The amount of respect beta ray bill has for Odinson to offer his hammer was amazing. Very cool moment.
@EmoEmu5 жыл бұрын
That's why people love BRB. He's one of the most noble characters in comics.
@theavastark64634 жыл бұрын
He's names thor
@JackTheLivingSkeletonCalavera7 жыл бұрын
Unworthy Thor: Blonde, wears red, and has a metal arm... Full Metal Alchemists?
@bull.dozier92713 жыл бұрын
@Eye Patch Guy thats what I was thinking....and a smaller weapon...lol
@joanncanete58093 жыл бұрын
pathetic weeb
@Blakk_Wolf77 жыл бұрын
Thor is NOT merely a title, it's his name. His name is Thor Odinson, like Odin's name is Odin Borson. Balder's name is Balder Odinson. Loki's name is Loki Laufeyson, Angela's name is Angela Odinsdottir etc
@Barbariandisks5 жыл бұрын
Her aesgardian name is Aldrif
@RoxDZoro5 жыл бұрын
Technically Thor is whoever is the god of thunder
@briansantacruz6814 жыл бұрын
Tell me are you thor god of hammers
@adolfogarzachaires3944 жыл бұрын
@@RoxDZoro yea, but it just gives you his powers, not his identity
@sinteleon3 жыл бұрын
But sometimes the name and descriptive title are one and the same. It's not often the case in english, but for other languages like chinese, the names are often made to be descriptive of what the parents hope the child would be like.
@madscientistshusta7 жыл бұрын
"Thor is not intrinsicly better than any regular asgardian accept hes stronger and faster" Lolwut!?
@frantzkenol67205 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable! These stories are so out of whack. They’ve ruined Marvel comics
@RoxDZoro5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like he is better lol ,if he's stronger and faster lol
@mconcepcion7527 жыл бұрын
Thor not being much better than every other asgardian is such bogus, He is literally half elder god. Son of Odin and Gaia, you are telling me he is nothing special without his hammer? Psh
@Vilqotz-16 жыл бұрын
M Concepcion Gaia is a titan in greek mythology not norse mythology.
@Vilqotz-16 жыл бұрын
plus Thor is just a pure god he's the son of Odin and the godess Frigg not any giant or titan
@brandonlivega6 жыл бұрын
Thor is indeed son of Gaea, Gaea took many names as Mother Earth, societies named her in their own mythologies differently.
@edwardburns19866 жыл бұрын
Vilgot Kihlberg in marvel comics his mom is Gaia
@MegaConkster6 жыл бұрын
In Marvel Comics, Gaea has a presence in every pantheon under various names. Odin got to know her in bed while she was called Jord, but all of the various Earth Mother figures in all of the pantheons are still the same entity, and she was one of the Elder Gods --the first beings to emerge from the darkness. So skip the mythology lesson, Marvel has already explained its various collections of god figures on multiple occasions.
@Gaia_Gaistar7 жыл бұрын
Thor is his name no matter what anyone says. It is a name not a title. God of Thunder is a title.
@BenFalkenstein7 жыл бұрын
9_Bucks Regardless, Odinson officially gave the name to Jane Foster.
@ragnar977 жыл бұрын
+BenFalkenstein so what is his name know? Jerry? Please.
@0Fate8Bound07 жыл бұрын
His name is Odinson,are you not listening? Like Jackson aka son of jack (in the traditional sense.) or Odin in odinson's case. Jane foster is Thor now so she's Thor Jane.
@Gaia_Gaistar7 жыл бұрын
+RagnarTheRed My name is literally Jerry funnily enough. If someone stole my first name and I had to go around by my family name alone i'd be pissed. The family name Armstrong for instance was started as a semi title/clan name. In olden times in parts of Europe you'd just go by your name like John or Thor. That was it. So a guy named John might have earned the title Armstrong (John Armstrong) or used the family name Jackson, son of Jack based on the patriarch of their family. Your reasonings are as weak as the writers trying to justify this stupid bullshit.
@0Fate8Bound07 жыл бұрын
This is just crying over semantics. The writers have simply merged the iconography and connotations of the name Thor and God of thunder together. Instead of saying, she has taken up the mantle of god of thunder they simply refer to it as Thor because the name carries a stronger depiction of what she becomes than God of thunder does. Marval has introduced several divine pantheons from Greek to Japanese, many of which have their own gods of thunder so the term is a far vaguer indication of who Jane becomes. It''s the same reason that the Thor Corps is named that and not The gods of thunder, it better informs the reader of the mentality, powers and trajectory of the character(s) taking up the name.simple.
@PoochZie7 жыл бұрын
Thor is a name, Mjolnir only gives you the power of Thor. Beta Ray Bill wasn't never called Thor, yes?
@dzzyvilanova5605 жыл бұрын
*wasn't ever
@UNFITTED15 жыл бұрын
Eric Masterson was, Volstagg was, Thor Girl existed since 2000 before Jane.
@guyfieri99135 жыл бұрын
UNFITTED1 he was called the war Thor making him very different from regular Thor he didn’t wield a hammer either he had a axe and his own identity
@UNFITTED15 жыл бұрын
@@guyfieri9913 You're dumb as hell. It wasn't his own identity. Volstaag wielded jornborn which was the weapon that Ultimate Thor wielded. The weapon came from another universe but it still belonged to Thor and War Thor was a mantle as well. Now go brush your teeth immediately! 🤨😬
@keagandeal34753 жыл бұрын
@@UNFITTED1 u sound a little salty
@okamichamploo7 жыл бұрын
if Thor is a title and not a name, how can they still call it "The Unworthy Thor"?
@jeannietraverso9036 жыл бұрын
Yazuki Wolf And how can he be accompanied by Beta Ray Bill. Shouldn't it be Odinson and Thor?
@maxtoth55615 жыл бұрын
Got ‘em
@darryljack66125 жыл бұрын
@@maxtoth5561 not really, because it is as it says, he is an unworthy "Thor" The same way one can be an unworthy leader. Hell there are other Thors, he is just ultimate thor
@MrThemelloman5 жыл бұрын
Its fucking retarded he said that. Hes a damn idiot for that one
@MsPhysics221005 жыл бұрын
@@darryljack6612 yup that's it
@grendel10137 жыл бұрын
My issue with the direction Thor went is that Thor is supposed to be his name and NOT a title. Odinson is a title meaning " son of Odin" such as old English titles like " John of York". Since the comic character Thor is based on a Nordic god, it infuriates me that he completely strayed so far from the source material. That alone turned me off to the new Female Thor.
@phazonbumblebee99016 жыл бұрын
Or “Phil Son Of Coul”
@xavier95335 жыл бұрын
Thor is both a name and title. The name of Thor Odinson is well... Thor. However, it depends on how he lives up to that name. That is when Thor becomes a title. If he does not live up to his name and essentially succeed Odin, then Thor does not deserve the title of "Thor" or "God of Thunder." He may still go by the name of Thor when cast out of Asgard or when he loses his hammer, but at that point he no longer holds or deserves the title of Thor. The Title of Thor correlates with "Odinson." If he disgraces himself or acts out of line to a certain point, he no longer is deserving of being called Thor Odinson. Thus he loses the title of Thor Odinson, and is only by the name of Thor. This is all essentially what his name means. His name is Thor Odinson, but if he does something to lose the title of God of Thunder; then he loses his worthiness of the title "Thor." Thus, due to his name both being a Name and a Title, it is able to be passed down when another person takes up the earthly mantle of the hero. There is also the fact he is called Thor, and if Jane Foster or someone else takes up the mantle then they either go by Thor or go by something else that strays them farther from actually being a successor.
@Himmyjewett2 жыл бұрын
Odinson is Thor's last name not a title
@perfectmarnon4 жыл бұрын
Nick Fury leaned in and whispered "I've been told by our marketing team that we need a strong female character to appeal to a smaller demographic, sorry pal."
@alexmalcolm63097 жыл бұрын
So Thor is unworthy because he's not full of himself?
@JKissoon17 жыл бұрын
Alex Ramos seems to go a bit against the point of him learning humility to be worthy
@Geneforson7 жыл бұрын
+Alex Ramos +Mr. Spock Really good points from both you guys. Heh... its funny; in a way... Thor NOT being full of him self was his over arching goal for a long time in his character's run (way back) AND its the very thing that ends up not making him worthy. So I wonder if it will turn into a.... lets say math/algebra equation... that once you truly see the equation (really comprehend it) from BOTH sides ~ you will finally TRULY be able to be both things (worthy and humble). Just like an equation... if you read ONE way, you are only seeing half of it. If you read it the other way the opposite direction, again... you only see half. But when you see it BOTH WAYS ~ ie you just see the equation in its entire and not in a linear fashion; you TRULY will comprehend what the equation truly is. So it may seem simple on its surface, but can prove very difficult on deeper contemplation . Kinda like the riddle/dilemma of "trying to look left, AND right at the dame time". So yeah, CRAZY random metaphor... i know. But I think it is one way that Thor will eventually (maybe WAY down the road) will be able to become worthy to wield his hammer again. While ALSO maintain his humility.
@brandonmcdaniel54477 жыл бұрын
Alex Ramos I think it's more that Thor was constantly doubting himself but was in denial of his own self doubt. What Nick Fury said to him basically brought it to the forefront.
@DarkEpyon1237 жыл бұрын
there is confidence, and there is arrogance. originally, thor was arrogant, he felt he was through "just because", that is why odin turned him into doctor so he could learn humility. after that thor wasn't fully confident in himself. he didnt believe in his actually ability or worthiness to be thor.
@davesvens86976 жыл бұрын
Emmmm.... I think it's tge fear of thor being evil, and seing himself as part of the "selfish gods" that makes mjolnir doubting thor, he is not sure of himself and he sees himself as kinda bad. Kinda right to say that. Thor needs to understand that he can be a "god" and a good man, that he can actually be good and a ruller. And he doubts that point in his words.
@mathiaspereira10157 жыл бұрын
unworthy Thor is the best thing coming out of DC rebirth.
@dadwarlord7 жыл бұрын
Mathias Pereira i read this and scrolled down and im like "way da min!!" almost caught me
@-m.d.n-90197 жыл бұрын
Mr meeseek lol , same
@nicodemusedwards69317 жыл бұрын
I don't know, Godspeed was pretty co- WAIT A MINUTE!
@firetarrasque46677 жыл бұрын
This joke is getting old now. I've seen it for SO long. Man, its cutting a SWATH through the comics section.
@cesarf.g.99967 жыл бұрын
Damn it you beat me
@spoonabenson87627 жыл бұрын
I was literally reading this comic and was like I bet Rob's going a video on this today
@SomeRandomDude1617 жыл бұрын
Spoona Benson same man same
@johndoe-mn2zs7 жыл бұрын
Spoona Benson literally reading a comic as opposed to figuratively reading a comic?
@defrte7 жыл бұрын
john doe Literally. That literally happened and people literally believed it, literally.
@kawaki12077 жыл бұрын
Spoona Benson and so he did
@alexpronouncedcologne15797 жыл бұрын
I bet Rob is going a.... Eh?!
@dahuterschuter7 жыл бұрын
PETER PARKER IS JUST A TITLE
@josephlysaght35907 жыл бұрын
Enterprise wrong
@neondoggo28866 жыл бұрын
Joseph Lysaght its a joke...
@Bluejay-jg6hz6 жыл бұрын
dahuterschuter Yeah I mean if Doctor Otto Octavius has anything to say about it *Superior spiderman joke*
@chicharomain69086 жыл бұрын
And Gunther wore it best
@SuperPremiumDeluxe6 жыл бұрын
In this context wouldn't it be that Peter is just a title and his name is actually parker?
@R3troZone7 жыл бұрын
Thor is not a title. It's his damn name. I don't care who is writing the character or what they think they can and can't do. The character is based on a real cultural icon and you don't get to alter that.
@tfos9936 жыл бұрын
Vulgarr the Viking But but but, muh diversity
@chunkytheclown34226 жыл бұрын
It's because Odin put the enchantment on the hammer. I doubt anyone intended this to happen when it was first written, but saying that anyone worthy of wielding the hammer "shall possess the power of Thor" means that Thor's powers have been separated from himself the instant Odin made that spell and could be given to whoever wields Mjolnir. Considering that Thor's exceptional power comes from his increased connection to the Odinforce due to his bloodline and Odin has full control of that force, it makes perfect sense that Odin could strip him of all but his baseline Asgardian power(which is why he's not really any stronger than a normal Asgardian soldier without it), connect it to the hammer, and imbue whoever wields the hammer with that power. I disagree with the idea that Thor literally doesn't possess the name "Thor" after he becomes unworthy, because that's just flat out his given name, but due to his pride as a warrior, I could see how he could psychologically want to punish himself by no longer considering himself "Thor" after everything he based his identify on was stripped away. It's rather horrible that his girlfriend actually went along with this self-punishment and decided to enable his identity crisis by calling herself "Thor", but what can you do?
@markwilburn12186 жыл бұрын
I don't think the Nordic myth ever said Thor had a thing for Nurses either...
@HPerfectH6 жыл бұрын
Beta Ray Bill wielded Mjolnir but he didn’t become Thor - having the power of Thor and being Thor are totally a different thing.
@craiga.glesner4245 жыл бұрын
Sure if the comic was published in say Norway where he's part of the local mythology but here in the secular USA we can mess with him because he's just a comic book character, kinda like Heracles. So, not based on a real cultural American icon or even a Scandinavian one, he's a a made up comic character who is loosely based on a piece of mythology.
@betaraybillfan17507 жыл бұрын
Good job rob, one step towards BETA RAY BILL edit: OMG BETA RAY BILL IS IN THIS STORY FUCK ME YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
@BEARNakedGaming7 жыл бұрын
Messiah Bardock I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR A WHILE. BETA RAY BILL!
@betaraybillfan17507 жыл бұрын
BEAR I've been saying this on all his recent vids, got like 120 likes on one of my comments
@LordValdomerol7 жыл бұрын
After this comic, I just can't stop calling him Beta Ray Bro. Goddamn I wish I had a friend as fucking loyal as him
@betaraybillfan17507 жыл бұрын
Rich Thormentor THOR MY OATH BROTHER I HAVE RETURNED IN YOUR TIME OF NEED
@carlsjr5407 жыл бұрын
Rich Thormentor at least you have friends
@user-fy3lg1hu2i7 жыл бұрын
I still see Thor (Proper Thor) as the only Thor regardless of what the current writer says. Thor is his name, it is not a title and has never been a title. Foster is no more than a publicity stunt and once Marvel gets back on track and returns Thor's power to him as it should be the story will go on and be much better for it.
@bkstandard8827 жыл бұрын
J fucking feminists
@thetruemarksmen91246 жыл бұрын
J well Thor is just the god of thunder but without his hammer he doesn’t seem to have thunder powers so I guess whoever has the hammer is the one with thunder and lighting powers which gives them the title of god of thunder aka Thor
@probot65156 жыл бұрын
ThetrueMarksmen no. They become the god of thunder not thor.
@Black-ICE926 жыл бұрын
ThetrueMarksmen naw Thor still has his thunder powers without it, this just bad portrayal on the character
@probot65156 жыл бұрын
ARNAV JOSHI ... *shaking head*
@trillination7 жыл бұрын
Damn all that waiting to hear what nick said and it was not even worth it. How can a man whom is a avenger, saved countless lives and has been praised and prayed to by humans and asgaurdians alike even for a fraction of a sec believe the words of old crusty geriactric nick fury. Seeds of doubt my ass. I swear if i was thor and nick tried to whisper that shit in my ear i would have laughed in his face and tell him "THOU CAN FUCKETH OFF" and fly off with hammer and zero doubts. My boy thor should done have done that brock lesner shoulder stretch and then take nicks ass to Hammer City.
@dzzyvilanova5605 жыл бұрын
🤣😂
@josephel58567 жыл бұрын
I only appreciated Jane Foster from the period when she was the love interest of Thor. I never accepted her role as a replacement for the Thunder god
@kingnickolus6 жыл бұрын
Beta Ray Bill WAS in "Thor: Ragnarok"!! He was one of the four champions whose heads were emblazoned on the main tower on Skaar!
@Max_Money_AWA7 жыл бұрын
Thor is not a title. Period. End of story. The stories in the Thor title and this Unworthy title are great. However, using his name as a title is utterly ridiculous. Just my two cents....
@janidoe45617 жыл бұрын
Bill D triggered
@Max_Money_AWA7 жыл бұрын
Conor Punch Is your comment a micro-aggression?
@memeSSJG7 жыл бұрын
Thor is a title odinson is his name
@patsboy10127 жыл бұрын
MemeSSJG Thor is his name, Odinson just tells you he’s obviously the son of Odin just like Odin is the son of Bor hence Borson is Odin’s last name . God of Thunder is the title Thor carries. By saying Jane Foster is Thor is a statement that is false because just because you wield Mjölnir doesn’t make you Thor. Captain America once wielded the hammer but did that make him Thor no.
@logan60347 жыл бұрын
You're not writing the story, Jason Aaron is. Period. End of story.
@Batz1307 жыл бұрын
Strongly disagree. Thor is the "SON" of Odin period. Jane Foster is a bad idea outta control.
@alicyjinx89237 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda shakey on this "title" thing. Yes, the superhero titles are titles and other characters have taken up the mantle of certain heroes, but the titles are intrinsically attached to the characters. Steve Rogers is Captain America. Has there been other Captain America's? Yes. But he is still Captain America. With Thor its even more appropriate because that is his actual name. It's not a mantle or an identity, it's the name of a god. Odinson may be stripped of his ability to lift Mjolnir, but that doesn't mean he is no longer "Thor." It's his name. He has been stripped of his power, not his name. The line of text on the hammer specifically states who ever is worthy will attain "the power of Thor" which says nothing about gaining or loosing a title or name.
@zorgthedevil457 жыл бұрын
I disagree with rob on being Jane an interesting Thor hell she isn't even an interesting character she don't have a personality but unworthy Thor on the other hand is just plain badass
@Theri44446 жыл бұрын
Jane was far more interesting as thor than thor himself and is my favorite thor altogether
@jeannietraverso9036 жыл бұрын
Theri4444 I disagree,Throg was probably the best Thor.
@logan60346 жыл бұрын
Bias much?
@Eduardo_Ventura7 жыл бұрын
He became unworthy because Nick Fury said to him that he is white and male.
@CharlieDarkon7 жыл бұрын
Everyone's entitled to their opinions but Thor Odinson is the true THOR and Jane Foster's Thor is just a novelty that'll lose her status sooner or later
@jlcarid7 жыл бұрын
Sooner the better
@Charziken9097 жыл бұрын
charlie dark and then people are gonna miss her like dick grayson batman or doc oc spiderman
@pheunithpsychic-watertype98817 жыл бұрын
If that was just an opinion then her titles wouldn't sell so crappy
@CharlieDarkon7 жыл бұрын
john Thaerough Well numbers never lie . Marvel has definitely done something wrong with making Jane Foster the new "Thor"
@CharlieDarkon7 жыл бұрын
And I actually hope Odinson ends up killing the female Thor not knowing it was Jane
@bigbowss98177 жыл бұрын
Best Thor run ever? Are you serious? Jason Aaron did amazing job with God Butcher, God Bomb, Last Days of Midgard, etc. but he completely dropped the ball with thus Jane Foster and Unworthy debacle. Having Thor become unworthy or Jane lifting Mjolnir isnt bad in itself, but the story around it is absolutly awful. Why turn his name into a mantle? Why have Jane steal his identity instead of being her own character the way Beta-Ray-Bill did? Why make Odin unable to control his own fuckin spell? Why focus on what Thor cannot do without his hammer instead of showcasing he is the God of Thunder no matter what tools he uses? Why make him a dumb hammer-junky? All of those plot holes are just bone headed decisions in my opinion... Having the whisper circle back to the plot line of Gorr's ideology is pretty clever and it would have worked in a better crafted story, but having pop up in the middle of nowhere like that when it hasnt came up anywhere since ANAD just falls flat. The best runs of Thor is and will always remain Walt Simonson.
@gabbonoo7 жыл бұрын
Why turn it into a mantle? because it distances the powers from the identities. Why not have jane gain different powers? because the less expected conflict between the familiar is generally more intrinsic to immersion. Why cant he control "his" spell? The nature of spells is a primal and sentient catalyst of momentary whims, not identities. Why make him an Asgardian man instead of the hero-god of thunder? Because weakness is a reason to change, to grow or perish. Why make him obsessive and fearful? Because character flaws can be a better villain than antagonists.
@bigbowss98177 жыл бұрын
Elliott Bohringer 1) Thor is a name, not a power. It is litterally a norse male name still used in Icelandic and Scandinavian countries, there is nothing to distinguish. His title/mantle is God of Thunder, so taking his place in Asgardian pantheon is one thing, stealing his name and identity is another. 2) I never taked about her having different powers, I said becoming a character of her own. Beta-Ray-Bill has essentially the same powers as Thor safe a few differences, but he has values and positions in Marvel cosmos that are unique to him. She doesnt, she litterally copied Thor's personality and added sexist bs such as female villains refusing to fight her because she's a woman, Freyja favoring her because she's female and other crap like which she has never earned by performing feats of her own, but by everyone else bowing down to her in desperate attempt to make readers like her. 3) What has identities anything to do with spells?! Odin put the spell on the hammer, he should be able to remove it at any time, none of this "spell evolved beyond the caster" crap is gonna cut it when Odin enchanted weapons and beings far beyond Mjolnir's power and they've held longer and since before the hammer was even forged, so thats plot convience, pure and simple, so to not allow Odin to take it from her, thats it. 4) Thor is powerful being in his own right, making him unworthy was perfect opportunity to showcase that he isnt useless without needing external artifacts to amp up his power. Yes, he is more vulnerable, but instead of showing his ability to adapt to this new situation and develop new ways to approach conflicts, he runs around trying to find new cluthches to sit on. They didnt evolve his character, they just downgraded him. 5) And that last point is complete and utter shit. Thor has character flaws already: arrogance, superiority complex, attack first/ask questions later, etc.. Making him fearful is complete rupture of his character as being courageous and fearless are some of his greatest qualities. Following Gorr ideology's being right, he should be doubtful of his place in the world, put in question the need for Earth to still have gods, but not his own noble values. So not only did they create entirely new flaws for him, but their ascendent from his best qualities. You sound like a guy who havent actually read about Jane Thor/Unworthy Thor &/or know nothing about Thor Odinson and just spouted generic lines to look like you how writers craft stories. Sorry but you cant bring idiotic points like that when you dont know if it applies or not to the character -_-
@gabbonoo7 жыл бұрын
1) thor is mythological familiarity used commonly in the entertainment industry and adapted and changed radically for slight uniqueness. 2) she didnt literally copy his personality, i dont even know how to respond with how blatantly far off that is. if Heroic and reckless = personality, then you arent yet qualified to summarise. Youre right about the lack of innovation in powers. 3) it was said in the vid, the hammer doesnt comply with the spell completely since it has a will to interpret what and who and if "thor" even is. They havnt delved into the intricacies of spells in the comics far as i can see, so this may or may not have been the way its always been. this part is mostly your preference and since it seems too necessary to the plot and lacks foreshadowing, your against. 4) yes it seems like a missed opportunity. it's kinda like a Dr Who episode where you use all your good material and simply have him run away. 5) he's always had those fears but they havnt been covered in this detail; there is lots to suggest it, unlike the spell stuff. youre right about where im coming from, but it's important to understand the objectivity of your points and how much the writers must understand as well. at most, i would accuse them of treating the readers like those of an arc anime(atmosphere>plot hole proofing), but i wouldnt accuse them of butchering thor.
@bigbowss98177 жыл бұрын
Elliott Bohringer 1) Thor is a name associated to a mythological deity, because its part of public domain doesnt change that (and doesnt make it entertainment familiarity term, how ridiculous is that lol). 2) She did; she has no personality traits of her own. Jane Foster was always a boring character and lame Lois Lane copycat. She was meant to "ground Thor to humanity" the way Lois did for Superman, but it never worked and as Thor they expected to make her relevant again. The only unique thing about her is how cancer somehow made her worthy (and it does make sense since its established that certain people can be worthier in desperate situations), but thats not personality. As Thor, she is reduced to a gender swap with terrible writing around her. There are tons of existing underdeveloped female characters in Thor mythos: Sif, Amora, Hela, Gaea, Angela, Idùn, Karnilla, etc. and she's just overshadowing them even further... 3) Rob imports some of his own assumptions in the video. The only explanation given is spell evolving beyond Odin's control. The hammer doesnt make you Thor, it grants worthy individuals his power. Odin created that spell and there is no reason he cant unmake it. Its sentience was given by Odin, its power comes from holding a portion of the OdinForce within it, all things open to his control. It has nothing to do with my personal preferences, its just plot convinience taking precedence over continuity and thats a mark of bad writing... 4) Well seems we're in agreement on that at least. 5) Stop the damage control, he never had those flaws, fearlessness was always his strenght. Doubt about his place in the universe (which would have been an appropriate plot line) and fear of not being worthy and feeling of being worthless without his hammer (which is what they are going for) arent the same thing and the latter is an insult to his character. Taking readers for idiots is sign of bad writing and ignoring/changing core elements of the character in favor of promoting an agenda is an insult to the character as far as Im concerned. Anyway, everyone has their taste of stories, you can like what you want, we dont have to agree on this. Just know this current run is in opposition with 50 years of continuity for the character and a slap in the face to anyone that was a fan of the continuity built by Marvel for him during this time...
@gabbonoo7 жыл бұрын
your logic is strange and youre reading too much into what ive said plainly... i get your point though. bad change is bad, if not lazy, it was definitely lacking in compliance with our wants for believable continuity and familiarity enough to immerse
@jnix93857 жыл бұрын
Rob I need you to narrate my life's story
@Aellis47 жыл бұрын
J Nix "Let me tell ya something Rob corps. J Nix is the best thing to come out of DC Rebirth!"
@RenegadeStriker77 жыл бұрын
Aellis4 lmao that would be amazing.
@RenegadeStriker77 жыл бұрын
Aellis4 even better is morgan freeman narrating a comic and rob narrating a movie
@geovanyhernandez41407 жыл бұрын
J Nix for real!!!
@marcusavery16017 жыл бұрын
Same
@AshleyHosten7 жыл бұрын
This is honestly the best half hour I've ever spent watching KZbin. Well researched. Intelligently presented. Really great work.
@obikim115 жыл бұрын
*The Ultimate Hammer of Thor* Me:B-but it's an axe...
@salkohajdukovic83217 жыл бұрын
odinson is better than foster
@bigdurk41157 жыл бұрын
Der Rider I agree
@RoachMcToast7 жыл бұрын
Der Rider No kidding. Jane Foster is little more than Marvel trying to be trendy, and making a woman a big character. They didn't bother trying to write a new character. Thus we have unworthy Thor being way cooler.
@gorrevisor7 жыл бұрын
Judging from the video (did not read the comic) the logic is so vague. So what is his full name? Odinson? So if has children, they will be Odinson-son? Thor is clearly a name, not a title. That is saying Tony is a title, not "Iron Man".
@14megasxlr7 жыл бұрын
Their children will be named "(name) Odinson". Odinson works as a surname, because they are still descendants of Odin.
@ddavis89887 жыл бұрын
I definitely find Jane Foster more interesting. Thor has always been boring to me. He has his moments though
@-m.d.n-90197 жыл бұрын
Thor has relayed on Mjolnir too much , which he has said in his past comics himself. Thor is still Thor with and without Mjolnir , he just needs to gain his confidence again to get his abilities back which he does in Unworthy Thor issue 5. Also why can't THOR fly without Mjolnir? He has done it before by controlling the Wind like Storm , and wouldn't every time Thor throws Mjolnir in mid air make him fall?
@-m.d.n-90197 жыл бұрын
Kryptonian Excellence yeah , everyone looks over that . Even Ultimate Thor can be seen levitating without spinning his hammer .
@tomasxfranco7 жыл бұрын
*relied
@norwayjalyn7 жыл бұрын
so the collector wants to become collecTHOR... hehehehe
@chrisakeel58857 жыл бұрын
Norway Estrella nope he wants to be the ultimate collecTHOR😂
@kaikibestgrill49863 жыл бұрын
The door is on the left sir
@rokzum7 жыл бұрын
So is Loki, Odin, Buri, and Tyr just titles too?
@DarkNorthEmperor5 жыл бұрын
Jason Aaron: how can I ruin Thor? Oh, I know... I'll make him lose everything , even his name. Well, bravo
@lorensoth43657 жыл бұрын
Thor is not a title. That is his name. Just like Odin Borson... his father, and so forth. I personally dislike Jane Foster and the direction Marvel has gone with its Social Justice campaign. Hopefully marvel gets back to some basics... I like the Spiderverse epic, the Marvel Zombies, and the classic tales. Deadpool seems to be the only serious marvel comic out there....but hey... Evil Empire looks interesting.
@thwwinner61385 жыл бұрын
I agree
@XxKinGzxX1007 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this for over a year
@1000aaronaaronaaron7 жыл бұрын
just buy the comic......... bitch
@halfhalo337 жыл бұрын
jane being thor had like the lowest sales while Odinson did not.
@SuperSilver3165 жыл бұрын
it didn't, that is factually incorrect in every way, they sold about the same, and the numbers back that up
@pyrolee177 жыл бұрын
Whispered words of Nick Fury : " You cant lift bro" Drops hammer on moon
@Violet-xz9ez7 жыл бұрын
When did Thor learn to do armament haki ???
@EdenSgrave4 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking lmao
@jlcarid7 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons why almost everyone would be unhappy with the answer as to what was said to make Thor unworthy was that it was a horrible plot device the entire wrapped up concept was just weak. Most of the run was quite good this part however was not.
@TheAce7367 жыл бұрын
people wondering what nick fury said.. "Bitch you geussed it!...." "gorr was right"
@warAkAsacrifice6 жыл бұрын
HEHEHE I AM A SUPAHSTAR SKETCH [ace736] 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@kuja0257 жыл бұрын
the hammer doesnt want him to lift it anymore? that's trash writing. I was expecting Thor to have done something truly unworthy...
@jlcarid7 жыл бұрын
Pretty much
@aaronhapgood63837 жыл бұрын
Sociedade Nihilista i dont even now if this is the reason. why cant we ask mjolnir? it is obviously sentient
@Ravix4Horn7 жыл бұрын
Sentient Mjolnir.
@kuja0257 жыл бұрын
sentient bullshit
@fabianbiere56537 жыл бұрын
if recall correctly from a previous video it was a sentient space storm how sentient is not said
@alecro21125 жыл бұрын
So apparently this run is what Marvel is going to adapt for Thor: Love and Thunder. While it’s a good story, I have no clue how they plan to do it. Comic Thor gets his powers from the Hammer, whereas in the MCU, the Hammer is powered by Thor. Also, it doesn’t exist anymore. Taika Waititi has got his work cut out for him...
@rohanalias90533 жыл бұрын
It's taika waititi.thats the only hope
@MauZangetsu2 жыл бұрын
@@rohanalias9053 welp this aged like milk
@rohanalias90532 жыл бұрын
@@MauZangetsu I'm flabbergasted too
@PrincepsComitatus7 жыл бұрын
I am addicted to these videos the same way Thor is addicted to his hammer.
@kevinkhuu32947 жыл бұрын
Let me guess, The Unworthy Thor is the best thing to come out of DC rebirth, right?
@msrDeno7 жыл бұрын
Kevin Khuu yes
@PlsDontReadThis1237 жыл бұрын
Kevin Khuu its marvel though
@fila-sauce11937 жыл бұрын
Anthony Garcia joke
@spoonabenson87627 жыл бұрын
Unworthy Thor is the best thing coming out of Marvel Now 2.0
@tochiokeke54687 жыл бұрын
that's not something to live up to.
@15thsavior7 жыл бұрын
Spoona Benson It's the best thing coming out of DC Rebirth what are you talking about
@-m.d.n-90197 жыл бұрын
Spoona Benson True
@spoonabenson87627 жыл бұрын
Jayy Escobar I don't know
@TangledLion7 жыл бұрын
*Good Thing FIFY
@sauldogeman28166 жыл бұрын
“I’m writing the book and the character is whatever I say he is” DAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!
@unkletwann67977 жыл бұрын
I'm not a comic book reader. But, I truly appreciate this channel. My older brother is an avid reader and knows all of these stories. He always suggest I start reading them. But I never did. I always loves the cartoons and movies, just never read the books. But, now I'm a truck driver and this channel to me is like watching mini TV shows. Keep up the good work.
@davidmichel65507 жыл бұрын
This is definitely not the best Thor run
@theblitzbot54475 жыл бұрын
By Jason Aaron probs
@nappyhead825 жыл бұрын
Y'all both forgetting about Godbomb
@KangaJanga7 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear about Infamous Iron Man!
@hamsterstyless7 жыл бұрын
Great job as usual Rob. I'm looking forward to more Thor. Unfortunately, I'm still taking issue with Nick Fury bringing down Thor. It's not because I don't like Nick, I think he's one of the most complex characters in the marvel universe and I'm not happy about what Marvel has done with him. I just don't think he was connected to Thor enough to be able to cause that much doubt. Especially since there were others that could of done it like Steve Rogers, Odin, Jane Foster, even Beta Ray Bill. Why not use Loki. As good as the saga has been, it seems flawed now. The length of time that has past may have perhaps made expectations too high. I look forward to reading Jane Foster Thor, but I don't that this final reveal is good enough for Odinson fans. Am I knit picking, 100 percent. Considering how Thor has change, they should have made it perfect.
@KingxZangetsu7 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie love unworthy thor as well he waaaaaaay more badass now because he struggling and give more than he got
@tystall29306 жыл бұрын
Peter parker: miles. hero are my web shooters. you are now Peter Parker. Peter Parker (MM): what random guy( PP): yup. my name was a title. I'm nobody now.
@forsakenchao7 жыл бұрын
Omg wow. thank you Rob! been waiting for this for so long! :')
@joelangham48897 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't Bryan Cranston be a good nick fury
@jlcarid7 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ownthevoid7 жыл бұрын
Timmy Charles he's getting a bit old to play Fury in my opinion
@DannyTanimoto7 жыл бұрын
Well, he is the Danger after all
@bebopbountyhead7 жыл бұрын
Hidden comment squad!
@MyJourneyConcludes7 жыл бұрын
Only David Hasselhoff can play white Nick Fury
@TimPoultney7 жыл бұрын
"How the Thor became Unworthy" is the weakest reveal, strung out and teased for far longer than it was worth in the end. But, as Rob said, any answer would have evoked that reaction -- Even if they dropped it into the original story and we knew it back then, it would have been at the very least interesting, seeing Thor descend into the abyss of self-doubt and justify Gorr's opinion. Now it's just... meh. Bland. Thinly spread. Lacking flavour.
@poppyharlov68537 жыл бұрын
Yewd Notisum dude spoilers...
@Warlundrie7 жыл бұрын
I think th's the best thing they could have done and I did enjoy it for what it was. It was far better than some of the other thor stories I've read. I'm hopefull for when he gets his own hammer back
@ruyman907 жыл бұрын
Honestly I expected something like "the real Thor has been death long ago" Imagine someone whose name was actually Thor, was redheaded, and was the one whose powers are sealed in the hammer. While Odinson be a different son or maybe even adopted. Now that would be a surprise that would make Odinson think he isn't worthy of be called Thor and explain why they use the name Thor as a title.
@trebot92922667 жыл бұрын
less of an opinion and more of an inference.
@aredjayc28587 жыл бұрын
0:20 Rob I love you man, but this is just inexcusable
@raccoonstarsmember7 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is one of your best videos yet. Great job. You explain these stories so well. Thank you.
@Junkzillabox6 жыл бұрын
The song is called "Knights Templar 1" by Johannes Bornlof.
@cmm44497 жыл бұрын
THOR ODINSON IS THE ONLY THOR. I hate Jane Imposter Foster.
@farazatul60915 жыл бұрын
C MM yep me too
@jahirlopez18085 жыл бұрын
C MM yup
@lunosol89146 жыл бұрын
He became unworthy because feminist wrote him unworthy
@TontoGoldstein816 жыл бұрын
Stopped at "I like Jane Foster Thor more than Odinson."
@MalikEKC7 жыл бұрын
I'm not a Thor guy really but whoever the artist is here makes me want to buy this. Lots of great work with Thor.
@DarkTidings-7 жыл бұрын
Amazing commentary, my brother in law suggested your channel and it didn't disappoint. Looking forward to more videos!
@ericstaples72207 жыл бұрын
I can't believe Rob is drinking that Foster Thor koolaid.
@dahuterschuter7 жыл бұрын
Thor isn't a title.
@Mjolinir7 жыл бұрын
No way Jason Aaron's run will be thought of as the greatest run. He has done more damage to the character of Thor than any other writer in history. He has already undone everything about Thor that writers like Walk Simonson and Michael Avon Oeming have established, even stripped him of his own name and made it a title, that's just ridiculous.
@memeSSJG7 жыл бұрын
Mjolinir and that is your opinion. I agree with Rob. It's the best Thor story period imo
@Black-ICE927 жыл бұрын
He did good with god butcher but this shit with Jane foster is dumb. The hammer is a way to channel his powers not straight give it to him & make him seem useless without it
@ledzeppelinfan10017 жыл бұрын
This is the best run. It develops Odinson so fuckin much
@manuelcabeza55277 жыл бұрын
Michael Cooper every word you say is ignorant and stupid you attack a character because of gender portrayal yet don’t give a character a chance
@gfggism7 жыл бұрын
I don't like Jane Foster Thor not because she's a woman, but because her story is not good. Manuel what you said is a common tactic to shame, and discredit honest criticism. Jason Aaron generally does good work with the real Thor, but Jane Foster is just another SWJ character that's meant to push propaganda and because of everything they have done with her character, people hate he now. It's the same with Sam Wilson's Captain America. People liked Sam and Jane just fine in their respective rolls, and with Sam I actually didn't mind his Cap at the beginning. But as time went on, they have gotten worse. God Butcher and Unworthy Thor are amazing, and I freely say that those stories are some of the best Thor stories ever made. But at the end of it all when people look back on Jason Aaron's run, they will look with mostly hate. Give the man credit where it's due and shit where it's earned.
@conquered.kozmos13957 жыл бұрын
Gorr is the dopest story in marvel universe, that I've read. He deserves a movie.
@jyelverton87857 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. You are truly worthy, my friend.
@Ike_of_pyke7 жыл бұрын
Rob I like you and your video but this twist was Lllaaaammmmeeeee
@Ike_of_pyke7 жыл бұрын
I'd like to follow up with a direct response to you saying "Well no answer would be good " there are better answers than the one presented, the fact is Thor should have realized long ago Gorr was right, he's fought people including other gods for hundreds/thousands of years, he's been around the Greek pantheon which is the highest example of Gorr's point. The fact it took him this much out of it makes me wonder how he hasn't been before.
@woodspringstcg7 жыл бұрын
"Gorr was right.." Jason Aarons mic drop. 👍
@WhiteRaven6967 жыл бұрын
When were Proxima Midnight and Corvus Glaive confirmed for Thor: Ragnarok?
@Reichenfaust0997 жыл бұрын
3:10. Rob, seriously? You've covered the Entire Original Civil War, therefore you've read what the FF was doing there, and in one of the books, it featured the Hammer striking somewhere in the Southwest with Dr. Doom returning with it as he felt the death of Asgard and the Gods. After the whole stupid fiasco, whereupon Doom failed to lift it, Donald Blake arrived to pick it up. Hel, in the conclusion of Disassembled The Last Ragnarok, it blatanly reveals that Donald is back now that Thor was deceased. It was not until later on that they quietly shuffled Donald out, considering Sif was aiding him in the search for the Gods of Asgard in human form. HE even introduced himself in Broxton as Donald Blake. Not just that, but during Time Runs Out, Hyperion and Thor fought an "Unworthy Thor" whose hammer would an unworthy one the powers of thor.... Some kind of mirror universe where the gods are berserk. Please make sure the facts are correct bruh, we look to you for a lot of the epic storylines we cannot get ahold of.
@GriffinProductions7 жыл бұрын
I love Jason's writing style; callbacks, connecting plot points over long periods of time are amazing storytelling
@spykatt7 жыл бұрын
Rob, Jane Foster a better Thor than Odinson? You have lost it man. That is such BS and nonsense. I bet you think Irving Forbush would make a better Odin than Odin as well, right?
@roflmaobbqwtflol5 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why people like Jane foster Thor. I cant understand it, she supposedly loves Thor and yet when he goes missing she does not care. when she gets the hammer she never thinks of trying to restore Thor. She literally talks down to him when he is unworthy. She adopts an asgardian speech pattern to be more like him. I suppose I also don’t like how Thor is handled after becoming unworthy. They made him too depressing. If they had gone to other areas of his character such as him being half elder god and what that meant for his character. They could have given him alternate powers/abilities as a result and given him a training arc where he could have returned to Asgard to defeat mangog. I feel something like this would have made Jane foster a lot better as Thor fans like me would also be really interested in odinson and her. And how they would interact idk I just don’t like Jane foster Thor atm.
@whistlerwade7 жыл бұрын
I sense they are sewing the seeds for the Thanos and Hela connection I think we're going to see in the movies. Hela taking Death's role in infinity war...
@whistlerwade7 жыл бұрын
oh shit, I should have finished the video first before commenting and repeating Rob.
@BIGGREENWIENIE7 жыл бұрын
Jason forgets (or chooses to omit) that he's also the son of Gaea. He's not JUST a super stron Asgardian. That said, I agree. I LOVE Walt Simonson Thor from the 80s (I'm an old head) BUT, this run starting with Gorr and continuing with Unworthy fuckin rocks! The elephant in the room is that in the God Butcher story, in the future, old Thor has the hammer back but is still missing the arm. I'm thinking he'll get it back eventually. Also, I'm team Beta Ray (Walt Simonson era) lol. Loyal member of the RobCorps. Hope to run into you, Benny and the other Pull guys one of these days. Thank you for doing what you do bro
@kaine2419847 жыл бұрын
I would have had Nick Fury say"you weren't worthy of that hammer, Donald Blake was"
@Abdega6 жыл бұрын
He became unworthy when Nick Fury went up to Thor and was like: *HOW YOU DOIN LIL MAMA LET ME WHISPER IN YO EAR, TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT LIKE TO HEAR*
@newtybot6 жыл бұрын
*Its free real estate*
@kevinhill81936 жыл бұрын
Abdega No!
@jeannietraverso9036 жыл бұрын
Okay look at his name. Thor Odinson,God of Thunder. Odinson,Son of Odin,that's a title. God of Thunder,that's a title. Thor. That's his name,the only part of his name that is actually a name.
@EbanSoul7 жыл бұрын
Then why was his name Thor before he got the hammer .... backwards ass writing.
@TheSwooj7 жыл бұрын
EbanSoul yea I really don't like that
@cracklingcrow45197 жыл бұрын
+ComicsExplained I think the reason why Thor lost his hammer is because Thor is a bastard son and a bastard son cant be worthy.. so let me explain, in original sin right before fury whispers to Thor he mentions Thors sister Angela. in issue 2 -3 of the newer Angela series she talks about how there were two races that existed before Asgardians and when thros parents married they bascillly created Asgard and asgardians at the same time. But Odin had two kids before they married which means he had Loki and Thor before he met Thors mother Frigga. meaning the only the child that Odin and Frigga have together is Angela. Fury whisper to Thor "how could a bastard child be worthy to hold the hammer" and Thor came to realize that Frigga isnt his real mother. Thoughts?
@eviscos5 жыл бұрын
If anyone's looking for the song he plays there at the end, it's called "Knight's Templar" by Adriel Fair
@kevinx.42927 жыл бұрын
This might be a stupid question but why is his hand black from the bicep down
@stephenmontez35457 жыл бұрын
kevin x. Apparently he got it cut off and Odin replaced it with an arm made out of Uru metal.
@aaronjohnson97557 жыл бұрын
If you're going to take a character from existing "real" mythology, you better not retcon it. Thor was a man's name, not a title.
@bf90rono7 жыл бұрын
Thats why i like Tor more, the TRUE nordic god of thunder !
@Danem21865 жыл бұрын
Rob, I think you may have just inspired me to buy my first physical comic run. :)
@Gokid917 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for you to cover the God Butcher Thor story Rob. Jason Aaron killed that arc. so good
@jolsan14267 жыл бұрын
Whats the name of the song at the end ? truly epic.
@Partyffs6 жыл бұрын
Knights Templar 1 - Johannes Bornlöf
@TenaciousBuns7 жыл бұрын
what is that music at the end
@heyya13177 жыл бұрын
Dardude: sandstorm
@JungleMan7777 жыл бұрын
Are you a time traveler from the past when that joke was still funny?
@dirceusantos73087 жыл бұрын
some of the respect that I had for you regarding Thor suddenly faded. There's is only one Thor and is not Jane foster. Odinson is Thor last name not main name and Thor is no title in myths. still subscribed may had lost respect about jane but your content is still pretty entertaining
@lucyfaire19805 жыл бұрын
25:36 :We knew Thor was going to get his hammer back ever since the Godbutcher arc. King Thor was holding it...
@gretelmkii52157 жыл бұрын
22:37-22:42, Thor's face is just priceless. I for a fact didn't know this whole thing with Thor went as far back as Original Sin.
@lilboat84217 жыл бұрын
Rob, what would happen if Juggernaut ran into Mjolnir?
@comics_explained7 жыл бұрын
Nothing. Juggernaut has been hit with Mjolnir and laughed it off. It was funny lol.
@lilboat84217 жыл бұрын
ComicsExplained woah
@TaskMaster57 жыл бұрын
Are you insinuating what would happen if Juggs ran into the hammer when it was on the ground, thus inflicted with the enchantment? An unmovable object vs an unstoppable force? :P
@lilboat84217 жыл бұрын
Collin Shorette yeah that's what i was unsure of
@noetall367 жыл бұрын
ComicsExplained rob can you please revamp a juggernaut explained please?
@spoonabenson87627 жыл бұрын
I just was watching some Jimmy Fallon and drinking water then see the video pop up makes me chock in shock clicks video then proceed to make 4 comments on said video
@coolzoner97 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem I have with this series is that it is essentially just a set up for ultimate Thor or something. Another problem i have is the female Thor. Now a female thor is not a bad idea at all, its an interesting one to be honest but they fucked it up so hard to try and reach out to people who dont even read comics. Lady Sif or even Frigga would make a ton more sense of being worthy than Jane foster, I mean what the fuck did she do to be worthy? The character having a vagina wasn't enough, they just HAD to give her breast cancer too. Fuck Marvel
@MyJourneyConcludes7 жыл бұрын
I think it would've been interesting if Thor sacrificed himself to save Jane Foster by giving her the power of Thor. I don't know, I like Jane Foster Thor but the way they introduced her, basically nerfing the crap out of Odinson, was really weak. I imagine that they'll eventually make Jane normal again but at least my way you would maintain Odinson's honor and you would know that Jane Foster's Thor was just a temporary thing to cure her cancer.
@DarkEpyon1237 жыл бұрын
isnt she a EMT or something? why wouldnt someone who self-sacrifices on a daily basis, going into potentially dangerous situations and environments not be worthy of thor's hammer?
@MyJourneyConcludes7 жыл бұрын
+DarkEpyon123 No one is saying that she's not worthy at all. We're saying that there are plenty of other strong female characters that are far more deserving of the role.
@mills26397 жыл бұрын
She could get cured of her cancer with magic but she's so stubborn that she will only do it threw human means
@3PilaresDeOz7 жыл бұрын
god dammit rob, I didn't know I wanted to see Bill in Thor Ragnarok. damn thanks man :(
@Bloggerboy10007 жыл бұрын
Hickman's Avengers run comes full circle too. Everything dies, everything lives. What a perfect ending to a fantastic story.