How To Add Lyrics and Scripture To Your Live Stream Without A Video Switcher | NDI Scan Converter

[@POrwig]

Thanks AJay; I was watching another video from another youtuber and I was about to purchase a Gigabit switcher when I came upon your video, I was not wanting to purchase a switcher and I knew this could be done without one. Thanks man! I run the main overhead projector in my church and we started doing Facebook Live!!

[@AJaytheCEO]

Awesome. Glad this helped. If your church just started live streaming, please add your church and stream to my list of 1000 new churches live streaming. grow.ajayholmes.com/2020goal

[@POrwig]

@@AJaytheCEO Sometime this weekend, I will set up everything I need to do so our scriptures and songs will be displayed on our live feed and I will definitely do this. I know how to add lower thirds, but I wanted to do animated lower thirds, I just started using OBS and my end goal it to have animated lower thirds come on when a singer begins to sing a song and then a different animated lower third when my dad gives his sermon, I am working on ideas; but I want to have an animated scroll opening up to reveal the scriptures and then once he is done I click another button and the animation reverses.

[@POrwig]

I also found out that if for some reason the SDI scan converter does not show up or you can not install the Newtek NDI 4 Tools, check your CPU, I had to upgrade my quad core to another CPU, this NDI Scan converter needs to talk to your display through network. It needs SSSE3 instructions. A program called CPU-Z which is free; will check your CPU. Once you run this program look under the CPU tab which should be chosen by default and look towards the middle where it says "Instructions".

[@ethanadams5337]

Easy Worship has built in NDI compatibility as well so you can output the live lyrics as a NDI stream without having to download NewTeks tools if you didn't want to...Great video btw

[@AJaytheCEO]

Awesome. We haven't used easy worship in years so that is an awesome update. Makes this whole thing even easier

[@rccgshepherdhousederby990]

But easy worship is not free

[@timkline8005]

Thank you so much. This video helped me get this set up for our live stream. Looking forward to using it!

[@AJaytheCEO]

Glad to be of help

[@boujeenative5868]

Awesome ! Thanks for the info ! Subscribed !

[@AJaytheCEO]

You're welcome

[@drpeks]

Thank you so much. You literally helped my team today. We use vmix and proclaim and i have been the one both operating vmix and proclaim when the pastor calls the scriptures and its been hella frustrating. Now i can have someone else operating the other system for proclaim and just sending it to me.

[@AJaytheCEO]

Glad it helped

[@evidenceeriamiatoe3815]

Can this still work if my church only uses one computer to run easyworship and obs? We have a HDMI splitter going to several TV's in the church to run the live output of easyworship.

[@AJaytheCEO]

Yes but what are you connecting your output to?

[@evidenceeriamiatoe3815]

AJaytheCEO We connect the output from the computer via HDMI to the TVs.

[@AJaytheCEO]

Ok a solo computer will work

[@HWolfeIII]

Thanks Brother for this great info. I'm helping set up a system for my church and we will be using OBS Studio.

[@Nightrailer]

This helped me get VMix with NDI setup with slides feeding from Prosper. Many thanks good sir.

[@AJaytheCEO]

Glad it helped

[@fasteddy760]

I’m confused by the title as you used two switchers, OBS, _and_ vMix to complete the workflow. The title is what I’m looking for, the video is close, but not what I’m after. How would you put a lower third over an image/video/Zoom call using only NDI tools, and _no_ switcher?

[@AJaytheCEO]

It was more about no hardware switcher needed

[@fasteddy760]

@@AJaytheCEO Makes sense. I think I found a solution using OBS in the cloud (AWS EC2 instances). = ]

[@mtnguyen1696]

How many computers you have going on here for the demo? Can you help describe all the hardware setup or you may already have a video on this already you can point me to? Thx in advance.

[@Crack_Hub03]

when you are in a full screen in vmix in other to display the out put to a second monitor, the automatically changes to second to what ever is been output in vmix

[@bernieambrosio8378]

Glory to God this is really helpful, but can I ask a question about what is the required MBPS for streaming live? I've already try it but it only take a few sec then interrupted until it cant connect anymore. I'm using a internet connection with a data cap allowance for a month here in Philippines

[@AJaytheCEO]

Well that is the issue. I can't give you a specific number as the number is determined by your internet upload speed as well as your data cap.

[@cwengl]

Great help! Thank you and God bless!

[@AJaytheCEO]

Glad it helped

[@samuelbrown3512]

Very helpful! Thanks for the information! This is giving me some new ideas to discuss with my team and plan on how we can implement some of this technology.

[@AJaytheCEO]

Awesome and you are welcome.

[@cotrqt]

These video have been so helpful but i have a question and guess problem... when we change scenes From our camera scene (which is miced to our sound board) to our media (we use media shout) I have no audio. I’ve muted all but the black magic capture device - that our cameras running through. If I don’t I’m having feed back issues. Hope you can understand my issue... hoping I don’t have to by a switcher but maybe I need to. Thanks for any help you can give.

[@AJaytheCEO]

Do you have all audio disabled under settings and audio and only capturing audio in your scene or are they still enabled under settings?

[@cotrqt]

AJaytheCEO no I think I disabled all but the one for my capture Device. I was so confused over all that where running in the back ground and we had a sync issue I think I finally fixed. (Still running face book live tests until I get bugs out]

[@cotrqt]

I can check for sure tomorrow when I’m back at church

[@cotrqt]

AJaytheCEO looking at my settings in obs - under audio I have I have desktop audio at default desktop audio to disabled Mike auxiliary audio and default and the rest disabled. Do the advanced audio properties I have the black magic device active at hundred percent the desktop audio active 30% and the mic/aux activate 300%. In my scenes I have: Camera with the source as black magic device. Next scene is my Media Shout with its source as Black magic design 2.

[@oniowilliams9373]

Thanks bro very helpful stay blessed

[@AJaytheCEO]

You're welcome

[@davidmark1028]

Hello canyou help me in my NDI source name the dropdown list does not detect screen sources...

[@AJaytheCEO]

Make sure you allowed the NDI to go through your firewall on the sending and receiving side

[@ScottWallace5]

Super cool and useful, great tip!

[@healingyourmind7424]

Brother will you be able to monitor my laptop remotely and help me setup live streaming videos?

[@rodneyjackson5586]

We have 2 computers. One is for the OBS setup / Livestream and the other is for our powerpoint slides that we project to the tvs in the church. My question is: how do I get the whats on the powerpoint monitor over to the computer that runs our OBS? what cord or capture card should I be buying for this?

[@AJaytheCEO]

You don't need a cord, you only need to install the ndi tools scan converter on the presentation computer and the ndi obs plug in and then you can capture to presentation monitor outputing words to obs as an ndi source

[@PraisechurchNY]

Great! So helpful. I would like to know how works the team... Pastor, worship leader, sound tech and media team... I can see there is a lot of work for having the service ready to go... any Team Work tricks?

[@ebelecharles1073]

Hi Ajay thanks for all your tutorials they are all amazing please is there any way I can do a karaoke while live streaming with the lyrics on top of my video?

[@evangeltemple1916]

Thanks Ajay for the helpful videos! How can we get easy worship to show a full screen song display in house and lower thirds online?

[@AJaytheCEO]

Which version of easy worship are you using?

[@sherrybrown336]

@@AJaytheCEO I am using EW 7

[@tiffanysparks3412]

we have the HMDI out from our laptop running Proclaim to the projector. I was told that we could run a "confidence monitor" output via NDI to OBS (on different computer) and change the confidence monitor settings to lower thirds format and that can be captured in OBS. However I only have 1 output from our laptop. Do I need to get a docking station with another output in order for system to recognize a third screen in order to use confidence monitor settings in OBS? In other words I need the image projecting in sanctuary to be normal slides but what shows up in OBS to be lower third format.

[@AJaytheCEO]

If this is built in then no additional physical monitor is needed. Propresenter 7 does this as well over NDI

[@tiffanysparks3412]

@@AJaytheCEO Unfortunately Proclaim does not have a built in NDI monitor like Propresenter. So, I am assuming I need to have a 2nd output in order to make this happen, correct? ie. 1 HDMI output to projector and another HDMI output to confidence monitor (that we dont use)/ or the HDMI to VGA converter mentioned in your other video so it thinks there is another screen - then I can change that "screen" setting to confidence monitor and capture in OBS?

[@BradK02]

So if I'm using propresentor,. And using a background that's not black. How do I get the text over to my streaming PC as lower thirds. As it's easy to key out black but not other backgrounds. And I know about buying the module 😄.

[@AJaytheCEO]

It works the same way no matter the color. It just needs to be a solid color or you crop out the part you don't want to see

[@BradK02]

Thanks for the reply. Trying to figure out how to display the lyrics from pro presenter to my streaming PC. Might try the crop feature. But need to see if it will display correctly. Thanks.

[@BradK02]

Also I DNT use solid colors....mostly moving background's...and DNT really want to buy a module. Rather upgrade to 7 instead.

[@bnaudie]

NDI is intriguing. I am livestreaming from an iMac with OBS. A PC runs ProPresenter and I will grab the lyrics with NDI from the PC to to the iMac and OBS as you explain in this video. Is it also possible to send the audio/video broadcast to other PCs and smart TVs on the LAN with NDI? I would like to livestream the service into a conference that has a smart TV on the LAN.

[@AJaytheCEO]

Yes you can. I did this at my church but you need a computer or specific device to decide the NDI for the tv. It won't work going directly to the TV

[@bnaudie]

@@AJaytheCEO what will the source be? Where do I grab the audio video of the l livestream? I am streaming only to Facebook. Thank you!

[@jamiepursley1529]

Hi - How did you make your intro video?

[@chaitanyaguthala3071]

Hi is it the same way to do with wirecast

[@AJaytheCEO]

Yes it is

[@gstjudhayt433]

How can we keep Bible verse in different languages in one display

[@ailo14]

Also, the lower thirds format on my propresenter don’t always capture a scripture or lyric properly. I usually have to edit a little bit to get it to come out nicely on the screen.

[@terracealliancechurch]

WIll this work from sending the output from our Media PC to our Streaming PC?

[@AJaytheCEO]

Yes it will

[@terracealliancechurch]

@@AJaytheCEO Ok, we tried it today in our service, and I was able to get it to work really well in the week, but today it was about 20 seconds delayed so we didnt end up using it. Not too sure why this was the case, but I'm thinking the problem might be that the Streaming PC is not on Ethernet yet. I've setup the PC in the meanwhile while we wait for our ISP tech to install it this week. Do you think that was the problem? Also do you possibly know if I can somehow take the output from out Media computer and convert it to HDMI and input it into the streaming PC or is that not possible? My other option I was thinking was to have a zoom call and then screenshare the media Pc and then pick it up and input in the streaming PC and key out backgrounds? What would you suggest and what are your thoughts?

[@nathanloyd8388]

Hey AJay, what does E-Missionary mean or stand for?

[@AJaytheCEO]

Someone that uses technology to share God's Word with people they may never meet

[@gutierreznetwork]

Hello community just in case you dont know easyworship 7 supports NDI output with alpha as well

[@AJaytheCEO]

Thanks for that update

[@raimonrajan1675]

Instead of using worship extreme can we able to use Video Psalm? Does OBS support Video Psalm by using NDI...

[@adedayofajemisin4767]

Yes. This is exactly what I use at my church

[@raimonrajan1675]

We use Extend option to Project Video Psalm ,By using NDI it is possible ??? On live streaming

[@adedayofajemisin4767]

@@raimonrajan1675 Yes it is..., With NDI... You will have OBS read it as an NDI source

[@themereasianchristian]

Hi, thanks for the video. I appreciate these videos. I am wondering if there's a way for me to do the same thing with just a single monitor or a laptop without another display/projector connected?

[@AJaytheCEO]

I would try this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGS7hYOGmcSGnbc

[@resurrectionlifechurchcadi8404]

Is there a way to get the black magic software control to “see” the NDA signal as an extra input? As in use just this NDA signal as one of my “camera” views?

[@resurrectionlifechurchcadi8404]

*NDI

[@AJaytheCEO]

Currently no. Blackmagic devices do not see or interact with NDI sources

[@tomwhitcombe7621]

What I'm not understanding is why you need the NDI plugin? Could you not do an ordinary screen capture?

[@AJaytheCEO]

You could but this is normally for presentations being done on a separate system not the same system

[@unionbaptistofhartford4421]

Thanks for the info. We have the scan converter but we're still having trouble getting a second display to show up in vMix. When we go to the add input and NDI Desktop capture option, we're only getting one display from the graphics card. Is there something we need to do to get the 2nd display to come up?

[@AJaytheCEO]

That is strange. I've never seen where one screen it is available but not the other.

[@Heatlifer305]

THANK YOU

[@jessicabrooks7508]

I'm new to this and I just bought about $900 worth of equipment, here is 2 things I bought, do i need anything else to start my Facebook LIVE services? As of right now I have my windows PC and 1.Canon Vixia HF R800 And 2. Elgato - Game Capture HD60 S+ I also have VMix. Do I need anything else right now? Trying to go cheap as possible.

[@AJaytheCEO]

Sorry for the delay, KZbin marked a bunch of comments for review and I just got to yours. Yes that is all you need. What system are you using as that may give you some performance issues if it can't handle the encoding and streaming.

[@PPCPindoraRawalpindi]

God Bless You

[@AJaytheCEO]

Thank you. God bless you as well

[@newlifekm5811]

We have a pc running media shout already. We also have a camera that records services. Can I put osb on a separate laptop and connect both of those other sources and broadcast them both?

[@AJaytheCEO]

Yes you can just make sure the computer running OBS is hardwired and you should be fine. What are the specs of the laptop?

[@newlifekm5811]

AJaytheCEO thanks for your quick response. What do you mean by hardwired? Like the the streaming laptop needs to be hardwired to the network or that the computer that’s running media shout should be hardwired to the streaming laptop? For my streaming laptop I’m using a MacBook Pro i9 processor, 8 core and 32g ram. Thanks again for your help.

[@calebtv9818]

So is this means that using NDI, even though I only have 1 monitor but with the use of NDI I can have 2 screens in one monitor? Like I can play the powerpoint presentation in NDI and at the same time operate in my main screen? Thank you for your response!

[@angellilly7982]

Thank you brother for your videos.I am trying to give live worship on you tube through web camera by using obs and also trying to display lyrics but when i was giving live my desktop was visible to everyone one and what i am operating can be seen by everyone please suggest me how to give live without showing my display which i was operating and i want to show only thing which i would like to show. I am poor in English if any wrongs please forgive me and please give me suggestion

[@AJaytheCEO]

You need to have a second monitor so that will be the presentation screen that everyone sees and then no one can see the screen you are using to operate everything.

[@angellilly7982]

@@AJaytheCEO thank you

[@angellilly7982]

Thank you for your response i did it but I had another problem while giving live obs streaming was very slow and getting more buffering .But without obs there was no buffering in live what should I do please reply to me and thank you so much for your suggestion

[@AJaytheCEO]

@@angellilly7982 buffering is due to the platform or your internet connection. As long as OBS is green on your connection then it is either the viewers ISP or the platform

[@angellilly7982]

Ok thank you so much

[@UnityTempleCols]

I need to add two cameras for my church live stream. I want to add a PTZ for the main view 60 ft away and a camera 30 ft away for the side view of the musicians. I don't know what kind of cameras I should select. What's are some good cameras?

[@AJaytheCEO]

I love the Aida Imaging PTZs

[@grandmaestertraveltech]

@Ajay. If get you correctly, the other monitor is a full fledged PC right? Wouldn't NDI Scan Converter capture the entire screen and anything showing on it? Meaning if EW is opened on that PC it should show the UI of EW.

[@AJaytheCEO]

It is only a display of the system it's connected to

[@grandmaestertraveltech]

@@AJaytheCEO Thanks. Can I ask an off the topic question? So, I have a scenario when I want to stream different users who are in separate locations, how can I do this using OBS? How do I get their video feeds as a source in OBS?

[@ernestagyemang8955]

please i have install ndi and have run it but it does not appear at the obs add sources......any help thank you

[@AJaytheCEO]

Which NDI version did you install? Try to look up NDI OBS plugin if it isn't showing up

[@ernestagyemang8955]

@@AJaytheCEO i got the 4.1, i just downloaded it today.... i will try the ndi obs plugin and get back to you

[@shorechristianfellowship9393]

@@AJaytheCEO I am having the same issue - installed NDI Tools on our Worship Extreme PC, but OBS is not seeing it when I try to add an NDI Source on the separate OBS computer - is there something that I need to do on either machine to cause them to see one another? The NDI Test Pattern works if I turn that on on our WE computer and then open the Studio Monitor on the OBS machine, just can't get it to see it within OBS. Thanks!!!

[@kingdomcentral2958]

God Bless. Thankyou

[@AJaytheCEO]

Thank you

[@brycepowers3220]

Can you show me this process with Proclaim to Livestream Studio 6

[@AJaytheCEO]

I'll try once I get back home in a week

[@Drillbit993]

this is an awesome video. you just took it to the next level! how did you create that lower third in worship extreme?

[@AJaytheCEO]

Make everything green and make a template with the margins set to the lower third of the screen.

[@Drillbit993]

And it will automatically stretch the lines of the verses to the edges?

[@AJaytheCEO]

@@Drillbit993 yes it will

[@angelitovillanueva630]

Is it possible: I'm using laptop for presentation Then I want to stream it what my laptop presenting using other pc? Thank you

[@AJaytheCEO]

Yes you can do that

[@angelitovillanueva630]

How is that possible? Do I need multidisplay?

[@herrykiswanto16]

Very like it...

[@chenila13]

why i cant turn on the second screen?

[@calebryan474]

I installed it but it’s not showing in obs

[@AJaytheCEO]

Did you install the plug in or only the NDI tools?

[@KingTone814]

Can we use this in the sanctuary with Pro presenter as well?

[@AJaytheCEO]

Yes you can

[@AJaytheCEO]

Check out my NDI viewer. I did this at my church

[@ikenew]

Does NDI work for MacOS Catalina 10.15?

[@AJaytheCEO]

It should but please check newtek site for os restrictions

[@ikenew]

Thanks for the quick response. I installed OBS-NDI for Mac but it has not been working. So I’m not sure if this is a different one

[@AJaytheCEO]

You need the runtime too

[@ikenew]

Okay can you clarify that for me, I am new in that area. Where can I get that from please? God bless you

[@ikenew]

I am thinking of installing the NDI tools you demonstrated in the video

[@goodshepherdworldwide8339]

i have hp core i 3, galaxy note8+ and rebel t5 dslr camera. i want to start you tube live stream. what you prefer for me to use obs. and help me to improve my picture quality.

[@AJaytheCEO]

The i3 will not be fast enough to handle your stream without an additional GPU

[@qfcnashville2307]

Great tutorial but i don't know if its just me, i missed how you added the ndi to obs, you already had it in your obs when you launched it.

[@AJaytheCEO]

No problem the downloads needed are in the description at the top and under suggested

[@generationsarising]

Is there a way to import mp3's into Worship Extreme and play them from the application and add lyrics over the MP3? and or mp4?

[@AJaytheCEO]

Yes. The audio is at the bottom when adding a new cue

[@generationsarising]

@@AJaytheCEO Thank you

[@AJaytheCEO]

@@generationsarising you are welcome

[@jessejae5820]

This is helpful now that we are in a lock down situation where most churches have to livestream. We have Easyworship 9 and running Streamlabs OBS. Will this set up using NDI work?

[@AJaytheCEO]

Yes it will kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnOlppqvf9Z9d7c

[@rachelmiller2991]

Hi Ajay God bless you for your work Do I need 1 monitors to be able to add lyrics as lower thirds to live stream video?

[@AJaytheCEO]

An additional monitor would help but it is not needed.

[@moosicxart9732]

Hi AJay, does this work if I use powerpoint?

[@AJaytheCEO]

exact same way. Just output powerpoint to your second monitor, use scan converter to turn each monitor into an output, in OBS the second monitor will be an option as an input

[@EverydayPastor]

I'm guessing your background has to be a solid color in order for this to work?

[@AJaytheCEO]

Yes that makes it easier

[@BradK02]

But in-house having, a black background is not great,, so how can we use normal backgrounds.

[@AJaytheCEO]

That is the restriction outside of cropping the screen

[@guitarguts666]

The script could be resized in OBS then you wouldn't have it take up the entire frame or half the picture just because it was built that way.

[@ChapelOfNewSongsMararaba]

Looking at your desktop thinking it's part of the presentation, I thought you were going to say, "the first thing you need is BE ORIGINAL..."

[@AJaytheCEO]

Lol. I change my desktop weekly work motivational quotes

[@tomcollins1449]

SAME HERE

[@naiveamericans]

When using 2 PC's plugged into the same switcher, do the PC's have to see each other?

[@AJaytheCEO]

If you are talking about the network switch, yes they should

[@brettmuamba3072]

God Bless you bro!!! This is SUPER HELPFUL! #beginnerstreamer

[@AJaytheCEO]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ailo14]

Great video as always. Quick question Ajay. Does this mean one should use a different computer for the pro presenter that the congregation is viewing from the pro presenter that is used for live streaming lower thirds. I assume one wouldn’t be projecting lower thirds for their congregation?

[@ailo14]

For live streaming, the only way I am comfortable using the propresenter as is for live streaming is to show the exact same screen that the congregation is seeing (I.e, not lower thirds)

[@JOVFWCTV]

Tsk. Thank you sir. your videos helps us a lot..

[@AJaytheCEO]

Glad they are helping

[@rachel23ramz]

Do you need two monitors?

[@AJaytheCEO]

Your computer needs to think there are 2 monitors. I did a recent video to get around this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGS7hYOGmcSGnbc

[@fidelgannaban3955]

why does ndi does not appear in obs?

[@AJaytheCEO]

Sounds like you are missing the plugin if it is not showing.

[@lashawnkaigler8946]

Can this work on a laptop?

[@AJaytheCEO]

yes it can

[@aaimginggraphics2411]

HOW do u actually CONNECT !!...im running 2 computers....one for imag and one for stream.....AND im hard wired into my streaming computer ....so how do you connect???

[@AJaytheCEO]

How do you have your imag system hardwired into your streaming computer?

[@aaimginggraphics2411]

@@AJaytheCEO 2 different computers

[@AJaytheCEO]

@@aaimginggraphics2411 install the NDI software on the presentation computer and run scan converter. On system 2 running OBS install the NDI plugin and computer one will be available as an NDI source

[@aaimginggraphics2411]

@@AJaytheCEO ty....and connect the 2 of them via a cat 5 cable?....the one running easy worship is a pc and the one running obs is a mac and is hard wired for internet so connected both of them to the router and will assign a static IP for that purpose....is that the way this should work?

[@AJaytheCEO]

@@aaimginggraphics2411 yes you can do it that way or dynamic up addresses. With NDI they just need to be on the same network and they will find themselves on the network

[@isaiahadedotun400]

What about using easy worship?

[@AJaytheCEO]

It would work the exact same way. Latest version of ew has ndi built in

[@pdvmontreal1850]

Great

[@min.brianoracle6845]

OBS NDI DOWNLOAD LINK PLEASE

[@AJaytheCEO]

It's in the video description

[@kwinpreach]

Yeap, I'm completely lost!

[@BastiaanRodenburg]

Thank you. Question: why are you doing this by NDI? Because OBS has build in features to capture a screen and to capture contents of a specific window.

[@AJaytheCEO]

Mainly someone asked how to do this and the scriptures is running from another computer

[@allanmarvinnamooni182]

Hello

[@patricemot2497]

Sorry getting more interested because of ur explicit language. Your direct with options fillers which trigger creativity on my side. Thank you. GBY

[@EmongTimothy]

Yassss yassssssssss yasssss

[@robertoleonijr4066]

Very confusing. Thanks anyway.

[@AJaytheCEO]

Which part?