How Thrawn Rebuilt His Fleet - Star Wars Lore DOCUMENTARY

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[@richardthomas9497]

I know this is a late comment, but you could superimpose the plot revelant planets on the Essential Atlas galaxy map. It includes all the regions, hyperspace lanes and numerous planets, that make up the unique galactic geography of Star Wars.

[@darthveatay]

The Thrawn trilogy is some of the best star wars material out there

[@Azorees-oj5zr]

All three Thrawn trilogies are hands down the best Star Wars material.

[@brentfavre1101]

Too bad Disney destroyed him

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​@@brentfavre1101Disney destroys everything they touch.

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Some of? It is THE best Star Wars material out there.

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@@sebastianprimomija8375 nevertheless, Thrawn is the best thing on Canon as well xd

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You don't know how many of us all are ineffablely ecstatic that you've decided to release Legends content! Looking forward to seeing The Yuuzhan Vong War!

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[@nathanielzarny1176]

Not much happens in these books when you take away all the pointless dialogue and side quests.

[@MicaiahBaron]

​@@nathanielzarny1176 Butthurt much?

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@@MicaiahBaron lol about what?

[@ewok40k]

The sequels we deserved...

[@bones0013]

true

[@leonardovegaolmedo5483]

It s a mixed bag for me, to be honest. Thrawn was great and all, but the whole insta clone machine that can make evil luke skywalkers clones was super convoluted.

[@MDP1702]

@@leonardovegaolmedo5483 They could have cut and pasted in the sequels following these events.

[@leonardovegaolmedo5483]

@@MDP1702 seems like they are doibg exactly that for ahsoka.

[@TheOwneroftheIC]

@@MDP1702 Instead they cut and paste Legacy of the Force (actual garbage) and Dark Empire (misunderstood).

[@eddyd8814]

This is by far the best SW video you have done, cant wait for the next one. However, the model you used for the smaller smuggler ships (the Hawks), they are fighterish sized, not cap ship sized as depicted here.

[@Emanon...]

Severely underappreciated channel. Your content is among the best nerd lore out there!

[@theawesomeman9821]

Thrawn is basically the Star Wars version of Hannibal

[@richardthomas9497]

And Alexander the Great, Erwin Rommel, Robert E. Lee and Sherlock Holmes.

[@barbiquearea]

I'm always baffled by how ship to ship ramming is such an effective way to neutralize capital ships in the Star Wars universe. Seriously, they have shields and yet even the mighty super star destroyer couldn't prevent its own demise when another ship crashed into them, or in the case of the Supremacy, get rammed by enemy ships going into hyperspace. This makes me wonder why the Rebels didn't opt for more kamikaze attacks, since Imperial Star Destroyers are weak against ramming to the point where even their shields are useless.

[@romansrule3]

The logic of Star Wars is that there is no logic

[@Azorees-oj5zr]

Wait you actually believe that the A-wing crashing into the super star destroyer’s bridge is what brought it down? It was that COMBINED with the almost the entire rebel fleet bombarding it and the gravitational pull of the Death Star that brought it down, not a single fighter ramming it.

[@pacocheung1864]

@@Azorees-oj5zr You are absolutely correct, after Akbar ordered with the now famous line of "concentrate all firepower to that SSD", the Executors shields were downed and engines damaged just as green leader made his attack run on the bridge, since the SSD was focusing on incoming rebel cruisers and support ships it didn't divert much power to forward point defence, so the kamikaze run struck the main bridge. The SSD lost control of most systems (temporarily as it had a second bridge but that doesn't matter), as the temporary disablement of engines caused the SSD to be pulled into the Death Star II due to gravity. All in all it was the combined effort of a lot of brave rebels launching suicide runs against the SSD, rebel high command's good tactical decisions and a dose of luck to take down the SSD...... I refuse to justify the Raddus's light speed ramming

[@Azorees-oj5zr]

@@pacocheung1864 the Raddus was destroyed in Rogue One, you’re thinking of the Akbar.

[@pacocheung1864]

@@Azorees-oj5zr The Raddus is the MC85 resistance flagship in episode 8, named after the rebel admiral who died in the battle of Scarif

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Thrwan is awesome! Thanks!

[@all1nerd377]

THIS is how you write Thrawn! Not as a gaslighting loser who pretends his failures are actually successes.

[@clinthoyt1855]

The thing with Thrawn was were they defeats or just bait to bring his enemies in for the kill?

[@nathanielzarny1176]

In the final battle thrawn is losing before he dies, and in fact never gets a true victory against our heroes face to face. Sure he can win against nameless grunts, but these books make thrawn a loser as well. Thrawn could have won these, but since our main characters can't be killed, thrawn is written to lose. The only time he's allowed to really win are in the new books where he is the protagonist

[@Fordo007]

@@nathanielzarny1176 A lot of latter books built Thrawn up, I think some characters even comment on the fact that the younger officers built Thrawn out to be an unbeatable genius only defeated by a betrayal when he was just a man who was a decent leader.

[@aramsantos86]

​@nathanielzarny1176 difference is the books didn't bumb him down. He made intelligent decisions, but plot armor just couldnt be overcomed. Which we expect. The Disney show had him act like a Saturday morning cartoon villain. Making dumb decisions compounded by plot armor. Makes it a very hard to watch.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

​@@clinthoyt1855Based on how many he didn't kill no

[@mohamadnuriman4815]

All hail trawn , boo to republic

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These are amazing. Please never stop. You should do some Warhammer 40k ones

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Warhammer Lore would be far too self-contradictory

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They did w40k. Check it out.

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@@deathstroke2697 I saw they did fantasy, I must've missed the 40k

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@@MaidenFan666 They are doing the Horus Heresy.

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@@MaidenFan666 they are doing horus heresy. Wh fantasy is still a mistery for me. Are there two timelines? Age of sigmar and end times? Im a little bit confused...*LittleFinger face*

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[@TheManFromWaco]

The Star Wars Legends timeline will probably keep you busy for quite a while (and I'm all for it!) but if you need another Space Opera series, you should check out Yoshiki Tanaka's "Legend of the Galactic Heroes" saga. It answers the burning question of "What would happen if Yi Sun-Shin fought Alexander The Great IN SPACE?!"

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Be great if they did LOGH

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It is good to see most of the AI portraits gone and replaced with Lore accurate art.

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Legends will get you love! and views.

[@zintosion]

Ahh good ole rebel technique. RAMMING SPEED.

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Something might be wrong with this video, I didn't get notification for it, it popped out after watching other video. No way you get only 100 views. Love all Star Wars Lore videos btw.

[@legoforbeginners6950]

I'd recommend labeling these videos as legends, to avoid any confusion and so you can do a canon post-endor series if you want. Going to watch the video now, sure it'll be great.

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That is a very wise idea.

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imagine referring to anything released after the clone wars series as canon 💀

[@sean9485]

This should be cannon in the garbage they're putting out now It should be Legends

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For what reason would anyone give a crap about a "canon" post-endor series lol. Wizards and Warriors needs good world-building which current Star Wars does not have. We got 5 seconds of screentime for the New Republic in the new trilogy, and the Ahsoka series even though I did not watch, from what I can see, does not exactly bear the hallmarks of good sci-fi.

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Another cool tale from the Legends side of Star Wars. This is quite amazing. Thanks W&W!

[@andsmith3780]

What really made me get into Star Wars was reading the Zahn trilogy in middle school (and the west end games rpg).

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Star Wars Expended Universe will always be so much better, than Anything Disney can produce!

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Sadly i could only give you just one thumbs up... I would like to give you one million of them!

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Then stop talking about Disney already and move on

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Low bar.

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@@balabanasireti imagine trying to defend Disney

[@Kaleesh_General27]

Nice! Purely legends content is always something exciting to see

[@mikemodugno5879]

Now if they'll just make sure that Thrawn is unleashed on the galaxy tonight.

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Having a "Dreadnought-class" heavy cruiser is confusing af.

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blame The Anaxes War College System

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Fantastic! Thank you for your quality videos! I loved the “Heir to the Empire” series. It was excellent in covering so many quality strategic and character points, that when Disney poaches characters and plot lines from it, it left me feeling a little personally violated, as the characters of this novel and its plot arch’s we’re so perfectly in tune with Lucas’ original movies that any usage of these characters beyond a fairly parallel script based on these original stories, feels like a theft of ideas at best and a rape of art at worst! Thanks again for all your team does. As soon as I fully recover from this leg injury and get back to work, I will subscribe financially.

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It's so weird seeing a Legends lore video having Canon planets on the map lol! Also the description is weird, too, it makes it seem like Heir to the Empire actually happened after Jakku. But, whatever, it's still a good video and I'm sure people will be able to tell the difference.

[@Fordo007]

I still play The Old Republic MMO and it seems like the Old EU still maintains it's policy of adding to it whatever Lucas or Disney add(within reason) into the lore. Disney creates a planet, EU lore adds it into the map.

[@SparticusHun]

Seeing this makes me really excited and hopeful for a Dark Empire breakdown

[@Original_Edition]

Great video, the scale of the ships is a bit off though, those ISDs should be significantly larger than the smuggler ships and the Dreadnaughts

[@jedimaster6673]

Excellent, been loving this series 😎👍

[@FroJSimpson]

Ah, back when Thrawn possessed all his tactical brilliance and he wasn’t repeatedly kneecapped by writers that lacked enough cleverness to write for a clever character, or suffered from directive choices that repeatedly bordered on “Saturday morning cartoon” contrivances. I miss Timothy Zahn.

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Great video loving your legends content.

[@gearlordgeneration6673]

More Thrwan!!!!!!!!!!

[@wedgeantillies66]

Classic divide and conquer from Thrawn as he uses the internal conflict he has stirred up within the new republic as the perfect distraction to keep them occupied and from interfering in his plans. Enabling him to build up his forces with the addition of the dark force and a clone army to them. Purring him a perfect position after the battle of the Katanna fleet to begin his full campaign to defeat and conquer the new republic in earnest..

[@katharinabruns9480]

And this is why Zahn Thrawn so much better. There is logical strategy and planning behind it, which builds a confrontation up and the better strategy wins in the end. And not just a battle where you know nothing about the two sides battling, except perhaps that the good guys will win in the end because it's PG13.

[@gastonarce]

What a great story the Thrawn campaign is and proves that you don't need giant fleets fighting each other as mere decoration for the protagonista plot armors. An outdated Star Destroyer and a handful of frigates againts some Nebulon-Bs and corvettes and you can have a nice and fun Space Battle. Take notes, Disney, if the STORY is good and the characters are genuine and develop their different personalities you can do good Star Wars stuff.

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Excellent, Many Thanks!

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I don't know if I should be thrilled or ashamed that I recognize Dorja's avatar from the 1998 Star Wars: Rebellion game.

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They might have already said. Is this legends?

[@minatodroger7890]

Thrawn you magnificent bastard you did it again 👏 🙌

[@jayburn00]

Will you guys cover the battles of the dark empire series, new jedi order, x wing series, etc? Or is this the only legends material you will do? The x wing and new Jedi order series would be perfect for your format, dark empire as well probably.

[@owenparris7490]

Also is it just me, or is Senator Xiono the Canon version of Borsk Fey'lya? Both seem to have wanted power and both ignored or downplayed threats to their governments.

[@kiankier7330]

wait, has this channel finally done a video on Star Wars EU, nice. Now we just need a video on the Yuuzhan Vong war

[@darthmeta6445]

9:07 "Mara disliked the Jedi (Luke Skywalker)." Boy, will that change soon enough...

[@13thravenpurple94]

Great video Thank you

[@scottmurphy6945]

I hope they dovetail what just happened on TV into the OG Thrawn story exactly as possible

[@raphaelostrowski6336]

More legends content after your done with Thrawn. There is so much content aster the was galactic civil war to follow especially the Yuzhan Vong

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Great work!

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The real sequel

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People need to realize just how much of a MILITARY GENIUS.

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Way better than Asokha serie bruh

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lol I find it difficult to view opinions that include bad grammar and, "bruh" as worthwhile. "Yo yo yo, bruh! Supes cool me, yo, k'know, bruh."

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@@SamGray I read the 2 of the 3 book about Trawn, Asokha is just a 5 cringe season for star wars rebel, don't need to argue.

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Ahh the best star wars.

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I am Alpharius.

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EA: the Quickening perk is $9.99 extra Thrawn: but you said your game was free to play!

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Thrawn thrawn thrawn thrawn

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Would you ever do an economy and society video on numenor?

[@BassicBear]

Nitpick: Thrawn did not campaign against the New Republic, he campaigned against the Rebellion.

[@richardthomas9497]

I know this is a late comment, but you could superimpose the plot revelant planets on the Essential Atlas galaxy map. It includes all the regions, hyperspace lanes and numerous planets, that make up the unique galactic geography of Star Wars.

[@thomasnelon5422]

YOU GIYS SHOULD DO A BUNCH OF COOL LEGENDS CONTENT! Plenty out there lol. I feel like y’all like the Yuzhan Vong war.

[@fredlandry6170]

The Thrawn Trilogy was absolutely brilliant, too bad the latest sequels could not have been about the Thrawn books.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Classically Roman in politics.

[@mycaruba8858]

holy fuck you're the history guy right? I love your stuff!

[@PurpleWarlock]

Hope you can do lore videos on the works of Moorcock, LeGuin, Terry Pratchett, CS Lewis and many other from say sci fi authors like Zelasny and Herbert. Hoping for some literary criticism to explain what the authors were trying to say and if the succceded at it.

[@auo2365]

I will say the galactic map is the canon version which is significantly different from the legends map and the positions makes more sense if it was the legends version

[@koren7783]

Im a simple man, i see Thrawn and i click

[@happysam.1093]

Thrawn like quantity over quality overall

[@andrzejhinc6404]

Although, small correction, Thrawn's suit was different i legends

[@IMELDAGASATAN]

Heir to the Empire!

[@robertpatience5141]

I still don't how it wasn't a bigger deal that the NR got the flag ship of the fleet.

[@christopherg2347]

Thrawn was a beast. Simply capable leadership put in front of the imperial military aparatus. The only way to defeat him, was to blindside him with reinforcements out of nowhere. The Mandalorians and Purgils from Rebels or the Noghri and Karrdes Smuggler Armada from the Books - each completely blindsided him. There was no way for him to prepare. If it wasn't for "the force" guiding the heroes to his defeat, he would be unstopable.

[@lerneanlion]

Have anyone ever wondered what is the galaxy going to look like if Thrawn won?

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Good stuff

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You should start doing star wars the clone wars battle videos best time in the star wars timeliness because there are more jedi

[@JumboJim54]

Yuuzhan Vong War analysis!!

[@thanospantis3398]

we want more

[@pgeborek533]

please make yuuzhan vong war you do amazing job

[@andrzejhinc6404]

Yasss, legends!!!

[@jwwright6733]

Can you do the Clone Wars Timeline? 😊

[@GM_LEONG]

man the algorithm sucks... i didnt even know that the video came out!

[@pavelurteaga]

all right!

[@carloscampo9119]

Great

[@joestraw8870]

Spelling errors - it’s Kashyyyk and Kessel

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Your thumbnails look much better when they’re not made with AI

[@maddogbasil]

*Yo K&G* 👋👋 When can we see the next installment of the Alternate History Series on this channel We still haven't yet seen a proper conclusion to the current Mongol Series Would love to see the aftermath of the Mongol conquest of rome and what the future of Mongol occupation of eastern/Central Europe would hold

[@WizardsandWarriors]

We are working on it

[@saratmodugu2721]

@@WizardsandWarriorsif you had to give a fraction of how much of the next Mongol Europe video is done, what would it be on a scale 1-10?

[@hallamhal]

The fact they have a katana fleet implies a Japan in the Star Wars galaxy

[@stevenirizarry1304]

please do the rest of the post-ROTJ timeline kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6fKXpl3Zdd8qJY

[@wojszach4443]

and this is the guy who send stormtroopers into cqc with jedi and mandalorian while ignoring air support?

[@voiceinyourhead8284]

I mean he legitimately didn’t care about getting rid of them. If it wasn’t for Ashoka tricking Baylan, they’d be fucked. Either way Thrawn still got what he wanted: freedom.

[@wojszach4443]

@@voiceinyourhead8284 real thrawd wouldnt do this, tharwn would just kill future problem with airstrike

[@MDP1702]

@@wojszach4443 To be fair, if Thrawn leaves, they would normally be stranded in that galaxy, so no threat to Thrawn. Taking them out would have been nice, but making them waste time is good enough. Though yes, it feels like Disney has put him down a bit, both intellectually and physically. Hope they don't do that too much, else their "Thrawn is a threat to the galaxy" story would feel pointless.

[@wojszach4443]

@@MDP1702 waste? yeah sure totallyrogue jedi roaming around will totally not beagent for the republic especially when working with known rebel operative quite notorious one, i bet if he could spare strike force to get her he could totally order them to check how many turboblaster shots does it take to take them but hey lets send ranged units into cqc with close quarters specialists and ground your entire air support which should be enough on its own! instead of quick sortie then deployment of platoon to make sure that dead are dead and problem solved, but no he had to mess this up if he wasnt interested he wouldnt send anyone there in the first place!

[@Tahkaullus01]

Fleet Battle: Grand Admiral Thrawn's fleet vs Supreme Commander Revan's fleet. Who wins?

[@Fordo007]

I mean if we assume Revan had the same fleet then likely Thrawn due to better technology. If both have an equal sized fleet of the same tech... probably Revan with the Force being able to sense things. Though we never really got to see Revan as a military leader up close and a lot of his broader strategy seemed to be attrition. Easy to compare him to General Grant in the Civil War in that way, but Grant also had the great campaigns in the West with the masterful Vicksburg Campaign. I'd give Thrawn a majority of the battles as wins but I'd give Revan the war.

[@zu3bikil]

How long ago before the main Star Wars movie does this take place ?

[@Alex88576]

It takes place 9 years afterwards

[@zu3bikil]

thanks for the quick reply@@Alex88576

[@Dual_Singularity]

What books or comic lines are these stories apart of?

[@drumjedi5301]

The original Thrawn trilogy, written by Timothy Zahn, starting with Heir to the Empire, released in 1991. This particular story is from Dark Force Rising, the second book of the series. It ends with The Last Command. I highly recommend these books, even if you don't read any of the rest of the old EU books (now called Legends).

[@Dual_Singularity]

@@drumjedi5301 awesome!! Thanks my guy. I’ve been reading the new stuff. I just finished thrawn chaos rising and it was phenomenal. I’ll have to give these a look!

[@drumjedi5301]

@@Dual_Singularity Glad to help! The new Canon Thrawn books really are quite good, and that's coming from someone who really doesn't care much for the current canon. I've been reading the old EU books since '91 when Heir to the Empire came out. There's a lot of them, and some are so-so, and some just plain bad, but overall they're very good. That particular trilogy, though, is absolutely top notch. Keep in mind, it's the original iteration of Thrawn, long before Rebels or Ahsoka...in fact, long before the Prequel Trilogy even, so the lore and Thrawn's characterization is quite different. Still, I can't recommend them enough! Have fun!

[@Dual_Singularity]

@@drumjedi5301 These last two videos have definitely peaked my interests. I just love the wide array of characters they seem to be utilizing throughout!! I’ll definitely look, I’ve just recently been getting into books of the EU because I was young when I first started getting into em and it was mainly the clone wars comic lines and old skywalker single issues I’d randomly collect. But now that I’ve come to appreciate books more it’s allowed me to expand into the older Star Wars canon. Which for me is just as important as the “canon” that’s eh. Love andor tho and every show has its moments besides maybe boba fett lmao

[@drumjedi5301]

@@Dual_Singularity Andor was great!!! Rogue One, too. They feel a bit like the EU books feel.

[@MalaysiabyCentralAsia]

That motherf doesnt die 😅

[@jonbaxter2254]

Ah, smart Thrawn. As he always should be... *stares in Ahsoka*

[@gang-ridertv5433]

When a hobbit talks starwars.

[@thalljoben3551]

Impossible to search out pre disney lore because what they didnt throw in the trash they keep retconning. Fucking shame

[@Peryite_the_Platypus]

Filoni has yet proven that he is unable to write an intelligent character. Glad to see that the former EU gets the attention it deserves in this video.

[@robbabcock_]

Great video! I find the Star Wars extended universe to be hokey and cliches but Wizards and Warriors does a great job anyway!

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