i doubt snoop hates the flow. he just hates that everyone abused of it.
@revoksixth6907 жыл бұрын
Brook Rivers and on top of that has no substance most of the time
@jacoblong35417 жыл бұрын
Brook Rivers Any legitimate musician knows what a triplet is lmao. You learn a triplet within 2 months of 6th grade band
@podisthebomb17 жыл бұрын
He was talking more on the mumble rap and not the beat behind it
@thesechicksdontevenknowthe32987 жыл бұрын
Right. She says he missed the point she missed his point something is less and less powerful as it becomes more used
@Humble_King_Ali7 жыл бұрын
I know...like we'll never know any other sounds if people just riding on the same style.
@jesseluke57987 жыл бұрын
That's it right there. Kendrick and Chance use that flow sparingly, as a tool. It builds and hypes their songs when it's needed But when rappers use it every single song for the entirety of those songs it really quickly gets monotonous.
@sirfrancisdrake14727 жыл бұрын
Word
@IndomitableAde7 жыл бұрын
jesseluke It's that and it's the content. Triplet flow is fine but when it's all choppers, drugs and hoes that's where monotony and banality step in. I'm like, damn, go someplace in the world besides a strip club or a trap house and tell me what that looks like, please!
@TheMuse2607 жыл бұрын
jesseluke When its 100% triplets, its trash. Lil pump,migos, future, gucci, 21 are all triplets
@sione_etc7 жыл бұрын
i mean you could also say it's monotonous how other rappers mostly rap on eighth notes, or how everyone uses 808s, pentatonic scales, 4/4 timing. it's just a style, you don't have to be into it but there's no right or wrong way to do it
@Portarius19847 жыл бұрын
jesseluke Exactly.
@briantriplett59745 жыл бұрын
my name is brian triplett and i approve this message.
@cokguzeladam4 жыл бұрын
my name is brad harper and I subscribed to you
@Jackson-mi3dr4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian
@nagnot67184 жыл бұрын
Nice, I was looking through all the comments for your critical approval.
@driziiD4 жыл бұрын
😂 the culprit
@nothingmuch11294 жыл бұрын
I am the 555th like
@JPLToyExperience6 жыл бұрын
Mah man Beethoven was rockin' triplets before these new rappers
@yungjoemighty8796 жыл бұрын
where's the remix?
@jdavidmoreiraify6 жыл бұрын
Imma say it Beethovan is damn good Also like a lot of his stuff played on electric guitars
@pork51295 жыл бұрын
yo what about also sprach zarathustra opening, them timpanis ooooh
@बेन्ज़ोसएम्पेरोर्5 жыл бұрын
yeah man, Beethoven is so damn hard, his song no heart is fire
@matheusdahora19165 жыл бұрын
Homer has been doin it since 1000 bC lol
@juvailpecson62357 жыл бұрын
Snoop wasn't against the style and flow in triplets he was against how rappers today all sounds the same!
@GotNextVideo6 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Back in the 90s when Snoop came up, rappers switched their flow up from bar to bar, they didn't just hammer the same exact same cadence in every line of every song.
@DougM_BDXL6 жыл бұрын
...and they ain't saying much lyrically. Just look at Lil Pump, Yachty, Uzi Vert, etc... Shallow AF with the words.
@seishin42436 жыл бұрын
As it was said, the problem for Snoop it's not the triplets, but, apart from not liking and criticising they all sound the same, he was also against that Versace/Migos flow, because, in that same show, he says someone told to him on a studio to try that and he responded by saying no, he doesn't "rap like that" and it's fair for him to not like it, even if that always existed.
@sigbrotum21916 жыл бұрын
you have a stupid name shithole
@joeyclemenza73396 жыл бұрын
Juvail Pecson she never said he was against the flow!!!
@isaaccedeno17 жыл бұрын
More of these music episodes please
@ananimeplace.38087 жыл бұрын
Isaac Cedeno honestly
@mr.advocatusdiaboli17457 жыл бұрын
Isaac Cedeno but with good music instead of the cold play of hip hop
@carlmojica7 жыл бұрын
Different genres would be perfect too
@dizzybear74727 жыл бұрын
This topic is far superior to politics so more would be nice
@pabloarranz36267 жыл бұрын
Isaac Cedeno they've done a bunch of these already
@slycooper52787 жыл бұрын
Snoop dog explaining it was priceless XD
@krusher1817 жыл бұрын
First time I've heard him sound like an old man lol. Not knocking him, but yeah.
@christopherantimie16137 жыл бұрын
Monk Killedababy In the actual video he wasn't criticizing the style itself, but rather that so many rappers sound the same today. He does a better job of explaining it but that's the general idea.
@DRsideburns7 жыл бұрын
I mean Snoop's almost 50 years old. He's getting there
@ADunnMusic7 жыл бұрын
Sly Cooper ecks dee
@topcat88047 жыл бұрын
I thought it was Stevie Wonder
@mikeytodorov1342 жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace to the youngest triplet 😔
@zackphilo3690 Жыл бұрын
man that was deep
@dellayassine7 жыл бұрын
Love everything being said here; but I think *you've* missed Uncle Snoop's point. He's not against the flow, he's against the fact that *every* damn rapper is using it; and I agree with him on that.
@co63187 жыл бұрын
Della Yassine well get used to it because back in the old days people were using the same flows, so dont hate
@simonriley9837 жыл бұрын
+MC Huncho 😬
@Coffelt20307 жыл бұрын
MC Huncho way to be progressive and original huehue
@nooser6647 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking
@hilbert17 жыл бұрын
I agree snoop is right these idiots all spitting gibiresh and people call it music stupid sheeps
@7izkewl77 жыл бұрын
Snoop is a true musician and probably knows what a damn triplet is. All he's tryna say is that rappers nowadays should get their own damn identity instead of copying whatever the hot style is (mumbling triplets ATM).
@geneparmesan87487 жыл бұрын
I doubt he's complaining about the triplets themselves, more probably about how hard they make the subject to understand. The "mumble rap" he's referencing today comes by its nickname honestly.
@faizperdana73517 жыл бұрын
snoop actually hated the "mumble rap with the damn triplets" style, almost everyone use it
@DefenestrateYourself7 жыл бұрын
He's also got a trained bank account that will always outshine yours. Don't feel too bad though.
@stockicide7 жыл бұрын
"he isn't a musician, he just raps" Rap is music. Rappers are musicians. Why are you even watching a video about rap music if you don't consider rappers to be musicians?
@stockicide7 жыл бұрын
Fair enough.
@rappadapp7 жыл бұрын
huh huh wah heh heh hey he he he ha ha ha ho ho ho huh hah huh - Migos
@SevenFootPelican7 жыл бұрын
Adorable dog
@TheLegend-gz2ys7 жыл бұрын
AYYYY TURN UP
@alantje_68847 жыл бұрын
Yeah that way
@justnick477 жыл бұрын
u clearly don't listen to migos.....
@55lumens7 жыл бұрын
Rap Is Not Dead u clearly didn't watch the video.....
@pimas112 жыл бұрын
Three Six Mafia is really the master of this flow enough where it impacted much of the rap after them in the 90s
@333SOULJAA11 ай бұрын
Yea but of course people love the overrated mainstream fools more, 3-6 needs its recognition
@Braineaters811 ай бұрын
@@333SOULJAAReal playas in tha South recognizes them
@Chandasouk7 жыл бұрын
*mimics Snoop Dogg mimicking the Migos flow*
@synthdott79547 жыл бұрын
Chandasouk *gets double platinum in a month*
@MrJerryman137 жыл бұрын
hashtagSHREKT Lmfao
@sirfrancisdrake14727 жыл бұрын
Chandasouk snoop spitting the truth
@nobodyknowsforsure7 жыл бұрын
they are lucky. society is dumbed down enough for this to be acceptable rap... what's next? do a rap with the word cabbage??
@vasco.3647 жыл бұрын
killakaynyne thanks for the idea!
@aikoblissponce7 жыл бұрын
i agree with snoop. every song on the radio now is overwhelming homogeneous, i can’t even tell which song is which anymore.
@Zayvoxk6 жыл бұрын
PSYCHO you mean *almost every*
@skysten26056 жыл бұрын
This is how people describe music they're not into. When I was into techno, people would say it just goes doof food doof but I could find plenty of variety in it. Now I agree with them 😂
@ecoRfan6 жыл бұрын
Sadly it’s been that way for many decades, but only accelerated within the last 15 years.
@wizcombo6 жыл бұрын
If you can’t tell the variation of songs idk if you are “hip pop”. It’s the relation and mood to every song that discerns it from one another. Listen more and understand more!
@yungjoemighty8796 жыл бұрын
lol they literally feature a young thug track with him on it in the video
@mikkyd99897 жыл бұрын
Vox's rap videos are rare but always the best
@joon_lagoon16 жыл бұрын
Actually Lord Infamous created the flow back in 89 so you know R.I.P Scarecrow
@onesyphorus4 жыл бұрын
89? *89* !? pleaae, I beg of you, to list what this song possibly may be. I've heard others and was like naaah I doubt it. but now I'm curious
@ProdByGuero4 жыл бұрын
@@onesyphorus Check Out The DJ Paul Lord Infamous Tape " Da Serial Killaz"
@MrRickypt4 жыл бұрын
@@ProdByGuero That's from 1992 though. Memphis rap actually predates back to 1989 or 1990, but it was mainly DJ mixes. Only after that they started to rap on the beats.
@ProdByGuero4 жыл бұрын
@@MrRickypt Yessir, Dj BK, SpanishFly N Them
@neeyku7 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Snoop knows what triplets are. So, in that case, he's probably not missing the point, rather, he's frustrated by the same execution of triplets in modern rap - and he's not the only one.
@neeyku7 жыл бұрын
Otherwise, great episode.
@bombpenguin297 жыл бұрын
correct. She did miss his point.
@marbar28887 жыл бұрын
Well said mate.
@shortyrags7 жыл бұрын
How? She simply pointed out that Snoop doesn't like the fact that the style is being overused in a one dimensional way.
@TheP3rspective7 жыл бұрын
I believe Snoop was more or less talking about how they all mumble and you can't hear the lyrics, rather than the triplets style.
@FromNothingICome7 жыл бұрын
I think the real issue here isn't the use of triplets, so much as the subtle wordplay, stunning lyricism, and even social commentary that can be found in powerful lyrics like: "Versace Versace Versace Versace Versace Versace Versace Versace."
@wanderingcantos6 жыл бұрын
LOL
@ApsaraMenaka6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@yungjoemighty8796 жыл бұрын
lol they literally feature a young thug track with him on it in the video
@YourMajesty1435 жыл бұрын
Lmao you almost had me
@GRABA855 жыл бұрын
You just don't get it - it's a pokemon rap.
@KingRiguez7 жыл бұрын
Tbh. Someone who isn't musically aware of stuff like this in rap. That was some huge insight. I liked the video a lot. Thanks for the info 😁
@JorgeOrtiz-fu5lt7 жыл бұрын
King Riguez Is your profile pic from one of the Tokyo Xtreme Racer Drift games?
@KingRiguez7 жыл бұрын
Jorge Ortiz lol I think so. I can't remember
@zelle54187 жыл бұрын
King Riguez plz don’t go and listen to this fake rap
@boreezy75536 жыл бұрын
Guys rap or rapping is a technique, but the music style is Hip Hop. It's like Pop or Rock are music styles but singing is the technique of delivery of the lyrics.
@Rosaceae15 жыл бұрын
Until I hear verses in quintuplets and septuplets, I'm unsatisfied.
@mikebarnes74414 жыл бұрын
University, University I never went to University (Repeat x15)
@Doctagreedy14 жыл бұрын
Eminem Godzilla
@onesyphorus4 жыл бұрын
YES!
@onesyphorus4 жыл бұрын
add nonuplets, decuplets, undecuplets aswell...
@denaroondatrack9284 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@PropKnucklesFPV7 жыл бұрын
As a percussionist, or just a musician in general... why is this so amazing or interesting? Snoop didn't miss the point. He knows they're all the same
@Ryan-si8om7 жыл бұрын
Lol It's like the masses finally found out about time signatures and tempos.
@steveguacamole30987 жыл бұрын
I️ am as well, always wondered about that. I just have to laugh when people say that rappers have so much rhythm!
@BigDaddyWes7 жыл бұрын
Because the majority of music listeners don't really know anything about music. And, that's okay. But, yes, as someone who understands rhythm on any sort of level this video is pretty pointless.
@BigDaddyWes7 жыл бұрын
2342315313531451345 15135431543154315315431 he's referring to how revolutionary the video makes triplets out to be. Yeah, it sounds cool, but vox is like GAME CHANGING TRIPLETS
@PropKnucklesFPV7 жыл бұрын
Wes Tolson thank you, lol
@dnl_lcknr6907 жыл бұрын
Kendrick also uses triplets in the intro to Humble with “Nobody pray for me, Even a day for me”. Combined with the big bass notes builds a lot of hype.
@supashep17 жыл бұрын
LaucknerTheNerd "whaaaa, ya ya"
@JUSTREGULARSCREAMINGAAHH4 ай бұрын
yeah but he does a different beat too
@auseybadass44015 жыл бұрын
it will forever be the Memphis flow perfected by lord infamous R.I.P
@SlyMonie5 жыл бұрын
Memphis pioneered trap and the flows
@KitimatGooner7 жыл бұрын
*_Hey, Versace! Michael here._*
@michaelgriggs78397 жыл бұрын
KitimatGooner Michael*
@George_Bland7 жыл бұрын
I saw that to!
@MystiqMiu7 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@VocalMusicMinority7 жыл бұрын
Do one on Andre 3000s flow. I've been fascinated with why his sound stands out forever
@EoinForTheWin7 жыл бұрын
Matthew Fornear look up composers corner he analyses it
@retayuan1237 жыл бұрын
Can't seem to find the video, can you link it?
@kilbankilban64657 жыл бұрын
Eoin Byrne please, can you post a link?
@nikk7967 жыл бұрын
He's flow on E.T.(Extraterrestrial), A life in the day of Andre Benjamin and Aquemini always amazes me
@kobil316SH7 жыл бұрын
Kilban Kilban you can search it yourself
@sudeep67166 жыл бұрын
Snoop not against triplets, he's against artists who use triplets(trap) with no originality
@milanomartin54176 жыл бұрын
i read this in the THICKEST Indian accent. lol
@nediareyaprostovodospady6 жыл бұрын
But trap is original. It's original for Atlanta rappers
@soccerlegend77745 жыл бұрын
@@milanomartin5417 bruh
@Feenyxxx954 жыл бұрын
@@milanomartin5417 you messed around and put me right into a good mood with that laugh
@SlyMonie4 жыл бұрын
I mean how do you make it original? its been copied and pasted so many times its saturated the hip hop community.
@bean32432 жыл бұрын
RIP Takeoff, if he didn't invent it, he perfected it and spread it. Even if you hate it, it's an addicting flow and great to listen to, old heads are just mad their lyrical miracles don't work anymore.
@yugoshine55932 жыл бұрын
He invented it
@Thedeathdump2 жыл бұрын
@@yugoshine5593 they also invented mumble rap 😂
@pulluponkhaleeq2 жыл бұрын
He did invent Offset and Quavo said he did
@JDeep722 жыл бұрын
@@Thedeathdump found the logic fan
@user-lf4qb5dw1z2 жыл бұрын
@@Thedeathdump big nathan moment
@hightide95137 жыл бұрын
The reason everyone is writing in trips is because it's easy. It's easy to flow and sound good. Eventually it will be played out and people will have to be creative again.
@IzzytheEgyptianVulture7 жыл бұрын
High Tide you're wrong, it's no easier than any other style.
@massimomuntoni937 жыл бұрын
+Izzy the Egyptian Vulture He probably means that if you can rap you can easily go with triplets not making an effort to be creative because they just sound good, personally that style is just corny and played out to me
@angelrangel42057 жыл бұрын
Daniel Mendoza hell nooooooo. Anyone thinks like that should have their ears slit
@hightide95137 жыл бұрын
Anthony Rios I'm sorry but you're wrong. Writing in trips is 2 dimensional. It's why they do it. Write some BS, time it in trips. Doesn't matter if it rhymes, doesn't matter if it sounds good. You don't have to annunciate words. You don't even have to worry about cadence. I'm not scared of change. I'm scared of BAD change.
@balance38097 жыл бұрын
I dont think so its been bere since the 90s
@ThisIsTeeKay7 жыл бұрын
Great to see someone really dive deep into this trend! I absolutely love these videos (even if I don't agree with the conclusion)
@krusher1817 жыл бұрын
I agree. It's informative/thought provoking, even if the conclusion is a bit weird.
@fede0187 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with the conclusion?
@Anthropomorphic7 жыл бұрын
Snoop said that everyone's trying to sound the same and that that's bad. The video says that Snoop missed the point because triplets are useful and old, but that doesn't deal with Snoop's actual criticism: everyone's trying to sound the same and that's bad.
@harperl27 жыл бұрын
Lifragen Exactly, I doubt he was meaning to speak on the technicality of the beats and more-so the content and sameness of Trap artists. I know I'm tired of hearing about Popping pills, cars, and shallow content of Trap artists in general. I respect the Hustle and if I could make good money rapping about cough medicine I would. I just can't get behind their products. They usually don't have anything to say. Hell, I don't mind listening to B.O.B. He at least has interesting things to say. (Albeit, crazy conspiracy theories).
@vukaleksic35507 жыл бұрын
lmao as if snoop's content was ever any different. instead of popping pills cars and shallow content it's weed, cars and shallow content. get off your high horse
@animec-dramaskpop63627 жыл бұрын
These videos need to be longer goddammit, and more frequent. Why y'all like playin with my emotions?
@Nickademas17 жыл бұрын
Kassie Mitchell scarcity in supply and demand is an important asset for maintaining buzz. Too much of anything is never good. Inspires apathy.
@willquoikapor7 жыл бұрын
Big perm, I mean big worm.
@592sunrise7 жыл бұрын
Kassie Mitchell excellent reporting to englighten us
@Xavio3547 жыл бұрын
W
@SILK976 жыл бұрын
afro curly girl I know it’s a year old comment, but it also can’t be easy to put these typa vids together
@Erik-yt8qb5 жыл бұрын
The triplet flow was perfected by three six mafia’s lord infamous and is responsible for every popular rapper in the game today
@therealkcmill28775 жыл бұрын
Rip scarecrow
@discowolf255 жыл бұрын
If you don’t know this: you don’t know rap. Period. Thank god we got seedof6ix. sounds exactly like his dad.
@mikebarnes74414 жыл бұрын
That marked the day rap died then
@onesyphorus4 жыл бұрын
**Tommy Wright iii. yes. LI was one of the early users of the flow but Tommy did it when he was in the 9th / 10th grade, making trap aswell, it's origins formed in around '91-'92
@Luka-vl3wj4 жыл бұрын
3 6 mafia's influence on this new rap game is underrated asf. $uicideboy$ are heavily inspired by them aswell.
@DatDaDatty7 жыл бұрын
producers are the ones making the song good
@distorted3037 жыл бұрын
marketing is what makes a song good. bazinga
@zain35507 жыл бұрын
Dat there are plenty of artists that Metro and Zaytoven produced for that are not famous at all so try again.
@2starSwelling7 жыл бұрын
Big Worm there not the only producers that know how to make good beats ... like at Mongolia from carti it's the reason it's "catchy " really .
@abelmendoza4917 жыл бұрын
Dat some don't get credit for their work
@Christheawsome37 жыл бұрын
Rappers are more like public figures rather musical artists. That's why most artist are good looking. The producers make the songs sound good.
@Bhunibelza7 жыл бұрын
I love thiese Vox music videos.
@Tsukiko.977 жыл бұрын
I hate thiese Vox music videos.
@12shivansh7 жыл бұрын
ok
@Vanguardkl7 жыл бұрын
Bhuni Be Only a white young girl would feel the need to break down hip hop, 1. To tell other people that she "gets" it , 2. To whitesplain to other white people that hip hop is complex enough for white people to listen to.
@ashtreylil17 жыл бұрын
O K what does music theory have to do with race? Stop making unrelated stuff about race. There are plenty of channels with black people going over verses and theory as well. Just enjoy the creativity, rap isn't just lyrics and a beat. The flow combined with that is what makes verses hot.
@RiskyRich_Gaming7 жыл бұрын
O K I know right. When rappers rap, they just go. Instrumentals to a rapper is like a green light. U see that green u just step on the gas.
@GABA-Gool7 жыл бұрын
Triplets in the eras you're talking about, were backed up with rapid fire delivery; flow versatility, punchlines, vocabulary, stories, meaning, etc. Today it's one word stretched out to make it a triplet, then a line or two about lean and back to the same word. World of difference. It's not really what you do, it's how you do it.
@benjaminlam35145 жыл бұрын
The triplet flow is honestly perfect for lyrical rap: using straight eighth notes to rap seems kind of slow, and rapping to sixteenth notes is difficult to do at faster tempos. So the triplet flow is like a happy medium.
@DivoCapella2 жыл бұрын
It exactly is man. As a person who loves music, I understood that statement clearly.
@olivercharles2930 Жыл бұрын
Disagreed.
@osiris50777 жыл бұрын
I don’t think snoop was only referring to the fact they all rap in triplets I took it as if he was trying to say that half of these rappers don’t make sense of their words.
@danielkarlsen25457 жыл бұрын
v.gautreaux exactly. You want some lyrical content ffs🖑
@romeofabian64197 жыл бұрын
You don't make sense of your words.
@clever-username7 жыл бұрын
in poetry triplets are called dactyls and anapests
@_yellow7 жыл бұрын
Ben Dover You know, that's cool and all, but I'm probably going to forget it within the end of this video.
@FreestyleEntOnline7 жыл бұрын
are you sure about this ?
@tobiastomitzek30867 жыл бұрын
Alright. And what now?
@insidiouslol26827 жыл бұрын
Ben Dover damn man you're pretty cool
@Zer-mz4rw7 жыл бұрын
I learned something new today. Thanks I guess.
@peachcap35157 жыл бұрын
How 3 6 Mafia influenced every modern mainstream hip hop artist
@hakaishsu31166 жыл бұрын
And underground
@bigbobbybitch29616 жыл бұрын
a jewish bar of soap lord infamous
@MyFavoriteRapper6 жыл бұрын
@a jewish bar of soap Bone Thugs 👀
@lee_drifting6 жыл бұрын
@a jewish bar of soap wrong, it was a misunderstanding that memphis artists and bone had beef. they both have the same triplets element and "devlish" sound in the 90s, dont mean bone bit memphis and this is coming from someone that loves memphis rap. even dj paul said it was a misunderstanding. midwest and south have connections musically
@MyFavoriteRapper6 жыл бұрын
@a jewish bar of soap Bone dropped their underground album in 1993 though 👀
@danielbico14162 жыл бұрын
RIP TAKEOFF, THE ONE THAT PUT TRIPLET FLOW ON THE MAP
@homestarflyerify7 жыл бұрын
Triplets are in no way complex. It is a basic element of music. Snoop doesn't miss the point, he was making his own point. It's totally unoriginal. When metal musicians over use triplets it gets tired, when jazz overdoes them the same. It's tired, overwrought, and lazy at the same time. Go back to your favorite song, "Notorious Thugs". There were triplets in there. But they were one element of the composition. What if a rapper only hit whole notes? Well, if done right that could sound cool, but then if every song he did and every song his peers did all were done in the rhythm of whole notes only...? For the majority of this wave, it's a crutch and a way to seem deep or more complex than they are. The reality is that a triplet is an elementary device, not an evolved or epic one. Musicians see right through the gimmick. Lamar, Run the Jules, and many others can do them well... only because they use them tactfully.
@MyFavoriteRapper6 жыл бұрын
That's because Bone Thugs go hard and they're about more musical elements than just triplets
@yungjoemighty8796 жыл бұрын
sounds about white
@MyFavoriteRapper6 жыл бұрын
@@yungjoemighty879 Or just sounds like knowledge of music...? 😂
@digable_celestial_dwarfs67785 жыл бұрын
Came here to make this exact point so thank you for nailing it.
@glowingfish5 жыл бұрын
Speaking of only hitting hole notes... KRS-One did a song where each line ended with "whole", "hole" or "hold", and come to think of it, maybe he was using whole notes?
@lucozade83737 жыл бұрын
Notorious Thugs also one of my fave songs of all time. Under utilised in Hip Hop culture!!
@MyFavoriteRapper7 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody knows wassup!
@TURK_1827 жыл бұрын
The golden era of rap! Both of thoes sings sound totally different this migos flow all sounds the same
@jaimewilson36447 жыл бұрын
not really each artist uses the triplet flow differently
@user-hy6hi7fg5m7 жыл бұрын
Listen to Glorious Thugs by the Flatbush ZOMBiES you'll probably like that one 😘
@MickeyMea7 жыл бұрын
illmaculate is still under their radar smh
@samguy76547 жыл бұрын
THIS is why I subscribed to this channel in the first place.
@eee70217 жыл бұрын
Jj
@zachevans8515 жыл бұрын
Lord infamous was the originator but when he spit triplets is was 🔥
@BrokenDarknessfilms7 жыл бұрын
Great video, but I don't think Snoop is quite missing the point. Despite the power triplets have as a rhythmic tool, it is getting to the point where it may be slightly overused and that's what I believe his comment is about. I'm okay to hear it here and there but all the time? No thanks.
@johnyaurimo17207 жыл бұрын
Nerdy Potato In the video, Snoop wasn't talking about triplet when he says it all sounds the same. He was referring to mumble rap in general (mamammahuahvsuuajak)
@BombDaBase17 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's when it all starts to "sound the same"
@xoreign7 жыл бұрын
John Yaurimo And it's that sound that is in triplets ALL the time.
@BrokenDarknessfilms7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, completely agree. I think the mumbling was an important factor in his point which I forgot to mention. But I think the overuse of the triplet flow was also part of his comment.
@thema19987 жыл бұрын
Nerdy Potato This video gave me a better understanding of the triplet flow. It's not a bad thing. What is bad is that everyone is doing it. They end up sounding the same.
@DaDesiDon17 жыл бұрын
Lord infamous flow
@burakbasal19077 жыл бұрын
Benzo Bucks V12 i was lookig for this comment right when I saw the title
@roxch7 жыл бұрын
R.I.P.
@lilbeviltwin7 жыл бұрын
R.I.P the rowdy bounty hunter the scarecrow.
@trDewy7 жыл бұрын
Infamous flow > Disney Channel flow
@CrazyAmericanHacker7 жыл бұрын
Benzo Bucks V12 yes bruhhh.
@BrandMath-ns5yc7 жыл бұрын
My man Justin Hunte is finally getting his well deserved recognition
@axelluka2472 жыл бұрын
Takeoff really took this triplet flow to another level. Fly high 🕊
@PixelPickaxe7 жыл бұрын
I prefer how the nineties used the triplets over newer adaptations.
@TickingClocks7 жыл бұрын
PixelPickaxe they sound exactly the same and are used exactly the same. the only concrete difference is how overused it is these days (unless that's what you meant, in which case carry on!)
@PixelPickaxe7 жыл бұрын
No, I really can't hear the similarity/Just haven't picked up on it yet.
@dundee64027 жыл бұрын
Lol, it's the exact same. The only different thing is it wasn't just as common as it is today, and that trap didn't exist back then
@jerzyb0rn7 жыл бұрын
Because it was used lessed so it contrasted the flow of the rest of the rhythm. Maybe itd be used for only a few bars a song, so it gave that section a bit of a spotlight. Now its just constant so it looses its "woah this is a switch up" feel
@kiddfromla7 жыл бұрын
Johtonian the trap has always existed . Its just that “they” didn’t see a reason reason to market it . and now its all you hear , its all were going to hear until they find another thing to market .
@yoelhernandezwaber75077 жыл бұрын
Snoop explains in a very simple example what is wrong with Trap music. He is not mocking the use of triplets. He is mocking the combination of an overuse of triplets, paired with a lack of variation in musical aesthetic. Trap music sounds the same because literally EVERYTHING they say is either a triplet or some "rah"/"wooh" etc. They all shoot for exactly the same sound, from flow, tone of voice and lyrical structure all the way to their beat composition. Triplets offer so many possibilities using different accents, or even things like sextuplets (which essentially are 2 triplets subdivided into 3 groups of 2, instead of two groups of 3), but what makes them so amazing is the variation they can offer. That´s exactly what makes biggies flow so incredibly smooth. Also Trap lyrics are straight up garbage.
@lillevi4447 жыл бұрын
Yoel Hernandez Waber cause literally anybody other than 2pac and biggies lyrics in the 90’s were so much better than the trap artists lyrics
@yoelhernandezwaber75077 жыл бұрын
Kollector I'm not saying you can't have good music with trash lyrics, but if your lyrics suck and your sound is repetitive and indistinguishable from other artists there is nothing to listen to
@lillevi4447 жыл бұрын
Yoel Hernandez Waber ik what youre saying but thats how all rap always was most artists sounded the same and their styles rarely varied
@yoelhernandezwaber75077 жыл бұрын
Kollector One of the reasons why I only listen to a few selected hip hop artists and usually prefer other genres
@0mgskillz967 жыл бұрын
Kollector u aint done ur research sayin rappers always sounded the same, in the golden era almost every rapper had differences in word choices, metaphors, song topics and flows and the most important thing everyone had originality and those that didnt wouldnt get recognition, u can hear the individualistic properties in their songs when again most of this generations music are so similar that its so boring to listen to, im not sayin every rapper in the 80s-90s were great but cmon to compare the music of this era to that era (mainstream or underground), its blasphemous if u are really passionate towards hip hop
@Adaminski1117 жыл бұрын
These type of vids is the reason I’m subscribed to vox
@ravencherokee2 жыл бұрын
So sad. REST in Peace, TakeOff.
@thu6muff1n7 жыл бұрын
These videos are incredible
@davidstoneback61597 жыл бұрын
Snoop wasn't just talking about the triplets. He was reffering to the mumbling and the production as well.
@kelechin.19777 жыл бұрын
David Stoneback no he was just talking about the flow
@ThaBeast123a7 жыл бұрын
David Stoneback He was directly talking about triplets
@Keesha_Hardy7 жыл бұрын
David Stoneback People only call it mumbling because of their accents.
@michaelgomez49947 жыл бұрын
Docbndgrl9113 what accent makes you mumble they choose to pronounce words that way. Plus there from the USA not nigeria no reason to mumble
@bunbundabunni38437 жыл бұрын
The mumble, and the extra exclamation! on the first or last syllable. Yeah, triplets are okay, but you can do triplets differently. The new songs aren't doing that.
@faithfuljohn7 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with you about Snoop missing the point. Although Triplets are one aspect to flow & music, the problem isn't that they are here. The problem is that everyone sounds the same. Part of what makes music sound good is the unexpected. When everyone does it ALL the time in all songs, it starts to become boring. And boring is the worst thing you can be in rap. It'd be like every song started exactly like Moonlight Sonata did. It'd get boring
@drewb57757 жыл бұрын
agreed Snoop was probably high and couldn't communicate his point very well.
@jordanpeakofficial7 жыл бұрын
faithfuljohn EXACTLY
@Nuurix7 жыл бұрын
well back in the days almost any rapper sounded the same as well... they use the same type of flows as any other artist, nothing changed much
@BobKBeats7 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@SpaceGhostFan7 жыл бұрын
faithfuljohn Great point
@mamagoosey3 жыл бұрын
0:37 Don't mind me, just placing a replay button.
@Bergerac827 жыл бұрын
Great video, BUT I don't think Snoop missed the point at all. He's right, everyone rapping exclusively in triplets does kinda sound the same. The serious talents like Chance and Kendrick are using triplets as just another tool in their arsenal and a way to switch things up and add drama, while the rest use it as a crutch. Take away the triplets and Chance and Kendrick still kill, but Migos and Future don't have much else.
@EmbassyNerdcore7 жыл бұрын
Don't have much else??? WTF Migos and Future CLEARLY also have SHITTY AUTO TUNED SINGING to fall back on.
@mrwavez99407 жыл бұрын
Adam Gordon that makes no sense lmao
@Bergerac827 жыл бұрын
There is a difference between you not understanding, and something making no sense...
@geoffreyboener7 жыл бұрын
They have one thing else. The instrumentals are sick. But, most of the time that's the producers and not the rappers themselves.
@BruceWayne-io2fz7 жыл бұрын
ironically theres 3 migos
@skrtreynolds7 жыл бұрын
Bruce Wayne and they all trash lol
@nathanrelph35237 жыл бұрын
Grizzly Machismo I'll drink to that
@SpooksMcGhie7 жыл бұрын
#mindblown
@RobertoWCruz7 жыл бұрын
That's not irony
@thema19986 жыл бұрын
Grizzly Machismo The only song from Migos I can tolerate is "Stir Fry" and that's only because of the production.
@TSANOOvlogs7 жыл бұрын
Thing is, for me Kendrick and Chance use triplets so much better because it is delicate, purposeful and mostly used as beaming spotlight instead of a driving force in the song
@TSANOOvlogs7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video again by the way
@johnberry26787 жыл бұрын
Eh, that sounds a bit pretentious. But I understand you don't wanna associate your favs w/ those "low class mumble rappers"
@TSANOOvlogs7 жыл бұрын
John Berry that's not necessarily it, it's just that I dislike the constant stream of triplets at the same speed and intervals. Still, a stadium filling artist like Migos isn't "low class"
@Keesha_Hardy7 жыл бұрын
Tomas Noordsij that's the thing, they aren't southern and don't have that accent, that's why people think the southern rappers who use triplet flow are mumbling. Trust me, my cousin goes to school down there and many people talk like that. Migos has the best triplet flow to me, especially Takeoff.
@sirfrancisdrake14727 жыл бұрын
Kendrick only one moving hip hop forward
@FlipStar263 жыл бұрын
Love it when they deconstruct the art of rhyming and flowing like that 😎
@chuzzywuzzy7 жыл бұрын
Please continue this series for many more episodes!! No other channel on youtube is putting out such high quality videos deconstructing music
@Tentacular7 жыл бұрын
I love this series, bringing out the science behind good music, and in such a lovable way.
@DizzyDenver7 жыл бұрын
Triplets can be great, I'm just not tryna hear it in every single song I listen to, mix it in not flood it
@Nightshade18817 жыл бұрын
DizzyDenver that's what annoys me with triplets today. They don't change it up Bone thugs Mixed triplets with quarter notes and half notes just how they explained in the video Using slow sounding beats so they can have enough time to play with all these note lengths
@pyrotechnic967 жыл бұрын
DizzyDenver yeah I feel the same way. They're really good as a spot flow to ramp up the energy of a song like chance and kendrick do but if it's the basis of your entire sound I kinda have a problem with it. The first thing I thought of with triplets and rap was the drums in black skinhead, even if it's not rapping they definitely have the same sort of effect
@TheLuismaBeaTle7 жыл бұрын
DizzyDenver exactly the two examples she gave were good, specially the one from Kendrick. It feels good, but not when the whole song is in friggin triplets like take a break dude breathe
@mariokarter137 жыл бұрын
Triplets are effective because they break up the standard note pattern, when triplets ARE the standard note pattern they become just as monotonous.
@krusher1817 жыл бұрын
That's my favorite part of Scrim from Suicide Boys, he raps more old school and then Ruby raps much more like 3 6 Mafia
@stanleyjohanson67202 жыл бұрын
RIP Takeoff, he has changed the rap world with Migos.
@noname-zu5nl7 жыл бұрын
Memphis sounded better using that flow.
@h2jkfvhdhnenrjf4 жыл бұрын
South and Midwest own it
@chadbritton93843 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Lord Infamous
@colton73733 жыл бұрын
True, they used to use way more variation with this as well
@theligmaballsprank20113 жыл бұрын
horrorcore best
@blackpanzerkampfwagen85143 жыл бұрын
R.i.P Scarecrow & Koop
@philippplein49747 жыл бұрын
*the Beats took over rap. Without those catchy beats with those fire drums rap today wouldnt be so big. Shoutout to all PRODUCERS !!
@masonlevasseur20657 жыл бұрын
philipp plein ay
@JackIsNotSpanish7 жыл бұрын
tru
@lordspirit76557 жыл бұрын
DRUMLINE!!!!! (Pulls out Chicago Typewriter)
@valdyvalere53747 жыл бұрын
philipp plein Word up! 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
@OMGKENNY7 жыл бұрын
💯
@naturesinterface66636 жыл бұрын
the beat analysis at around 4:45 is just wrong. the guy beatboxes two bars in the first example, one bar in the second. if the first example is forcibly interpreted as one bar, that puts the snare on the "ands", which is not hip-hop. the biggie track is not 154 bpm. producers will put the tempo at 154, because that allows the producer to easily program 32nd notes. it gives the producer a higher resolution to work with, but it doesn't change the (77) bpm. this was important with old sequencers. look at an 808, sixteen buttons, representing 16ths. programming a sequencer is not like writing sheet music, nor is it like producing on a modern DAW, where bars can be divided into 64ths or higher, beyond human comprehension. listen to a track that is actually 154 bpm. (unfortunately there are a lot of mislabeled tracks on youtube, making the same mistake as in this video.)
@naturesinterface66636 жыл бұрын
160 bpm = jungle territory. most hip-hop heads are not going to dance to that. . toolstud.io/music/bpm.php?bpm=154&bpm_unit=4%2F4
@mickykannalles82895 жыл бұрын
No, that's wrong. He beat-boxes 2 bars in everyone of these examples. Both times it's a 4/4 beat. First: Kick on 1 Snare on 2 K 3 S 4 And so on Second: K 1 S 3 K 4+ K1 S3 K4+ Two bars all the time. Although, it's a bit irretating, that the 2. Kick beats 2 times.
@mikebarnes74414 жыл бұрын
I seriously doubt you could follow anything in this video after that point, if you were already that lost 😆 lol
@mamagoosey3 жыл бұрын
Read all of that. My brain's blank. Sigh.
@cgillespie783 жыл бұрын
Snoop is spot on. Triplets are a great tool but art needs variety.
@ethancoonce59917 жыл бұрын
I think what sets guys like kendrick and chance apart from migos and future is that they dont rely on the triplet. I listen to a migos song and its like thats the only flow they have. I got goosebumps the first time I heard kendrick switch to triplets on DNA. Its the same way in all music. In the the classical piece moonlight sonata, the beauty lies not only in the use of triplets, but the counter rhythm of the melody as well as the incredible chord progression. When I listen to hip hop radio its like "duh-duh-duh duh-duh-duh-duh (Skrrt)/ duh-duh-duh duh-duh-duh-duh (Brrrrr)" over and over again and its uninteresting and boring as hell.
@double0hsnap5387 жыл бұрын
Ethan Coonce Same! As soon as this video started, DNA. came to mind, and it's utilizing it like that which sets it apart from the trend that Snoop talks about. There's people who use the triplet as a tool and people who use it all the time and try to call it a style.
@Nhxn_7 жыл бұрын
Ethan Coonce lost me at chance
@iKhanKing7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the triplet is a tool. It's being abused right now.
@geoffreyboener7 жыл бұрын
Ethan Coonce agreed. For me it gets boring. I prefer the style they mentioned when talking about Notorius Thugs where they tap into different rhythmic lanes, kinda like it's stuttering. Eminem does this a lot, I've noticed.
@alwaysxnever7 жыл бұрын
Ethan Coonce i think you have sonething there. Hearing soneone with different styles flip their flow is amazing.
@Ian-ei3jy7 жыл бұрын
Being a drummer I love this talk about triplets
@Ian-ei3jy7 жыл бұрын
Where are the quarter note triplets though?
@fredjones56987 жыл бұрын
Ian triplets are a broad term, there exist half note triplets my boy, it's just no one ever uses them because they almost always hang over the bar line
@priceless23537 жыл бұрын
She always has the best videos
@wizard13705 жыл бұрын
Tuplets are so much fun to play around with. I love 5, 7, and 11 especially!
@kurtiskaskowski53867 жыл бұрын
Catchy hook... "Versace, Versace, Versace, Versace, Versace Versace." Really? 😂😂😂
@thewickedwizard6 жыл бұрын
That is literally the worst lyric ever.
@shiftymcfisty6 жыл бұрын
they talkin' bout the flow, not lyrics
@kamisawze15526 жыл бұрын
Colin Plumb try “hoverboard hoverboard hoverboard”
@grizzlyer22006 жыл бұрын
Colin Plumb what about “gucci gang gucci gang gucci gang gucci gang”
@guerillawhite30836 жыл бұрын
yeach its catchy
@pi33a477 жыл бұрын
@Vox, I love your content, and you guys did a great job with this video, but Snoop never said he doesn't like triplet flow, he said he doesn't like mumble rap. In this video, you showed a clip of Snoop expressing that most people nowadays (that happen to use triplet flow) all sound the same, they all have the same style, and then throughout the rest of the video, every example you used were of great rappers that actually know how to use it, great rappers that had developed their own style, and implemented it with a beat. Snoop isn't talking about those, he knows they are good, he's talking about the mumble, the same style that most the Lil's and most the Yung's use. He isn't missing anything.
@JuL3r7 жыл бұрын
Let's all mumble in triplets over a trap beat then.
@tdawg59737 жыл бұрын
JuL3r I'm down if it's going to get me rich
@Afrosphynx7 жыл бұрын
lmaoooo
@sabrinasjourney7 жыл бұрын
T Dawg is that why you want to make music tho? Wrong motivation bruh
@mariovillalobos41327 жыл бұрын
Peanut mbnbmiijbbjbb
@aaronvega8627 жыл бұрын
Lets do it who has the means I got the mumble flow.Let's start a new trend be a diverse dominant group of the mumbo jumbo rap game
@youneschoukri11844 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, I've also been using triplets in the rap songs I write. And I agree with you on the fact that they've been around for many years...
@sameiostewart-panko58907 жыл бұрын
So glad they mentioned tommy wright
@ianlangille5587 жыл бұрын
Sameio Stewart-Panko Tommy Wright I creep at night
@Lord_Don7 жыл бұрын
Sameio Stewart-Panko the *III* fool!!!! 3rd fool!
@Et3rnalPhoenix7 жыл бұрын
These are the best kinds of Vox vids
@nedisahonkey7 жыл бұрын
Phoenix I like some of the other videos but these are definitely my favorite and what got me to sub in the first place.
@merthsoft7 жыл бұрын
Love that feeling of a march from the 6/8 polyrhythm you get when you've got the whole verse in triplets. Really gives the song energy!
@marvinmack2324 жыл бұрын
Why is this sooooooo goooood! The producer and the editor snapped on this.
@bentn137 жыл бұрын
There needs on be something on how Grime rappers rap fast, because these triplets nearly feel like a trick to seem like they're rapping faster than they are...
@toph35417 жыл бұрын
The Public Enemy example and The Dismasters examples had hi hats going in eights and the rapper doing triplets against them. That's why those two examples sound so dissimilar from the others. All the other examples are hi hat patterns in triplets or only on the quarter note.
@DankerBeef7 жыл бұрын
Hey vsauce, Michael here.
@avene6 жыл бұрын
Mantronik should have received a mention here. The drum programming he did on some of T La Rock’s tracks back in the 80s took triplets to another level.
@TheAcidMines7 жыл бұрын
Y'all should do the history of that one beat that you see over and over again in latin music, it's a really distinctive bass and snare rhythm, I don't know the name of it but I'm sure there is one, and you can see examples of it everywhere
@MarinoSesh4207 жыл бұрын
That Boy lol I know what you're talking about too lol. It's in a lot of songs hahaha
@duon447 жыл бұрын
That Boy you mean the "boom bapboombap boombapbap boombap" ? Lol i hope that's clear
@VioletStone1007 жыл бұрын
Bossa? Samba?
@JP-nm3us7 жыл бұрын
That Boy you mean reggaeton?
@TheAcidMines7 жыл бұрын
J P YEP. That's exactly it, didn't know that's what reggaeton was. Thanks for the assist
@shaunisclutch7 жыл бұрын
Beautifully done as always, Estelle :). Snoop was obviously "elevated" but I can see what he was trying to say. Specifically his comment about "... All them n----s sound the same". It's less about the flow and more about how the rappers sound. Basically, "soundalikes". Kendrick and Chance stand out so you can easily distinguish who they are. You can also understand what they're saying pretty clearly lol. On the other side, there are a lot of rappers who sound "too much" alike. So as a fellow rapper, being distinguished in some way is what will give you your own light, so to speak. Then, you'll have listeners and fans who appreciate you without even calling YOUR flow a "Migos flow". In Hip-Hop, you NEVER wanna be labeled with someone else's flow haha. Same way we don't do "covers" like singers. Or have someone writing our verses. All credibility deal breakers because rap, since it's known existence, is a skill and talent which is all about creativity and originality. That's just what makes it especially unique and so widely popular. One last thing. Please, keep up the amazing work! I really love what you do :)
@nate67577 жыл бұрын
very well said, I would add that snoop also talked about "biting" back when he was huge and how originality was key to success. If you copied another rappers flow, you were pretty much trying to challenge or start beef with him. Since this term and concept has gone away, many rappers are hopping aboard the bandwagon of making as much money as they can by using triplet high hats with a trap beat, mumbling, and rapping in triplets. This style, often deemed mumble rapping, is void of any lyricism or purpose, simply made to be blasted in a club or to be sold to dim people who simply want a beat and not have to ever think about the lyrics. Its sad to see how the triplet's role in fast and aggressive lyrical beats has been used by the lazy to sell albums.
@trucke32587 жыл бұрын
My favorite song in featuring triplets goes like this: *the thing goes grrrrraaa, pop pop pop pop pop, skinny kid pop pop and a pum pum punna pum pum, skee-aaa, tun tu ku poo pum buull, pum pum*
@Dolanian14927 жыл бұрын
TruckeE ._. Word
@mxewris23557 жыл бұрын
Dude finally someone got the lyrics for me 🙌🏽
@holysmokes10477 жыл бұрын
Quality
@WillyJunior7 жыл бұрын
triplets where?
@westoneuler40657 жыл бұрын
Ain't no triplets in there
@samkk99315 жыл бұрын
7:07 is it me or do y’all hear a snare instead of hi hats
@trstmeimadctr7 жыл бұрын
No, Snoop isn't missing the point. The fact it is a powerful, yet over-used tool is exactly what is wrong with it.
@JerenVelletri7 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely the best series on vox hype
@lifetripping7 жыл бұрын
Since rap is “spoken” and not sung, perhaps what we are getting at is the natural rhythm of language. Triplets when we speak. Especially when we want to go fast. Are auctioneers speaking in triplets too? When we sing, we move naturally to other rhythms. Anyway, these are the thoughts that came to me while watching your video. Keep up the great work! Love your videos!!
@maurocarrera617210 ай бұрын
Great job breaking down to structure and analyzing the history of the evolution of the style.
@ANT19897 жыл бұрын
LORD INFAMOUS FLOW!
@cg4l9367 жыл бұрын
Damn right
@Troxio4206 жыл бұрын
Kids don't even know that he is master of that flow
@hammercanttouchthis7 жыл бұрын
0:30 Snoop nailed it when talking about this contemporary rap (if you want to call it that)....
@fatherfountain19065 жыл бұрын
call it trap
@WaterDrinker0115 жыл бұрын
It’s just rap
@winterwarden5 жыл бұрын
that's all you cuz, leave me tf out of this
@rogerszmodis4 жыл бұрын
@@WaterDrinker011 think you dropped this ---> C
@zirtapot576 жыл бұрын
I'd really love to watch a whole video on the underrated Memphis rap scene.
@alex123427157 жыл бұрын
Snoop explains modern rap so well it's crazy.
@bananasalad67612 жыл бұрын
'Modern rap' - 🤓
@LeadSwitchKick7 жыл бұрын
Vox's graphic design never ceases to amaze me.
@kaanulkusal68756 жыл бұрын
0:35 lyrical genius
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@lordspirit76557 жыл бұрын
Nahh Im chillin wit Tide wym
@user-fl6oi2er6x7 жыл бұрын
Brandon Sanchez Rojas this is a headahh comment
@HxWilliams7 жыл бұрын
chill man, too much 🔥🔥 for one comment.
@squeegee_ouija7 жыл бұрын
I've been seeing this joke for a fat minute, and still don't get it. I think I missed out on something lmao. I'ma hand you the W anyway though 👏
@LegendaryBoneThugs7 жыл бұрын
Please MORE Bone Thugs-N-Harmony beats, flow, lyrics, style videos!!!! LEGENDS!!