How Titanfall 3 Died Twice

The Truth About Titanfall 3
After Titanfall 2 fans were thirsty for a new titanfall game
So, What happened to Titanfall 3
Credit for assets not directly credited on screen
Audio Logs // YT/Lunatock
Select Titanfall Mission Footage // YT/Mohammad Alavi
Titanfall 2 concept animation videos // YT/Shawn Wilson
Early Apex Concepts // X/@_moyparra
*reach out if you want me to change this
Music Used (list) pastebin.com/uw0mJF4j
#apex #apexlegends #apexlegendsbreakout #titanfall #titanfall2 #titanfall3

[@Jasri112]

The thing is if they made titanfall 3 it wouldn’t be the same it’s not the same people working there than it was all those years ago

[@Grrt]

Ong

[@Jasri112]

@@Grrt 😏😏😏

[@Thawheedi]

That’s what I’m saying, I would love TF3 but again with no McCord or other people like that it can have the potential of going the way of bo4 zombies

[@Jasri112]

@@Thawheedi fax

[@dillonrios4391]

anything has to be better than the f2p hellscape we have now

[@charles.personal]

hearing the original relatively grounded titanfall lore contrasted by the batshit insane apex lore really is telling of what's happened with respawn's writers

[@tothewin5388]

The writers who worked on early apex had all left. Only these new dei hires are there. Thank God that Steve Fukuda there. He was the game director who worked on both titanfalls and early 2000s cod.

[@Enderfan7363]

You've gotta remember that Respawn was made up of ex-COD devs when it was first founded and these people were probably the ones that made both Tf games. But those are mostly gone now

[@tothewin5388]

@@Enderfan7363 they were, now they are gone without giving us tf3 when they had the chance

[@halycon404]

Respawn has two development teams. After Titan Fall 2 the studio got split into two. The people who did the multiplayer of TF1 and TF2 got split to go off and do Apex Legends. In developing TF2 which had a campaign when TF1 didn't they had to hire people to create a single player game, those people went on to do Fallen Order and Survivor since Apex Legends wouldn't have a campaign and be pure multiplayer. The writers are still there, just with the other team. But who knows whats up with that team, EA forcing Respawn to push Survivor out the door before it was ready caused all sorts of problems.

[@zatupich]

The biggest disappointment is that even if they release titanfall 3 somehow it will most likely be a flaming pile of dogshit with zero content and tons of skins, and fans will be absolutely angry

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

we don't really know that, and titanfall 2 already had not much content and it was very good, the thing is we are now used to content every week, it wasn't like that back then

[@Volcano22207]

@@ender_z4nd3r83 my brother in Christ it’s owned by EA and none of the original developer team are on it look at apex

[@fireheat3246]

@@ender_z4nd3r83 titanfall 2 was made (nealy completed) before they joined EA, released it after they joined EA. due to apex creation, most of the original titanfall creators quitted and went to work for other big companies, even they know the titanfall universe shouldnt be at the hand of a greedy tyrant corporation. Now apex, other than the same universe, has no other similarity to the rest of the titanfall franchise or its lore. either it literally has no lore connected to the past or they retcon the old lore to fit new apex characters backstory

[@lulu111_the_cool]

​@@ender_z4nd3r83Titanfall legends was supposedly have legends powers.

[@triadwarfare]

Better not release it and tarnish the legacy of Titanfall with a "mid" game rather than just stop at its peak.

[@Actroz]

I Played titanfall 1 and 2 with my uncle and he waited for 3 so long that he literally wrote an Email to ea and respawn multiple times 💀

[@zaiko8412]

W uncle

[@xSoulhunterDKx]

@@zaiko8412fr

[@atom5469]

that's so cute

[@alisinanucer]

W uncle

[@Natsuk1y]

Did they ever respond😭

[@JustAnOkayEngineer]

No way this man just dropped a 40 minute video on a random Sunday afternoon

[@Grrt]

Good aftetnoon

[@Metanauris]

good morning@@Grrt

[@Goeatpie]

An unexpected surprise, but not an unwelcome one

[@Mr_Oflan]

​@@Grrt sup imma sub keep me updated abt titanfall 3 i would love it xd 😂🎉❤❤

[@b7shoota]

they caught lightning in a bottle with tf2. that campaign is the most amazing campaign ive ever played

[@Grrt]

Yep

[@burna.k.a.turtleonalog4327]

Try the mp too, attrition is the best pvp gamemode I’ve ever played

[@b7shoota]

@@burna.k.a.turtleonalog4327 i have man i was playing the northstar client a ton last year. haven't played recently though

[@vibesmagma8451]

Protocal 3 😢

[@RevenantMain1]

There is so much story to be told in this universe, the story could literally go anywhere and they don’t care. They just *don’t care*

[@masterzoroark6664]

Bad decisions catch up to people sooner than later- BR is running into death rattles (look at how Fortnut is distancing itself from the genre, PUBG basically died and Warzone attempts to mix in less BR mechanics aka stuff like Lockdown which is just MP with extra steps). My opinion- Respawn as it was is over, and the respawn that is now has missed the mark when they could have refocused on Titanfall. They rewrote the established cannon of what started them so many times now that they basically tied an anchor to themselves and are willingly sinking and fans of "old Respawn" are foolishly hoping they will cut off the weight and swim back up. In addition- they are basically directly under AAA publisher, which clips wings imediately because this chained studio is way too known to allow them to do risky things. Gaming's Hollywood has indie devs picked on roadsides for risk (and even then it's usually one or two games before they dispose of them because they rock the boat too much)

[@burna.k.a.turtleonalog4327]

The story’s getting turned into bad characters and boring plots in apex rn

[@pinnacleofcomedy6306]

Atleast some janitor bothered to trip on a cable to somewhat fix the TF2 servers.

[@tddNando]

Both tf2s lol

[@pinnacleofcomedy6306]

indeed@@tddNando

[@somerando1067]

Both TF2s are now playable, colossal W

[@muchkeyboard4362]

I was promised a 40-minute video about why apex needs to add a bikini skin for pathfinder😢

[@shoOoterlegend]

long story short: the frontier wars started because the IMC abandoned the frontier, so the colonies stop paying taxes and the IMC didnt like that at all

[@j.d.clayborne5556]

Ahh the story of America 😂

[@xSoulhunterDKx]

We might as well start a war with the gaming industry then to get better games 😂

[@SCARECROW9713]

Moral of the story, dont pay taxes so you can kill them(joke pls dont ban)

[@DANNYonPC]

24:00~ The cursed 3 When number 2 is so good, you get afraid that #3 cant beat it Happened with L4D, halflife, and TF3.

[@michaeljamesm]

source engine curse

[@trollosgaming7724]

Team fortress 2

[@pantommy]

Honestly the supposed "open-world" L4D3 wouldn't have really been L4D at that point, it's one of the only games I don't regret being cancelled. L4D2 really is just L4D1 with new mechanics, and honestly adding more onto that would ruin the "complex simplicity" that I really enjoy in those games. The best we could've gotten would've been new characters and campaigns, but adding more campaigns would somewhat devalue the existing ones and new campaigns are already accessible through the workshop (just not exactly on par with valve quality most of the time). We really kind of have L4D3 already, L4D is a finished, whole game.

[@creeptv7514]

Team Fortress, Portal, Half-Life,

[@jasonwolfblood9441]

A thing to consider is that apex is the titanfall universe in name only. The lore itself seems to have deviated from the source

[@caboose9843]

the apex and titanfall storylines and lore actually take place in parallel universes canonically which im very grateful for

[@xxArsen1xx-OnPsn]

​@@caboose9843 Definitely reads/plays like Wraith and the portal tech were the main arc and protagonist, regardless of the direction its taken since release

[@triadwarfare]

So you mean that in the Apex universe, Cooper either didn't exist, died early, or someone else blew up Typhon, or maybe Cooper's actions on Typhon has resonated across the multiverse, even to where he should have failed?

[@jasonwolfblood9441]

@triadwarfare think about dmc versus devil may cry. Same characters, same game universe, and its even made by the same company, yet not only did dmc retcon the majority of the lore, but also completely switched the personalities of the characters. Using ash, and even blisk, you know that the characters aren't how they were in the titanfall games, and yet you only sum it up to the cop out that is "alternate in game universes". I personally like stories involving alternate universes and timelines, but at the same time, it's becoming more clear that this excuse is being used as a way to try to defend the poor writing that respawn is doing

[@lma5440]

@@caboose9843 actually thats wrong apex is in a bit more into the future if you know about bangalore she was getting trained as one of the soldiers and valkries father was a mech pilot if you seen also ash is one of the apex predators you fight so no it is not in a parralel its in the same universe just years after

[@pliskin03Clickit]

I hope a miracle happens and Titanfall 3 comes out after being developed in a manner that emphasizes the "Art over Money" style of game development and it changes the gaming industry for the better

[@Volcano22207]

You do realize it’s owned by EA right

[@capkenway]

A man can dream, @@Volcano22207

[@thegrouchization]

@@Volcano22207 Given that they described the scenario as a "miracle", I think they're aware.

[@pliskin03Clickit]

@@thegrouchization I love you guys both ...but I love you more.

[@lostbird1379]

Titanfall turned into Sekiro the way it died twice and became a shadow of its former self

[@BetaCypher]

I understood that reference 😂

[@6027]

As long as Apex print sweet sweet money, TF3 will never see the light of the day, ever

[@shadowslayer205]

And when Apex stops printing money, EA will just disband Respawn and move on to the next cash cow.

[@fireheat3246]

@@shadowslayer205 its too late to make titanfall 3 anyways so what you said might be true

[@xSoulhunterDKx]

@@fireheat3246its never to late to make a good successor

[@fireheat3246]

@@xSoulhunterDKx without the people who worked on its predecessor, it would be very hard

[@xSoulhunterDKx]

@@fireheat3246 not really. The Code is there. Respawn isnt shutdown. They have access to the Source code and so on. If EA would be interested in it, they could get it done.

[@SmileyBones555]

If the TitanFall universe is so vast, where are the alien Legends? I want to see Xenomorphs get their representation ! xD

[@itsmax9535]

funny thing is there ARE aliens the fold weapon for example is made by some alien civilisation we just never knew if they even live now

[@memento_mori7108]

If by alien legends you mean legends which are not from earth, then pretty much every legend is an alien legend.(assuming you are talking about the legends in apex, check the bio tab for each legend, it will show their home planet.)

[@Googs_Method]

@@memento_mori7108 non human or robot legends, 😑

[@MusicByDamienA]

@@memento_mori7108they mean non-human and non-robot

[@memento_mori7108]

@@MusicByDamienA ah ok nvm then, I didn't know what xenomorphs meant.

[@thsxi]

Assuming how Respawn is now, Titanfall 3 will never live up to Titanfall 2 or even Titanfall. They cannot make a loadout system for apex, their maps are no longer ‘realistic’ or even good, took them a whole year to make a single new tdm map, and still haven’t added another tdm mode in a whole year.

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

I don't think so, they still know how to do great games, you can see it on the star wars games, is only Apex the game they are fucking up with for some reason, so I¡m sure if they made titanfall 3 with the same love they make the star wars games it will be good, they also have a base they made in the 10 months titanfall 3 was in development

[@GrainOnTheGo]

I’ll never forgive Apex for taking a MASSIVE and truly COLOSSAL universe and minimizing it into effectively an arena. Yes I know there are locations elsewhere that are important but we don’t see them. TF1/2 showed us so many unique locations with lore tied to them.

[@sweet23315]

nahhh grrt is making banger videos and uploading nonstop high quality stuff. good job dude, very entertaining

[@Grrt]

Appreciate it!

[@thsxi]

In effect and cause, you can see people in cryo-freeze chambers, we can assume they’re the colony prisoners. However in the present after the arc exploded there all the corpses are revealed to be rotten and mangled. They could’ve expanded more on this but at least we got a reference to its planned parts. Edit: This is also a further nod to one of the missions audio logs where General Marder where he directly references that the IMS Odyssey’s colonists are being experimented on and that soon they will find out about the arcs long lasting effects on organic matter and brain function. It never got to that yet it seems however we found out anyways after the arc exploded, and on those same colonists.

[@mj5692]

I think if they just made titanfall 2 multiplayer have new updates like new titans, pilots, and weapons. I think the community would be in heaven for good year. Edit they could also have new playable story episodes released every so often that could build to titanfall 3 if they want to.

[@RevenantMain1]

I loved the video dude, you can really tell how much effort and passion you put into this. Can’t wait to see your next big project like this if one ever comes along

[@Grrt]

It will do, really appreciate the comment

[@afriendlycow5765]

As a Ex-Game Tester of Respawn with my tongue tied due to paperwork. There's a lot I want to correct, but the one thing I can correct is the Golden Ticket aka Apex Ticket. You get the Apex Ticket, you're invited to the Apex "Pack" Faction. You can accept it or leave it. The ticket during in TitanFall 2 is the same ticket Apex Legends. Blisk is the boss. If he thinks your skills are good enough for his needs. You're invited, Plain and simple. I have more to say, but I'm not gonna risk it.

[@chrisf.b.1056]

Don’t care much about apex but nothing came close to hearing “ titanfall ready for deployment” and proceed to get into your titan!!!

[@Moetheboi2024]

Finally a noncomplicated apex backstory video

[@Delq0]

*titanfall

[@Moetheboi2024]

@@Delq0 not totally

[@diobrando6737]

Personally, I wanna see blisk return to being the "owner" of the apex games after Silva died in the most recent lore with revenant and gang. Who knows, maybe he eventually will be a playable legend

[@Locke-u7gi]

Finally a titan fall lore video that goes straight to the point

[@De1337ed]

I wish they would sell Titanfall 1 again

[@burna.k.a.turtleonalog4327]

Same it was crazy that they just took it off sale with no warning

[@mortemisntedgy6872]

This actually kills me having such greatness dangled in front of me only to be cancelled away forever more than once

[@danheskia3987]

Titanfall lore is the American revolution in space.

[@Grrt]

There's a reason all.of the IMC grunts have british accents

[@danheskia3987]

@@Grrt Indeed.

[@Anakinvoorhees]

Why is that so true 💀

[@Janek212]

i think we can only hope that some fan/fans that will very love the titanfall franchaise will do the fan game that will be on same or better level than titanfall 2, beacuse we were fucked by respawn 2 times so i dont know if we can hope they will do anything

[@Zonx226]

Was not expecting a 40 minute video, hopefully well get more 😀

[@lukekalisz1817]

Hear me out, TF3 would follow the story of jack finding the aliens who's tech was used in the fold weapon

[@zeg197]

Grrt I just want to say that I love your videos about Titanfall. I've been a huge Titanfall fan for a long time and its made me sad to see it die. I didn't really play alot of Apex because it just made me miss the wall-running and the titans, although I like the characters of Apex and think its a cool game. It's great to see that you are both a fan of Apex and Titanfall, and I really appreciate the way that you talk about the Titanfall series with such respect. I am really hoping we get a game from Respawn that would tie Apex and Titanfall together more and make both fanbases happy.

[@tothewin5388]

Or they can make two whole different games, thus keep the fanbases of those two games happy

[@zeg197]

@@tothewin5388 Exactly! It’s funny because Call of Duty is able to do this. They provide content for people who like the Battle Royal mode, and they make new campaigns (even if they suck) and they have classic multiplayer. It’s not exactly a hard thing to do but Respawn still seems to struggle.

[@humphreyhackerson1182]

The sad thing is most the main developers have left so the story just wouldn’t be the same unless they made another game company but then the template wouldn’t be like titanfall

[@tothewin5388]

Not really, as steve fukuda is still there. He is the game director of both titanfalls and very early back in the earl 2010s cod like modern warfare 1 and 2. I'm sure he could cook up something.

[@humphreyhackerson1182]

@@tothewin5388 for sure but I doubt he can do it alone , I’m aware he made most of tf2 campaign but still

[@tothewin5388]

@humphreyhackerson1182 True, it's sad how they could have made a tf3 long ago, but the keep on milking apex now we would never have a true good tf3

[@humphreyhackerson1182]

@@tothewin5388 fr , glad they revived tf2 somewhat though , games are found so much quicker it’s great

[@tothewin5388]

@@humphreyhackerson1182 yup, before... all I had to play with was frontier defense

[@DANNYonPC]

Woah a docu style video by gerrit? lets goo

[@Abigail_neeko]

Finally, someone has completely done this thing that I have always wanted to see and want everyone to know. Thank you so much

[@sirdogs8766]

I just want Titanfall 3 to be Titanfall 2 with more content, and a new campaign. I really hope that if this game ever gets made they don't try to make it super cartoony like Apex and have passives and ults. I just want bland soldiers with one ability and a normal person that isn't overly exaggerated as the story protagonist.

[@Maybe_Crazy_Courier]

The use of the song Asphalt and ablution was amazing the 3 odst soundtrack is dope

[@namanienie123]

this guy deserves more attention amazing video

[@bjarnegessner8698]

Great Video, thanks for that. Just played Titanfall 2 story on master and finished it on 100%. Im praying for Titanfall 3.

[@mohammadalavi8471]

I’m impressed how much you put together. Not all of it’s right, but you certainly got the major beats. :)

[@mr.devilraven6956]

oh my god this video is a masterpiece, its beautiful

[@Koogon]

The song that starts at 31:11 is from the N64 game called Beatle Adventure Racing and hearing sent me into a nostalgia spiral

[@LastArchangel01]

I know this story. But here I am mad respect Grrt to your hard work.

[@PhiKehr]

40 minute video?! What the hell

[@Grrt]

I'm insane

[@Exhorizonmain1]

@@Grrtnah your “Grrted”

[@toccandocreacanaleulterior176]

Bruh he said it would arrive🗿

[@j.r.m.s.]

I still remember my first match of titanfall 2, I miss those times

[@davidens1216]

The first shotgun from TFO is an early concept for the Mozambique, the next one is a concept for the later aired Mastiff

[@unowno123]

11:47 unlikely, it likely is just code for "this ear is one of richters items" as nobody collects or stores ears. If youve ever made games, youll quickly call things by their respective character, like "lifelines drumsticks" or "valkyries ramen" etc.

[@ElJuk3B0X]

Banger vid bro

[@ToadTWE]

A 40 minute Grrt video? Looks like we're eating good tonight!!

[@whimslly]

4:08, 12:45 that's called B-twist, great video 👍

[@stealthhunter6998]

18:58 these guys move like elites from the original Halo trilogy but with jetpacks and kicking and sliding which is awesome.

[@johnprifti4192]

Imagine a multiplayer game that is like the mixtape mode but it’s with pilots. (1. They wouldn’t have to add titan mechancis. 2. They could add a new engine and use older models and revamp some. 3. Development can be done faster than the time it took for Apex Legends. 4. It could be incorporated into Apex like Warzone where you can choose either Warzone or campaign (in apex’s case: Apex or Pilot PVP). 5 it could be a paid mode.)

[@grandmapork6630]

Swagguy also has a titanfall vrchat avatar world where you can enter another players Titan avatar!

[@skymakai]

Never could get into Apex... still playing Titanfall2

[@ronin_link]

Bro is really cooking🔥🔥

[@zerotrig8331]

man when that ODST bgm kicked in nice touch

[@greasus5402]

Yeah, I've got the blisk and legion POP figure. I was always curious why he had the helmet on

[@justinshapiro1122]

Listen man, I really want to watch your video and I’m sure it’s great, I need to sometime but it’ll just make me too sad man I miss this game even though it doesn’t exist.

[@neko-kun2668]

@Grrt you really had me when I heard one of the BGMs from Beetle Battle in your video. Brought back some awesome memories ^ . ^

[@soh1430]

The concept art you pointed at near the end of the video is from the artbook of the first Titanfall not of Titanfall Legends.

[@kumer0a622]

those datamined apex mission things ( I already forgot) sound like Destiny raids..

[@them.e.g444]

no way a grrt video can ever be longer than this

[@XtremeSk8ter]

I just want titans in Apex, keep imaging one guy controlling the titan while the other two teammates are just chilling on the back until you get into another fight.

[@mukaeplay5597]

Man, I dont think Apex needs Titans, the apex games arent something serious you know, using titans for a game just doesnt feel right

[@ThunderbolttheFox]

After all the hype last year around Titanfall 3, there's no way they aren't working on it in the background now

[@tothewin5388]

The devs on the season 20 breakout dairy said that they are exploring more into the apex games as they are trying to keep apex on life support for more years.

[@leslyeharrington3044]

I really dislike how they keep changing and disappearing the lore of Titanfall. Like a pilot would not have been killed by a grunt aka Bangalore and her brother. When a pilot is the best of the best and only another pilot and kill one. And how ash is somehow alive after killing her and the Lstar being a experimental weapon when it’s not at all they should have just put apex in a different dimension which they might have done with the other wraith

[@mr_talamonti]

WHAT a 40 mins long vid, what is this, christmas perhaps?

[@alexboldman1807]

we can dream or be disappointed (heartbroken) maybe both all i know is that i haven't taken my pills in 3 months and tf3 is happening

[@CKing97]

41 MINUTES GRRT VIDEO??? Hol up, lemme heat up some food for this

[@teggunnad]

I'm glad that legends got cancelled because BT's death was awesome and actually made me sad, which doesn't happen to me often

[@superbogopop]

In consolation to the people who care about Titanfall, Apex has 3 more years tops in it and 1 more year of EA dragging its corpse before they give up, so you may be seeing TF|3 just before the decade ends... That wasn't meant to sound as depressing as it did

[@DeltaSlush]

I hope they sell the TF trademark to the fanbase who will actually make a good TF3.

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

they wont because Apex is in the same universe and uses the same assets and weapons

[@silksongoutyet]

@@ender_z4nd3r83 and EA would never want to give away their precious Apex

[@memeoverlrd]

27:10 ain’t that just frontier defence in a nutshell

[@aidengriffitts3984]

The halo 3 odst music in the beginning goes hard

[@zacharybachelor1795]

I feel Nokk will be in the next seasons cutscene and maybe she gets her elite next season and we get more answers on who nokk really is

[@ryczypisk3595]

Imagine if (in lore) blisk made this tournament to find the best of the best to make new apex predators

[@vexal3393]

Blisk is one of my favorite villains in gaming... For me, also coming from South Africa isn't the reason why his my favorite... Or maybe it is😅

[@Tuzsuz12]

HOOOLYY 41 MİNUTE VIDEO? FROM GRRT? DAAMANN

[@insell8]

It'll never be crazy to me how EA/Respawn just threw away one of the best FPS series and one of the best space opera sci-fi settings and even just mecha-design settings in recent history.

[@GrootBe8r]

26:30 no way he called phase shift stim

[@TsukadaKiyoshi]

I didn't even know titan fall 3 existed

[@ismaelgalindo]

Can you imagine a battle royal where we can call titans? god that would have been fun something like the trailers of titan fall 2 where we saw copper and bt surviving alone on the planet

[@Exhorizonmain1]

This is proof you need to start a podcast

[@Jojoelzadimaroguseppe]

Gyus why didn't it end after 8 minutes???

[@THE-BLACK-TEMPLARS]

they should make a titan fall movie / netflix thing

[@ommohammad5507]

Titanfall: titan dies twice

[@Billy_The_Kid-]

A 40 minute Grrt video lets gooo

[@bill9068]

I willing to bet on my entire bloodline that theyll make tf3

[@a_guyThatDoesStuff]

I’ll wait as long as I have to as long as it’s a good game

[@onemanarmyb]

Titanfall 3 mentioned in the video!!! It's real guys! We're gonna get it!!! Jokes aside, thank you for covering the lore (40 min is a lot). Like how you mentioned at 56 sec in that there were unusual amounts of habitable planets. Titanfall universe was planned to have some long gone alien civilization in the story, hence the fold weapon and some relics in the swamp. I really love Titanfall's universe, with very cool looking planets. The in game skyboxes are just well made. Thanks for introducing this lore to apex players!

[@onemanarmyb]

I also wanted to mention, Plot coalition is making a titanfall series to watch.

[@cron1807]

I just wish that someone would make a game that feels similar to titanfall 2. I certainly dont have the skill, but many people do

[@MJS-lk2ej]

27:07 - 29:15 that sounds alot more then iterative, and it is not like Titanfall 2 isn't already an iteration on Titanfall 1.

[@ObberGoober1000]

swear to god if we dont get a godly titanfall open world pve multiplayer game soon imma lose my mind

[@ADEPS.]

41 minute. Lemme grab some snacks.

[@user-ns4zm8qe9p]

We need a petition

[@aaronlaughter6471]

Remember guys, Titanfall is in Respawns dna. They totlly didnt just say that for PR.

[@vanzwho854]

we just wanna see cooper again 😢

[@Zodaxa_zdx]

titanfall really has a tough time continuing on, or not and it's doing fantastic with it's name change (apex lmao)

[@deezplayz6835]

what if bloodhound stole blisk pilots helmet and didn't know what is was so he scraped it tacking parts for his own helmets