How this Spin Off Manga IMPROVED the Original | My Hero Academia: Vigilantes

[@masterodst1]

I freaking love vigilantes I hope it gets an animation adaptation

[@lithantushelo7932]

I'm surprised it hasn't, its doing well, the MHA brand is continually growing, and clearly Bones still wants to squeeze My Hero even if not for canon stuff, I would've expected atleast one OVA at this point

[@matt0044]

Maybe after the main story is over.

[@felipekane9611]

@@lithantushelo7932 it’s probably gonna get an adaptation after they finish production with mha.

[@elisamuelorfilarosario4163]

I hope once mha anime main ends, it gets adapted

[@kieranwrightstone2199]

Honestly I think that it’s 50/50 that we might an anime adaption of this before season 7. Considering 126 chapters we could get at least a full season or two. With the final fight going for so long and still not finished the odds are it might be a reality. Not getting my hopes up though.

[@Lida-j5e]

Pop-step is not just for fan service! I mean, it clearly looks like she is in the start but there's SO MUCH character development-

[@You-Tube-n5k]

I really like the elements Pop Step brings to the story, although her role in the story itself is kind of lackluster.

[@theworldoffun8997]

​@@You-Tube-n5kidk, she goes from the typical tsundere to a confident performer, insecure teenager getting left behind all her friends who make a lot of progress, then she gets abused through this exact insecurity and finally saved

[@You-Tube-n5k]

@@theworldoffun8997 While her character arc works in concept, what brings it down for me is that her confidence as a performer is mostly glossed over. That, and the lack of satisfying resolution. Her being saved at the end felt like less of a character moment for her, and more to give Koichi more personal stakes.

[@theworldoffun8997]

@@You-Tube-n5k yeah,i agree, but it was enough for me for some reason

[@You-Tube-n5k]

@@theworldoffun8997 Makes sense. It's a shame because personality wise I really liked Kazuho, but I remember jokingly saying that I don't want to see anyone complain about Uraraka again after they see what happens with Kazuho.

[@ZaxFSO8083]

I genuinely loved Vigilantes more than the original, I hope they make that anime (AND GIVE KOICHI A SIGNIFICANT CAMEO BEFORE THE ORIGINAL’S END!! And I can say MHA:Vigilantes is one of my favorite manga OF ALL TIME

[@Nevri.]

The fact Deku was supposed to stay quirkless and be more of a batman character, but then either Horikoshi decided it'd be boring or was told by editor or someone to change it, was the biggest misstep ever. Hell, even the original idea of giant girl being the main protagonist and story focusing more on collateral dmg etc. would be way more interesting than what we ultimately got. And don't get me wrong. The story has its great moments at the beginning and idea of Deku gaining All Might's power, but having to slowly training with it, was interesting, but the downside was always that the more control he gains over it, the more it'll just turn into your standard Shounen and Deku being All Might 2.0. But when Deku started to unlock all other powers, to me the story lost any originality it started with. I also liked that Deku was supposed to be more of a brain, than brawl character and even having him gain super-strength, but be still more of a character that uses that strength in clever ways, rather than just bashing enemies, would be interesting, but no, in the end he just turned into your standard, beat them up with overwhelming power protagonist. And lastly. I just think the world-bulding was very poorly done, because you really had hard time believing the society would work like that if almost all people were born with superpowers. Story starts explore it a bit more later, but it's way too late and as you mentioned, side character gets way too little screen-time and build-up, Deku's classmates being the main example, so a lot of stuff ends up simply as a wasted potential.

[@King_Minos64]

Yeah, I kinda got bored with MHA after the early seasons. Granted, I already had somewhat of a cynical attitude towards it when Deku, who was built up to be a underdog, just gets thrown the best power first episode. I would’ve much rathered have Deku be a sort of Batman as you brought up and I very much dislike whoever forced through that change. I still enjoyed it nonetheless although partially disappointed, but as Deku became more and more powerful, I similarly lost interest. It just became… generic and the center point of MHA’s success was that it was unique. It lost its way as the dime-a-dozen shounen tropes creeped in.

[@ProjektTaku]

I disagree. When you look at the prototype one-shot, "My Hero", which as you described, originally had Deku having no quirk, I think that was the best change for the series. A Quirkless nobody finally gets his shot at his dream from his idol, and he has to deal with the fall out of the legacy he's inherited. Ironically, there are more series with a "character lacks the power system of their universe but still becomes the greatest", so making Deku have the greatest power in his universe is a nice switch up. Plus its not like its handed to him or he was a chosen one, he earned it through his determination and training, and continues to have to try and control it. Even him getting the previous quirks was nice, a new curveball without having to give him more special properties, like Naruto being the reincarnation of the first Hokage, son of the fourth, related to a super-strong secret clan, although I do think the power progression was a bit rushed.

[@Burst644]

Mt lady being the protagonist would NOT be more interesting wharsoever

[@yumiigrape]

Man, I loved reading this story. Thanks for bringing more attention to this masterpiece of a manga!

[@Ehh97]

I really liked Vigilantes and honestly I kind of like its art style better than the original. I would definitely recommend more people read it

[@Infinite_voyager]

Giving deku so many powers really took out the air of the series sails for me. I wished he would only have kept all mights powers and had to learn to master them in full to be able to defeat all for one

[@murderman8578]

Well he inherits the Powers from the users

[@Infinite_voyager]

@@murderman8578 yeah but they decided to make it like that , it could have been written differently for sure

[@felipekane9611]

The powers don’t even take the spotlight of ofa wdym, they are useless without ofa

[@You-Tube-n5k]

I will say, this was one of the many things My Hero handled better than Vigilantes oddly enough. Since Deku and Koichi both get insane power ups to their quirks, but it just kind of all happens with Koichi in the final act without much earned buildup. And while it definitely felt out of nowhere with Deku too, admittedly, it fit the character a bit more. Although I get why some people weren't the biggest fan there.

[@loliH9]

I loved Vigilantes. Not even going of the meta aspect of Deku being sold as an underdog when he isn't actually one, I found Koichi to be a much better protagonist to follow for the themes of heroism, the admiration for All Might, the hero system, how quirks affect society, etc. was done better and could be done better through following Koichi, the Boomer, and Pop Step. Koichi's power progression is much better too since it has all to do with him mastering a quirk he's misusing rather than just gaining more of them. About the only thing I didn't like is that Stain looked like an idiot for having very flimsy ideas and for attacking vigilantes of all people when they should be the last people he targets when vigilantes by definition do it for the love of the trade. Also, I've been calling Knuckleduster "the Boomer" for so long that I had to look up his name.

[@Risky_roamer1]

The ending was so much more better then the main story

[@Eduardo-pk9qb]

Another thing I liked about the manga is the way Koichi's Quirk develops, it goes from being seemingly useless to a Very strong one. . . Spoiler but, his quirk becomes so strong to the point where even One for all questions how it is possible for someone who started with a mediocre quirk to be able to take on number 6 who is basically an advanced nomu who retains all his intelligence, and then comes to the conclusion that with the right environment, enough will and experience anyone could become a superhuman.

[@UrFavoriteZombie]

Ughhhhh, Can't wait for Vol 16

[@watchforever1724]

I still enjoy the main manga despite me enjoying the spinoff manga

[@BoscoBop]

Koichi's progression is just so good. I could not believe what I was reading during the sky egg incident. And then it's topped off during the final arc when he's recovering his friend while dodging enemies from all directions. Him pulling out clutch after clutch was just crazy. And then at the Manga's PEAK when he get's out of his comfort zone of defense only and starts fighting back for real? Amazing. All this progression while he doesn't really grow as a person is just what makes him so cool to me.

[@tutubism]

So glad im not the only who thought the spinoff was better than the main series

[@RhemaOssai]

Koichi is such a good main character.

[@shado_lancer117]

Whenever a new MHA season was out I rewatched it from the beginning like 4 times AND I LOVED IT EVERY TIME even right now I have the BURNING desire to watch it again

[@motor4X4kombat]

Finally someone that says "improve" rather than "better". Unlike something like boruto that insted of beeing worse is destroying the original.

[@You-Tube-n5k]

Yeah, I don't think Vigilantes was better than My Hero, but I do think it adds a lot to the story.

[@dominicadugyamfi7330]

Boruto is not destroying the source material

[@motor4X4kombat]

@@dominicadugyamfi7330 sure and the star wars sequels aren't destroying the original...

[@partymantis3421]

@@dominicadugyamfi7330 well not lierally ofcourse, the original will qlways be there, but in Boruto there is sadly a lot of undermining the first generation & the badguys often ignore the power system to easily achieve powers that took great effort to preform in the original. theres goo stuff to find for sure but,you know

[@UrFavoriteZombie]

What was interesting is that when they were first starting to make Koichi they originally wanted to do a what if senario... What if Deku never met All Might but still wanted to be a hero, would have been interesting to read but, Koichi is just WAYYYYY better than Deku imo. Hes an improvement basically and what made the manga even better for me personally, is getting the backstory of my favorite Hero Aizawa. It made me love the guy even more I finally caught up to the 15th vol and it goes CRAZYYYYYYY, the 16th volume is coming soon on Oct 10th and I'm hype as hell

[@Lumberjack_king]

I personally think it’s incredible but it’s not better than the main series i personally think they are equal

[@watchforever1724]

Didn’t expect you guys to talk about this spinoff for sure

[@OK-yy6qz]

I definitely loved this manga way more than MHA and Knuckleduster is my favourite character in the entire franchise. There's something special about a non-powered character fighting super powered opponents and consistently winning thanks to his skill and experience. And it's even better when he's grounded and doesn't have Mech suits or impossible Gadgets or Super-assasin training. Combined with his Reason for doing everything in the first place it creates in my opinion the best character in MHA

[@spacecamel1257]

I really don't like My Hero Academia, but I'm so glad I gave Vigilante a try because HOT DAMN is Koichi an amazing hero. I think we all know he's the true protagonist of the series.

[@CesarRios-tz9ym]

BRO thaks man! before this video, I was hesitant to buy this manga but after watching I decided to actually pick up the first volume and it was great! thanks so much for introducing me to this manga

[@sarawitrodchompu3576]

Koichi's quirk sounds fucking hilarious. Just sit down, and start sliding away with the stone grinding sfx

[@nicky923nk]

I gave Vigilantes a shot a while ago and just couldn't get into it. And honestly hearing that characters from MHA actually get development in this spin off just makes me resent MHA more. Like you said Aizawa's backstory should have been in the original. I shouldn't have to read a spin off to feel like the character's are real and the world is alive.

[@elisamuelorfilarosario4163]

I still think the Bee Pop arc is my favorite. Provided, I havent finished the manga

[@johnpaulcross424]

Vigilantes is literally better than the og series at this point

[@watchforever1724]

I would say I like both honestly

[@carterblake3410]

@@watchforever1724 i like both aslo

[@watchforever1724]

@@carterblake3410 wow shocked someone agrees with me

[@carterblake3410]

@@watchforever1724 yeah

[@watchforever1724]

@@carterblake3410 weird I guess

[@LowTier4Life]

I can only think of two other series that have solid spin-offs. Ancient Magus Bride and That Time I got reincarnated as a slime. Both have two spinoffs and both are pretty decent in their own right. The Ancient Magus Bride spinoffs are especially neat as while they take place in the universe of the main series, they are their own stories with only passing references to the main series so you can read them without having to read the main series. That Time I got reincarnated as a slime though, its two spinoffs are directly tied to events in the NOVELS of the main series and anyone reading the spinoffs without reading the NOVELS can easily get spoiled, I emphasise NOVELS because the events in one of the spinoffs (ways of the monster nation) takes place closer in time to where the light novels currently are than the manga is, despite the fact that Ways is manga only. Its annoying and I got spoiled cause I havent read the novels lol.

[@richborn6700]

I mainly watch the anime but ive peeked here and there at Vigilantes ans have really liked it. I like the progression of the story. My problem with the show is its been 100 plus episodes and they're STILL IN FRESHMAN YEAR of hero class. By season 7 you'd think they would be in Senior year but nope still stagnant in terms of series progression

[@brihatsama7494]

Popstar is weapon for this manga

[@smarty_podcast1857]

"thankfully pop is not that important" ...it might seem crazy what i'm about to say

[@andocommando3071]

You're goddamn right

[@ganzap71]

i love this manga

[@watchforever1724]

I mean it ended last year

[@gutsonthemic5261]

I dont think its better or as good as the OG, but there definitely elements I prefer over to it

[@sammcfarlane2494]

Looking at young Izuku rock back and forth it made me wonder, Is Izuku autistic?

[@RikuHino]

I personally like the spin-off more than the original series lol

[@kestar616]

7:22 eraser head and kurogiri aren’t related they’re just friend from the past??

[@vintageoverdrive4819]

I am just wondering where is the protagonist of mha vigilantes during deku's fight against shigiraki at this moment.

[@donas_macro]

I always felt like stain was dealt with too quickly they should’ve let his character grow and develop have him become a more serious threat or something like an anti hero

[@Joenah5]

I love Vigilantes. I don’t think I’ve quite fallen out of love with the main series (I’m behind on chapters but I took a long break from anime/manga in general), but I kinda get that feeling with the anime adaptation. The anime has felt like it’s been going downhill since season 4 which is frustrating since the overhaul arc is where the manga really started picking up for me. As a whole, I think Vigilantes is a much more consistent, and thus better series than the original.

[@watchforever1724]

I argue season 6 it’s gotten better

[@Joenah5]

@@watchforever1724 tbh I dropped it after season 5 butchered my favorite arc.

[@watchforever1724]

@@Joenah5 honestly season 5 was fine just not perfect i feel like season 6 got me back into the anime even though I’m caught up with the manga but fine

[@Joenah5]

@@watchforever1724 nah, season 5 was legit painful to watch. They cut some essential scenes. Like the Re Destro introduction scene in the manga was one of my favorites of the arc.

[@watchforever1724]

@@Joenah5 that scene was added but in season 6 though so I guess you were missing out

[@leopardnosepaws]

I love vigilantes, more than MHA. It has a story im more interested in with a protag i like more ober Deku. Deku a good character but him being given a op quirk that he has to learn to grow with is nice. (I drop off near the start of season 4, all i know.) Koichi has a quirk, pretty mid one and is working with what he has and improving on it! Only on vol. 7.

[@You-Tube-n5k]

The thing with vigilantes is that it's nowhere near as good as the original manga imo, but the thing is that it introduces new concepts and builds off of the original in such a way that makes the world feel bigger and more vibrant. It's worth a read for that reason alone. While I do wish the core story was more interesting, it's got a lot that adds to the My Hero world.

[@katsuragirin6168]

Bro is insane Vigilante is so much better

[@You-Tube-n5k]

​@@katsuragirin6168 I really disagree. Vigilantes is good, but it's definitely not as good imo.

[@gonzaloegonzalez8106]

7:25 this is something that i started to dislike about the MHA series and it gets worst over time. The mangaka just assume you would relate to shocking scenes even if there's no build up. Midnight death is another example of that.

[@aneonfoxtribute]

"Every manga has flaws and Pop Step is one of them" I dunno what you mean. I thought she was the best character in Vig other than Knuckle Duster. Hell I think she's one of the best characters in MHA as a whole

[@syressx9098]

Agree. I love all three of them, and Pop is great)

[@rold-hx8bu]

He says that he's still reading through it. Probably just starting

[@supersonicsaga]

I been saying that Deku getting all might powers was one of the worst decisions made for the series. He should have just been batman

[@vazazell5967]

People when they miss the entire fucking point of the story that said story is beating you over the head with over and over and over. Same for naruto fans who somehow don't get it's point

[@goosygrower419]

One of the worst takes ever. Be ashamed to know you're getting cooked on teitter

[@syressx9098]

​@@vazazell5967 Whats the point then? Educate us.

[@robertrivera5569]

​​@@syressx9098 Read the first sentence ever stated in the manga

[@upg5147]

It's interesting since the only reason Deke is chosen is cause he has the heart of a hero and that's what matters over the quirk but in reality he still gets quirk (the strongest one next to the main villain) which somewhat defeats the purpose of why he was chosen in the first place. In all honesty a Batman like Deku in this world wouldn't make it. Sure for low level threats it's fine but to be as bombastic as this series because, Delu would have literally been dusted ages ago. It just doesn't work for this story being told.

[@theodorecarter6601]

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? - Juvenal, Satire (Satires VI, lines 347-348)

[@otgboiii]

Chad: crawler Virgin: deku

[@2saddads]

Saying Spider-Man never had to pass an exam is insane considering most iterations he's a high school or college student and his struggles are the duality of being a super hero or a normal person that was just a bad refference to start with. And even Deku gets 2 Spider-Man powers as the story goes, with danger sense aka Spidey Sense, and Black Whip which unfortunately makes there other classmate with the tape powers kind of obsolete was his name Sero?

[@thomasffrench3639]

There’s plenty of good spin off manga. Captain Tsubasa sequel, the Saint Seiya prequel is commonly considered better than the original, Silver Fang’s sequel is more popular than the original, Fist of the Blue Sky ran almost as long as Fist of the North Star, and Card Captor Sakura sequel is considered good as well.

[@amuroray9115]

True. I know about those.

[@shadowreaperbg7759]

3:38 I'm really REALLY sorry, but is that a jojo reference

[@shadowreaperbg7759]

What is koichi get a quick awakening

[@henrybaka7621]

Your complaint of aiswas arc not being in the main stories reminds me of American comic events when half the story is buried in the side books lol. Horikoshi copied even the bad parts of American comics lol

[@mrbushido56]

BTW where are they !

[@watchforever1724]

This spinoff ended

[@mrbushido56]

@@watchforever1724 yes but it's notvlike the characters are dead

[@watchforever1724]

@@mrbushido56 yeah I know

[@sgdpushaa3232]

Wrong deku had to train 9 months it may have been a few episodes but that's because they skipped it but deku is definitely more of an underdog because even after being able to lift a bus and clean that beach and carry a 500 pound all might while running his body was still scronny a bit but still good and he could only use 2% of one for all

[@porkdud]

real

[@watchforever1724]

I was expecting another naruto video

[@Centure120]

Deku needed to be stronger than All Might to face the new threat. You wanted him weaker to make the story like Naruto? He needs to be the greatest hero because its not looking good

[@szuman963]

Finally some decent content coming back to the channel.

[@watchforever1724]

Hasn’t that been there on this channel though

[@kosherdill7913]

MHA

[@omegagamer36]

I will not stand for this pop stedisrespect.

[@izfiz1806]

Y’all gotta chill in the comments. Vigilantes is good but it doesn’t come close to being nearly as good as og mha. It barely does anything better if we’re being completely honest.

[@Indeeee]

Exactly. The MHA hate train is honestly ridiculous.

[@QTRemnant]

That's it? Well, this spin off has definitely been overhyped. There's was nothing special or compelling said in this video.

[@reisawatariX3]

anime spin off is usually a cash grab words was so dangerously ignorant. i'm not here to criticize, just as reminder. i know it was just catchy opening, but you may want to rethink what word you used, so that you won't comes out as the guy who talk nonsense. That lines could ruined the credibility of the entire video. Especially when fate series and to aru being the colossal that they are.

[@richborn6700]

Oh my God dude go outside.

[@reisawatariX3]

@@richborn6700 do your parents hate you? you seems so desperate for attention.