How to assess and treat the sternoclavicular joint (SCJ) using METs

[@wanderantonio206]

If you see this, Thank you! Unbelievably effective.

[@MrBlunt32]

I've had right shoudler pain for 2 years. This subclavicular joint is finally doing the trixk

[@JohnGibbons]

Thanks for the message and comments, regards JG

[@boscoblack]

Very clear and helpful, as always.

[@JohnGibbons]

Thanks for the comments, regards JG

[@johnmar1622]

Thanks for that Doctor. I have pulled the muscle right side near sterno joint or strained. It does not inflame, but feel pain when doing dips and iron cross but really I can not do any dips, because it hurts. I can move all angles with no pain but at base of joint hurts when do dips or strain. So how long do you think my rh sterno muscle will recover? by resting and massage gun. Thanks

[@yunusemreparlak36]

doctor raises my right sternoclavicular arm and comes forward but I didn't get hit there is no pain but it comes out mild is his head normal (female) the doctor raises my right sternoclavicular arm, it comes to the fore, but I did not receive a blow, there is no pain, but it is light, is his head normal?

[@hayhas2561]

I have an inferior SC case , actually the right SC edge is disappeared cos of lifting high weight , I appreciate any help

[@JohnGibbons]

Tricky to comment without seeing you, if it bothers you a lot and causes a lot of pain then try and see someone like me where you live. Regards JG

[@gentkamberi8533]

John Gibbons Hi John . I’ve an anterior dislocation and don’t want to go for surgery . Can I come to see you ? Thanks . Genti

[@md.mosibulhoque5019]

Please give related video more sterno clerical joint manual feet with exercise

[@MrCarrot...]

Is there any self adjustment technique that would help on that ?

[@JohnGibbons]

Not really as a difficult area to self treat, regards jG

[@cyndwichful]

Thank you soooooo much😘 God bless U always!😚

[@JohnGibbons]

You're welcome 😊

[@NotoriousReviews23]

I feel like hard bones and tendons around where I say sc join is. Hurt my shoulder months ago. What are rhese bones and tendons that hurt when i press on them? Located front right of neck right above collar bone

[@rishisharma-dz6fx]

i have sc joint subluxation when i raise my arm my calvicle bone comes out i had been 4 yrs what to do please help.

[@JohnGibbons]

Hard to say without looking at you, see a therapist where you live as sure they can help. regards JG

[@Username-bf7qf]

i don’t have any pain or anything but is it normal for one of them joints to be a tiny bit larger bump than the other? thanks

[@JohnGibbons]

It is normal so dont worry about it, regards JG

[@sualehasiddiqui3981]

Ultrasound says little fluid on sternoclavicular clavicular joint my ortho has advised me rest but the bump is still there after a month though I have rested for couple of days

[@JohnGibbons]

Sometimes the 'bump' over the SC can stay a while - doesn't normally cause to much pain though, regards JG

[@PlatSoul]

Protracting my left shoulder causes my left SC to posteriorly dislocate. It cracks while going and returning from protraction. Neutral position it also appears to be lower than the right one. Any non surgical treatment to solve it? I really didn't mean to bother you but I searched the web the whole night and found nothing. Thanks for your attention

[@EmreY25]

Holy hell. I've been having pain for one year now at the area you were mentioning right at the shoulder, so not the sc joint itself. Can't benchpress anymore. But I've also been having pain at my sc joint for 2 months or so. Not a crazy pain, but a slight pain. Also it cracks when protracting like the girl did in the video. Do these movements fix the problem?

[@JohnGibbons]

Emre Y it’s easier to get someone like me to assess and then treat as can help but it depends on exactly what is causing the problem as it could be the shoulder itself especially on bench press. Hope that helps, regards JG 😊

[@rezpluto899]

Same bro I can’t bench anymore and like mines sticking out so much that I’m like almost blacking out randomly

[@iwishuthebest8460]

It is hard to fix this problem?I think i've done wrong pushups and i want to know if i can fix it myself

[@rmiguelcruz]

@@rezpluto899 you have a fix? dealing with it rn

[@GeXExtremist]

Please help, I have a clicking/crunching noise when I shrug my shoulders up and down in right ac joint/ collar bone area, no pain and no mobility issues but my ac joint is also more prominent on my right side, this happened after I fell onto my arm never clicked before this

[@JohnGibbons]

I would see an osteopath where you live as sure they can help, regards JG

[@Kevin-bb8ht]

Can the left sternoclavicular joint cause problems to heart if injured?

[@JohnGibbons]

Shouldn't do unless truly displaced and affects the subclavian artery, regards JG

[@iamwhatiam5269]

hello im kate from phillipines i have a sternoclavicular joint left dislocation how to cure . thanks

[@Drew99GT]

This can be used for a slight SC joint anterior dislocation?

[@JohnGibbons]

It can indeed, regards JG

[@thafza]

John I'm having some discomfort around my sterno-clavicular joint on my left side which I particularly notice when I'm shrugging/rolling my shoulders forward as there's significant grinding / clicking around the joint. I don't notice this as much or at all when shrugging my shoulders up but when shrugging/rolling my shoulders forward there's definitely something not right going on and from watching your video it sounds like the proximal end of the clavicle should move posteriorly in the body or back the way into the body but doesn't do this for me and maybe this is what is happening on my left side. I also feel like I can't raise my left arm as high as my right, so perhaps there's an inspirated / sub-luxed first rib too contributing to this, causing this, or a result of this. I've also experienced symtoms of thoracic outlet syndrome and my left shoulder clicks and grinds, both of which I feel are downstream issues from this dysfunction I've got around either the first rib or sterno-clavicular joint. Do you offer treatment? I'm based in Scotland and all osteopaths / chiropractors I've seen up here either don't know these techniques or aren't at your level. I'm convinced you can save me.

[@JohnGibbons]

I am based in Oxford so a long way from Scotland and currently dont see many patients any more as not much time as to busy lecturing and writing etc...If I were to see you then I would expect to see you a few times over a few weeks as one session is unrealistic. I am sure there are many therapists in Scotland that I have taught that can help...regards JG

[@thafza]

@@JohnGibbons thanks for replying John much appreciated, dont suppose you would recommend or have the details of anyone you've taught up here in Scotland that I could reach out to? Thanks again! If you'd rather not post their details publically my e-mail address is [e-mail]

[@HaroldSeaman]

Do you do any treatments/business near Lincolnshire way out , I have had very painful left scapula, clavicle, neck issues for 6 years now, I would like to see you regarding this if possible? Thanks

[@JohnGibbons]

No as near Oxford, regards jG

[@barryvanveen830]

Finally a video thats comparable to my situation, its on both of my shoulders, i had fysio in the Hospital ( didnt like my doctor), but not this kind, but more like light benchpress, pushups and those kind of things. the pain is already lasting 2 years and cracks like hell., and next month i go to the next hospital for a second opinion. i had an injection in the bones in de AC joint but i didnt help and closed the file because they didnt know either and didnt want to do an operation and told me i had to live with it and wished me luck. i was devistated. My SC joints go forward if i put my arms up en click back in when i put them down. and both my shoulders are realy painfull ( like making up my bed is already real painfull), can i get completly rid of it with a good Fysiotherapist or make it less painfull ? and do you maybe got any tips for me ? sorry for bad english, and greeting from the Netherlands. Thx for the video =)

[@JohnGibbons]

Thanks for the message and tricky to comment without looking at you, try and see someone like me if you can as sure they can help. Good luck, regards JG

[@romes3217]

I’ve had this clunking & popping noise that’s very uncomfortable in my left SC joint. This had lead to a lot of numbness / pins and needles on my left arm down to my thumb. This lasts for 5-10 seconds and seems to be getting less constant but at one point was every minute. Do you think the SC joint could be pinching the brachial Nerve ?

[@romes3217]

Most likely a Jiu jitsu injury I should have mentioned

[@ciankai]

I have a subluxation, I think anterior. GP has referred me to physiotherapy but the waiting list is quite long currently because of covid. Theres a private Osteopathy place nearby. Do you think that's a viable option? Thanks for the video.

[@JohnGibbons]

Try an osteopath as might be able to help, regards JG

[@gentkamberi8533]

I have an anterior dislocation . Clavicle looks bumpy and I can’t use the arm well . I need to be see by you jon Gibbson

[@chrisWTG]

Did you end up going? Did he adjust it to the right position?? I’m new to this and weary on going? I have an AC joint dislocation, it needs to be adjusted

[@gentkamberi8533]

@@chrisWTG no I didn’t go mate . Not much he could to in my case . I let it heal and went to Phisio

[@chrisWTG]

@@gentkamberi8533 did it heal in proper position?, used any KT tape?

[@adityapunetha3738]

Sir I seem to have a clavicle subluxation, and have a slight bump on my left shoulder with absolutely no pain . I have taken rest for 20 days now , can I continue with gym ?

[@JohnGibbons]

If no pain then I would try and carry on as normal, regards JG

[@adityapunetha3738]

@@JohnGibbons thank u sir , any particular exercise that I should avoid that could cause a risk to further dislocation ?

[@avichalpareek2315]

Hey brother! I too had my SC joint sublaxed some 3 weeks ago. No pain. How are you doing now? Would love to hear about your progress and what helped :)

[@adityapunetha3738]

@@avichalpareek2315 hi there , I’m happy to say that all is well with me . As I mentioned about the bump earlier , I had no pain at all and wasn’t even sure whether I had it from before or I injured myself , so I decided to continue training , now It’s been months into lifting and not a single problem ever came up . So yeah all went good . So yeah, Pretty relaxed now 😁 Don’t worry much just take some rest and then you’ll be good to go ! 😇

[@ashishranjan233]

Hey aditya, i have had the same problem for a week, when i lift my arm or rotate it, my sc joint pops out, absolutely no pain, no swelling, I don't know what to do

[@poristimaki8475]

Could you see that this mobilization/ MET would help to TOS?

[@JohnGibbons]

Of course, regards JG

[@SType8890]

Interesting. When I go to a doorway and I use both arms to hold onto each side, and I go forward, the top of my sternum hurts along with the sides of my top chest going to the both shoulders. Also, the bottom of my chest pops now when i push on it when I feel like it wants to pop. I’m only 24. Should I be concerned?

[@JohnGibbons]

Thanks for the message and comments and i personally wouldn't worry about it and that stretch motion you are doing - i would stop doing it for a month and see how you feel after that. regards JG

[@eslamzidan9766]

Would this apply to the AC joint or not ?

[@drtekchandsharma]

Hlllo ....when we see the ac joint ...what is movement of clavicle in lateral end during scapula protraction .. Is it opposite to medial end of clavicle

[@JohnGibbons]

Yes, in a simplistic way you can say that for the motion of 'protraction' because the distal end (ACJ) will be going in a forward anterior direction as the proximal end (SCJ) will be going in a backward posterior direction. Hope that helps, regards JG

[@drtekchandsharma]

@@JohnGibbons ...plz make a vedio on release of ac joint

[@JohnGibbons]

Tekchand Sharma one day I will but not yet...regards JG

[@lovebts-iz6jj]

Hii I think I dislocated my collarbone .. Its been more then 2 months now and I carried a heavy bag ..I didn't feel pain the 1st day but later I felt a bump where my collarbone meets my sternum I thought it was costocondrities yet a doctor told me maybe I dislocated my collarbone even that wasn't visible in an Xray she said it can be minor but hurts a lot Can the pain go alone with time ?

[@JohnGibbons]

Thanks for the comment and the pain will probably settle = you might have slightly sublimed the SC joint as costochondritis is somewhere else and rib related, regards JG

[@lovebts-iz6jj]

@@JohnGibbons will I have pain forever ??????????????

[@Letshelptogether77]

Hii sir actually i am having this same problem in sc join i feel like some muscle pops on my right sc joint and it happened to me 3 months ago bcz i bowl in cricket after a long time but my xrays are normal so can u help me out little more plzz thnxx

[@JohnGibbons]

Cant really help unless i see you at my clinic in Oxford, regards jG

[@Letshelptogether77]

@@JohnGibbons actually sir i am in canada I can’t come to you . My family doctor said that my X-ray is normal but i have problem in my clavicle so can u tell me which test should i go through can u plz tell me sir thnxx

[@bhoopendrasharma7045]

Same prblm in right sterenoclavicle joint plz help me

[@JohnGibbons]

Hard to comment over a text - see a therapist near you as sure they can help, regards JG

[@rosettabyler3383]

Would this technique help a subluxating SC joint?

[@JohnGibbons]

This would help realign the SC joint, however it depends on how stable the ligaments are as it could sub lux again, unfortunately, but still worth a try! Regards JG

[@howiseeit5326]

@@JohnGibbons what if there was a brace to hold it in place until the ligaments change again?

[@therealmisunderstood]

I’m 15 and when I lift my arm it pops out painless

[@JohnGibbons]

Hopefully the joint pops back in...regards JG

[@ZebraGirl97]

I would suggest you look in to hypermobility disorders, particularly genetic causes of hypermobility like Ehlers Danlos Syndrome. Frequent, often less painful dislocations are common.

[@therealmisunderstood]

Claire Jeske thank you I was told to get checked for EDS and they told me I was definitely hypermobility almost every joint in my body can stretch in weird painless ways

[@gauravkhurana7491]

Sir i have to same time problem with pleas for Help me

[@JohnGibbons]

Try and see someone where you live as sure they can help, regards JG

[@emiliahara5000]

could you do any videos about testing shoulder especially for subluxation please

[@JohnGibbons]

Thanks and yes in future perhaps...Regards JG

[@McFourSeasonsDiscovery]

Hello, Doc! I had a history my parents knew that when I was toddler, they said I got fever that doesn't go. Father thinks, I am anytime would die because I don't eat, and he only feeds me with milk through a dropper. Until I was brought to a local "hilot" doctor, but they said he must be a chiropractor and the hilot said that I was unwell because my thoracic cage is not balanced. They said he placed my body against his chest and somewhat moved something in my thoracic area and they heard popping sounds. My father said, I profusely sweat after that and seems closer to recovery as I began standing again on my trembling feet. Now I am 36 and only thing I notice is I have popping sounds at my right shoulder. My right clavicle and my right scapula create clicking when I move my shoulder up, or when I retract it. When I got my back massaged, the masseuse tells me that my right shoulder blade seems to be stiff when she moves it as if there are resistance. Fortunately, I am not feeling anything painful, only that I hear clicking sounds as always. My right clavicle also anteriorly forwared than the left. Is there something that I still need to do with my right shoulder like have it examined by chiropractor for possible joint realignment or just let it be? Thanks Doc!

[@JohnGibbons]

Hi, if its not painful then personally wouldn't worry about it and all of us will have some clicks coming from somewhere, if it does bother you then see what the chiropractor says or osteopath, regards JG

[@gentkamberi8533]

I have an anterior clavicle dislocation. Does anyone have a good contact to push it back in place without surgery? Can’t see Jon Gibson’s contact for therapy here . Thanks a lot 🙏

[@angelaallen2190]

I have that same issue. The SC joint sticks out. My chiropractor is going to try and push it back into its place tomorrow. I was involved in a rollover accident 6 weeks ago.

[@gentkamberi8533]

Angela Allen I hope it works . I might have to try chiropractor too . Could be using yours if he’s real good :)

[@angelaallen2190]

Hi Gent. He decided not to try pushing the joint back in, we are going to give it more time. He doesn't think it's out all of the way, so I'm putting ice on it to reduce the swelling around the joint. I hope that you can find a good chiropractor near you. Let me know what happens with yours. Thanks!

[@gentkamberi8533]

Angela Allen Hi Angela . I’ll be seeing fractures specialist on Tuesday. On the phone they told me they don’t operate on anterior dislocation but they will Have a look at me , but most likely they just going to hand to the Phisio for some range exercises . So far I’m not happy with suggestions as I’m on fourth week of recovery and sweeping hasn’t gone down .

[@angelaallen2190]

@@gentkamberi8533Hi Gent. I hope that your doctor visit goes well. Do you also feel popping behind the sc joint when you raise your arm a certain way?

[@NaveenKumar-mj6iw]

I hv clavicle joints dislocation . my 27 years old

[@JohnGibbons]

See a therapist like me where you live, regards JG

[@latham40]

I'm in so much pain I hope this helps

[@JohnGibbons]

Worth a try, regards JG

[@PUBG-hs3lo]

Sir can the joint pop back in

[@JohnGibbons]

Hi, if the SC joint only slightly sub luxated then it can go back into its natural resting position, regards JG

[@PUBG-hs3lo]

@@JohnGibbons sir can i continue my gym please reply

[@PUBG-hs3lo]

@@JohnGibbons i hear popping sometimes no pain i left gym cuz of this i am 15

[@krazyopylive]

@@PUBG-hs3lo what are updates ...is it ok now ??

[@angelrivera3796]

When i swing my arm like in right hook type of way it makes alot of cracking/popping noise from the sternum and colar bone area it does not hurt at the moment but during a work out the noise becomes annoying it only happens when i do the right hook motion or sometimes push-ups

[@JohnGibbons]

If it doesn't not hurt then I wouldn't worry to much about it as a lot of peoples SC joint clicks on movements of the arms, regards JG

[@vyyxowna]

Quais alimentos ou suplementos ajudam os ligamentos?

[@JohnGibbons]

Thanks for message even though i got no idea what you said...regards JG

[@iwishuthebest8460]

Can i fix it myself?I mean,alone

[@JohnGibbons]

It will probably be a difficult to fix on your own, regards JG

[@iwishuthebest8460]

@@JohnGibbons So,if i will try to fix it myself,i will need to press or push one finger on the bone until i fix the problem,right?

[@JohnGibbons]

You can try that and see if it helps, good luck, regards JG

[@MaArleneJavier]

O my right sternoclavicular bones are protruding i in so bad shape

[@NaveenKumar-mj6iw]

Suggest me

[@JohnGibbons]

Thanks for the message, regards JG

[@michelepiteo7179]

Dunno..one sterno-clavical is as flat a pencil .The other sticks out like a chicken leg at my throat. It is as big as a chicken leg. I never noticed until i tried weights and noticed in the mirror. No pain and no shortage of range of motion..WTF I suppose it clicks when arm raised &rotated at a certain angle but this is easy to avoid.The mystery is why its painless. I bet its early arthritis

[@JohnGibbons]

Hi, if the SC joint is not painful i would try and forget about it and its rare for this joint to give you early arthritis...good luck and regards JG

[@michelepiteo7179]

JohnGibbons+ wow thank you. So not a sign of early arthritis, huh? I am still curious and going for a referral in order mine for what causes it. .

[@SgheGejsj]

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