How the Republic Protects Hyperspace Lanes Without a Navy

[@casbot71]

Chancellor Valorum: The CIS can leave the Republic. Senator Palpatine: ...f__k.

[@isaackim7675]

Darth Binks’ influence was very powerful in giving the Senate more power

[@casbot71]

He is the real Senate, others may just think they are the Senate.

[@BrandonSmith-q5p]

Fake

[@Idkidkidk716]

Lego made a set based off that it’s awesome lol 😂. You mean darth bombad.

[@nunchuckcanuck2827]

Moi bimbad behavior

[@Nodim1er]

This really reminds me of the situation in Italy during the Renaissance and early modern period. No strong government or state army, but bands of mercenaries offering their services to the different powers and city-states. The condottiere, I believe it was called.

[@planet-p6f]

yes - they had a reputation for taking a contract to protect a city from an opposing condottiere - only to then cut a deal whereby both captains would go off and sack both towns. It was the key reason Machiavelli proposed an all volunteer force of reservists from the city itself... sadly they were never implemented well and were often outclassed by hardened professionals.

[@eddapultstab2078]

​@@planet-p6f the person machiavelle wrote it for died a few weeks later if recall correctly. He also never said "mercenaries bad, never hire them", instead he proposed that a standing army can keep mercenaries honest and professional citing England's use, in some cases amounts as much as their fielded army but because of that they will obey orders without significant deviations. Basically don't leave the hired help to their own devices. But because of Italy crippling reliance on mercenaries made it where competent mercenary leaders are heavily kept in suspicion.

[@JordanG4117]

@@eddapultstab2078 I'm taking a class on this period and just finished doing some readings about this exact subject before watching this video lol.

[@casbot71]

Many have had their last mistake being to assume that Obi-Wan won't commit war crimes. It's one of his classic moves.

[@planet-p6f]

Notably the crime of Perfidy... yet another reason not to employ moody space wizards as military commanders.

[@johnpatz8395]

If you use ingenuity, it’s not a war crime the first time. 😁

[@ZikedY]

@@johnpatz8395don't forget, it's not a war crime if you win

[@Matthew-is7zs]

​@@ZikedYthe Jedi lost

[@ZikedY]

@@Matthew-is7zs they did win the clone wars

[@johnfitzgeraldii1952]

How does the saying go... "Those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it."

[@bigwhitehound]

Unfortunately in today's world of "destroy, forget and rewrite" anything in history that in anyway, shape or form, could possibility offend anyone. Most people are willingly forgetting history. I always believe that history exist to be learned from. NOT for you like or dislike.

[@danieldimitrov5997]

I rather prefer L.M. Bujold's paraphase "Those who do not know their history are doomed to keep stepping in it. " It kind of makes the image more vivid.

[@maxo.9928]

They deploy Jeremy Irons to the hyperlanes and he calms everyone down with his soothing voice.

[@guts60]

So badass that he hunted bandits and pirates without any monetary incentive while on guard duty

[@SomeDudeOnYouTube_1]

For as long as the force giveth generation tech I shall consumeth

[@GazingTrandoshan]

Oooo glad you are enjoying the book! Im reading it too, you still NEED to read Rise and Fall of the Galactic empire, starwars fanbase has no idea peak was released if you are REALLY into Andors point blank topics of how facism rises

[@kdusel1991]

For the republic!! Remember good soldiers follow orders!!

[@DominusRexDK]

was looking through parts of the backlog of faction focused videos. and to my suprise there wasn't (at least to what i could find) any video that went into depth on the Mining Guild.

[@jackdbur]

The European and British system was to allow these Privateer captains to sell off the ships & contents they caught "Letters of Marque"

[@marrqi7wini54]

Yep. During those times and likely before, ships were considered extremely valuable prizes and so were their contents. (Spices, gold/silver, slaves, the ship itself.) So back then, in war and regular privateering, you would want to do your best to capture these vessels. Not to mention, the firepower on board wasn't always enough to destroy it so boarding and capturing vessels was highly doable.

[@leftussr]

my favorite channel ever

[@kdkerr2]

I always thought it totally ridiculous that the Galactic Republic had no armed forces at the beginning of the Clone Wars.

[@blackfang101]

I mean to be fair, it wasn't absolutely defanged, they had their "police" forces which in our current society would be somewhere between regular police and peacetime navy patrols. Sure they wouldn't be able to orchestrate a full on war without a momentous effort or calling upon individual member states/volunteers to fill the gap, but for people trespassing where they shouldn't (targets with great value) they were more than enough to see all but the most invested away by force of arms if necessary. Sucks to be a worthless rock on the rim tough.

[@CS-uc2bj]

I, too, think all we need for protection is Jeremy Irons. Enjoyed listening to this topic!

[@Planag7]

Yeah... Caught my attention for sure!!

[@jasonsomers8224]

Palpatine being Valorum's supposed friend makes the vote of no confidence scene so much richer.

[@tickticktickBOOOOM]

"Sorry, buddy, that was all on Queen Amidala, I swear!" - Uncle Sheev

[@AlphariusJingYuan]

Important to say that, though the Sith had their day of revenge, the galactic community at large enjoyed a monumental rate of growth in all sectors. Had the republic continued to maintain its large military after the war, the wartime economy would’ve absolutely shredded the economic development of the republic, thus foregoing any chance of prosperity and stability the galaxy would enjoy a 1000 years later down the line.

[@FullLengthInterstates]

hypotheses like this are why people are terrified of economics as a discipline, but also why economics is so important. Its all trade offs, and trading security for prosperity is something we actually kinda embrace in America.

[@planet-p6f]

in theory - you could impose serious constraints on your military if it was underpinned by a strong treaty, and there was sufficient warning of any unsanctioned military build up. This would be similar to the pre WW2 limits on warship tonnage and fleet size. But it would be highly contingent on the ability of the central government to monitor such things. IRL the League of Nations and the leading powers were unable to prevent such a build up on earth - even a project the size of the Yamato could be hidden from view and info gathering until it was launched. ... i think the idea of achieving something similar in a Galaxy Far Far Away is a stretch. Given that there are whole sectors cut off from senate gaze.

[@jeffreycarman2185]

7:27 if I were a mercenary captain I would only use ion cannons and ion torpedos. So I could capture pirate ships and starfighters to use for my own purposes.

[@Scott-sk1rb]

The Republic had a lot of bad ideas. The New Republic seemed to say "You think those were bad, hold my beer."

[@Hartzilla2007]

To be fair part of it was probably having to unfuck the massive mess the Empire spend twenty years making the galaxy into with said Empire being the last guys to have a massive centralized military which they used to terrorize their own citizens, with the added problem of going from plucky resistance to galactic government.

[@starpilot101]

Love this take, similar to how I interpreted Star Wars politics. A small and decentralized government usually doesn't have enough power to become an oppressive regime, but that lack of power allows other tyrants to fill the vacuum. A government strong enough to protect everyone can easily become authoritarian. What the republic did was maintain a certain level of bureaucratic authority but didn't enforce many important laws. It allowed corporations to freely exploit planets under some technicality (like payment and taxes) while preventing full independence or self funded militarization. It had flaws of both big and small governemnts: the complicated bureaucracy gives authoritarians scaffolding to climb unnoticed while it's lack of real enforcement power allowed criminals and shady corporations to run amok. Palpatine saw this and orchestrated the clone wars. If the republic was more centralized, the whole clones with bio chips scheme wouldn't have worked. Plus, the separatist movement wouldn't have gained as much support if the Republic did their job of dealing with pirates and slavers. If the Republic didn't exist at all or was a very small territory then no matter what Palpatine did, there's not much force for him to commandeer. So much more complicated than a simple "anti authoritarian/fascist/violence" message.

[@jeffreycarman2185]

I think something like the coupling of the European Union and NATO, where each country has military, and they are bound by their alliance to mutual protection.

[@jeffreycarman2185]

One of the other things that caused the Clone Wars was that corporations were allowed to accumulate power and monopolies, and not only were these corporations not regulated sufficiently, these corporate factions were given Senate seats. In a galaxy where one Senator represents an entire sector of space, a single Senate seat is outsized power and influence.

[@depreseo]

To be fair, it's sort of what I was expecting. My interpretation of the demobilisation at the end of the sith wars is less "republic has no armed forces" but more a "each individual fleet, army and fighter core goes back to its respective world/system and takes up its duties there" - which means it was suddenly the decision of individual systems as to what they do with their forces after the sith war... Which was probably heavy demobilisation as they didn't need fleeta these big anymore and needed their citizens to go back to civilian work (so a lot of scrapping for credits).... There's probably a story setting there. The defence coalition seen in the high republic I see as a similar sort of thing as UN peace keeping troops/deployments - all members of the republic can apply... But certain worlds always contributed more than others. But that, by TPM, leads to a situation where, say, Alderan ends up sending more of it's own fleet on deployment while other worlds, such as Corellia and it's larger fleet, sit back and do nothing. So debates rage in the senate as to the need for all Republic worlds to participate, with counter arguments regarding "why should Corellia and it's sizable fleet send it's sons and daughters to die fighting bandits and raiders on a world governed by Ryloth? Surely they can sort their own civil matters out for themselves?" And in the end the arguments blow up into a reality check that "the supreme chancellor of the republic may have the final say in matters discussed in this senate chamber, however he/she has no say on the political machinations and internal decision of the people of Corellia! His/her appointment was never voted by them!" So Corellia looks after Corellia space. Others do the same. And those little newly set-up colony worlds or worlds cut off by their previous overseers are left with no real proffessional defence forces.

[@attila535]

Not the first time we are going down the merc route. The 16th and early 17th centuries were the golden age for mercenaries on Earth.

[@sirguy6678]

Excellent video! So- after every war, the Galaxy Karen’s took power -

[@sundragon7703]

Are mercenary captains members of a guild? One would expect an formal or informal infrastructure as a clearing house for "jobs".

[@bear-7020]

nice video

[@bear8696]

you need more flying cars in your background

[@HalfPraetorian]

Balo sounds like Commandant Gentis. Similar background and defiance against the fledgling Empire.

[@HalfPraetorian]

Commandant Gentis was from Legends, so I'd bet that Balo (sp?) Is made off that character

[@MN2_Kevin_Hill_1970]

❤ good video

[@Hello-bi1pm]

Generation Tech, can you breakdown pre-TPM book politics by the year of publication and how they differ and what common idea unites them? I think we had so many pre-TPM books written in different eras, start with 1998 Ki-Adi-Mundi comic and compare it to Plagueis and other pre-TPM books in terms of what problem they're focusing on the most and give context on the time of the writing of the book

[@travisgames6608]

It was completely idiotic for the Republic NOT to have a standing military. At least each system should have their own military/navy.. With the Republic having a standing military ready.

[@dlennertzdl]

The imperial in the thumbnail looks like a mix of Jeremy Irons and Daniel Day Lewis

[@johannesbowers7467]

Privateers, "Yaaaarrrr" 🏴‍☠️

[@anathardayaldar]

I thought the guy on the thumbnail looked like Jeremy Irons. BUt then I thought he looked like Dwight Schultz (Lieutennant Barclay)

[@Fedaygin]

For the Republic 🙂

[@StallionStudios1234]

Pouw Below or however his name is spelled totally looks like the actor Jeremy Irons.

[@edkwon]

Your background in the apartment you're shooting the video...Vancouver?

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

With knowing how to apply the correct force at the correct time. Edit: they were also not contending with the CIS.

[@tickticktickBOOOOM]

Before WWI, the US Army was a very small force in peacetime, relying on state militias to provide the bulk of manpower when war broke out. The Republic took it even farther and it was more like the US Marshalls getting put in charge of local forces.

[@lerneanlion]

To me, the problem is that the Republic is too large. Less territories means less responsibilities and that also means allowing the other galatic powers to rise as well. And in that case, the Republic will needed to have a military of its own in order to defend its borders from one of these galactic powers that might be hostile to them.

[@eds1942]

One of the problems with using these soldiers of fortune or mercenaries, is that it can never be ruled out that they are the cause for conflicts and instability and how long or bad they get, because,.. they got to make a living and conflict is what they know.

[@CalledTurnAGundam]

Jeremy Irons can protect everything

[@nonyabisness6306]

mon mothma was a pacifist? did anyone tell mon mothma? she's going to be very suprised i imagine coming off of leading an intergalactic armed insurgency that killed millions.

[@xxxthwagdrakexxx4672]

Ah yes let's just leave out the fact that the people they were killing were almost if not are borderline sadists that prided themselves on torturing everything that didnt agree with them and damn near competing on who can cram the most cruelty committed in a human lifetime truly deserving of all the wonderful things life has to follow right?

[@christopherg2347]

And the empire killed billions just on Alderaan.

[@nonyabisness6306]

@@christopherg2347 no one claimed the empire where pacifists.

[@christopherg2347]

@@nonyabisness6306 Weird. Because you claimed Mon Mothma was responsible for "millions killed".

[@nonyabisness6306]

@@christopherg2347 are you mentally deficient? mon mothma was a leader of the rebellion-> the rebellion was an armed insurgency that including the death star killed millions of people-> mon mothma cannot be a pacifist.

[@F0XD1E]

Jeremy Irons would make a good Empire officer.

[@FullLengthInterstates]

who is the galactic highway patrol? who is the space state police

[@LAV-III]

That’s cool and all Allen but have you ever wondered what it’s like to have a fuzzy Harch GF? I mean just imagine getting held in all those arms while she makes that weird clicking sound Everytime she talks.

[@personalgoogleaccount9694]

Whorm Loathsom was a true officer and a gentleman, bringing a level of sophistication and civility to the battlefield, unlike the war criminal Kenobi

[@Ciangottino]

Demilitarization was a terrible mistake, you can never know if a great menace can appear, the unknown regions are filled with horrors and alien empires. the republic became arrogant and this caused lot of trouble, we still need to know how the nihil where defeated.

[@GAJake]

The republic should have kept a small federal military: A small navy of highly advanced starfighter carriers and efficient escort cruisers, and a small marine corps purely to quickly aid republic planets long enough for the republic to create an army. Law enforcement would be left to the judicials.

[@PeterKennedy-b1h]

I love worldbuilding...

[@Vantud391]

What is Jeremy Irons doing here?😂

[@nathanieljackson5554]

The Republic was just to large to be truly effective. There were one million member worlds and 69 million colonies. Even if the Republic had the equivalent of a National Guard it would be nearly impossible to regulate.

[@leechang2870]

No kizzy

[@LeafBoye]

Second:c

[@tavernburner3066]

Tldr mercenaries

[@rabbitknight87]

Not a fan of the new use of generative AI images as part of your videos.

[@kwanarchive]

Probably didn't want to risk getting copyright stricken.

[@Jeffery00cox]

@@kwanarchive all AI is sourced from stolen art. its just a matter of time before all his stuff with AI gets a strike.

[@kwanarchive]

@@Jeffery00cox The KZbin copyright strike system is automated. It doesn't take into account how an image might be trained with copyrighted data.

[@zewps9502]

Yeah, it's disappointing cause like I understand the appeal of being able to quickly and easily make an image to support whatever point you're making, but I also know what it takes to make those generative models. Especially, yknow, in Star Wars. That which has more available images and art than basically any other existing fictional setting.

[@lulkerko1182]

coul u make a podcast?

[@pyeitme508]

BRUH BS! Also prefer Earth in Star Wars...

[@StarkTripod2006]

I wasn't sure if the pictures were ai, wasn't positive, but then I saw him have a butchered Star Wars on his general's tags

[@spark300c]

the stupidest Idea for new republic to reduce it military might so much that first order could come back in force. It crazy that old republic could las with weak military for so long. basically for high republic era the Jedi where military force of the republic. It why when clone wars started they were trapped. it also why the new republic try copy the high republic they failed because they lack 10,000 Jedi to keep the peace.

[@leechang2870]

I’m I first ?

[@andreykuzmin4317]

"Not Galactic, nor Republican, nor a Navy" - Pel Baelo or Gilad Pellaeon, probably.

[@johnshort5830]

Did you tell AI to make Jeremy Irons a Star Wars character? 😂😅

[@dolandarkxgrandayy6953]

Tech is in the slums today.

[@Planag7]

But at least isn't Theory lol

[@SVO-88]

Dude I thought that was Jordan Peterson in the thumbnail at first nearly shit my pants

[@Planag7]

... No. That's the voice of Scar himself! Or the perv from Lolita. Either way

[@SamBoyMassGRW]

First

[@deanthemachine8879]

That AI stuff looks bad and is bad

[@LivingUnderRock]

Is that Jordan Peterson in the thumbnail, no offense but it looks like him

[@johncnorris]

I'm anti-fundamental services. If a newly orphaned baby can't get a job and pay rent then that's just too bad. Little moochers should have worked that out when they were zygotes!

[@mtzzero]

Ah the Republic, the worst attributes of libertarianism and over-democratization/decentralization all rolled up in one

[@SomeTheorist9090]

Wait... 2:34 ... there is public Bugatti transportation?