How THRAWN defeated an ENTIRE FLEET with one ship (Legends) | Star Wars Battle Breakdown

[@EckhartsLadder]

CHAD THRAWN vs BETA NEW REPUBLIC. Follow on Twitter: twitter.com/eckhartsladder Download HEIR TO THE EMPIRE (or whatever): www.audibletrial.com/eckhartsladder

[@justinmaguire169]

I know this is the wrong video to put this comment on but I wanted to ask you to do a video request and I didnt want to forget it later so I went to your most recent video but... Halo Spartan vs Section 8 Prejudice soldier? Could you do this?

[@joby-wankenobinolan3428]

#AskEck what if palpatine had found the lost tribe of the sith on kesh

[@tr4br]

#AskEck canon states that the New Republic had captured 2 Executor-class dreadnougths. What do you think the New Republic did with them? Use them in their fleet, or scrap them for parts?

[@isaacgraff8288]

currently listening to Heir to the Empire. Epic book, and Palleon is one of my favorite characters.

[@davidnimatuj2983]

Is the audio book of it worth it. Thanks

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Chad Thrawn destroys New Republic with ships and logic

[@darthtroller]

Thren Admiro

[@avocadosaregud6508]

oh no it's u again

[@popcatexcepttheresnothing9651]

And not by plot armor

[@mundogameplay1341]

Hiii

[@sentientmustache8360]

@@avocadosaregud6508 i can never forget those eyes eyes eyes, e-e-eyes

[@OrbInDaFrame]

Thrawn is the only grand admiral to beat everyone who opposes him If he's defeated he learns from his mistakes and wins the battle We need more thrawns in life

[@cryptosporidium1375]

Fractured Frame he has an entire race to protect so yes, he is driven and cunning.

[@123455thatguy]

Yet he got yeeted out of reality by some fuckin space squids...

[@alexknj1]

Except that one time he got stabbed by his body guard.

[@OrbInDaFrame]

@@alexknj1 deadass

[@Dante.D.B.]

Ain't that the truth! That's why, I am reading both Legends and Canon Thrawn book trilogies to study all I can, even the little nuances. Want to learn more about Thrawn, think like him.

[@aaronzimmet3441]

"To defeat an enemy you must know them, not simply their battle tactics, but their history, philosophy, art." this is the thrawn doctrine in use right there, thrawn understands from the behavior of the commander who is commanding the task force and according adjusts his strategy accordingly and is victorious all because he knows the enemy all too well

[@operationstratos1013]

In other words, learn the enemy's tactics AND psychology. you will know where the enemy will walk before he does.

[@bernardoheusi6146]

It came from Sun Tzu. "Know your enemy and yourself and you will win all battles"

[@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447]

really, the way he conducted this battle isn't genius at all: he made a fairly baseless assumption, based on nothing but the enemy commander's species (which he also didn't have direct confirmation of, it was really just an educated guess), executed a very basic maneuver (margsabl), followed by another basic maneuver (flanking). and that's it. it's just basic maneuvers and a pretty stupid assumption

[@atomicbuttocks]

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer

[@Kyzen_Wrell]

Oftentimes it’s not how complex the maneuver is, it’s the execution and f it.

[@dimenzed]

Author Timothy Zahn has stated that Thrawn's character is a composite of various historical and fictional personalities, including Erwin Rommel, Robert E. Lee, Hannibal Barca, Alexander the Great, and Sherlock Holmes, to name a few. This speaks volumes about Thrawn!

[@AugustTheStag]

I think there's just the slightest bit of Captain Hook in there too. In the respect he has for his enemies. I love it lol

[@dimenzed]

@@AugustTheStag indeed!

[@zyanego3170]

I think Napoleon is in this too

[@christopherbravo1813]

ironic, since all of these figures ended up losing, dying, or both in the end.

[@mafia_boss_neto]

@@christopherbravo1813 Ah yes because we have had *immortal* Generals in the past. Like Julius Caesar and George Washington!

[@Tuskin38]

I love that Filoni, or whoever wrote the episode, put this manoeuvre into Clone Wars.

[@weldonwin]

I was less thrilled when they retconned the maneuver as having been invented by Asokha

[@dillondude1254]

And then in canon thrawn, Padme tells Thrawn about this strat. "General Skywalker said he'd be a one-man Marg Sabl. What did he mean?" "Oh. It's a battle tactic invented by his former Padawan apprentice. A warship turns its hangar bay away from its attacker and launches its fighters unseen. They stay in the ship's visual shadow while they form up and accelerate to attack speed. Then they come around their ship from all sides, attacking the enemy from every direction at once." "Interesting. I can see how that could be useful against certain species."

[@Tuskin38]

weldonwin that was the best part though

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@weldonwin Marg Sabl was a pre-existing move, Thrawn just knew when to use it.

[@dankmatter3068]

Nah they had it the opposite way, where the bridge was protected

[@jonathanle2787]

I once defeated an entire buffet with one stomach. Gastrointestinal genius here.

[@kwamedamuah1838]

LMAOOO

[@randbrannigan2590]

Man, he should have just warp speeded into their fleet. That would have helped a lot.

[@ventrilo0666]

@Ivan Chernyshev never heard of escape pods? Good for droids and Grand Admirals alike

[@jackrutledgegoembel5896]

@@ventrilo0666 His ship was fine

[@analtubegut66]

@Ivan Chernyshev - /thread

[@ribozyme2899]

Thrawn is good, but I doubt he'd be able to ram 4 frigates at once with a single SD.

[@filipstellberg8280]

Thrawn would not have needed hyperspace ramming. However, any one of the *opposing* ships could have easily defeated him if they wanted to.

[@inquisitionagent9052]

Join us next time to see how Thrawn took over a whole system that one time with nothing more than a TIE fighter, toothpaste and harsh language.

[@darthrevan704]

Arhaam Haque he is the sly marbo of starwars

[@lordfrostwind3151]

@Darth Revan I don't know I think he's a good candidate for being the new Creed, only because the Tactical Genius memes would be glorious.

[@vadandrumist1670]

And he didn't even need the TIE fighter.

[@GlidingZephyr]

Grand Admiral Thrawn was the MacGyver of the Star Wars universe. All he needed was a Swiss army knife and a single stick of dynamite, while any other Imperial Admiral would need twenty Star Destroyers with hangers filled to the brim with TIE Defenders and Bombers.

[@nickdouglas736]

Honestly a heavily modified ISD like the Chimaera should be able to take on four Assault Frigates with relative ease. The Chimaera also has more fighters than 'normal' ISDs so as annoying as this Thrawn circle jerk is this battle is not that unrealistic.

[@Dante.D.B.]

"Again, Captain, very good. Yes. Myrkr -- or more precisely, one of its indigenous animals -- was the first piece. The second is on a world called Wayland. A world for which, thanks to the Obroans, I finally have a location." "I congratulate you. May I ask just what exactly this puzzle is?" "Why the only puzzle worth solving, of course. The complete, total, and utter destruction of the Rebellion." _- Grand Admiral Thrawn and Captain Gilead Pellaeon._

[@GivemesubscribersIwantacheckma]

Next up: How Thrawn conquered the entire galaxy with a few ships. Oh wait...

[@tylerjones7592]

Give me 100,000 subscribers, I want a check mark he would have if it wasn’t for rukh

[@owenparris7490]

The Marg Sabl is one of the most creative tactics I've seen in sci-fi, let alone Star Wars. Now if only the bridge was on the ventral side of a star destroyer...

[@ethancarlson1973]

A very creative tactic indeed.

[@CABRALFAN27]

Or the hanger was on the Dorsal side, like the Venator. Actually, didn't Ahsoka do essentially a modified Marg Sabl in the Ryloth arc of TCW?

[@owenparris7490]

@@CABRALFAN27 In fact she did.

[@isaacfesmire1465]

In the new canon Ashoka is actually the one who created the marg sabl, named it, and taught it to Anakin, whom Thrawn learned it from.

[@owenparris7490]

@@isaacfesmire1465 Yeah, forgot that. But it was Thrawn's idea in Legends, I think.

[@sugdolomar]

Ahsoka: *creates Marg Sabl* Thrawn: "Im'ma write that down!"

[@Whitesnake18]

You noticed that too?

[@joby-wankenobinolan3428]

I was just thinking that but if anything the clone wars copied heir to the empire since it came first

[@ShadowGhost0117]

Khalduras yes but remember that the Venator class Star destroyers had the main hanger opening on the top along with the bridge (fighters never launched from the bottom docking bay of that version) so considering the design it worked out.

[@podemosurss8316]

@@joby-wankenobinolan3428 Filoni mentioned that: it was a homage since he himself is a fan of the Thrawn thrilogy.

[@jawwer00]

More like created through thrawn, retconned for Ashoka. Because remember, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.

[@heavyarms55]

Thrawn is such an awesome character. What really sets him aside from almost all other leaders (aside from pretty much only those who served closely under him): 1. He wins through his intelligence, not raw power. 2. He did not carry out acts of intense violence just to hurt and frighten, everything he did was for tactical and strategic reasons. 3. He did not have the Imperial prejudices that so many other Imperials have.

[@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447]

really, the way he conducted this battle isn't genius at all: he made a fairly baseless assumption, based on nothing but the enemy commander's species (which he also didn't have direct confirmation of, it was really just an educated guess), executed a very basic maneuver (margsabl), followed by another basic maneuver (flanking). and that's it. it's just basic maneuvers and a pretty stupid assumption

[@anb8946]

nice little 3rd grade interpretation of a comic book, really insightful

[@heavyarms55]

@@anb8946 Nice random insult on a two year old comment. Real mature.

[@anb8946]

@@heavyarms55 man if u didn't want to be insulted don't put stupid shit on the internet

[@heavyarms55]

@@anb8946 Lol okay wow dude. You should really take your own advice. Are you that lonely that you need to pick a fight with someone over a comment from 2 years ago? That's pretty pathetic. Hope your life gets a little better. There's got to be better things to waste your time on.

[@robertagu5533]

Thrawn is basically an Alien Sherlock Holmes turned into a fleet Admiral in his CORRECT deduction as to WHO EXACTLY he was up against, WHAT they was gonna do, AND exactly how to defeat them. All just from only LOOKING at them and watching the formation and type of units moved in. Now THAT would be a crossover. Sherlock Holmes VS Thrawn of the Chiss in a battle of wits..

[@jasjasbinks4900]

Thrawn vs Sherlock with Magnussen and John watching on the sidelines would be f hilarious and amazing oml

[@rhymenoceros3303]

I really can't wait to see what Disney Thrawn has cooking up in the Unknown Regions now that he doesn't have to worry about the Emperor coming after his neck.

[@kellyweingart3692]

lol

[@analtubegut66]

space whales....

[@dimenzed]

It will most likely be something underwhelming as was his story so far under Disney, compared to his true EU story!

[@christophernemeth421]

@@dimenzed I have to agree. I liked seeing Thrawn, but the Disney canon version doesn't match up to the original

[@germangamingvideos6069]

@@teddyfresh9605 I will not get that image out of my mind now -_-

[@Dante.D.B.]

I literally just read this, the other day. Still reading the book now. From what I read now, I can truly see why people were and still are fascinated by Thrawn. Truly a wonderful book. Honestly, I am just trying to study everything I can about Mitth'raw'nuruodo right now. I need some Thrawn style of intelligence and wisdom in my life right now. Thanks again for another video Ecks!

[@VictorIV0310]

An establishing character moment for the Chiss Grand Admiral.

[@GlidingZephyr]

Imperial Army Lieutenant: "Grand Admiral, our Imperial Commandos would need at least two Type 4 Thermal Detonators and be equipped with the latest thermal imaging systems for their optic gear to ensure mission success." Thrawn: "And what do they have available, right now?" Imperial Army Lieutenant: "We can give the platoon a belt of 12 basic concussion grenades to use, in a pinch. As far as the optics are concerned, our lead IT Contractor has said that the software needs an upgrade that he can't decrypt, yet." Thrawn: "Demote the IT Contractor to restroom attendant in the Chimera officer's lounge. As for equipping the Commando troopers, let the Noghri handle this mission, instead. They can achieve the same goal with some ignited manganese shavings and a simple flashlight, if need be." Imperial Army Lieutenant: "Right away, sir!"

[@phrophetsamgames]

In both canons, the Marg Sabl was a pre-existing move when Thrawn uses it. Legends Marg Sabl strategy was somewhat known and he just knew to use it against the specific species he was facing at the time. New Canon Marg Sabl was created by Ahsoka Tano, and the Marg Sabl itself is a flower from Togruta, Ahsoka's homeworld (that blooms in a certain way).

[@jeremydale4548]

I woulda called it the Tano Maneuver but Marg Sabl works since It relates to Ahsoka's planet

[@dillondude1254]

And then in canon thrawn, Padme tells Thrawn about this strat. "General Skywalker said he'd be a one-man Marg Sabl. What did he mean?" "Oh. It's a battle tactic invented by his former Padawan apprentice. A warship turns its hangar bay away from its attacker and launches its fighters unseen. They stay in the ship's visual shadow while they form up and accelerate to attack speed. Then they come around their ship from all sides, attacking the enemy from every direction at once." "Interesting. I can see how that could be useful against certain species."

[@christopherbravo1813]

wait, they seriously gave Ahsoka credit for the Marg Sabl?

[@dillondude1254]

@@christopherbravo1813 in canon, yeah that did

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@dillondude1254 that's dumb!

[@dillondude1254]

@@christopherbravo1813 i think it's cool that they added it at all

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@dillondude1254 hm, it is a good reference, true...

[@infinity_eic]

Imagine if Thrawn was a Sith? How OP would he be

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

He would be too damn powerful if he was Force sensitive!

[@marsar1775]

"Hes too dangerous to be left alive"

[@zephsuki]

Palpatine would try and kill him

[@JonnieK2006]

@@zephsuki and fail miserably

[@morromenos1016]

Wouldn't that be Darth Revan with slightly better tactical abilities?

[@MACE_HINDU]

What I was most impressed by was when he went against a separatist fleet out numbered and out guned this was when he was still in the chiss defense fleet and the separatist sent a fleet out but what he did was he kept going at them then pulling back for like 5 times but what he learned was that the Droid fighters only had a certain range before needing to go back to not lose signal from the control ship and he used that to just wipe them out when I heard that I was like yup this foo way OP

[@samspeed6271]

To be honest, I'm not entirely convinced. Granted, Thrawn's tactic was genius and he did a textbook Thrawn elimination. But there's only two possible courses of action, all others are just one of these two with a slight variation: you either leave it because you believe it isn't a threat; or you kill that TIE because you believe it is a threat. Yeah, sure, the magnitude of your response will be a factor, but the bottom line is that there are bound to be more species than possible courses of action here. You cannot tell just from that who will be on the bridge of the lead ship or what race they are. I would've sent a flight of X-wings after those scouts, not even a full squadron, but I know some of my friends would've left it and I know others who would've sent a substantial force after them to make a point to Thrawn that he's not got a fighter advantage. I can assure you, my friends are all human. OK, maybe my friend Connor would be better described as a human calculator, but... Great video Eck

[@toomanyaccounts]

the alien commander only destroyed one tie fighter not all three nor did he order any fleet maneuvers. just shot at one tie. that isn't something a human commander or many species would do when faced with a small sentry force heading their way. a human commander may think the three sentry ships are part of some feint and order the ships in the fleet to manuever or just move to kill with overwhelming force on the three then advance full speed to attack the star destroyer.

[@lordfrostwind3151]

To Thrawn's credit, it does seem there are only a few races with a history of void combat in Star Wars. Looking for tactical patterns in that smaller pool does make life easier

[@Lightwolf_VR]

You're thinking in 2D terms. This is the facts as we know them. Facts: 1) the rebel commander's response revealed him. 2) His species is recently uplifted, with a history of finding glory in cavalry action. 3) this commander was stated to have a problem with chaotic action and thinking in 3D. Educated guess: rebel commander came out of hyperspace with his fighters forward in a careful V formation (or similar cavalry formation from his homeworld), a clear cavalry analog, very pretty, and with minimal 'vertical' dispersion. Thrawn notes this. He sends in a picket from an oblique trajectory. Closer to a fighter group in the middle in absolute terms, closer to the edge if the enemy commander is using a 2D representation and thinking only in 2D. Enemy commander responds in 2D.

[@samspeed6271]

@@Lightwolf_VR, that's an interesting way to put it. I guess I was thinking more 2D than 3D. Makes sense. But I still think that it's a bit much trying to work out what species your opponent is based on their first move. You could guess what kind of commander your opponent is (aggressive, cautious, defensive, 2 dimensional) based on their response and formation, but using that to work out a species is a bit much. Maybe the guy likes western films and got his V formation from watching John Wayne films that rather than it being culturally engrained because of his race. But who cares if Thrawn got the race right? He got the tactics of the guy perfectly nailed and Thrawn still whooped their hides.

[@Lightwolf_VR]

@@samspeed6271 There's definitely an element of a Sherlock scan to it. On some level, we're meant to believe the logical jumps made because it's Sherlock (or Thrawn) making them, trusting that it makes sense to the character. But on a meta level we don't have enough sentient species to compare to know if it'd work. Maybe it was a cavalry formation famous among the species? Maybe it was in the lines (humans prefer diamond or linear patters, maybe this species likes to organize differently?) But you're right. To my memory, we're never actually told if Thrawn was right that it was that species. But whatever the case, the rebel commander thought like one, and that was the important bit.

[@mightyone3737]

Good vid, but I often feel a bit like Thrawn's tactics are kinda a McGuffin, in that they work regardless of making strict sense. 100 x-wings vs 6 squads of ties is not going to end well for example, even with surprise. That said, in Tie Fighter, Thrawn as a Vice Admiral has a mission in which you use a Tie Bomber as an escort, in part relying on it's healthy load out of missiles to take out enemy fighters, and if Thrawn had a few extra squadrons of Tie Bombers, or maybe Tie Avengers, they could possibly do some serious damage when they surprise the X-wings, but Tie Fighters lack missiles traditionally, so they are limited in what they could do. Either way, I enjoyed Thrawn immensely as a kid, and enjoyed this tale a great deal.

[@christophernemeth421]

At this point the Empire had outfitted The Interceptors with shields, but that still would have been a tough fight.

[@DIEGhostfish]

Yeah and his art and three (Possibly unmanned?) sentry ships getting destroyed letting him figure out the enemy's tactic was a bit much. (Though i will defend his sherlock move with the Falcon Lady Luck docking to the death.)

[@Draycoe]

Thrawn gets the most powerful upgrade, plot armor. Seems only fair, the Empire has been sadly lacking for the most part.

[@zygo0]

Part of the problem is that the military actions themselves are kept kinda vague in a lot the books and there’s no way to know if the author considered a ‘wing’ of x-wings to be as many ships as Eck said. Thrawns moves are pretty easy to consider either asspulls or brilliance when it’s not clear just what, precisely, the forces available are.

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@zygo0 It could possibly be Wing Pairs of X-Wings rather than three-squad rebel Wings, since normally Assault frigates carry no fighters, or parasite fighters at best.

[@silverchairsg]

When Thrawn completed his capital ship positioning class at the Imperial Naval Academy, he shook the instructor's hand and commended him on his knowledge.

[@Ashguy733]

DarthAngelus' animated episodes of Heir to the Empire show this tactic beautifully.

[@locarno24]

Remember that Pellaeon says "rotating the ship gives the fighters some cover........but the rest is just a classic Marg Sabl" - I.e. rotating the ship is NOT a standard part of the attack pattern he was confident the elomin couldn't handle. I imagine things happened pretty much as you describe, though - rotating the ship to hide the mart sable deployment till the last moment (because he needs the enemy commander reacting on instinct reflex, not having time to defer to a non elomin subordinate's advice).

[@grand-dadmiral]

If you think about it, the Marg Sabl is just a really lazy spin. But it's still a good trick.

[@ryangarcia985]

I just finished Heir to the Empire and I loved that this is the Intro!

[@zephsuki]

*Ooh boy I can't wait to try this in empire at war....*

[@zephsuki]

@Eye Above All yeah you can't lol

[@speed150mph]

Here’s a better one, how about that time Thrawn defeated a fellow grand admiral and 3 imperial star destroyers with just the Chimera with no casualties to either side, and without actually being on board his ship, only by leaving his captain written instructions beforehand? Aka, that time Grand Admiral Savit got torn apart by Thrawn because Thrawn watched him play music.

[@karlrovey]

If he merely performed, the music would have been useless to Thrawn. Rather, it was because Savin was not only a performer, but also a composer and conductor.

[@speed150mph]

Karl Rovey true. The reason I didn’t get that deep into it was my comment was already rather wordy. But you are correct. “Normally, of course, music is useless to me... there is too much interpretation in performance and direction, too many variables creating uncertainty and bias and all but eliminating focus.” “But he doesn’t just compose music, he also plays, and conducts it!” “Indeed, assistant director. Moreover, He has done so in public, where both visual and auditory recordings have been made.”

[@nathanielrourke8886]

Is this Disney or legends?

[@speed150mph]

Nathaniel Rourke technically Disney. It’s from the last boom of Timothy Zahns new Thrawn Trilogy (which I’m not going to lie, I personally like this trilogy better than the legends trilogy. I love Thrawn, and having this trilogy focused almost completely on him (as in not jumping around between Leia, Luke, Mara Jade ect. Like in the old trilogy) and seeing more of him in actual battle against an enemy, not just directing forces in the background.

[@nathanielrourke8886]

@@speed150mph to each his own, I preferred the modern leader take from the original.

[@TheDaltonius]

Game: There are four options Thrawn Gaming: But may I offer an alternative?

[@thedatatreader]

After a year, I finally figured it out. The bridge was facing the X-Wings so they were planning to hit it basically in single file (since they only shot down one Tie it would imply they hate attacking on more than one direction). This in turn also gave the bridge commanders a visible target to send the now hidden waves of Ties to flank and rout all of the attacking X-Wings at their leisure. Then, without any X-Wings to pick at the Chimera, they could destroy the Rebel ships from much closer. The logic seems pretty sound all things considered.

[@ThatDragonGuy]

Lord, if Thrawn was with the T'au Empire in Star Wars. He would've already conquered Terra. With how damn OP he is in Legends

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

Would he even endure the Taus philosophy?

[@cryptosporidium1375]

JASOE the All-seeing Omnipresent Eye not for long

[@inquisitionagent9052]

A logical mind like Thrawn would surely best any other Logical enemy in any other universe. But when faced with an enemy who defies all logic and sound strategy what is one to do?

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

@@inquisitionagent9052 Xeelee stomp.

[@cryptosporidium1375]

Arhaam Haque by making his own logic that can’t be disimulated.

[@nozero1]

The title should be "How a moron Rebel commander choked seeing a basic Imperial strategy, manages to get his entire fleet destroyed."

[@pablogr6960]

this is pretty good, one of the best thrawn battles in the channel

[@JustJoshReal]

Im reading the book, that chapter was just badass

[@andrewcoe3343]

So ahsoka used the Marg Sable strategy during the ryloth campaign? _Or I guess technically invented it._ Although I suppose it's a bit different because of the location of the hangar on republic cruisers.

[@CABRALFAN27]

If anything, it works better with a Venator

[@EthanKironus8067]

Thank you for doing all these great Thrawn tactical analyses! Pellaeon--as a character overall, he's my favourite. So well-rounded, and is around for so long.

[@isaachooper4058]

The thing that thrawn did was the battle strategy that anakin skywalker used in the storm of ryloth

[@xDxD-hm5vt]

No, Ahsoka did.

[@isaachooper4058]

Oh yeah forgot sorry 🤷🏼‍♂️😂

[@lonestarwolfentertainment7184]

I’m not ashamed to admit I was and still am rooting for Thrawn and his Empire.

[@tarroakh3562]

The First Order: *builds Starkiller base* Thrawn: "What a lovely gift!" *somehow hijacks the Starkiller base full of FO assets for himself with a squadron of TIE Fighters and a platoon of few soldiers* If only Thrawn is present during those days. Well, a kid can dream. 😐

[@DarksaberForce]

Empire of the Hand rules all.

[@tarroakh3562]

@Trey Stephens I never said it did.

[@CHRF-55457]

Thrawn's favorite move.

[@lindada4495]

He even defeated whole phoenix fleet and reduced them into a few ship.

[@nicorozner7417]

Next on Eckharts Ladder: Thrawn defeats 42 ships with a butter knife

[@SirMattomaton]

Grand Admiral Thrawn is the Sun Tzu of Star Wars.

[@1KosovoJeSrbija1]

When you understand a specie's art you understand that species. Me: looks at our art. s@%t

[@gravytube4099]

Next week we'll be covering how Thrawn conquered the entire New Republic with a single B1 Battle Droid and a thermal detonator

[@lukasperuzovic1429]

Thrawn conquers the entire galaxy while on the toilet using a toothbrush and some shampoo

[@clonesolar]

Thrawn was a one of a kind specimen, he was smarter and more capable than others. We all love Thrawn, he should of been emperor.

[@coletakkish4389]

Coming back to this video to... prepare myself

[@beautifulfilmstudios7324]

The New Republic: winning the war Literally out of nowhere: Grand Admiral Thrawn joins the battle!

[@mercerholt8299]

This is why I love Thrawn, he makes it a point to understand his potential foes so that he knows all of the capabilities.

[@gilbertgreen7418]

Thrawn has quickly become my favorite character.

[@Springfield1191]

What I often see in the comments are people referring to what Thrawn uses on the surface to study a species, their art. It's naive to think that the only thing he studied or understood was their art. But what I've discovered is that the collective art can reveal the psychological, cultural, spritual and tactical values of a particular group as well as reveal their goals, needs and desires. The art revealed to him the psychological flexibilities and rigidities of a given society or rather a group from that particular society. He was a tactical genius because he could recognize and understand these patterns in order to exploit their weaknesses and vulnerabilities. This trait also made him an exceptional strategist and leader. He had the ability to read between the lines of what was on his opponent's surface to the ingrained instinctual core underneath. He was not without mistakes but his ability to learn from the errors he made on the fly often altered the course of many battles in his favor when everyone could have expected a dismal outcome for the Empire. I would like to have seen him as a military leader of the New Republic or at least an Imperial leader in a joint venture. If only both sides could have stopped fighting long enough to understand one another, I daresay that either The Expanded Universe (I'll never call it Legends... because Disney) or Disney Canon Universe could both be vastly different than what they turned out to be.

[@lenkagamine4145]

that only works if every single culture HAS psychological rigidities. Most good commanders are quite flexible and cant reliably be counted on to always try the same tactic. Even if you knew everything there was to know about, say, german culture, human psychology, and everything else you still wouldnt be able to reliably predict every single tactic the germans might use

[@Springfield1191]

@@lenkagamine4145 While this is true, finding out what ingrained psychological rigidities there are in a particular culture makes it easier to find a weakness somewhere in that culture. This makes it possible to turn that into a tactical exploit. Because you brought up German culture I'll cite a tactic used during the second world war by allied forces that exploited a cultural rigidity amongst the Germans. Germans at the time were a very hygienic culture and they didn't like any kind of dirtiness or smelliness, so allied forces would go long periods of time without bathing. Often this lead to allied soldiers that were captured in small groups to be sent back to their side immediately because the German soldiers simply didn't want to have to carry a stinky trooper to be processed as a prisoner of war. This led to that single stinky trooper to go back to the allied lines carrying information on German positions back to their leaders. Gives a whole new meaning to the term "Dirty Tactics". It's a perfect example of a cultural rigidity being used to an advantage by the opposing side. TL;DR It's not about predicting their tactics, it's about exploiting weaknesses in their tactics.

[@onehpwarrior3170]

Thrawn is just that good

[@absolutellad6908]

One HP Warrior yeah

[@m4_patriot374]

Thrawn is the cooler alien from "Im Blue".

[@AugustTheStag]

I'm reading this right now and was a little confused about the maneuver. This helped me understand better. Thanks!

[@ussneworleans7490]

5:01 reminds of that one episode in clones wars where they have the venators under armour aimed at the enemy while launching fighters from other side

[@tilltronje1623]

We need an in depth version of his battle against Admiral Sevit in Treason

[@Captain_Rex14]

One Star Destroyer vs 4 Frigates and Starfighters. Sounds like an easy win for anyone who isn’t dumb.

[@aidanbove231]

This was so satisfying to read in the book

[@DarksaberForce]

@Trey Stephens Heir to the Empire

[@NexusDex]

I actually got to use this method in Space Engineers in a Battle. Worked way better than expected.

[@DarthHavoc1]

Hey wait didn’t Ashoka do something like this in the clone wars cartoon during the liberation of Ryloth?

[@aaronzimmet3441]

Sort of, her maneuver was a two part, on one hand it was meant to protect the resolute from the incoming fire of the separatist frigates and cover the bombers as they launched to ambush the clankers

[@approcolli8478]

It was kinda copied From Heir to the Empire in TCW

[@rivepest6158]

@@approcolli8478 "kinda"

[@macwade2755]

Thrawn is awesome!

[@hughgedney3393]

Great video EckhartsLadder.

[@ShustnovikGaming]

Thrawn is the Sun Tsu of Star Wars

[@ThejollyFrenchman]

Thrawn was the kind of villain that's rare for a series like Star Wars. Soft spoken, intellectual, and not cartoonishly over the top evil. Creating new villains after the end of RoTJ is particularly difficult, which is why most EU and Disney Canon villains suck, the Yuuzhan Vong being particularly egregious, but Thrawn is a great one. He's a lot more intimidating than most Sith Lords. Sure, he can't take the heroes in a melee fight, but he's smarter than they are. The idea of an enemy that can predict your every move before you even make it, is terrifying.

[@therearefourlights6926]

I actually like Thrawn, he's an interesting character, a compentent admiral, sort of an evil Sherlock Holms. That said, it's easy to win when the writers hand you the victory. This story is a good example. The hype: Thawn is such a genius he defeated an ENTIRE FLEET WITH ONE SHIP!!! Yes but his one ship was a match for the four capital ships opposing him and his tie fighters a near match for the Rebel starfighters. Then the story has his opponent throw away their starfighter, looses all coherence and just die for him... sigh... Thawn gains his insights from stereotypes of entire species derived by studying their collective art, as though that could let him know what a given individual would do... Sigh... Honestly, the wing commanders would have reoriented their fighters on the Ties, they would loose some fighters to the initial surprise and the battle would degenerate into a masive dogfight, but given their numbers and the shielding of the Rebel ships they would slowly come out on top, meanwhile the Assault Frigates would have used the time to close on the Star Destoyer forcing a strategic retreat by Thawn. But that's just my opinion... The only way I see to explain Thawn's victory is that the leader of the Rebel's was a political appointee with no actual combat skill, given control of green forces with no combat experience, whom he got killed when he faced something a little out of the ordinary because he panicked.

[@podemosurss8316]

Well, he isn't evil, I mean, he's just on the villain's side but isn't a bad person himself

[@therearefourlights6926]

Well how would you define evil in this case? He was actively trying to kill rebel/new republic forces to prop up an Empire that (previously) had Palpatine and Vader at its head, and liked to commit its resources to build planet killing weapons and enslaving native populations. I don't think he did evil for evil's sake, however he was very cold blooded and calculating and would not shy away from doing whatever he saw as necessary to succeed. The question of the right and wrong of his actions would, I think, be quite irrelevant to him, only the efficiency mattered, making him amoral at best. Still an interesting and compelling character.

[@RealVeers]

Welcome to the Thrawn Fanboy Circle Jerk :)

[@christophernemeth421]

You have to remember that in Legends Thrawn was aware of the threat of the Far Outsiders (ie the Vong). He sided with the Empire due to its Military Strength and it being a dictatorship. He was trying to preserve the Empire since those qualities would give the galaxy best chance to defeat the Vong.

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@youtubestayatyourrootsforfsake Given via retcon the actual commander who defied Thrawn's tricks survived, when Thrawn said he "Destroyed their world" (A kaleesh colony world led by an adopted "Kaleesh" starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Bentilais_san_Sk%27ar ) Thrawn may have just Ion bombarded the world back to the stone age. And the New Republic did exactly that to the Yevethan homeworld years later.

[@patchworkfellow]

Admittably, if Thrawn had a Star Destroyer, the battle wouldn’t have been far from impossible but what do I know

[@RikkiTikkiTavi290]

An A wing took down a Super Star Destroyer so I think 100 X-wings are a pretty serious deal when combined with 4 cruisers.

[@patchworkfellow]

RikkiTikkiTavi Fair Point

[@Paerigos]

You know its impossible to sign for audible so many times as you suggest :D

[@ryancarrell3186]

Coolest character introduction ever.

[@picktrees4206]

If we get to see more of thrawn in the cinamatic universe, i hope he's introduces like this. Or maybe a space fight and we see a star destroy take up this tactic 4:56

[@wendyandmiketerell997]

Can we all just agree that thrawn is sci fi admiral/general Jesus

[@samuelvoegelin7249]

Finally more Battle Breakdown!

[@BernieGolgo13]

Can you explain the modified Marg Sabl with Thrawn's "Sling Shot" trick he used in one of the cannonized novels?

[@hoopsonwheels]

On the next video we look at how thrawn trained a rancor with a rolled up newspaper.

[@tylerjones7592]

Alex Arriaga I would like to see that

[@ATEG8374]

Ahsoka somewhere: "YOU DARE USE MY SPELLS AGAINST US, BLUE-BOY??!!"

[@Arashmickey]

Marg Sabl, eh? Gotta admit that was very artistically done, G.A.T.

[@RikkiTikkiTavi290]

too soon

[@frankboi3099]

I remember the Marg Sabl was used in the Clone Wars. Specifically the Battle of Ryloth.

[@SchneeflockeMonsoon]

#AskEck Which Thrawn is the true Thrawn, and not his guise? The OT (Thrawn Trilogy) The retcon (Hand of Thrawn Duology) The new (Disney Thrawn) Also, how did Mara Jade & Luke fall in love? Also, who/how did they propose?

[@emperorpalpatine6460]

Next: how thrawn destroyed a corellian corvette with a blue milk.

[@samuelmiller1691]

What is that ending scene in the video with the captiol ships fighting?

[@VegetaLF7]

Battle of the Dreadnoughts, a video he posted last year. A New Republic Viscount vs the Reborn Empire's Eclipse-II

[@samuelmiller1691]

@@VegetaLF7 So cool. Thanks!

[@daniellaster4899]

I would love to see him talk about the battles in the new thrawn trilogy

[@jaffarebellion292]

I once heard Thrawn conquered three systems with a pencil... A F****N PENCIL!

[@petulantpeterturbo]

In the next episode: Grand admiral Thrawn takes down an entire tyranid hive fleet with just a piece of chewed gum and a lighter!

[@MoreEvilThanYahweh]

I wish Thrawn's art psychology gimmick was shown to backfire a few times as well, like against a commander that was their species's equivalent of a weirdo or insane.

[@magythemage]

thrawn: Beats an entire fleet with one ship the rest of the empire: Loses with an entire fleet vs a few fighters

[@helpmereach690subscribers3]

The time Thrawn took over an entire planet with a rock and a piece of string.

[@BearNDragon]

The Corporate Sector was where the separatists, the casino planet in Last Jedi was in The Corporate Sector.

[@podemosurss8316]

Thit battle was so good it was retconned in The Clone Wars (albeit with a Venator against 6 Munificients)

[@robertbarrows6687]

You should have used the Clone Wars episode where Ahsoka demonstrates the Mark Sable for a better visual guide.

[@suiadan_4283]

smart move Thrawn, using Ashoka's strategy during the clone wars.

[@CHEF-55457]

Thrawn's almost like Darth Revan in a way except Thrawn hates the Republic and wants it gone while Revan wants to keep it.

[@alexisbeaumont107]

Loved that book !

[@123455thatguy]

Lol from the title I thought this was going to be the bit from Thrawn Treason when he did the same thing only against the empire.

[@1pacozcz]

So Ashoka created maneuver that was later used commonly in the galaxy...my my...

[@aerophine_66]

Next... we see how Thrawn takes over the Entire Galaxy with just a Droid Starfighter

[@Felix-sb5wp]

I'd love to see that lol

[@aerophine_66]

🤣🤣🤣

[@yeetleskeet854]

If thrawn came to earth to study our art and culture he would have a field day realising that every nation is culturally and artistically unique.

[@whytheheckarewedoinginhere1886]

Actually, that is good point also we are very different than the New Republic if Earth was in Star Wars, if Earth was in Star Wars, we probably be an tourism and military training for the Empire.

[@Deyone_Jackson]

0:50 Omg.. look at that flag! Am I the only one seeing it? It looks like the face of Dr. Phil😂😂

[@isMatvei]

No I see it LOL

[@OmegaMarioMaster]

Thrawn is like the Napoleon Bonaparte of Star Wars