The Truth About Apex's Big Hack

The Truth About "The Apex Hack"
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[@Heyani32]

nahh Rust started this guys Villain arc

[@timothymoore2966]

Have you seen rust? Wild Wild West in that game

[@FlyingDiIdo55]

That explains it all. Rust will do that to a person

[@nvekk9965]

understandable

[@kushysmoke3690]

​@@nvekk9965😂 true

[@Rustyhobo5]

oh he came from rust? yea sounds bout right lolol

[@Sick_Sara]

If a hacker gifted me 4000 packs and EA didn't take them away from me I'd be sitting there and opening them like holiday gifts. I don't owe loyalty to a company who sees me as nothing more than a walking wallet.

[@camilosomers4087]

Fr

[@davidreiber8406]

This is so real

[@plasmaflicks4896]

Same

[@mikem.s.1183]

Yeah, what the heck is Integrity anyway? Someone commits theft against a company that "sees you as a walking wallet" and gifts that theft to you so doing the right thing is no longer justified... What a take...

[@Sick_Sara]

@@mikem.s.1183 Oh, no, will someone think of all the stolen pixels and bits of code?! HOW WILL EA COPE WITH THIS LOSS?!

[@boredsv]

no matter how you hate destroyer you cant help but admire his skill in making these "never before seen" cheats for apex

[@s4nikra]

@@sudiiskevvejfkdbs You're not into hacking, are you? Both is hard, especially what destroyer did.

[@sudiiskevvejfkdbs]

@@s4nikra Yeah good job making everyone afraid to even open up the game. What a great guy. People like you are the reason peoppenlike him keep going. I find it interesting but its just wrong the praise the guy on any level. No ego push needed Also its just true, you don't even know how he is doing this stuff. It could be impressive, but it could also be a very simple server related exploit that until now only he figured out. Either way he is a low life looking for a rush

[@dugtheundead]

Maybe use his skill for something good instead of putting this much time into an almost dead game ruining other ppls experience. Don't care how "hard" it is dude is a loser lol

[@danborg1228]

@@s4nikra Yer agree, this hacks had a good goal agree with him, it´s way to easy to cheat in games to day and only way to to force them get beter is do somting like this and he had a valid point what if he did not make it obvious this 2 guys was beeing hacked he could done some serius dmg to their repetation he did not we need people like him so gready shit compnays like ea respawn dont oversharge for skins and ban people more likly for toc vilotions then cheating.

[@foxgamerpros4622]

@@danborg1228fix ur english but ur right mate. But respawn just the makers not the seller btw.

[@IMNOTGAY231]

Who’d win? A multi dollar skin making company with hundreds of employees or 1 single 18 years old hacker honestly if he didnt hack ALGS respawn will just ignore all complains about hacks until he decides to kick respawn/EA in the balls and costing them to lose more money. I’d say destroyer is a antihero and not a full on villain and of course some may say he’s doing it for fun, but he screwed this greedy company over while even after a whole month EA/ Respawn never made a apology or maybe they’re just not sorry at all

[@R-hauL]

I agree, if anything, he is just pointing out the weak spots in Apex, so that Respawn can fix it

[@namo2403]

tbf its much easier to hack than to defend to defend, you have to be prepared for every possible intrusion method regardless of whether you are aware of its existence or not to hack, you just have to find 1 vulnerability for it to snowball

[@wojowniczapszczola8980]

If you and Respawn were to fight who would win? Well if they were to release 26798th heirloom recolor it would give me a little bit of trouble but would you lose? Nah I'd Win (I am still suffering from effects of lobotomy please help)

[@B6ljios]

Agree but you dont know the hacks are so op? The most famous hack gang(group idk) hacked the safiest system in the world so its normal bc hacks gets stronger every day Like the bot lobby hack then everyone could kill you and now there is bot got hack to kill the players in the game

[@shummaiii]

actually it's a multi million dollar company with THOUSANDS of employees

[@deeziegaming8545]

Forget the legal side of this. MORALLY ea/respawn are way worse than anything he has done. Between these 300+ dollar "events", the crazy amount of gambling mechanics that are going to lead to a lot of people with money problems growing up, them giving us less actual content a year but asking more and more money. Destroyer is not the hero we needed but deff the hero a lot of us wanted. I hope there's someone even worse or better yet somehow legally we fight all these corrupt gaming companies.

[@imtiyaazbucks8803]

Clash Royale next?

[@mikem.s.1183]

I agree that Respawn doesn't deserve praise or loyalty. I'm a Titanfall 2 guy and I will never forget what they did to our community. And I know a LOT of Titanfall old timers that WILL NOT buy anymore games that Respawn makes, even if it's Titanfall 3. But the issue remains, Respawn doing bad things, immoral things is no justification for immoral acts against their property and for potentially ruining careers. You are justifying that which is NOT justifiable.

[@bor0423]

New documentary idea: Garret goes to Russia to interview Destroyer2009.

[@cynthiablackthorn]

Kinda hard at the moment

[@Grrt]

I know a guy ​@@cynthiablackthorn

[@zage932]

​@@cynthiablackthorn he knows a guy

[@dogidogediggidydogedd957]

YOU KNOW WHO ELSE KNOWS A GUY

[@ChristyMAckk]

Bole, jel znas nekog da zna nekog, da je nekad negde video vampira?

[@ducko4462]

bro idc if hes a hacker or not making these things at 18 is pretty incredible

[@Cazzanovaa]

Sad you mean, dude was probs raised by a pc

[@Its8BitPixel]

​@TooEZMoit ima just say, this kid must know alot about computing and coding and if he did apply this knowledge to some tech job out there he could be very successful.

[@Vershay]

@@Its8BitPixelif he gets arrested he’ll get a job in cyber something

[@Masterofchodes]

If respawn had a brain cell between them they'd employ the kid

[@Gun43g]

You're telling me the hacker has a villian back story?

[@someoneonyoutube1554]

Not really a back story, just a dude getting mad at a game for false banning him, and taking his anger out on other games that isn’t rust.

[@x93Vanquish]

@@someoneonyoutube1554this sounds like a villain arc beginning

[@TheGoldenApex]

Yessir!!!😂😂😂

[@cardinalwilson8034]

@@someoneonyoutube1554 do you have control of your anger if you have all the capabilities to satisfy it?

[@DeltaSlush]

"Most Brutal Video game hacks" The titanfall community: Yeah,sure....

[@toccandocreacanaleulterior176]

What is titanfall

[@RattlebonesTheThird]

​@@toccandocreacanaleulterior176 the thing u need to prepare for

[@danielllitpek2014]

It's almost as if none of their 5 AAA games are remotely secure lmao honestly, they deserve it ngl

[@datpotatoes4005]

PREPARE FOR TITANFALL!

[@sarunotaslt]

@@toccandocreacanaleulterior176 Apex'es daddy

[@supdawg7811]

We need more comment from Respawn if they want more people to come back. The lack of information does not instill confidence, and I can't take the risk.

[@TheGoldenApex]

Bruh ur not going to get hacked destroyer 2009 publicly stated that he was not gonna hack random people, he was just wanted to hack top pros and famous players. He also said he was not going to install malicious things on people computers like viruses, he said he only wanted to play pranks. Also he said in an interview that he was currently unable to hack anyone else for the time being

[@supdawg7811]

@@TheGoldenApex Why would you take a hacker completely at his word? Why would you think others wouldn’t learn from him what the hack was (say, he was bragging about how he hacked to feel good about himself and others took that information) and use it for their own purposes? They could then deploy it at-scale very easily. These are common scenarios.

[@anonapache]

@@TheGoldenApex you also believe a serial killer if he says to you "nah, i ain't get you buddy"?

[@zulkiers7302]

@@TheGoldenApex It's not destroyer I'm worried about. It's the others. There might be some malicious people out there who may have found the vulnerability by now. I saw hackers every time I played, who knows if they've found the weak point by now. I'm not taking the risk.

[@ExHorizonMain1]

The fact that being a cheat developer can be a “career” in a sense scares me

[@whosflair3716]

Same as drug dealer or firearms dealer

[@weeb6316]

i don’t understand why

[@emma6648]

Same reason why drug dealers make money, OF chicks make money, child corn makes money

[@toniskiny9589]

​@@weeb6316because theres a demand for it, I'm sorry if i sound boomer but these generation absolutely have no winning mentality they can't stand with loosing and don't know what grind is so they short it out with cheating on games to get their daily dopamine.

[@ashrose5537]

Now just combine all those together and all the skills and you got a danger dealer

[@jabbathehuttisamadlad892]

Opened the eight packs, and another one I got from the battle pass, and I got nothing above blue. 7.7% chance of that happening btw.

[@janitorizamped]

So more than 1/14? That's not even that unlucky lol

[@jabbathehuttisamadlad892]

@@janitorizamped 1/14 is very close to the chance of you getting a legendary from A SINGLE apex pack (7.4%). I didn't even get an epic, let alone a legendary, from 9 packs. The chance of getting an epic from a singular pack is 24.8%, how is that not unlucky?

[@hardinneil2163]

Same thing happened to me!

[@Swagger51]

I got like 3 epics

[@BakaKakor]

I had 4 packs and got 8 from the compensation. Got 3 legendaries and the pack on my next level I got another legendary lol

[@comprehensivecomparison]

apex is the only one costing apex money, they werent gonna fix the cheating problem, and now they are, if they had their priorities straight the whole time it would have never had to happen like this

[@benja_324]

"Destroyer2009 probably will never see justice" The multi billion dollar company's hit squad in my backpack:

[@niclaswa5408]

"It's not about malicious attempts. It's about sending a message."

[@bingchilling8586]

I think one big thing people overlook is what this kind of hack means. This guy has done this for "shits n giggles" but imagine what someone who wants money or computers for botnets, every apex player is at risk. So yeah find this dude but I think EA really ought to look at the bigger issue here.

[@TMTFish]

This hack could have been significantly worse.. thankfully even tho it seemed scary it didn’t go very much further. How he managed to implement cheats onto someone else’s machine and fire loot boxes to people is an extreme issue which EA didn’t address publicly and I’m sure there will be another exploit soon.

[@lilskindom9]

This is gonna be history of apex 5 years from now we’re all gonna remember this

[@bobbylong5664]

I'm not even mad at destroyer, I hope he gets so deep into the code that he shuts the game down completly. It will teach EA and Respawn a lesson. Destroyer will bring balance to the force lol

[@davidreiber8406]

Yessss🤣

[@Jay-ke2gg]

They did that with titanfall it’s pretty clear ea and respawn doesn’t care

[@JayJay-zi8ks]

​@@Jay-ke2ggoh but they'll care about apex. It has given them billions of dollars and if it gets shut down, they'll be crying and begging for Destroyer0009 to turn the game back on. And we'll all be laughing at ea. not respawn, they had potential but it was taken by ea.

[@leifparon1561]

hate him or not, he is obviously very skilled (in hacks) since this has never been done before. Could be internal information aswell. Regardless, He should be banned from apex but nothing more than that. Cheating is bad, but it should not be illeagal to cheat in a video game. A case could be made for getting other people banned and ruining their career. Anyway im actually kinda interested what he will come up with next.

[@morse0]

kinda admire him for exposing ea and respawn for being so greedy that they would rather focus on making as much money as possible rather than the security of their game. it makes them look stupid and tbh im all for it

[@JayJay-zi8ks]

Don't blame respawn, they are being forced by EA. F**k ea, respawn has so much potential but is just held back.

[@CloudidFPS]

It wasn’t Destroyer2009. He was an inside man for CNS!!

[@ThatCupcakKe]

the finals fans reach peculiar locations, respect

[@naganolopezjuliocesar2432]

CNS will change the rules, CNS will change apex, CNS will change everything

[@akiko5898]

take literally everything in this video with a grain of salt pls

[@sitrep]

One doesn’t keep playing a game with cheats if they didn’t enjoy playing the game. I think all destroyer wants is respawn to make apex fun again.

[@justinnavarro3049]

Respawn needs to hire this guy , imagine they just talking about this in a meeting and they’re all laughing with him

[@liamjamesevans]

Wow, this is seriously great documentary making Garret!

[@dooperpop3977]

Honestly Love destroyer2009, Ea is such a pos that has repeatedly fucked respawn over, seeing a solo hacker fuck with their bottom line for months and get away Scott free is absolutely beautiful

[@user-tm1ei6gx9i]

Timoxa is spelled like "timoha", letter x in English just happened to look exactly like letter х from russian and many more languages with cyrillic alphabet

[@ashrose5537]

Remember the old hackers that would hack tv broadcasting

[@sparkyenergia]

If you cant imprison him, hire him. Looks like Destroyer would do a better job than Hideouts ever could.

[@nickfrank4936]

hey Garret this was a really well made vid and entertaining as well. keep up the great work bud!

[@jacksonw2032]

Respawn should offer him a job on the tech side of Apex, he’s proven he has the skill. That way they are able to resolve the problem, figure out how he was able to exploit code, and avoid any negative backlash from trying to go after this kid through the Russian/Belarusian court system. Would reflect well on the company, and would reach a beneficial solution for all parties, including the players

[@thehero_oftime04]

If anything Destroyer helped wake EA up like you have a good game that’s so vulnerable that I can hack a huge event like, I don’t see him as a villain but more of an antihero as yes what he did was bad but he got his point across and got work done no matter what the consequences were

[@Quell__]

I thought about buying the 20 apex packs but then respawn showed how temporary our possesions in the game is. Seeing how my badges get removed, how my skins get removed, no way I pay a single cent into this. If I play enough, I buy the battle pass with my remaining credits and build up the credits that way.

[@RealGrandFail]

It's possible that Respawn did nothing and put out PR posts. Store discount hack is welcome though.

[@OhJustCommenting]

Grrt has been making so many longer vids. I dig it.

[@spacejay89]

This is the aftermath of carelessness Titanfall experienced - the only reason apex isn’t hacked into oblivion is cause of how popular it is. I truly believe(blissful ignorance) that the hackers could shut the game down if they wanted to risk their freedom. Maybe then we’d see some actual effort in removing cheaters and blocking hacks

[@Mell-FG19]

So when is it safe to play apex again?

[@not_sand3y]

Destroyer will and will always be the most notorious hacker in apex and other games

[@kenny228s]

I’m glad it happened cheating has always been out of control in this damn game for 20 seasons not to mention the Chronos zen and strike pack.

[@DragonRider6566]

4:16 it’s actually quite easy if you have access to the server. All you have to do is edit some tags in a person’s account and change their pack “balance” to whatever number you want. It’s a lot more complicated for multiplayer games, but for games like Risk of Rain 2, there’s a specific line of code that if you edit it you can have all the achievements (including the ones that steam tracks) and unlimited lunar coins.

[@jacthelad69]

Getting into the server is the hardest part lmao. I don't even understand the point of this comment, you probably used cheat engine to change a value one time.

[@DragonRider6566]

@@jacthelad69 i used no cheat engines lmao i can show you the exact method i used and you can use it too. but yes, getting into the server is the hard part, i never said it was easy. i said that once you are in, its easy to make the changes.

[@yeetusdeletus798]

Anyone ever gonna talk about who “R4ndom” is?

[@Grrt]

Lmao

[@Iced_pingu]

Always great when grrt posts ❤

[@Escobar720]

I haven't been able to play for weeks now. When I get into a game, the audio leaves and eventually my game freezes. The few times this didn't happen I was booted into the main menu after a kill.

[@kubasjtCZ]

i got false banned on rust too and the devs are just horible

[@corndawg6007]

Honestly Respawn should just hire the guy at this point and have him continue figuring out different cheats and show respawn how they work so that they can patch them and get them removed

[@loyisosiwani7248]

Is it just me or did they switch everyone's lifeline's mischief medic skin with the unreleased recolor

[@finnpanhuijsen8338]

Yes, this seems to be an ongoing bug for everyone.

[@ttvwraithisgoat5791]

2:20 what res is bro using

[@Off_Limits_III]

What is crazy? I recognize that rampart banner and remember fighting this same hacker for about a week. Was around season 14. There is so much to this. But maybe something will be done about hackers in Apex now? Idk.

[@A-RonV_V]

Noted. Get hacks, put it on some people computers spam chat so you don’t ruin there life (optional), get interviewed say it was for Titan fall. And boom now they made Titian fall 3 in 2 weeks.

[@SupremeVictoryStudios5377]

i have not played the game since.

[@goofygoodpasture8511]

respawn should hire this guy to fix the vuln

[@DaCreator000]

Destroyer is a hero, we all know respawn wasn't going to fix these kinds of issues on their own. He forced Respawn's hand!

[@rash3382]

I dunno if you aware of this, in Russian apex community one girl did another interview with the guy and he said that initially the point of of tourney hack was to show that game is vulnerable af. And the point was made. Everything else was done for fun, yeah, something like that

[@WeAreConfuzzled]

bro the rust music in the back ground lol

[@susvids3625]

Biger problem are ppl who build carier by cheating and they are protected by game cuz they buy all stuff in there.They are reason why Apex is trash game.And why they make so many skins that are bad.They are forced to buy them so they can earn money by streaming or whatewere

[@FolgenNamp]

At least he could give packs to all of us poor gamers xD Well, Destroyer2009 woke up Respawn, because the devs have been sleeping! Remember that Destroyer at least gave EA/Respawn good reasons to move (and we got some packs)!

[@TheGrimReapersx]

Bros isnt a villian nor hero bros a straight up vigilante…now that’s gangster 😂😂

[@Shaluof386]

Apex just needs to hire destroyer already so he can fix apex

[@anonapache]

say bye bye to aimassist then - finally

[@Shaluof386]

@anonapache I don't play with it on anyway even on consol it messes my aim up after playing pc and learning recoil patterns cuz it doesn't allow me to move right it's like it locks in like aim bot and messes everything up causes a slight lag in your movement that gets you killed

[@anonapache]

@@Shaluof386 what are you talking about? never heard about this.

[@Shaluof386]

@anonapache so aim assist slows your aim when within hitbox range so people with lower sensitivity will have a harder time turning from one enemy to the next compared to someone with no aim assist, with no aim assist I can do a 180 to fight who is behind me without that split second hold that aim assist does when stuck on a hitbox

[@jasonwolfblood9441]

Nah, how do you hack through a game without the game already having sketchy shit on it

[@visual_chris]

honestly I'm really thankful for this, maybe EA will finally do something about their damn game

[@tredyummy8572]

I mean ea needed a wake up call insane that a billion dollar company is ok leaving exploits in their game as long as they aren’t made too public and start costing them money we shouldn’t have to deal with rampant cheaters as a player base because a company is too lazy to fix it but I suppose that’s the world we live in with some of these companies great game sad company

[@crazynumber415]

I actually want to handshake with destroyer! He did what Respawn and EA deserve! They even ban a full accounts for hatespeech, which is dumb (i will understand you can get ban in the game you used hate speech, but full account ban for it its a little bit much). Personally, I support him for what he's doing!

[@SameOleBS]

the sibilant sound is strong with this one

[@raveaw379]

It does make sense for someone to abuse faults in a system to get them noticed and patched/to have fun I did the same thing at school, I'd access files and run programs that I wasn't supposed to be able to because I knew the technicians could see it and fix it and it was something to do that wasn't work

[@krisxpytot]

if he really is 18 im impressed o dont like hacking but wow never seen anything like it in 30 years ! they should give him a job maybe he can fix our game lol but on the real im moving on from apex slowly its been 6 years for me and some change

[@lonewolf0909]

A whole QA team for Apex was just laid off :)

[@user-pw1jx3rl1k]

what happened next did they got unbanned?

[@Sick_Sara]

Actual Villain origin arc. 😂

[@HypickelSupport]

In relation, roblox false terminated me, I started coding cheats for roblox on afterwards, the mindset is, "If I already lost everything, there's nothing else to lose."

[@FLUXXEUS]

Wonder if EA/respawn regret using the SOURCE engine now _😂😂😂😂_

[@magz8718]

Why you do wattsons face like that 😭

love the rust music

[@poggers-life]

i shouldn't of loaded up apex because my email got changed and then i got ban so now i gotta wait for them to resolve it

[@Prinz-Niar]

I Hope this Guy Start Hacking again in Apex ITS Just sad that he stoped there are too many ragecheaters in this fcking Game and when someones cheating Public Like this Guy EA s schittschow cant Go on

[@justcezeyofficial]

"Some would say i am the reverse"

[@JJ-fo7zj]

I wouldn’t mind if you start making longer videos, like video essays, center around apex topics or other video games

[@amazingren2539]

why wont it let me in the lobby in apex

[@crimzonkamui4498]

So basically destroyer was some what of a grey hat video game hacker. Tbh we need a lot more of these kinds of hackers with good intentions to make devs fix their security.

[@djcwittz3012]

It's important to say it is extremely unlikely that the hack was done with RCE and that Hal's and Gn's machines are compromised

[@X1erra]

Whoever this hacker is, he made history and a footprint in the cyber security topic, so much so his hack is the one that they will highlight over all others.

[@GhostRZ5]

Brutal video game? “GTA 6 hack” hold my drink

[@Altreux]

EA had it coming, shite of a company who's only goal is to make more money. Especially that fucking heirloom, instead of working on fixing the problem

[@eltdnam]

Destroyer needs to hack cs2 during a major because valve is doing jack shit with VAC

[@SorryDearie]

I was watching this at night and for some reason it was creepy with the music and the stuff 😭

[@matsderoos516]

idk my guy talking about 'justice' in this situation seems kinda off? Like the people who should be brought to trial are EA honestly, i feel like that should be possible no, i wonder why there's no class action against them yet, for lying failing to protect customer information or sum.

[@fullsendabeerforme2988]

The kid who hacked qnd leaked rockstar and put out the gta 6s trailer a day early got LIFE in prison. Hes still in jail.. this hacker is playing with fire. If these big corpos want to shut him bad enough. They will. If it was me tho? Id give him a job. His creativity with the cheats is admirable.

[@SKRIE.]

Destroyer2009 anti hero rise? Destroyer fighting a greedy company by hacking one of the biggest game tournaments in the world. Then respawn hires him to help prevent hacks and improve security system. I’m cooking with the lore.

[@TheRazackk]

at least one of the player got hacked, because of the wrong configuration of his router. He install Malewarebyte for antivirus scan and the it show up a incoming connection, they normale would blocked by the router. Instead of only forward the ports needed from the game, he forwarded all traffic to his pc. Thats allow everybody to connect to the services the computer offer, for example network shares.

[@pyrogotz5076]

I have to wonder if destroyer got into mandes PC while he was interviewing him. Thats how he got into the AGLS.

[@o5Raid]

Genburten: *leaves after getting hacked* Hal: „what if i just don‘t shoot“ *starts shooting a few seconds later*💀

[@dimasddfoxy1492]

16 MIN GRRT VIDEO?!?!?

[@manorexia1964]

Nahhh Destroyer2009 should work for Respawn to fix the game and AUDIO

[@thekarumi8746]

destroyer just brings justice for lazy ass EA that prefer collection events to actually fixing their game, like sound is broken science launch and servers are straight up garbage

[@wamblygorrila134]

Nah bro Destroyer is doing God's work. Him hacking into people's accounts just shows how poor Apex is at handling hackers and has been an ongoing issue very since the game came out. Not only that but they really deserve it, I remember when Apex was a fun game but hackers ruin it and their collection event that they release within one week of each other is starting to get out of hand and be really annoying when they keep labeling it as content

[@ConnorLease]

Thank you Queen_Clem and Mande for all you've done

[@domonator5000]

I don’t think he really deserves to be punished. He did respawn a favor in the long run. Just cause corporate egos don’t wanna be exposed doesn’t mean it’s wrong

[@danborg1228]

This hacks had a good goal agree with him, it´s way to easy to cheat in games to day and only way to to force them to get beter is do somting like this and he had a valid point what if he did not make it obvious this 2 guys was beeing hacked he could done some serius dmg to their rep he did not we need people like him so gready shit compnays like ea/respawn don´t oversharge for skins and ban people more likly for toc vilotions then cheating.

[@Destiny041]

This hack made me download the game again and made me even for first time waste money and buy the battle pass 😭😭

[@ACE.OF.SPADES13]

Bro The Rust Music

[@ZeroRed78]

It blows my mind people aren't more up in arms on this. One major thing not mentioned in this video is after Respawn's statement they replayed the ALGS regional finals in secret. So even after whatever patches they deployed they still were not confident enough to even let the public know when the competition was happening, much less stream it live. If the individual streamers' machines were compromised outside of Apex, I think we'd know that by now to ease peoples' concerns. That's not something that would affect stock prices or anything. So I think the logical conclusion is that there was/is some exploit that allowed this person to install cheats on these peoples' machines through Apex. And if that's true, other people could do far worse with such a vulnerability. And that's why I'd be hesitant to load this game. Not that I'd be worried this guy would target me or anything. Just that you'd end up in a random game with one of these other people who just wants to grab random people's credit card information or whatever.