got to have a photographic memory. I'm jealous 😄

[@jamiefaucett7216]

I love the questions about Marcion / Luke ... Good stuff

[@jseaman256]

Christian listeners believe that the Bible is inspired/inerrant and that you must abide by the verse 'lean not on your own understanding' and so critical thinking is thrown out the window.

[@chicpotpie3494]

What a way to get the wool pulled over your eyes. I much prefer to have my wool sheered so I can see better

[@tylenstark2394]

Correcto!!!

[@lisamarriott4732]

If God wanted to give us a written manual for life, I'm sure he would of made it more simpler if he cared about us at all. The arguments and conflict this book has caused is proof in itself that it is not a holy book. It might be full of holes though. Like everything else in this world, there will always be power crazy people who will corrupt and change something to use to fit their own agenda. God is within us. Worship God not an inanimate object, a book that was put together by Romans to control it's massive empire. When you drive a car you don't need to keep reading the manual. We've had the Bible for nearly 2000years. We all know what it says and we can let go of the crutch and can live our lives as spiritually evolved beings. Blind faith is a primitive mindset, take off the blindfold and you'll see God everywhere and in everything.

[@PeloquinDavid]

It's not ALL Christians (by any means!) who buy into the idea that every jot and tittle of the Bible is inerrant truth. It's the small and extreme subset who tend to dominate public discourse in one country (the US) but who even there probably don't represent a majority of those who self-identify as "Christian".

[@lisamarriott4732]

@bfrediani typical, you care more about a capital letter than what I am saying. How ignorant

[@karenbehymer3634]

I wonder why we continue looking to the Middle East for our religious truth, rather than seeking spiritual truths from the world's other regions which our ancient ancestors came from?

[@johnb8854]

*The Truth is NOT in humans as their GENOME Contains DOUBLE LOGIC, adversely affecting ALL human functions, including Thought and Reason...*

[@misscameroon8062]

because the christian sect of the jewish religion got to morph through a symbiosis with a Greco-roman religions and civilization and eventually ,through few centuries' of bloody battles won the public arena discourse,but hopefully, it seems ,we are beginning to see cracks in this metastructure and finally might arrive at truer and better view of reality.The time isaboutright to get rid of old tales and create some new gospels for our times.

[@arturomartinez9785]

I heard a long time ago that the Thora has been modified according to the needs of their fallowers. is that true ?

[@rmader1997]

Was the trinity verse that is not supposed to be in the Protestant Bibles, is it found in the Volgate Bible, or Duoy/Reims? When were these texts changed?

[@allanwilliams2079]

@5:20, when professor Ehrman says, "the doctrine of the trinity",in relation to "1 John 5:7", he is misrepresenting the verse. The correct representation of this verse is "the witness from heaven". 1 John 5:7,9 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. [God is in heaven: the witness is given by him.] [9] If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. ● Now, professor Ehrman does not only get how he represents the verse wrong, he also gets the number of times that the content of the verse is stated in the new testament. [He has sought to create some hedges around himself by using the phrase "explicit statement". However, it is not just the the exact wording of the verse that matters: it is the understanding of what is conveyed by the wording of this verse.] The verse says, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit are one. (Replacing "word" with Jesus) The Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are one. ● Here what is stated in "1John is condensed in John 10:30. John 10:30 I and my Father are one ● A proper reading of the books of the gospels reveals that: ● Matthew 3:16,17, tell us what "1 John 5:7", tells us. Matthew 3:16-17 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: [17] And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. ● Mark 1:9,10,11 , tell us what "1 John 5:7" tells us. Mark 1:9-11 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. [10] And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: [11] And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. ● Luke 3:21,22 , tell us what "1 John 5:7" tells us. Luke 3:21-22 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, [22] And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. ● John 1:32,33 , tell us what "1 John 5:7" tells us. John 1:32-33 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. [33] And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. Note: [The Spirit can only "descend" upon someone "bodily" and "remain" on them if they and the Spirit are one.] ●● Here is shown four different witnesses that give the same witness, as "1 John 5:7" , which is; the Father, the Word/Jesus, and the Holy Spirit/Ghost are one. The Trinitarians are wrong with their representation of God. The Bible is not wrong with its information about God. Professor Bart D Ehrman is wrong about what he has stated concerning the Bible. 1 John 5:7 is supported as being correct and as belonging in the Bible.

[@littleredpixie3116]

I've just recently came across Dr Tabor and am trying to find out exactly how he views the New Testament. Does he believe it's accurate enough to study or should it be viewed with skepticism? Obviously, I've always read it right alongside the Tanakh. I'm a believer, but do not call myself a "Christian". I follow the laws of Torah and worship as closely as possible to the way taught by the Tanakh (as much is allowed without a Temple or being "in the land"😊).

[@bbl2555]

Isn’t Tanakh is also made up, its very clear when you read Tanakh that losers had wrote for their survival, the books give feeling that poor Vanuerable group of people on the name of Yahweh keep threatening the powerful kings, Even this group of people was small in number, reading Tanakh is Evident that low corrupt morals was excerise by them, their only regret was that they were not powerful, so the invent the stories like Dreams of Joseph and his dreams comes true and he than became powerful kinsman of king, treatment of slave too was not different from non Jews people, Ruben Rape of slave mother Bilhah is clear example of that but same people anhilate when Dinah Rape happens, so double standards where seen, their are many examples, to prove that this group people was playing with others on base of dreams and false claimes of talking to God.

[@Mysticpaw]

Texts dont need to be accurate in order to study them (depends ofcourse what you mean by studying. There are people who study fiction as well) and everything should be viewed with skepticism.

[@duncg2524]

Listening to something this interesting with Skyrim music in the background is actually proof that God exists.

[@handsdowndrumming9261]

Nice new logo! Can’t wait to dive in, I have faith this will be a good episode 😂

[@raysalmon6566]

John wrote his Gospels in very simple text, and it is not excellent Greek. What is difficult is the profound theology that he expressed simply. John wrote his epistles and Revelation much later. It is no uncommon for writing styles, even vocabulary, to change as a person ages. That does not mean John stopped being John. The First Counsel of Nicaea in 325 would not have accepted John's woks if they were not apostolic.,,,, Daniel Greer

[@richardmindemann6935]

Most biblical scholars, I think, believe that the author of the Gospel of John is not the same person as John of Patmos, the author of Revelation. There is evidence for both views, however.

[@francescamaria444]

Thank you for these great videos you do!!!

[@selmateacher7]

Is the verse from Romans 9:11-12 found in the oldest manuscripts?

[@moodyrick8503]

*Christianity Vs. Christianity ;* I'd love to see a book on the history of Christianities prosecution of itself and the believers that had different interpretations of the Bible. The many & varied consequences of disagreeing with the Christian "status quo" (popular version) throughout it's history.

[@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking]

_Well it's Istanbul, not Constantinople..._

[@moodyrick8503]

@@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking Where & when did I mention anything about Constantinople or Istanbul ? (odd) BTW ; Constantinople first, Istanbul, later after the Turkish Muslims conquered the city.

[@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking]

@@moodyrick8503I thought you'd get the connection. Christians sacked Constantinople during a Crusade...weakening it permanently. A major step towards Muslim conquest. You wanted to know about Christian vs Christian infighting and consequence...no better example.

[@moodyrick8503]

@@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking Yes indeed. Your first comment lacked specifics, so I did not catch the reference, but thanks for the clarification. Much appreciated.

[@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking]

@@moodyrick8503 :) Yeah i shoulda elaborated!

[@ellie698]

Great channel, what a find! New subscriber here 🤚🏼

[@jamespasuri]

2 Timothy 2:21-24 CEV That's also how it is with people. The ones who stop doing evil and make themselves pure will become special. Their lives will be holy and pleasing to their Master, and they will be able to do all kinds of good deeds. [22] Run from temptations that capture young people. Always do the right thing. Be faithful, loving, and easy to get along with. Worship with people whose hearts are pure. [23] Stay away from stupid and senseless arguments. These only lead to trouble, [24] and God's servants must not be troublemakers. They must be kind to everyone, and they must be good teachers and very patient. I don't know that were not the Gospel Teaching!

[@ericalewis9047]

I wish the course was free so i could share it. So many people believe it could not be changed.

[@hussienocs3359]

I’m very impressed with the presentation. I have a question which complicated my belief and filled with suspect is the type of Christian bible, and why is difference come to happen? It led me to expect that there are a number of “God” are equal with the books.

[@cindyhawkins6238]

Each version is interpreting the original written language into English. For hundreds of years the King James Version (because it was authorized to be translated into English by King James) was considered the most accurate interpretation. But English is not spoken as it was back in 1611, so now others have interpreted the original script into language that is more easily understood by modern English speakers. And scholars studying the original writings have slight changes in the meaning of words into our modern language. So, although different versions, they are very similar in meaning.

[@billcook4768]

I read the video title as “How the New Testament was Created by Burt Ehrman”

[@archadeinteriors]

The reason Peter was the rock on which the church was built was simply because the authenticity and sincerity of his faith in and love of the lord, that is, in spite of his very failure and obvious weakness from an external vantage; yet the Lord saw the power, hence the rock, of Peter's character, not the simplicity of a fisherman, or the failure or faltering of faith that was so infamous to all

[@nostalja77]

Ehrman s so wrong about Trinity in NT, there are many mentions of Holy Spirit, Rom 15 13, Luke 3 22, 1Cor 6 19, Acts 2 38, Acts 1 8, John 14 26, Matt 12 31,32, John 14 17 and more. Also in Old Testament.

[@richardcaves3601]

If you really want to know what scholars in the Roman Empire thought of Christianity, read a Greek scholar, Celes, who wrote a manuscript in 132CE titled " Egyptian and other Eastern Mystery Religions". It tells us of his research into Joshua Ben Pentara/Josep - known to us as Jesus Christ. The early Christian church hated it so much that after the Council of Nicea, they tried to destroy all copies. Few remain, and biblical scholars even today try to rubbish it, even though they can't refute it.

[@James-wv3hx]

If God is all knowing, then he must have knowingly set Jesus up to be murdered? And if God is so fragile as to die on a cross, then how could he survive in the inhospital area of outer space? Of course it all sounds Ludacris to me. Former Catholic Priest Alan Watts claimes that Everybody and Everything Is God in his lecture - On Being God.

[@Usernamebreh]

Jesus himself knew he was going to die for the world. whats your point?

[@James-wv3hx]

@@Usernamebreh That was a lie. He told everyone that he would resurrect because he was God! So is he dead?

[@Usernamebreh]

@@James-wv3hx he literally predicts his own death. It's in the bible. and no, God is not dead. Only his flesh died on the cross, through the Shead of his blood he formed a new covenant. that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

[@James-wv3hx]

@@Usernamebreh what's the point of it. God hates the people that he creates. He murdered millions in the flood. He commands different tribes to murder all of the men woman and children of other tribes. To smash the babies brains against the rocks until rivers of blood flowed through the streets. But to keep the young virgin girls as sex slaves. Why would any artist or anything with a brain create things that it hates? Mark Twain said that religion started when the first con man met the first fool. Like l said, it was a lie that he gave his son. You just said that he's not dead!

[@critter5248]

youre forgetting that Jesus had a higher midichlorian count than anyone had expected

[@Texas_Blues]

"They didn't change the Torah ....." A-hem. They did. Compare the Leningrad Codex to the Septuagint and the Dead Sea Scrolls. I'm beginning to think Bart is an amateur.

[@erevhaqets7613]

But doesnt the petra/petros wordplay only work in greek? Jesus didnt speak greek, he spoke aramaic. If the wordplay doesnt work in aramaic then the entire conversation is nonsense.

[@c.retana-holguin8318]

If you speak Spanish or another romance language--what Dr. Ehrman discusses about Peter and a rock would be clear. Pedro is Peter in Spanish, and the name is masculine; on the other hand, piedra is rock or stone and this noun is feminine.

[@user-fq4yz5ek3r]

Thanks for that! We Americans are spoiled in that so much of the world now speaks English,and we're typically horrible at learning another language. I took 4 years of Latin in high school,and a lot of people say,"Why?! It's a dead language". I'm not fluent in anything but English,but when reading French, Spanish or Italian,I can muddle through fairly well. Being a musician who does a lot of score study and my favorite composers are all French and Spanish gave me practice. Tres bien,mon ami! Magnifico! Gracias!

[@rashidaquil5284]

Jesus never said he is God nor worship me nor what did he do in marys womb for nine months and was he running the universe or did mary worship Jesus when feeding or cleaning him or Many more questions and confusion Jesus never preached trinity nor explained the concept to his disciples So many confusion and contradiction

[@edward1412]

An Abdul is here. Lol

[@davidmcclellan1920]

Just like a husband and wife become one because she's to treat him as God, Jesus and his Father (God) were one in that Jesus' words were really, supposedly, his Fathers' words. So, to say that God is 3 or more in one is about intellectual agreement and not in being. Since every Christian has, supposedly, a Holy Spirit in him, the term Holy Spirit is both singular and collective that indicates a large number of Holy Spirits so that the Trinity makes no sense.

[@user-dn3qf3nf3y]

The shorter sentences written are the same in Matthew and Mark but not the longer sentences that were written

[@jasonnelson316]

Derek, please kill the background music. Great info, but the music is suspicious. Thanks

[@tjwhite1963]

I like Dr. Ehrman for a number of reasons, but one thing I fault him for is too readily swallowing the received scholarly concensus regarding the dating of the gospels, when in fact we effectively have no mentions of any gospel prior to around 100-110 CE., and certainly no attestation of any attempt to collect any books now in our canonical NT prior to ca. 144 CE. This should at least raise the very legitimate question of possibly dating the gospels to when they first become attested, and stop presupposing that they must have been written shortly after 70 CE, simply because the traditional view of Christian history and the gospels has said this for nearly two thousand years.

[@misscameroon8062]

You must absolutely go to a headshrink to attest your historical attestation.

[@jonathandutra4831]

They were written way earlier

[@tjwhite1963]

@@jonathandutra4831 Evidence?

[@jonathandutra4831]

@@tjwhite1963 Which book ?

[@tjwhite1963]

Whichever one(s) you were referring to when you used the word "they". How would I know what's in your head?

[@thelyrebird1310]

It's kind of sad that most everything i see from Bart over the last few months is just an extended promotional video regarding his courses. 😢

[@TheMargarita1948]

You think he should work for free?

[@thelyrebird1310]

@TheMargarita1948 did I say that? Also, I know that he supports those of us unable to contribute all you have to do is ask. So no, I'm not even implying he work for free... so I suggest you stop with the accusations before you go gorilla on your keyboard, you outstanding warrior you. 👏

[@zapkvr]

​@@thelyrebird1310Except its the only point you made so you need to clarify WHY it bothers you so much. Or sit down

[@rcchristian2]

He has a lot of knowledge and he should definitely charge for it. Not sad at all. Pick up all the free info. You can look at it as a cup half full or half empty situation.

[@thelyrebird1310]

@rcchristian2 yeah that's fine but its just like watching a commercial for a car and going oh so now I know everything about automotive products.

[@nalcon1]

I would highly recommend studying the NT historical genealogy. Once you spend your time doing that, I think you will come to the conclusion just how accurate the 1611 KJV version is, followed by the current KJV. Never accept one side of the argument b4 hearing the other side. A good primer is Jason Lisles lectures.

[@dt5735]

So very early in this podcast Bart says “…there are hundreds of thousands of differences…” when he references his copy from a copy from a copy idea in surviving manuscripts. That’s a big number and I guarantee you he can’t back it up on a scholarly level. Bart infamously exaggerates such things but that in and of itself doesn’t invalidate his work.

[@lancenebeker8055]

I'm Christian and if you look at all into the subject you might have a change of mind.but that doesn't make Jesus fake just shows how belief of man and church are much like the farisee and sadusee of chist time. different verses of same books in different areas of Christianity. theology arguments put into scripures over areas of control from the many sides Greek Roman's had control first empire wise.then Roman catholic took control empirely and killed all that they could and they burned done and killed the city and killed the pope and the once that could ran to areas were they could survive in Russia area.then the protesters against the abuse of catholic power came along and got red of several books of the bible. anything new here? and along comes modern day and theologians of Christian denominations have much different scripures and books they quote from.saved by faith saved by babtism.saved by love just what book's you choose to lead your followers. but don't talk about prayer tought by Jesus in private and no speech and if you must Must say the lords prayer. but some say if you repeat then you are like some other group. if you don't understand what is being said and themeaning and listen of said saying would be so.but Jesus said them according to the author.paul fights on the side that says that the prayers of the sadusee and farasees have no effect on the food. but sum will quote one sentence that says all food is clean but the whole thing was about prayer and food so taken in context that they were eating wheat considered clean but needing prayer is that sentence to be taken as it is.translated from the Greek with many different versions to be found from the whole area from different times.not until printing press could you lock down even what was in stated book. but the books were written to the people of that time and what would they understand from their history and language

[@lancenebeker8055]

is a rat food and is clean without prayer and you will poo out the bad.would you consider that food and what did they consider food

[@lancenebeker8055]

and theological dictionary and the legal dictionary and medical dictionary and your English dictionary are all different. so how was it translated? and what is not in the bible but stated by the church that was translating can push it one way or the other by what world you use.like in the different translation even when you all come off of one translation as it is done today

[@lancenebeker8055]

and the bible authors can't even agree with each other on what day Jesus died and what was the meaning.

[@larry3591]

Awsome Derrick

[@broski365]

Imagine what was burned in the Christian book burnings. They had to know this information and there was great uproar between the government priests and the regular people

[@GlenKimpton]

"They didn't change the quran" Bart must know that's not true?

[@Dude0000]

That was a very strange claim.

[@nurledge]

Bart is spot on

[@fatherintkohoe3286]

Tabor mentioned in a different podcast rhe concept of hidden or lost Family of the historical Jesus. Id appreciate commentary from followers here with your thoughts on where that Family is today, do they know who they are, and if we could communicate with them would you have questions for them, what questions would you ask, if they told you that "Jesus" was alive right now and they know exactly where he is, what he's doing......any thoughts appreciated, trolling/sarcasm/humor welcome. Awesome podcast with 2 of the best researchers, both level headed, great at untangling questions politely and offering an explanation for what is actually being sought-after.

[@user-dn3qf3nf3y]

The sentences are different based on how the writer's knew about how the sentences the conversation's were either told about them or how they witnessed the conversation's themselves

[@JohnWilmerding]

Ehrmann's frequent giggling laugh makes him sound insane.

[@rosannag.burroughs4563]

The bible has not made people love and treat people, All people with love and kindness!!! So what is it Really for???

[@tonydangelo778]

The teachings of Christ have. Unfortunately, those are largely ignored

[@user-dn3qf3nf3y]

The sentence that apostle Peter said, we have given up everything to follow you! and 'who then can be saved?' But the longer sentence with the words in it that jesus supposedly took and used are written differently

[@rhecb]

Can’t wait 🙌🏻

[@studiodemichel]

As I listen carefully to these scholars, they never realize (or reject) or discuss the role of God in the writing, transmission and preservation of the texts. I did enjoy Tabor's discussion of the Dead Sea scrolls. I do enjoy listening to the historical and textual critics because they, here and there, give facts that enlighten the "mystery of the faith." I thank God (through faith in the work of the Holy Spirit and reverent scholars) that I am able to pick up my RSV, ESV or KJV and "know" I am reading reliable translations of ancient texts.

[@jameswright...]

If god isn't real then by default you have nothing from god. This is what's realised by these scholars. The bible be it kjv or the others are not correct translations and we know the mistakes and added extras. The bible is wrong historically scientifically and morally.

[@ThaShikushi]

You think KJV is a "reliable" translation? Really?

[@studiodemichel]

@@ThaShikushi Don't you? If that's all I had, I'd have all the crucial teachings needed. Who cares about the "jots and tittles?"

[@ThaShikushi]

@@studiodemichel The KJV includes several translation errors. There are several lists of them you can easily find online. Yes, most of them only affect details, but those errors hurt the reliability of the translation either way. I'd choose something like the NRSVUE over the KJV every single time if I wanted to read an accurate translation with footnotes.

[@studiodemichel]

@@ThaShikushi I read RSV and ESV, myself. But, neither of those contradict or improve the "the Good News."

[@robertmitchell8630]

Jesus "the only begotten son of God"isn't an individual person ,it's a title. Hinduism it called avatar or those who come from a higher conciousness to help ours evolve. The efforts of the Elohim,Avatars, Annunakis to evolve progressive men to inhabit the earth, thus form men whose life should manifest the DIVINE. Making earth holier than heaven so we can bring God down to Earth ,not kill people so we can go to heaven. "As long as we continue killing, be it animals or fellow humans, awaiting for us are wars". Buddha.

[@terrylivanidis1495]

These are all opinions, i just know when I mediate on the word or prey I feel it, it’s a good thing and feel empowered. I would love these debates to be done with a high profile pastor or priest who have given there lives to the belief and education. Let’s see a good debate and settle this doubt.

[@nohbuddy1]

Using Skyrim music for backgorund music 🙂

[@slippingsnake]

Doesn't this make Bart Ehrman a "new testament creationist"? I say the new testament was "fine-tuned" 😁

[@rcchristian2]

Evolution does exist??? Just study the new testament... haha

[@rudihaufe271]

when my children were young and ask me to tell a fairytale i always used 2 books....great stories from the bible and the other from grimms fairytales.

[@FinalFantasy8911debater]

Lol

[@anthonymarlowe6986]

​@@FinalFantasy8911debaterwhat's this lo black talk low is low.

[@user-dn3qf3nf3y]

The New Testament writer's used different words based on how the conversation's actually weren't spoken of with the same ("wording.")

[@user-dn3qf3nf3y]

The sentences on in the book of Matthew are written differently than what the sentences and words are written on in the book of Mark

[@Tonibolognaaintnophony]

I'm seriously praying people read the whole Bible & let God speak regardless of what's found & taught by others. Even though we can clearly see the changes, we end up realizing there is a God, we're gonna die, so what are we gonna to do until then? Learn from the losers in the Bible to follow the guiding of God. It's able to teach if we listen & allow us to see through the lies. It's a living book if after reading we're changed for the better ❤️

[@cipherklosenuf9242]

Hi Toni, you sound really sincere. Many who deconstruct, like myself, are familiar with the Bible and what it says is actually where the problems lie. It took me a long time to simply acknowledge that people write books. Anyway, hang in there, I wish you all the best.

[@Tonibolognaaintnophony]

@@cipherklosenuf9242 Thank you. I too am deconstructing since seeing I have Jewish blood. To see & hear the same hatred in Bible days still going on today, in the church worse yet, has me giving up that Jesus is God but that there is still God. I'm a better person because of the Bible either way. Shalom peace my friend 💖

[@tylenstark2394]

Any book ever written that was conceived 100 to 300 years after the events actually occurred handwritten by 3rd and 4th parties has a 1,000 per cent chance of being altered, plagiarized, false , massive interpretive errors, gross misrepresentations, influenced by those whose personal beliefs and opinions become the new view of whatever they are pushing on everyone else... The disciples were illiterate, couldn't read or write! So who did???

[@joemac84]

@@cipherklosenuf9242 What are the problems? The issue is that people want to look at these scripts as if they are either entirely fantasy or a literal science book.. There is this absolutist view where something is either all true in the literal or all false.. That's not how anything works in this life. For God to intervene on a fine-grained level across all time and space would be to preclude humanity's free agency.

[@cipherklosenuf9242]

@@joemac84 Hi Joe …I think I understand your point that we need not consider the contents of the Bible as “all true” or “all false”. Yet, That does suggest that some of the content is true…and some is false…right? One may use empirical approaches to evaluate content in an ancient narrative in an effort to understand what may be true. Some things once considered to be true by ancient culture we know to be false…correct? And some things we aren’t sure to be true given no access to reliable evidence remain narratives that may be all …some…or not at all true…we don’t know. We have many narratives, and many interpretations over generations and many conclusions….right? And Some of the narratives in the Bible are horrible by our standards…right? So …I agree we need not say it’s all true or all false to arrive at the reasonable conclusion that the Bible is an ancient collection of culturally created literature …right? We have insufficient evidence to conclude otherwise about any ancient literature. People write books. What are your thoughts?

[@mohamedbaridhwan3017]

It's all true what you say. We would assume God brought one relegion which centres mainly on monotheism and guidance from the prophets of the time to their people in their language. Distortions happened in between the prophets. Except for the last prophet where a promise of preservation was given by God. And this final word has brought to light what was hidden in the distortions of previous. God guides whom he wills though the truth is in plain sights in Islam. May God guide us in seeing.

[@grantwithers]

wow 4 hrs. Settle in boyoz.

[@AvanaVana]

3:17:00 it is such a pet peeve of mine when people “ask questions” just as a front for promoting their marginal, pet ideas. I find it so disrespectful, especially when doing this to eminent scholars. It is a selfish waste of everyone’s time. The etymology of “Joshua” is incredibly clear, as Dr. Tabor explained the first time this pet idea was thrust upon the stream, to anybody who knows Hebrew, and it has nothing to do with “saffron”. The Hebrew word for Saffron (in antiquity) is כרכום (karkóm), completely unrelated to the Akkadian word azupīru/azupīranu. The Akkadian word for saffron comes from the Semitic root *ṣ-p-r, meaning “to become yellow”, as in Arabic ṣufr (“brass”), ṣafar (“jaundice”), and ʔaṣfar (“yellow”).

[@thelyrebird1310]

The whole concept of the jesus "family" were deeply involved with establishing the "church" in fact im pretty convinced that they were all involved with the grift

[@pdam6131]

Here are a few of Bart's unsubstantiated presuppositions which he uses to arrive at his predetermined and unsustainable conclusions. 1. Bart says since we do not have the original text we cannot know if we have an authentic record. Using this same criteria we would have to dismiss the record of every ancient book because we do not have any those original autographs either since they all decayed with time. It is standard textual procedure to assess reliability based on the agreement of the extant copies. 2. Bart says the Alexandrian text is the closest to the original text. This is pure speculation which goes against the real evidence. The early church writings are replete with Scriptural citations that do not show a connection to the Alexandrian text. Those citations are more ancient than the extant Alexandrian texts that we have. We could not even construct a complete NT without the Byzantine family of texts because the Alexandrian texts are missing large portions of the Scriptures. Sinaiticus has later revisions from their original authorship showing that the scribes of that era knew the Alexandrian Sinaiticus was corrupted. Early translations do not show a reliance on the Alexandrian texts. The early church used a text family that was more Byzantine and came from the original geographical locations of the texts where the apostles had their ministry. The textual theories of conflation for longer readings were promoted by Hort and Westcott, and then Metzger; but many Critical Text advocates have realized that the alleged examples of conflation are in some cases flawed and in others purely speculative. Even the famous Trinity passage is cited by early church writers showing its existence earlier than our oldest extant manuscripts. Jerome collected the best manuscripts of his time when he wrote the Vulgate and we have no record of a disputation for his inclusion of the Trinity text. There are many other Scriptures which teach the Trinity. In the very beginning God said Let "us" make man in "our" image--and we are body, soul, and spirit. 3. If the Alexandrian Sinaiticus text is relegated to the trash where it was discarded, we now have large consensus with only minor scribal errors among the majority of the manuscripts. The early church record indicates that texts were being corrupted which is why they primarily used the Byzantine family. 4. Bart says the Quran does not have variants. But Bart does not mention that Uthman gathered and destroyed all textual variants in order to create a standardized Uthmanic text for the Quran. 5. Bart says the there are no textual families in the Torah, but the Masoretic text is a family of texts. 6. Bart says the Yahweh of the OT promoted genocide, but Bart does not mention that the Canaanite nations of that time used genocide indiscriminately while Yahweh limited the killing to those nations who resisted the Israelite possession of the land. Bart does not mention that the new covenant in the NT changes our covenant conduct. Bart does not mention that this is more of a problem for Judaism, because Judaism still considers the OT to be the current covenant. *These unsubstantiated presuppositions are sufficient to show that Bart is working towards a predetermined conclusion which lacks supporting evidence.

[@korlentalo3876]

Very good points!

[@pdam6131]

All the major doctrines that the church believes today are contained in the ante Nicene church writings before there were any ecumenical councils held. This explodes the notion that somehow the church was influenced by manichaean thought and formulated it into church doctrine. Bart's point simply will not pass the evidence test. Skepticism has become synonymous with wishful speculation.

[@pdam6131]

Both Josephus and Philo are clear that the Jews had a defined canon known as the Tanakh but that there were other books that the Jews valued though they never considered them canonical. You will not find a shred of evidence among Jewish records that there was ever a Rabbinical consensus that the book of Jubilees was considered canonical. Bart's arguments are as ludicrous as stating every book that we find in one library is somehow linked together.

[@pdam6131]

The background of Christianity is not Judaism per se as it is the Scriptures of the Old Testament. Jesus never aligned with any branch of Judaism but He did align with the Scriptures. The various movements of Judaism align with Jesus to the extent that they agree with the interpretation of the OT Scriptures of Jesus and His apostles who recorded Jesus' words.

[@ernielawrence8920]

Thanks!

[@janeeb859]

Where do I find this course?

[@FunnyVideos51836]

i am proud to be Christian ✝️🙏🙏

[@user-fz7sc1yt6x]

Here are a few of Bart's unsubstantiated presuppositions which he uses to arrive at his predetermined and unsustainable conclusions. 1. Bart says since we do not have the original text therefore we cannot know if we have an authentic record. Using this same criteria we would have to dismiss the record of every ancient book because we do not have any those original autographs either since they all decay with time. It is standard procedure to assess reliability based on the agreement of the copies. 2. Bart says the Alexandrian text is the closest to the original text. This is pure speculation which goes against the real evidence. The early church writings are replete with Scriptural citations that do not show a connection to the Alexandrian text. Those citations are more ancient than the extant Alexandrian texts that we have. We could not even construct a complete NT without the Byzantine family of texts because the Alexandrian texts are missing large portions of the Scriptures. Sinaiticus has later revisions from their original authorship showing that the scribes of that era knew the Alexandrian Sinaiticus was corrupted. Early translations do not show a reliance on the Alexandrian texts. The early church used a text family that was more Byzantine and came from the original geographical locations of the texts where the apostles had their ministry. The textual theories of conflation for longer readings were promoted by Hort and Westcott, and then Metzger; but many Critical Text advocates have realized that the alleged examples of conflation are in some cases flawed and in others purely speculative. Even the famous Trinity passage is cited by early church writers showing its existence earlier than our oldest extant manuscripts. Jerome collected the best manuscripts of his time when he wrote the Vulgate and no one disputed his inclusion of the Trinity text. There are many other Scriptures which teach the Trinity. In the very beginning God said Let "us" make man in "our" image--and we are body, soul, and spirit. 3. If the Alexandrian Sinaiticus text is relegated to the trash where it was discarded, we now have large consensus with only minor scribal errors among the majority of the manuscripts. The early church record indicates that texts were being corrupted which is why they primarily used the Byzantine family. 4. Bart says the Quran does not have variants. But Bart does not mention that Uthman gathered and destroyed all textual variants in order to create a standardized Uthmanic text for the Quran. 5. Bart says the there are no textual families in the Torah, but the Masoretic text is a family of texts. 6. Bart says the Yahweh of the OT promoted genocide, but Bart does not mention that the Canaanite nations of that time used genocide indiscriminately while Yahweh limited the killing to those nations who resisted the Israelite possession of the land. Bart does not mention that the new covenant in the NT changes our covenant conduct. Bart does not mention that this is more of a problem for Judaism, because Judaism still considers the OT to be the current covenant. *These unsubstantiated presuppositions are sufficient to show that Bart is working towards a predetermined conclusion which lacks supporting evidence.

[@Mackaygolf]

This was the most useless attempt to dissuade me from a position that I've EVER encountered, despite the overt bloviation. There is a serious lack of intellectual capacity contained in your post. Congratulations, you played yourself.

[@tarhunta2111]

Exactly.

[@mariovillarreal8647]

So, he is not wrong in saying Yahweh promoted GENOCIDE. REGARDLESS OF What Anyone else was doing. The Jewish and Canaanite are both Semitic peoples; cousins. Abraham lived in Canaan after fleeing poison dust clouds and winds of Sodom/Gomorrah nuclear destruction. Yahweh just one of forty "sons" of Elyon in Deuteronomy 43. Dead Sea SCROLLS. Elyon "Father "god" of these "sons" ". Polytheistic Judaism; NOT BEFORE JUDAISM, DURING JUDAISM, DURING DEUTERONOMY 43-46. LATER TEXTS AND COPIES CHANGED TO REFLECT ONE GOD. YAHWEH INSTRUCTED "chosen people" to kill every Man, Woman and CHILD to receive promised land. Leave no remnant; kill even the dogs, parakeets and livestock. Not just those tribes that wouldn't submit to submission and forfeiture, Seizure of HOMELANDS! "KILL EVERY MAN WOMAN CHILD- NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN COMBATANT OR NON COMBATANT!! EVERY MAN WOMAN and CHILD. A COLLECTIVE KILLING STILL GOING ON TODAY BY THE BLOODTHIRSTY, HOMICIDAL HOARDE OF HUMANITY KILLERS Yahweh created by putting them to put woman and CHILDREN TO THE SWORD. SNEAKING BACK IN THE NIGHT TO PRE-EXISTING Settlements THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY SETTLED THEIR "PROMISED LAND". Yahweh said," Every Man Woman and CHILD. Nothing , no distinction of surrender. No quarter given. GENOCIDE ON A MASS INDISCRIMINATE SCALE!! Sound Familiar!!?? And come to find out Yahweh NOT Even "god". Just a Lesser, Minor Anunnaki Reptilian shapeshifter OVERLORD under Baal and Elyon!! An Evil Canaanite Pantheon of FALSE "gods" of Judaism. Simply a Space traveling Crew Chief Elyon and his crew member "sons".Primitive man's take on an expeditionary, colonizing force from the skies; higher beings , the ELOHIM. The "shining ones " , the "Enlightened Ones"( From above) of Sumerian tablets. The oldest writings KNOWN to MAN!! Evil MURDER NOT DIVINE PROVIDENCE. ON PEOPLE WHO HAD OPENED THEIR PREEXISTING SETTLEMENT GATES ON YOUR PROMISED LAND. GIVING the "chosen" temporary respite from the harsh desert climate feeding and watering your Women and CHILDREN and Elderly. THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING TODAY; KILLING YOUR VERY SOULS AS YOU THINK YOU ONLY KILL YOUR COUSINS. "Canaanites WERE doing it too"! You are the Canaanites under Abraham , worshipping a SNAKE FALSE "god" Reptilian shapeshifters OVERLORDS unholy trinity of Yahweh, Baal and Solomon! Who did away with other "sons" Moloch, Marduk etc.,etc.,. Solomon abrogated the Covenant with their "god" Elyon/ Yahweh by worshipping Baal beneath the Holy of Holies. Making the Ark of the Covenant just so much more Babylonian spoils. Baal a "god" of money, perverse loveless sex and CHILD SACRIFICE. DOING AWAY WITH ELYON and elevating himself and Baal on a par with Yahweh. The unholy trinity. Elyon- Elon Musk. Yahweh- NetanYAHU. VERY weird coincidence! Round #2 Elyon vs Baal, Solomon and Yahweh ?? End Times... Not "gods" simply greedy, selfish colonizers with a "chosen" people AGENDA. Anunnaki Reptilian shapeshifters still in control today. Using Society, Mass Media, Monetary system and World Banks to hold control and hold man captive; Along with Religion. While Lackey, Minion Mega-Corporations rape and pillage to this day for Anunnaki Reptilian shapeshifter OVERLORDS."what one does or thinks One does to OTHERS; One is actually Doing to Oneself"! A MANIACAL GENOCIDE SUICIDE. Something NO EVIL DICTATOR COULD EVER MAKE YOU DO; YOUR LEADERS DO TO YOU for the Unholy trinity. Don't allow it OH PEOPLE OF Israel; Harken Ye!! Thank you for listening. Mario SirSirReal Villarreal. Peace and Love from CentralCoastCalifornia.. Sorry but its my duty to God to let you KNOW; as you already DO, Yahweh is NOT THE ONE TRUE GOD. But God has inserted Him Her Itself in nearly All MAN's works of art music and literature EVEN the Bible so that we may know Him Her It. But NOT ALL ATTRIBUTED TO GOD IN THE BIBLE IS OF GOD OR OF A GODLY NATURE. THANK GOD!! God bless you ALL!

[@mariovillarreal8647]

Re: #6 "Unsubstantiated"!!?? It's in your Friggin "good book". For Peter's Sake!! " KILL EVERY MAN WOMAN and CHILD For your promised land." "Unsubstantiated" makes your Whole bible "unsubstantiated " then!! Thank you for sharing. Mario SirSirReal Villarreal. " Well, that's Out of Context!" Oookkaaayy!!

[@RoseSharon7777]

That's why we were told to establish the word of truth by 2 or 3 witnesses line upon line precept upon precept. Rightly divide the word of truth (from scripture bal lies Jer 8.8).

[@douglasboyd8475]

Was Matthew 28:19 added?

[@user-om2os5yr6i]

Ehrman doesn't seem to know that the other gospels were all cribbed from Mark (with strategic alterations), and Mark was cribbed mainly from Paul's letters, its anonymous author largely just stuffing Paul's opinions into his Jesus's mouth as he trotted his Jesus around Judea, cribbing plot points from the OT and Homer, _all in text order._ There is no faintest trace of evidence for any of Ehrman's "oral traditions"; Paul in the 50s had very evidently never heard of any. 1 Clement (i.e. elders of Rome) writing in the early 60s has Paul and Peter dead by then, and also offers no hint of any "oral tradition". Writing in the 70s, Mark seems not to have had access to much of anything but Paul. Ehrman _probably_ should get caught up on current fact-based scholarship before he takes any more money from unsuspecting students.

[@erpthompsonqueen9130]

What?

[@user-om2os5yr6i]

@@erpthompsonqueen9130 _Fact-based,_ I said.

[@theobolt250]

Oops. If there's anyone who knows (in detail!) who penned off from whom, then it's Bart Ehrman! There are even a few videos of him concerning that topic going around here on youtube!

[@erpthompsonqueen9130]

@@user-om2os5yr6i What are your credentials?

[@user-om2os5yr6i]

@@theobolt250 Ehrman still insists there was a live, non-imaginary Jesus walking around saying things and getting executed, and even insists there is evidence to support that, although when asked he never has it; he just huffs and blusters. He still trots out the old saw that early Christians would have been shocked at their messiah executed, as if that weren't a messiah's _whole purpose_ for being made up. Of course it was safest for them just to _say_ it all happened decades back. Who could check? But 2 Peter is proof not everybody was going along with the "walking, talking Jesus" program; those were all burnt, in the end. Early christians liked burning almost as much as they liked back-dating forged documents.

[@ben3649]

How many Christians does it take Dr. Tabor for one of you to really practise the teachings and go all the way until he or she becomes a true Teacher? And what is it that a true Teacher actually comes to teach? 😇❤👣

[@paulenzor6993]

Academic freedom should be based on integrity of scholarship!!

[@erpthompsonqueen9130]

Thank you. Watching from Alaska.

[@user-dn3qf3nf3y]

It is the same thing with other sentences that were written with different words and with out the other words that were said on in the other book of Mark as it is shown written on in Matthew

[@user-dn3qf3nf3y]

The words on in Mark are altered from how they are shown written on in the book of Matthew

[@user-dn3qf3nf3y]

'With man this is impossible but with god all things are possible.' same sentence in Matthew and Mark but one word was added after that

[@user-dn3qf3nf3y]

The writer of the book of Acts used different words from what Paul took and said on after he had the trip to Damascus experience

[@Fairplayer43]

I hope with all my heart that you also consulted St. Jerome when the Greek translation was again translated into Latin. St. Jerome was quite thorough when he consulted the original Arameic. As a matter of fact I am surprised you did not mention Jerome? To be fair I have not read your book. Mentioning Jerome's participation is a must! (Including Augustine. Remember that the Egyptian library was burned. St. Augustine came from Egypt and might have had access to more sources that aren't currently known. Please don't be so hasty when declaring your conclusions or lack there of.

[@ryuhayabusa5935]

The message is important

[@CarmenRizzo-pn1uw]

Entire phrases are missing , visualization

[@neilclaypoole7529]

Great show again .James does not look or act like he’s 77 at all .

[@jonathanstein6056]

I’m curious to hear how Rabbi Singer would answer some of these questions. Or Rabbi Ariel Bar Tzadok, if you can convince him to come on. Also, stop conflating Christianity’s interpretation of Judaism with actual Judaism - after all your shows with Rabbi Singer, you should know better.

[@user-dn3qf3nf3y]

The book of Matthew doesn't mention Jesus looking around constantly as it is written on in the book of Mark

[@patriciaschlessman5476]

So generous to say this doesn’t detract from Christianity. Makes it exactly like every cult that ever existed!

[@Ronald-pe8di]

We have a copy of Mathew from 125ad

[@user-dn3qf3nf3y]

If for an example the writer of the book of matthew got told what was actually said on at the clearing of the temple event then why didn't the writer write what the writer of the book of John took and wrote?

[@user-dn3qf3nf3y]

The fig tree for example is withered immediately on in the book of Matthew it is written but not in the book of Mark