How to Avoid a Civil War | Glenn Loury & John Wood Jr. | The Glenn Show

[@unitingamericawithjohnwoodjr]

Honored as ever to appear with the great Glenn Loury.

[@BeanMacdui]

Thank you John for the work you and Braver Angels are doing. This is the first time I have heard about you and your organization. I feel you’re speaking my truth and I hope the truth of many others. My favorite part is when you brought up marriage counseling as almost a model for communication. I have echoed a similar sentiment whenever politics are discussed, I only received confused looks and just observed after that! lol. I wish there were more people from different backgrounds and ages involved. It’s such an important message. 😊

[@EvanWhitney-yk5ds]

I am always impressed by the guests Dr. Loury has. No echo chamber b.s. , just content based on the dichotomy of the the dynamics of the diaspora..

[@BeanMacdui]

@@EvanWhitney-yk5dsI totally agree, well put!

[@kengardner775]

Glenn's command of the English language is a joy to listen to, and a gift to us all.

[@Gnofg]

my friend writes screenplays. Loury is not in his league.

[@TerryStewart32]

Christopher Hitchens has one of the most breathtaking command of the English language

[@BeanMacdui]

Glenn, Gnofg’s friend and Hitchens, all have an incredible gifts of communication and language. 😊

[@Gnofg]

@@BeanMacdui you should see how someone who writes screenplays uses language.

[@BeanMacdui]

@@GnofgI imagine they are incredibly hard to do. Maybe even more so when adapting a book to a screenplay. Trying to find the most eloquent and engaging words and composition to connect with the audience so that they are emotionally invested. Yes, that is a true and unique talent!

[@deladonics]

I love John. He always makes me feel ashamed when I'm caught up trash talking on Twitter about the outrage of the day, and he comes through my feed with a compassionate take about how we could all be better

[@RobertGeilfuss-z9h]

John is amazing-very impressive young man with great leadership skills and exciting potential.

[@michaelhiggins2562]

Glenn, thanks for introducing me to John!!!

[@richbirecki]

Impressed with how eloquent John is. Heard him speak before, like him

[@hope-cat4894]

Too many people like to say that they want a Civil War, but then throw a fit if their chicken nuggets are too cold. Think about how much our lives would be uprooted during a war. We couldn't even handle not having toilet paper during the pandemic! We need cooler heads speaking to the people instead of extremists and grifters. Glad to have people like you, Glenn.

[@Gnofg]

which philosophy threatens people with their guns?

[@jcortese3300]

I always recommend that people get familiar with the history of the British Isles. They've been through everything -- and between becoming a failed state in 410AD and about 1860, they had NO sewage system. Yet people that wax lyrical about "the revolution" seem to think the wifi will go down for maybe 20 minutes, max. :-/

[@wokeisweak]

​@Gnofg the Presidential philosophy. Biden and Trump would both kill both sides of the hypothetical Civil War. Biden would squash the leftist revolutionaries just as much as he would the right wing rebels. Same goes for Trump. The politicians hyping up conflict amongst their bases are not extremists. They are centrist liberal capitalists all of them. They mobilize extremists in their bases for opportunistic reasons. Their idealistic foot soldiers would be betrayed as soon as they started on their behalf. These politicians are happy to see poor people killed each other to enrich themselves. Hence our foreign policy.

[@scottmitchell1974]

@@Gnofg Defend does not remotely equal threaten. The guns are a defense AGAINST the threat from the other philosophy.

[@zerofox2030]

@@Gnofg The progressive left. They don't give you flowers when they put you up against the wall.

[@geraldpalmer1027]

In this viewer's eyes perhaps the most important interview ever on The Glenn Show. Wood is a political social worker skilled in CBT, MI, SFT and to top it off, philosophical critical thinking. This oeuvre, healing the country's soul could not be more important. Our discourse has reached the lowest form of doggerel and Wood teaches us we must be Stoic and employ patience-- with each other. And listen. The references in your conversation to Dr. King were especially moving. Thank you Professor Lowry. Thank you Mr. Wood.

[@rogerhaynes6046]

Well said! Humanity/goodwill, etc. is on life support 😢

[@BeanMacdui]

Wonderful message! I agree wholeheartedly!

[@rogerhaynes6046]

This was such a good episode, thank you Gentlemen!!❤

[@RhettStraube]

Enjoying the sound effects!! Glad you are doing well Mr. Loury.)

[@jdankerdake]

This guest’s communication is opaque. So many words spoken, yet I don’t know what exactly what Braver Angels does. Makes me appreciate McWhorter’s accessible, vivid, and at times delightful use of language.

[@thierryf2789]

It’s a miracle Glenn did not fall asleep during the interview.

[@rikbas71]

Another great conversation Mr. Loury, thank you.

[@wokeisweak]

It only takes 1% of crazies to drag us all into a war.

[@CHRISSORAFINE]

I fought for nothing in foreign lands… To protect my country from an inside threat, almost nothing I wouldn’t do …

[@BeanMacdui]

I hope I am reading this correctly, when I say, thank you for your service. 🙏🏻❤

[@gramingo6402]

Glenn is one handsome & brilliant man!

[@ColonelTux]

It was striking to me that as Glenn pressed on how we can depolarize our politics, John ultimately appealed to Dr. King's teaching on love. Dr. King, of course, was simply appealing to the message of Christ. Many believe that by rejecting Christianity we have been liberated, but we have actually cut ourselves loose from the moral foundation that was essential for civil government. As John Adams said, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." The cornerstone of that moral foundation is love: desiring the highest good for the other person, and acting on it.

[@diegotomasarene-morley7249]

Thank you Professor Loury! We can never choose violence. It’s a personal choice too. Thank you

[@BeanMacdui]

That is certainly true in almost all cases. 😊

[@SkyKings24-e4i]

It’s better to be safe than sorry.

[@johnmcguire9831]

IRL I hear almost no one discussing "civil war' - most people are just doing there thing

[@2013lovemy]

We have politicians publicly threatening a certain outcome if “Trump doesn’t become president”…

[@michaelo.1320]

Good to see the human thesaurus make an appearance

[@matthewg5792]

The comment section is baffling. Braver Angels is trying to educate people about how to talk to others they don't agree with, trying to calm tensions, and lots of people in the comments are talking about the organization like it's worthless. I feel compelled to say that I greatly appreciate John Wood Jr.'s efforts and hope Braver Angels achieves its goal of bringing Americans together.

[@BeanMacdui]

I was feeling a bit confused by some of the comments as well. It’s not an easy thing to do, to be able to hold two truths side by side, without one invalidating the other.

[@zerofox2030]

You can't talk your way out of fundamental differences. You either fight or separate.

[@BeanMacdui]

@@zerofox2030Or cooperate

[@matthewg5792]

@@zerofox2030 I regularly interact with people who have different foundational ideas/fundamental beliefs and see other people do it quite a bit. People that do not make an effort to coexist do indeed fight and/or separate though.

[@zerofox2030]

@@matthewg5792 Those beliefs aren't fundamental differences or aren't strong beliefs/ fake.

[@malcolmpalm]

I like it. All of it

[@sirkle1]

I joined Braver Angels when I saw them online. I haven't been able to attend any of their functions. Sadly, to hear this young man speak, he reminds me of Michael Eric Dyson, throwing around a lot of words without saying anything.

[@superturkle]

same here

[@epictetus4]

Dr. Loury: Long time, first time. Keep up the excellent work. However, one recommendation: Please change the new editing you recently started; the constant shifts forward and the whooshing sounds for pictures are both very annoying. It's okay to have pauses in your discussions! Long-form interviews is what we all sign up for. :)

[@SkyKings24-e4i]

I cannot remember the speech King was going to say that night. It’s right on the money?!

[@steve6056]

There is good and bad. There are people that are bad. Agreeing or disagreeing has nothing to do with it. Those that value "the self" over all are beyond help. It is the unforgivable sin.

[@Mark-hc8ek]

If there was no such thing as political parties and only people with certain behavior traits, there would never be a civil war only shunning. And quite frankly, nearly every politician on earth would be ignored.

[@SkyKings24-e4i]

It’s about power and who has it? They do!?

[@JamesTrott-s4r]

Had Better Angles been there before the American Revolution, might they have prevented it?

[@charlescaputo778]

Serious progressive here but conservatives are winning us on race and personal responsibility. We need to rethink those issues and teach our children correctly. BTW children should be seen and not heard on important issues. Adults need to take control just like the conservatives do it

[@Gnofg]

How are they winning on race?

[@bobrown582]

@@Gnofgprogressives are blatantly racist towards white people. It’s mean spirited and unfair. Worst of all, they push racially divisive ideas onto young children

[@jcortese3300]

Race and sex as well -- the progressives pat themselves on the back for believing in science but forget that biology is also a science. It's crazy out there on both sides.

[@wokeisweak]

​@@Gnofg conservatives are winning on race by revealing the idiocy of open borders and police scapegoating. Both of those issues are framed by liberals as racial issues. If you oppose open borders or support cops liberals call you a white supremacist. In america "racist" is the worst thing to call someone, so this hyperbolic language is very reckless. The conservative response to these accusations has avoided racialized language and has panned out to be closer to the truth than liberal squeals about racism. The crime wave resulting from a retreat from law and order has proven conservative claims correct. Liberals have been exposed as charlatans on the race issue, making up excuses for cultural degeneracy. I think the original poster admits that scapegoating others for your own weaknesses and that progressives should embrace more of a bootstrap outlook. As a progressive myself, I think personal responsibility would only make our side stronger and more effective in our fight against capitalism. Conservative cultural values are undoubtedly superior to liberal self-sabotage and conflict-inducing blame game.

[@danielallred4806]

Unfortunately, what has occurred in the global markets since August 1st is going to make preventing a civil war very difficult if things don’t change soon and due to poor decisions by American and European leaders, it is unlikely. Now is the time to start praying more than ever for the United States of America

[@marydiggins9294]

Does John ever get to the point? Who decides what is true?

[@BeanMacdui]

That is the point. He’s trying to get past black and white thinking. It’s not about who is right and who is wrong, it’s accepting that there can be more than one truth and finding ways forward from there. It’s not an easy thing to do.

[@marydiggins9294]

@@BeanMacdui He could have said that in one third the time. By the way, there is such a thing as absolute truth, and oftentimes the difference between right and wrong is clear as a bell.

[@BeanMacdui]

⁠@@marydiggins9294You are 💯 right on both accounts! And I struggle to see how to work it out if we don’t agree on foundational truths, unequivocal truths. Ones proven by science or historically factual ones, for example.

[@jaypainter3738]

Always enjoy John. Hard to watch braver angles as it has taken on more and more of a left bend and always “feels” very pc

[@AndrewDunn-lw2uu]

Lots and lots of buzzwords... Nothing of substance. It does follow a pattern....

[@deladonics]

It kind of has to because lefties are sensitive flowers. As long as we can get some policies agreed upon eventually it will be worth it. We just need to be aware of the policy goals we want to enact and gently push them forward

[@vw1359]

​@@AndrewDunn-lw2uu Thank you!!!! It was like John was rambling and not answering Glenn's questions directly nor concisely. He reminds me of the character on the TV show In Living Color.

[@BeanMacdui]

To be fair, I do understand what John’s concept is, it does seem a difficult thing to put into play. John seems more of an emotionally intelligent person and that is his strength, maybe there needs to be someone who can take these ideas and create an organized vehicle for them.

[@AndrewDunn-lw2uu]

This organization isn't going to move the needle one iota. It is not structured to solve any problems. It sounds as if this guy John Wood Jr does not even grasp what the problem actually is. Very disheartening, nobody is coming to the rescue folks, we're on our own.

[@matthewg5792]

Is your contribution to nay say and discourage a group that is trying to do something? Find somewhere to contribute positively.

[@deladonics]

It's a proof of concept that could take off if we could all realize that we outnumber the true believers on both sides, and that we could get some of these popular bipartisan policies implemented if we vote deliberately

[@AndrewDunn-lw2uu]

@@deladonics You fundamentally misunderstand what is happening in all of the West. There are two competing visions of the future. One side wants to "be unburdened by what has been" that's commie talk. They are talking about revolution, a complete change of our system to a "global" system. Individual nations will not exist, they may still on paper, and you might keep the trappings of "democracy" but you will have no power to make decisions about how you live. The other side believes in the Nation state, still. Citizen deciding for themselves how to live, and give people and environment to prosper even though some will still fall between the cracks. I'm not sure everyone actually understands what is at stake right now. If you look to Europe, they're going through a similar change that we are. Some secret, agreed upon deal where the west would take in the millions of immigrants from 3rd world countries and give them thousands of tax payer dollars. They're allowed to attack the host nations citizens and two tiered policing is being employed, anarcho-tyranny. Its a political decision our governments made. That's the choice right now. The commies job is to lie to you constantly about what they're doing until it doesn't matter if you know or not.

[@AndrewDunn-lw2uu]

@@matthewg5792 I'm not nay saying, I listened to what he said, he essentially said nothing of substance whatsoever. That's typically a pretty good indicator of how that organization is going to operate. They're going to ask for donations, and take your money... And they're not going to fix anything. There are many such organizations in existence, now there's one more.

[@matthewg5792]

@@AndrewDunn-lw2uu Wood Jr is far more calm than typical individual operating in social and political spaces, so it may be harder to hear him when he discusses what the organization is doing. Braver Angels members won't burn down buildings and they won't raid the capital, so if that or similar is action in your opinion, you're right, "nothing" is going to happen. Consider adjusting the idea of what it is move the needle. Rewatch this to hear the change they are affecting. 13:09 Teaching people how to interact civilly is a very powerful thing.

[@rogerhaynes6046]

Question for anyone with respect to the division or understanding others or even getting to a place to be able to speak. What do you think about this statement? We are all inoculated with partisanship and that immunizes us from goodwill as Americans. Thoughts from anyone?

[@Bronxguyanese]

I like braver angels. But it seems to do alot of listening and no action or suggestion to solve our divide. Nothing else to see here.

[@matthewg5792]

To listen is an action itself. People listening well, especially to those they disagree with, would go a long way to help with division.

[@BeanMacdui]

@@matthewg5792Very well put.

[@BeanMacdui]

Maybe the goal is to get away from black and white thinking, and to accept that there is no ‘solution ’, so to speak. It’s cooperation with earth other and finding the best way forward and being able to make concessions.

[@zerofox2030]

@@matthewg5792 Listening is how we got to the division. After so much talking and listening you now have knowledge of the fundamental differences between groups.

[@BeanMacdui]

I agree with Matt, it’s called active listening and it takes effort for sure!

[@andrepack]

Bob woodson obliterated the so-called activist Hank newsome in an interview / debate on the Braver Angels channel.

[@jbrooks75]

Dont want to sound cynical but sounds like a few 150k jobs at the top 45 weeks of fundraising, 7 weeks of not changing anybodies mind. Charities, few and are between are good.

[@karimalameddine5092]

This thought did come to my mind as I was listening! 🤲🙏🌸

[@SkyKings24-e4i]

Who will let it?

[@SkyKings24-e4i]

The system crashes!?

[@AlanCoffey]

Sorry Professor, I cannot watch you on KZbin any longer. I keep getting political ads ( Kamala). I've blocked them more than 15 times and reported that the block is not working. Now they will not let me block or report. Can't go on this way. I enjoyed your content for years

[@SkyKings24-e4i]

It’s the only way to survive?

[@JereKrischel]

Secession happened because of slavery, explicitly. But Lincoln's war of Northern Aggression started because he wanted to dominate the South. We are *lucky* abolitionists co-opted his war at the end, but the North did *not* invade the south to end slavery - they had 4 slave states that didn't free their slaves until 13th amendment. Lincoln was ready to make slavery irrevocable in order to preserve the Union. We're lucky the South didn't accept his offer.

[@dongrinolds140]

Why were Pelosi 's communications off limits around January 6th?

[@geoplaten337]

Too late, we passed the tipping point long ago, it’s inevitable.

[@matthewg5792]

Incorrect.

[@jdankerdake]

What is inevitable? When/what was the tipping point?

[@BeanMacdui]

I understand that things seem pretty dire. I’m here to say that it’s never too late!

[@SkyKings24-e4i]

The lone wolf’s…At first.

[@superturkle]

john wood jr has his script down, seems well prepared.... 9:04 where does your funding come from? scripted response, no interjection from glenn until 27:37 what are the main bipartisan issues about immigration, and its implications? 49:07 "youre right to mention that, but even in that sacrifice, it solidified the moral case that he was making in the, the spiritual terms that he was making, i believe" 49:25 well there you go, the end of liberalism actually this is a very valuable and informative interview. thank you glenn, your choice of guests is great, but your skill in interviewing isnt. this is one comment among thousands, but unless they are a reclusive guru please find ways to interrupt monologues when they go over 3 mins.

[@deladonics]

Glenn grilled him last time to the point that John got riled up and shot back. I think this time he was curious about what he's been up to see if it was working

[@shorrodmcclain8777]

​@deladonics I remember that exchange. One of the few times Wood Jr. injected some emotion in his words instead of sounding robotic 😂

[@superturkle]

@@shorrodmcclain8777 seems he went back to being a robot this time. am i wrong?

[@shorrodmcclain8777]

@@superturkle very much so. Made it very difficult to attention over time

[@SkyKings24-e4i]

It’s a mess?! Ron Reagan Governor, Come on in?! You don’t need no drivers license, you don’t need no passport, you don’t need no green card ! Just come on in!?

[@ginaj617]

Hate to say it, but…. Conservatives do not care who has college degrees on social issues…. Because it’s always skewed.

[@SkyKings24-e4i]

What would you need to make you leave your political party?!

[@SkyKings24-e4i]

To the title. Stay home…

[@barryb.3947]

May I ask did this channel recently delete a video on the coming white pushback!

[@streetpushtvtheagency6900]

IM ONLY 13 MINS WHERE THIS GUY IS SAYING A BUNCH OF NOTHING. HE REMINDS ME OF A NEW BUSINESS OWNER MAKING HIS COMPANY SOUND BIGGER THAN IT ACTUALLY IS. 😮

[@SkyKings24-e4i]

It’s every man for himself!? Blackman.

[@JamesTrott-s4r]

The Brits succeeded in ending slavery without a war -- but most of the Christian apologists were on the abolition side there -- in the US slave-holding theologians had come up with elaborate justifications.

[@bobrown582]

Abolitionists in the U.S. were largely very active Christians. John Brown was a Christian zealot

[@zerofox2030]

Christian apologists were also abolitionists in the US, the driving force against slavery.

[@BeanMacdui]

What point are you trying to make? I mean, yes, the British did lead the way in abolishing slavery, which is pretty incredible if you think about it. No other country or dynasty or empire or civilization, ever abolished slavery! Until Britain, that is. I think comparing Britain to the USA, well, to me, they are not comparable. So I’m not sure what you’re trying to drive at.

[@jdankerdake]

@@BeanMacduiI’m guessing the OP is providing a historical example of a fundamental difference in values and policy being resolved without violence.

[@BeanMacdui]

@@jdankerdakeThank you for your insight! After reframing from your response, I am now able to understand. Sometimes things don’t click. Take care and have a great day 😊

[@SkyKings24-e4i]

Get your plane ticket?! Hahahaha?

[@jason666king]

A word salad delivered by a dude with a thesaurus saying absolutely nothing. Worst guest ever, Dr. Loury.

[@glennmitchell9107]

Only the ignorant (and Tim Pool) discuss a current civil war in the United States non-metaphorically. Who is our modern John Brown? Who is our modern Robert E. Lee?

[@victormelendez1074]

Why doesn't Glenn ever have a conversation with Ruth Ben-Ghiat or Tim Snyder or other historians to explain why Trump is displaying all of the attributes and hallmarks of a wannabe despot. He carries trump's water inexplicably....

[@rogerpenske2411]

What is this poppycock that you suddenly have this divided electric? When is the electric not been seriously divided? From the time of loyalists versus independence, to the slavery question, to remaining out of world, wars, one and two, to prohibition, to the hippie generation, and of course, now.

[@QTEPYE]

In regards to illegal immigration to the USA, Vice President Kamala Harris' job was to address the root causes of migration from the Central American countries of Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador.

[@streetpushtvtheagency6900]

JOHNS ORGANISATION IS LIKE BRINGING A SPEECH TO A GUN FIGHT…🥹 RIP MLK

[@jeffpurvis2867]

Good job Glenn, but I am not listening to your guest any longer.