How To Approach Odd Time Drumming (Simon Phillips Lesson)

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[@andreasbreitwieser1449]

For me, Simon is a CONSTANT, he was there in all decades, in all periods, in all times, like the big brother in music I never had, but still there! I saw him in TV, on videos, in workshops, had LP's, CD's, DVD's, now downloads. His soft warm voice, his cordial ironical and winkingly commentaries and the always great sounding BIG drum set is something familiar, just belongs to my live! Thank you Simon, thank you Mr. Phillips, God bless you!

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Lovely sentiments of one of the all time greats!!

[@victordiez7772]

Simon is the drummer reference and icon of other drummers that have been icons and have been extremely important in drumming history. But all of them have one thing in common: Their respect and admiration about Simon Phillips. The king of polirhythm, stick control and perfect (=equal) dynamic on every hand...🙌 a monster. An immense human and very humble artist and person. Simply marvellous.

[@Thebilliardman]

​@@victordiez7772perfectly said!!!

[@JohnBrown-ig5nc]

I think I could watch Simon all day. He's so relaxed and sitting right in that groove

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Right there with you

[@yordanmishev6781]

I'm a Bulgarian self-taught amateur drummer living in Scotland for about 8 years now, we have so much in common. You mentioning Bulgaria gave me the chills as all the other countries, we have more in common than differences! Wish people would drop borders and stereotypes and start enjoying what is good. Thank you!

[@teacherfromthejungles6671]

Music is truly an international language

[@PeteGalea]

Simon is awesome, I got to chat with him briefly at a clinic he did some time back in 2015/2016. Besides sharing some incredible playing, ideas and exercises he was just the most chill and down to earth guy to talk to afterwards; really took a moment to listen to people and connect with them. I think that really comes through in his playing and his general energy. What a great guy!

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Could not agree more!

[@BrandonToews]

He's a top notch guy!

[@sergiozdrums]

It is truly great how Simon makes those grooves sound so natural😮 it doesn't seem like they are uneven meters... super groovy super Musical

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That's the idea! Glad you ilke it :)

[@Cobalt985]

It's kind of weird because I'm someone who has listened to a lot of prog and fusion and hearing these odd meters in the context Simon puts them in makes them feel new, just like I'd never heard them before. So it really is a unique approach to odd meter drumming.

[@theprisoner6666]

Man alive, what a drummer. The way he drives different grooves with different limbs is insane. Total master.

[@mikosoft]

Simon's drum sound is probably the best sound I have ever heard. I bought Tama drums inspired by him and I also tune them similarly.

[@n_i_nx1743]

Its truly a pleasure to listen to Simon. Such a knowledgeable person and drummer. Guys like him, Colaiuta, Weckl, Smith and Gadd are really something else. Thanks Drumeo 🔥

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[@frankmeenzen787]

Thanx for the fine video! Another drummer who grooves very natural in odd meters was Pierre Moerlen! With him I started playing the odd meters.

[@diegoalexandrers]

A living legend! Thanks Drumeo for bring this guy here in the channel.

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Cheers, Diego!

[@billyyee1618]

Simon's drumming always amazed me. So very smooth and fluid. And those grooves..... One of my favourites always.

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Wow Drumeo. I remember this channel in its humble beginnings years ago. I've tuned in for so long. Now we're treated to Simon?? Props to you guys for sticking with it.

[@colinreynolds9600]

Just an amazing technician of complicated rhythms, made easy through experience and not getting pushed into a corner by those who want to be more rigid, and make life really complicated. . My opinion...he is just a fabulous experienced drummer... Colin

[@Lord.Furious]

Simon Phillips is not just a legendary drummer, he is an awesome tutor. Legend! A thousand thanks, Mr. Phillips for all the great ideas and all the shared knowledge !!!!

[@darrelldog5]

He makes it look so effortless.. So smooth and precise... What an amazing talent... Definitely, one of the best!!!

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For sure!

[@Thebilliardman]

Simon is one of the very few that amazes me every time I hear him play. He plays as perfect as humanly possible. Thank you Simon for sharing with us all!!!!

[@mattryan6886]

Simon Phillips open handed drumming is so cool. I’ve been building up my left hand/foot so I can play this same style. Ive also added 2nd hihat to my setup so can play open handed with my hihat on left or right side. I really like playing open handed especially when playing dance music. It also forces me to play different drum fills. It help keeps things fresh.

[@MawcDrums]

Open handed player here from the start. It always felt super weird playing snare backbeat grooves with my left hand so playing the ride on the right was a challenge for me for anything involving lots of ghost notes on the left. The moment I found out I was allowed to have my ride on the left side of my kit my world completely changed lol. Now I've got more of an ambidextrous setup, two snares, two highhats, two rides, floor toms on both sides, and I've developed that left hand more to overcome that initial handicap.

[@laporte1625]

Wow. Wasn't familiar with Simon Phillips, and he is so technical, yet so smooth and musical. Great stuff!

[@buzzfunk]

You…what??? :(

[@laporte1625]

@@buzzfunk Just starting out on drums ;)

[@garethtaylor1258]

@@laporte1625 there was a time when buzzfunk wasn't aware of SP too.

[@gordonvolkert2304]

Simon you are a master. What an inspiration to all of us drummers!

[@buzzfunk]

Simon Philips is a legend. Already loved him during his super drumming days on the English TV show back then. He played on so many records. He really is unique.

[@ЙорданКирчев-э9с]

I'm from Bulgaria and yes, 9/8 is very popular in traditional music but 7/8 is even more popular. Basically slow tempo songs are in 9/8 and the fast one are in 7/8.

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Interesting!

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@@DrumeoOfficial Apparently not interesting enough not to "override" it.

[@roloduarte3100]

Simon is such an amazing drummer.

[@jcdrums2798]

listening simon explane is one thing....doing what he explane is another world!

[@zachokonkwo8351]

Great video, beautiful playing beautifully explained! Drumeo is really stepping up it’s game production and editing wise, sounds incredible. Really well put together!

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Thank you on behalf of the team! I only made the transcriptions, but the whole editing is killer. Thank you!

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@@sergioponti8902 Yo those transcriptions are super impressive, always in awe of people who are good at that as I don’t do it enough!

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@@zachokonkwo8351 thank you! Indeed the trick is tondo them consistently! Thank you for your words!

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Thanks Zach! Glad you’re enjoying the content lately!🔥

[@zachokonkwo8351]

@@BrandonToews glad you saw this comment because a lot of what I’m enjoying features you of late, you’re a killer player love your approach!

[@davidoeberto]

What a master. And a great communicator. Love these Simon Phillips videos. Very cool idea to group odd time signatures into even when playing.

[@SentientSeven]

Both a fantastic drummer and a great human being, great video!

[@techjoriane146]

The best period, the pinnacle of modern drumming Simon Philipps, Musicality Virtuoso!

[@peasinapodcomic]

Thanks for posting this. I had no idea who Simon Phillips was. He's got a great attitude and amazing ability!

[@petersonpaludo9366]

One of the Best Drummers of the World!!!!!!!

[@myopicautisticmetal9035]

I remember being probably 4 or 5 years old when I first heard Judas Priest Sin after Sin and Simon Phillips playing wicked triplets and double bass beats, that was when I decided I wanted to play drums, Simon and Neil Peart started my interest.

[@bogdantocut1278]

What an inspiring musician. Always learning new things. And he acts s-o humble. He truly knows what is his musical worth. Thank you !

[@richards6065]

I love listening to Simon play!!! I'm a guitar player and I get most of my inspiration from musicians like this.

[@CarlosCamilo]

The protocol albums from Simon are the best thing to ride a bike to. It really pushes you to experience the now! Love it, thank you Simon for all the musical wisdom, all my music has been elevated thanks to your drumming. Blessings!

[@robertgowdey]

I found this channel because I'm a Tool fan so I had to sub because while I don't myself drum I'm fascinated by it. This is awesome.

[@geno43bom]

This man made it sound and feel to easy... He is a f***ing GENIUS!!!!

[@drumlover1687]

He was playing open handed, before open handed was cool. Phenomenal drummer, phenomenal musician!!!

[@DimitrisDanaidis]

Thank you Mr Phillips for all the magic sounds you produce... Magnificent sound above all with fluid and every hit that counts. If I have at least half the energy and love for the instrument you have in your 60's, I ll be so happy!

[@Astrix_Jaeger]

It's so amazing how he makes it sounds so appealing. By adding even metered accents to an odd metered beat.

[@WhiteNigga643]

Thank you Mr. Phillips for mentioning my country! Yes, in Bulgaria the odd meters are used all the time and we have quite a different approach to them. For anyone interested I recommend Ivo Papasov - Bulchenska Ruchenitsa, Stoyan Yankoulov - Kopanitsa, Ivan Milev i ork. Mladost - Kitka, etc. These musicians are mind blowing, have fun listening! :D

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Thanks, we'll check it out!

[@BobbyJamesCote333]

Beautifully said... "Even in the Odds" The 1st Knowledge of Odd Timing I ever had was a book from Berkeley My Music Instructor handed me back in Middle School (80's🙄) .. Titled the Same. Wasn't until the last 20 years that I feel Like a complete grasp on odd time signatures started to occur, and it happened on its own. Kinda funny how relating 4/4 to all other signatures actually works. Great Video Folks 💯❤️🤙

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Thanks, Bobby!

[@perrywhitley485]

I really regret not continuing my passion. But, Simon makes it so fore filling. I could watch him day and night. Thank you.

[@sylvainlaporteAMOUR777]

Thank you so much Drumeo! One of the best master

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Cheers, Sylvain!

[@neonom1024]

I love his voice and delivery. Simultaneously relaxing and reassuring

[@glenandal8244]

Very imformative Professional drummer of the decade and humble ❤❤

[@endmok]

One of the best musicians out there. Thanks for the video. Amazing!

[@timcloutier3729]

EVERYTHING about Simon Phillips playing is nothing less then PURE PERFECTION. 🤘🏻❤️🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁❤️🤘🏻

[@tylermoseley935]

You guys at Drumeo always seem to find the best drummer to fit every video!

[@BradsGonnaPlay]

If you have musicians in your band that won’t let you as a drummer add odd time feels to their songs because it has no groove, I recommend learning every single thing this man can teach you. Absolutely unbelievable sense of human rhythm.

[@danthemanmillan]

Making that technicality look so easy!

[@CGibbs]

Toto was and is my parents favorite band. Growing up aspiring to play like Simon was a great pleasure (and porcaro) - my dad is also a drummer so protocol was a big inspiration for me as well. And there was a couple drum nation album volumes that featured Simon, namely manganese and the barbarian were killer tracks! Simon has been my favorite drummer for my entire life. I’ll never forget the fill off totos falling in between album in “bottom of your soul” or the groove of “slipped away” from tambu. Simons playing are what make those songs so great imo - thank you Simon for all the amazing music in my life!

[@kevrenshaw6177]

Honestly, when I first heard this as a die hard Toto fan and drummer I was bladdered and drunk.. Then tried to play it the next day.. and the next.. and the next.. 5 years later.. :-)

[@roadcree]

Simon has been a major inspiration since first discovering the 802 album. Toto being in my top three favs, I learned this song over 20 years ago as I thought the drumming was as good as the space boogie performance on there and back.

[@Drumsholic]

Amazing Drumming and relaxed playing as hell...this is a masterous drumming of mr.Phillips!!!Great Work to show this Drumeo!!!

[@RelicOnMaui]

In the 70's I was studying tabla from a true master from India. I learned this trick I've tried to pass on... learn to count a half-beat. 5 becomes 2+1/2.. 7 becomes 3+1/2... 19 becomes 9+1/2. Once I caught that, improvising in 5, 7, 11, becomes really easy to "feel" and you no longer are "counting"

[@CaptainSpyware]

Yeah! FINALLY a Performance of "Dave's gone Skiing"! I wish Simon and the Toto Boys would have done more material like that. But why was it cut short? Apart from that, I really would love to know if there is unreleased Toto material from the 90's and the 2000's… Will it ever see the day of light? I hope so…

[@BrandonToews]

Hey! I produced this video with Simon and he edited down a few of the tracks just to showcase the main parts. That was just his preference!

[@CaptainSpyware]

@@BrandonToews Ah, alright! I understand. Did you ask him if there is any unreleased Toto material with him? He mentioned at the drum roundtable on drum channel that when they were doing a record for Sony (must be either Tambu or Mindfields), the A&R guy didn't like some of their material and also, they didn't do any demos... It's kinda a bummer that Simon and the guys only recorded 3 studio albums

[@stevenausten9935]

A true master of the craft 👍

[@actnaturally388]

Love his style, it’s hard to make complex music so fluid and groovy! He did it so effortlessly, hope he can share more about his practice routines.

[@someguy7680]

Probably 10-11 years ago bought a loop pack from Simon Phillips. He essentially played drums on my first solo effort/EP. Was certainly very basic time signatures, and I have so much more respect for him watching this. So zen, so in the zone. And I love that he doesn’t try to mystify it, and just says let’s break it down as if it’s 4/4 with cutoffs. Still don’t know a ton about who he is, or what he’s worked on… but I do know I thoroughly enjoyed writing several songs with his drums as my backing rhythm. Drumeo is such a great channel/idea and I’m primarily a guitar player, but I could watch drumeo all day.

[@fymilantotianarakotoharife8963]

One of The Best, if he's not the first one. Just have a look on how he's playing and how he's explaining and sharing with a simple words , but for sure the most difficult groove that you ever trying to play... respect!

[@scotthiddleston8246]

Amazing! Simon can play anything, and with incredible pocket. In case anyone else was wondering, those are Armand Hi Hats. Discontinued for some silly reason.

[@docmilsap]

Simon is a fantastic drummer & a top man

[@ddsdss256]

I love playing in odd times but Simon's open-handed approach (part of his "secret sauce") is a bit challenging to adapt to after decades of the "conventional/classic" stick technique. I'd highly recommend trying to learn that as it offers many advantages (of course, you can often move the HH--Bruford's central placement obviously works).

[@jakenewlander6920]

it works unless your toms are attached to your bass drum

[@user-wy6by9lr5u]

Bravo mr.Simon ! 🥁👍

[@thebookdoc.writing.and.editing]

I have never been able to explain my sense of time. I knew triplets before I knew what they were. I think this video is brilliant. Take the meter off and make it right.

[@bernardoconnor5512]

Toto's Tambu is a very underrated album. Dave's Gone Skiing is a very important instrumental track that just seems to have flown under the radar 😕

[@stevewilcock4767]

Uber incredible! Rock on Simon! Cheers Drumeo.

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Cheers, Steve!

[@danielegruppioni1029]

Perfetto in tutto! Da grande Drummer 🔝! A Ingegnere del suono! Puro talento "Open Handed" 👏. 👋

[@juergenhammerschmid]

He's is and will will be the best drummer of all times!

[@davidbalan6571]

Yeah !! Baby odd Time 🥁 lessons for today's .

[@sayo443]

I like so many different drummers and style. Simon is definitely one of my favorites along with Thomas Haake🤘

[@Friend_of_the_One-Eyed_Ladies]

Love the tone of his kicks.

[@maidenless_tarnished]

How am I just now learning about this guy? This was incredible!

[@jametz66]

done MANY great things, his own albums, recordings with Jeff Beck, Peter Townsend, and many others .... he's amazing!

[@DrumeoOfficial]

Definitely recommend checking out more of his work!

[@timpricedrums]

If you’ve only just discovered SP, you’ve got some great stuff to get into. 45 years plus worth 👍🏻

[@CaptainSpyware]

Check out Toto's Live in Yokohama (1999, on KZbin) and the Falling in Between Live & 35th Anniversary DVDs! You are in for a real treat!

[@pearlguy6351]

Excellent video Drumeo Simmon one of the greats great execution and lesson

[@DrumeoOfficial]

Thank you!

[@stevenmorley7774]

Still going and trully a master and wonderful musician/drummer

[@fabrizioroggeri7710]

Un colosso ,musicista di livello top

[@ethanpenney7295]

Those drums sound so so good

[@mktrill]

I don't know if I'm more impressed with the time signature or the ghost notes on "Dave's Gone skiing"

[@handyboen]

The great Simon Philips 😁👍👍👍

[@itsmedrooms6071]

I came up with new ways to approach odd time just listening to some of the stuff he did on Townsend’s solo albums. He’s definitely an influence.

[@AvStevieStevenJamesDrums]

Simon is truly a bad ass!!!

[@menzerroku4708]

Great video!! Always important to be a drummer that can play good timing😊

[@ronosful]

VERY GOOD and essential analysis!!!

[@peternorthe1912]

I've been a fan of Simon's work for years now and always enjoy his precision, speed and smoothness in playing. I like the rock fusion music but am a much bigger fan of prog rock. My dream band would be one with Rick Wakeman on anything with keys, Steve Hackett on anything with strings, Alex. Lifeson on anything with strings that requires electricity, Geddy Lee on anything with thick strings and beefy pickups, Ray Cooper on anything...percussion, I haven't figured out who would be a suitable vocalist for such a band (Peter Gabriel?) and would like to hear suggestions (but they better be good!), and of course, Simon on anything that's cylindrical, hollow and has at least one head (even though he typically plays on one-head drums) and needs sticks. Bill Bruford can join in with the fancy electronic stuff.

[@boarhog1979]

He has an incredible single and double stroke roll

[@spacechangerfreq328]

deliceous and tastefull! Greez from Germany

[@analogkid4557]

Simon is the best.

[@mojobag01]

I was lucky enough to see Simon play with John Entwistle - just wanted to say thanks.

[@pdxfunk]

Cool lesson that was great! Billy Cobham has soom good examples how you can really groove in 19 as well! It's not as tricky as it seems when you just break it down ..like Simon says it's like 2 bars of 4/4 with an extra 3 16ths on the end!

[@dieseldust27]

Those tom rolls are a treat to watch.

[@filheim]

Simon's drumming on Toto's Tambu is quintessential stuff

[@geralddrums]

Very cool lesson!!! :-) Greatings Gerald

[@atomaalatonal]

great rythm master. the ultiamte mastership of rythms are from indía, like carnatic i nthe south and north india schools. tehy have a comapssion for mathematics and even developed a VERY effective school of learnign these crazy rythms, called konnakol. any musician or isntrumentalist who wants to compete in india needs to learn this, otherwise he will hardly ever be able compete in the complexity of indias music, which btw implements all western influences like nothing. the olymp of rythms and open tunings is to be found there.

[@ryancox5097]

So many legends on this channel; when are we gunna we see Vinnie?!

[@tomasviane3844]

Clean playing! Has a bit of a 'Weather Report' feel to it.

[@DeuceSimmonsOfficial]

What a cool Dude! The Music reminds me a Lot of Return to Forever with Stanley Clark. I love that kind of Music.

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Cheers!

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@@DrumeoOfficial Cheers

[@dedexyz8475]

Simon is one of those rare talents who can play it all.

[@simonlamphee9905]

Fabulous drummer incitefull knowledgeable

[@scottmorosky4983]

I mean Truly...what can you say??? Matched grip- Right handed set up but using his left hand as his dominant- Double bass drums not a double pedal- I remember him from recording with Pete Townsend back in 1980! 😳 Just a beast and a math genius as well...lol

[@richardfinney3179]

Very hot signatures I love this it's what I liked about Frank Zappa n John McLaughlin/ Billy Cobham, weather report just mind blowing stuff

[@Rondo2ooo]

Phil Collins was great at grooving and simplifying complex odd signatures.