How The Old Timers Handled Money & Water.

[@joelaichner3025]

Still the best teacher on the internet

[@ModernRefugee]

I try.

[@WingardMT]

Agree!

[@Baddie_you.a.trackstar]

How long does it take to get your radio license in your state?

[@SharonAnnMenefee]

We have a floor safe. It's in concrete. The house that I grew up in was built in 1871. We fired with coal with steam radiators. The upstairs was never really warm, and it was tough on cold winter mornings. Oak hardwood floors throughout this large house. The woodwork was incredibly beautiful. Two cisterns in the yard and a pitcher pump mounted on a cast iron basin outside the back porch. The best house to grow up in and only good memories!

[@POLLYGIVENS]

I grew up with a cistern. That water was plumbed for the washer, toilet, etc. I remember how my sister and I would climb down in it every summer - when it had been really dry weather - and scrub it out. Wash down the walls, scrub the floor. Never with soap, just stiff brooms and elbow grease. Mom or Dad would help us bucket-out the rest of the water. It was a cool chore on a hot, dry summer day. My grandparents lived in a local village/town and had a hand pump in addition to the city water hook-up. Grandma refused to drink the city water and she had a pail with a lid and dipper sitting on the kitchen counter. Grandad filled the pail every day.

[@ModernRefugee]

@@POLLYGIVENS great story. Thank you for sharing it.

[@edieboudreau9637]

Yep

[@WingardMT]

Wonderful!

[@marcb953]

A lot of the old trimers around me didn’t seem to have much money but definitely knew how to barter. They were always cheerful givers.

[@ModernRefugee]

Sounds like around here.

[@Baddie_you.a.trackstar]

Words of wisdom. Wishing you a speedy recovery good sir!

[@candiceuebrick3803]

I also knew people who would keep their documents and extra money in a lock box. But they would keep it in the deep freeze or in their freezer in the kitchen. The idea behind it was that if they had a fire the freezer would offer an extra layer of protection.

[@ModernRefugee]

I have heard that too.

[@henrymorgan3982]

The real basics of survival are harder to do, but are foolproof. Great video!

[@ModernRefugee]

Thank you.

[@edieboudreau9637]

Hi, M. R. Got my rooibos ginger tea to listen with. 😆 Old timers and money. Yes...either a safe, a mattress, an attic metal box in the eaves, glass jars of valuables buried in flower garden under the rose bush or lilac, Pickle crock in cellar, tin box under the loose brick of the fireplace. Egg money was often saved for specifics.

[@ModernRefugee]

@@edieboudreau9637 I have heard a couple of those too. Take care

[@subdawg1331]

OMG yes memories lol lock boxes definitely ... when I helped clear out my grandparents place yep lots of lock boxes and a small safe.. see this is why we listen to your videos this is a great idea... I have started keeping cash other places than the banks.. the way things are going would rather have some in a safe place... water OMG every video has me adding to the list... awesome videos

[@ModernRefugee]

@@subdawg1331 thank you. Take care.

[@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123]

I was watching a video the other day of a young couple that bought an old farmhouse and were remodeling it. While taking up layers of old flooring in the kitchen they uncovered a brick lined well !!! It was so clean and the water looked like the Caribbean ❤ What a beautiful treasure to have right in your home, I would have put in a hand pump but they are reframing the top with new wood and are going to put glass over it so they have a view ! What a treasure to discover !!!

[@ModernRefugee]

@@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123 yes if I had something like that I would use it.

[@lindakelly7528]

We all think we are so much smarter and more sophisticated today, but it is amazing what people accomplished and how they lived in the past. When I was younger, many people in my area had cisterns, most are gone now. When you see what is in municipal water today you wonder if they were'nt better off!

[@ModernRefugee]

I will always say (except for a few things) that the old ways are better and sustaining.

[@monkeyfoodgarden]

Thank you sir. First thing that we did when moving to our property was to add an hand pump to the well. Live in a hurricane area so no matter what we are going to have water and we can supply water to the neighbors. Great information as always. Have a blessed day.

[@ModernRefugee]

Hand pumps are so valuable.

[@patriotpreacher43]

I was in an old farmhouse once that had a spring coming directly into the cellar. Great water and the perfect "prep" to have. Hope things are improving on the recovery. Still praying for you. Awaiting the next installment of the "days of recovery" series!

[@ModernRefugee]

Thank you.

[@BBREAKAWAY]

Another good chat. Thank you from Northern AZ

[@ModernRefugee]

Thank you.

[@MichaelR58]

Having a cup with you, have a great day, thanks for sharing, YAH bless brother !

[@jenharvey3397]

I still think the best investment is a full pantry!

[@ModernRefugee]

@@jenharvey3397 me too!

[@capthappy345]

Good info! I got a backup hand pump 4 my well.

[@ModernRefugee]

Awesome!

[@ReederReno]

MR ! I’ve been out for the thanksgiving weekend. I didn’t know you were have surgery ! I pray everything went smoothly for you ! God Bless You and your Family !!! I pray you’re feeling better ! Thank You !

[@ModernRefugee]

@@ReederReno thank you.

[@MiddleEastMilli]

Excellent! Thank you!

[@ModernRefugee]

@@MiddleEastMilli thank you.

[@JT-2012]

The water at the back of the stove was a great idea for maintaining hot water. Love multi-use processes.👍😄. Have a great week.

[@ModernRefugee]

You too!

[@edieboudreau9637]

Hi JT.

[@JT-2012]

@@edieboudreau9637 Hi Edie.👋😄. Wonderful to see you, my friend. Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving.

[@jacquiesuper2200]

My older aunts and uncles had a farm and I remember when I was litle, we would go and visit. I wish my parents were more into that way of life so that would have rubbed off on me at a young age. Wish I knew more about them now. Thanks so much. As always, you are a wealth of info that I look forward too each time I see you post. God Bless. Hope you heal quickly.

[@ModernRefugee]

@@jacquiesuper2200 thank you.

[@marygallagher3428]

Enjoyed the video!

[@WingardMT]

Sistern, that was it! Thank you for always providing the historical knowledge we still use today. Enjoying your recovery content, what have been your favorite pantry meals this time?

[@ModernRefugee]

@@WingardMT today I am making lasagna because I am feeling a little better all the items are from the freezer or pantry. I did ham, mashed potatoes, green beans and sweet potatoes for Thanksgiving again everything was from the freezer or pantry. One night we did French toast and sausage and of course soups. We made bean and white chicken chili.

[@terryoliver1410]

And grandpa head two guns. Single shot shotgun and the 22… working tools but kept family secure. Still smile every time I see you octagon barrel On an old 22

[@ModernRefugee]

Grandpa’s was a round barrel, but his friend had a lot octagon barrel.

[@lulaporter6080]

There are several public springs, we call them artesian wells, locally. I've seen a spring flowing down by the pond, but I haven't dug it out or installed a hand pump there. My parents didn't have a safe, but I have one. I am your grandmother's version of wealthy with full pantries.

[@ModernRefugee]

Awesome!

[@EssentialTam33]

You're a gem! Thank you for sharing, and reminding some of us what we already knew and forgot 😅. In all seriousness, one thing true prepared-minded people say, is that it's a mindset. People get tangled up in how we will work harder without certain comforts. I guess...but it's not harder to get a pail of water in winter. It IS more uncomfortable 😂. If you "need" a latte, it WILL be harder than a regular black cup of coffee, but if your mindset is to have a hot beverage and not to be bougie, you will be ok!

[@ModernRefugee]

@@EssentialTam33 thank you.

[@eliinthewolverinestate6729]

I have 2 brick cisterns and an old well in basement of our 200 year old house. Growing up we kept an old cast kettle on the wood stove. Had to put some cider vinegar in it once a month.

[@ModernRefugee]

That was common here too Keeping a pot on the stove for humidity.

[@greenbean8826]

Was that to clean the mineral deposits off of the kettle?

[@PenntuckytheCrag]

We had a cisturn. Had a trap door right in front of the kitchen sink to access the water

[@mikebelcher6692]

Granny lived in the mountains and had a spring house 200 yds away where water was carried and put it in the bucket with a dipper in the kitchen. I remember drinking from that old dipper. Wood cook stove she used into the mid 1970’s, and a potbelly stove in house. I still remember the smell of pine kindling used to start a fire with for both stoves. Had a kitchen table with a built in drawer in the center where the leftover biscuits n corn bread were kept to be brought out for next meals. House burned and the new house had electricity n she hated the new cook stove. Still had the 2 holer outhouse until water was plumbed in by Dad n Uncles in mid 70’s. Had a spare “can house” where all the canned goods were kept. I still remember them making lye soap n cracklings when they would render the lard from hogs. She told me the only thing depression impacted them was they couldn’t get coffee n sugar.

[@ModernRefugee]

I remember drinking from the dipper and the old tin cup hanging on the well pump.

[@greenbean8826]

I had no idea they used to have cisterns in basements. I have been thinking about a good way to catch rainwater and snow melt from my metal roof and not have the rain barrels freeze in the wintertime. I guess I need to watch some videos on how to get the water from your roof to your basement now! Thank you.

[@washburnbilly]

Great chat brother 👍. I'm trying to prepare for more than just me. I found a great video for "dipping a well" awhile back. I would email it to you if I could.

[@ModernRefugee]

I have see where they one a well and use a can to pull water up manually. Seems like it worked rather well.

[@washburnbilly]

@ModernRefugee this one was ingenious with PVC and a homemade rubber flap that would let it sink and then hold the water as you pulled it up.

[@ModernRefugee]

@ the one I seen was similar with a metal can. You can post the link here and I will look at it. Thank you.

[@KathysTube]

My house was built in the 1880's and we have a cistern...it hasn't been used to collect water in a really long time... people started putting yard trash and stuff in it as long as I remember... I never heard stories about money... Interesting history 🥶👍

[@wherami]

It’s a wonderful life story

[@ModernRefugee]

Thank you.

[@justusupnorth8262]

Interesting chat👍

[@ModernRefugee]

Thank you.

[@pats9055]

My dad kept his valuables in a safe stored in a fireplace that wasn't being used. He made a solar hot water tank long before it was in style. It was so efficient the electric company came out to see if he had rigged something because his electric bills were so low. He had to do something because his 8 kids were keeping him in the "poorhouse" as he often said.

[@ModernRefugee]

Thank you. Take care.

[@fgallogallo7]

Our old farmhouse still has a cistern in the basement unusable nowadays. Everything we have is paid for. Wouldn’t mind burying my money. Good topics MR.

[@ModernRefugee]

Thank you.

[@Northernnine8878]

Wise words!

[@MichaelR58]

My great Gramma had a hand pump in her kitchen but had the outhouse out the back , potbelly stove in the living room, used coal sometimes, that was in ithe mid 60's

[@ModernRefugee]

Sounds like the farms I remember.

[@edieboudreau9637]

Mine in the 70s

[@Feribrat99]

I got through a year of no running water and then a year of windmill only after we got that rigged. fed livestock and us and only had to fill up a few times to have clean drinking water we had garbage cans and boughtr some new ones and collected the rain water for a LONG time. Still fill em up[ now for hurricanes. NC Florida. # little kids and mules and cats at the time, now goats and chickens

[@WoodsBooksandBuilding]

We are on a lake and also have have very clear stream water that’s on our property but to me having good running water is bar none a major thing for self sufficiency. Our well water is electrically pumped. I’d love to get a hand pump. We’ve had a few long winter outages and I’m telling ya, I can stay warm 🔥 but lack of water is not fun. We do have a generator but it’s used for our fridge, freezers etc. mainly I did learn that I need to get more buckets. I left a lot of them when we retired and moved. Going to get some more.

[@3adscout826]

The wife and I have discussed having another well drilled. Our current well is 45’ deep. I believe it has filled in over the years ( drill in 1960). We live on top of hill so 45’ is shallow. With new well I want to add a solar well pump then put a pitcher pump on the old well. Watering animals definately takes a lot. In winter it is even more challenging. We do have a 1400 gallon rain catchment system that collects water off our pole barn. That is primarily used to water our garden in summer. Regarding money- debt is evil. Some older renditions of “The Lord’s Prayer” is “forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors”. I have gone to numerous Amish “retirement” auctions and have concluded that one of the tools that the Amish use to store their wealth is just “stuff”. Gold and silver is fine but those that have “stuff” will be in a much better position after SHTF. I believe that it is highly probable that gold/silver will not have as much value as everyone believes it will after things like a CME, EMP or nuclear war. Everything will be scarce, what won’t be scarce people with gold and silver

[@ModernRefugee]

Thank you for sharing your stories. It’s all relevant. Take care.

[@briarpalek9254]

I knew an old timer that hid his $$ in farm machinery and in his dairy barn. He didn't believe or trust in banks after what happened to people's cash in the depression concerning the banks. I also know a fellow who has dealt in antique farm tractors, parts, and manuals for several decades. He knew a fellow who purchased an old farm tractor to restore, and when he went to work on the fuel tank, it was stuffed full of cash. I am sure many used safes in their home, but the safe may have just been a decoy if you get my drift.

[@ModernRefugee]

@@briarpalek9254 yes I definitely get the drift.Thanks for sharing your story.

[@joelaichner3025]

Hello ! Occasionally , I get aggressive, it goes away ?

[@ModernRefugee]

Not sure.

[@ModernRefugee]

I seen this one.

[@sunset6010]

You are FASCINATING, MR ⭐️ QUESTIONS ● What type of rooftops did they have? (I take it that it wasnt one that made their water toxic ... 💧) ● Did they prefer a type of rooftop design? ● What was their favorite way of heating? 🔥

[@ModernRefugee]

@@sunset6010 they all had wood cook stoves or large wood stoves or both. Also coal furnaces. Back then it was cedar shake singles on the roof. Which was just thin pieces of cedar wood.

[@alphaomegasurvivalsupply6548]

Most preppers on YT don't talk about safes because no safe companies have paid them to, something to think about....

[@ModernRefugee]

Good point! I’m not like that though. I try to give solid actionable information with no shilling.

[@alphaomegasurvivalsupply6548]

@ModernRefugee oh I know you aren't lol. That's why I like your channel because it's real, and you never have bad advice, unlike some of these channels out there 🤣. Thanks for all you do, even when you're not feeling the best! 💪

[@eliinthewolverinestate6729]

A lot of old timers put real money in the flu of the fireplace. Get out of debt is great advice. The least amount of bills as possible. Gold should be held at least 10 years to recoop premium price. Gold panning is a fun hobby. I like silver and platinum. They hold value while the currencies loose value.

[@ModernRefugee]

They still pan up north. I have seen them do it.

[@WingardMT]

Pantry I$ is the bank indeed. Busy today making meals in jars from holiday meats cooked, beef strognoff and chicken stew now on the shelf yum! What has been your favorite pantry items for meals during recovery?

[@ModernRefugee]

@@WingardMT I am doing lasagna today because I am feeling a little better. It’s all from the pantry or freezer. We did ham, mashed potatoes, green beans and sweet potatoes for thanksgiving again it was all from the pantry or freeze. We also did French toast with homemade bread and sausage one night and of course soups, bean & white chicken chili.

[@sandsock]

i'm gen x and my kids are 19 and 22. shame for me to admit it. both of them have their own safe , you caught me flat footed. they both do well on storing excess cash in a safe. we do keep several 4gal water jugs on hand and rotate it around. we got a old cistern also. my neighbor is a tightwad scrooge. he has a couple cows nothing fancy. but on his barn he has a eavespouting that has a bypass/redirect. that runs directly to a 18ooish gal water tank. then has some sort of a sump pump that fills the water tank for his 9 cows. his house has a cistern that runs his house and he can pump it over to the cow tank , if he was forced to. he has a well pump but pinching pennies, he doesnt want the cows using up all his well pump water or any xtra wear and tear on it. [i think he is over thinking saving the well pump. but he is a american and do what he wants.] down here in ohio, we usually have enough steady rains to keep his cistern and water tank full, with a inch of rain every 2 weeks.

[@ModernRefugee]

@@sandsock thank you for sharing your story.

[@joelaichner3025]

Grandpa taught me ? If you can’t pay in full in cash , you can’t afford it yet ! I’ve never bought a new car or truck before , but I’ve smelt them inside , smells new ? Old joke , old people can squeeze a Nickel so hard that a Penny falls out !

[@ModernRefugee]

I have heard that too.

[@joelaichner3025]

Snowed for 15 minutes yesterday , hard , then it was gone ! 1/2 inch , looks like 2 1/2 inches on the garage roof total this year so far , they always called this area the Banana Belt , snows goes around us , if it’s like last winter ? I’m going to need therapy ! Probably my Snowmobile too ! Stuck in the house

[@ModernRefugee]

@@joelaichner3025 yeah you guys didn’t get much last year.

[@mr.zardoz3344]

The Secret of Oz with Bill Still is free on KZbin. Its a documentary on the economy, and the symbolism of The Wizard of Oz the book had. I think its relevant with your discussion concerning the old timers and how they viewed money and safes.

[@capnjimmy7357]

In a long term SHTF if there is no power you can always remove the internal jet pump, wiring, and plumping from a well . Then drop down a 3ft piece of 1.5 IN ( or bigger)PVC (via attached rope ) caped on the bottom . to pull out water by Hand, there are KZbin Vids about it. but obviously this is a lot of work and disables the well.

[@capnjimmy7357]

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[@ThisTooShallPass2030]

Water is a big deal with having 8 cows for the first time (over winter), learning a lot about freezing hoses lol

[@ModernRefugee]

@@ThisTooShallPass2030 yes water is huge if you have animals. Steers have to eat and drink. No holidays with farming. Take care.

[@chriswhinery]

If you want to throw off a burglar, get two safes. One with a few things that look valuable and hide it where it can be found easily. The other safe can be well hidden, and should have your real treasure. As for water, the least expensive way to store it is 300 gal totes. Around here they are a hundred bucks apiece.

[@ModernRefugee]

Yes always good to have a decoy.

[@PenntuckytheCrag]

Don’t go w/ lock box. I’ve had one stolen w/ lots of valuables

[@ModernRefugee]

Yes a safe is better.

[@susiebilk9905]

I don’t trust banks!😊

[@kramitdreams]

My parents still have their cistern 😊

[@joelaichner3025]

Take your Bananas & Sweet Potatoes, Flintstones vitamins have side effects , 3 ,

[@ModernRefugee]

We have been eating sweet potatoes.

[@joelaichner3025]

Constipation , diarrhea , stomach cramps , Flintstones Vitamins , things you learn reading , checking a trivia answer

[@ModernRefugee]

@ all of the above

[@eliinthewolverinestate6729]

I like this back drop better. The hand saw and corn is cool and all. I like the hunting corner better. Currencies loose value. Money is a store of value.

[@ModernRefugee]

Thanks too hard to start a fire feeling like I do. Especially to keep it going all day.

[@WoodsBooksandBuilding]

Both me and my husband grew up in the city (me city, hubs suburbs) in Canada but we always had a safe once we married and raised a family. Maybe it’s because we were both raised by immigrants? I don’t know - his from England & Scotland, mine from Hungary & Germany and this was only after WWII. I’m not sure why but both of us got instilled in us to have a safe. Maybe it was that we picked up on how much can be lost if you don’t have one.

[@ModernRefugee]

Old school wisdom passed on to you, just like me I suppose. Take care.