Who Speaks for Black America? | Glenn Loury, John McWhorter & Ian Rowe | The Glenn Show

[@kenalsman7374]

I am an 82 year old white guy who never considered himself at all racist, but have become, i think, more so in the past couple of years given the actions, “leadership” of black groups and the Democratic Party - we must all be going crazy. Listening to you, your show, its direction and guests is bringing back my former sense of balance. Thank you

[@mjwp8750]

Very nicely said Sir. Thank you. God Bless 🙏🏾

[@axMf3qTI]

Oh so you was around before MLK was white-washed. Back when he was militant, a socialist and alive.

[@ambercarter9746]

I’m not black I’m not white but I agree hole heartedly

[@kimj5037]

I've watched a few interviews with Ian. His leadership is inspiring. I love his sentiment, "It's not about the family you came from. It's about the family you want to build".

[@michaelweber5702]

Here here ! Good work Ian ... "It's about the family you want to build"

[@samright4661]

Brilliant Man

[@johnluciano6814]

Absolutely in agreement.

[@Steril707]

That is an amazing sentence..

[@Survivor-i9h]

Perfectly said @kim5037. We have choices. I'll use my dad as an example, and I did this many times to state this point. My father was a racist, women beating, rapist that was an alcoholic. Now me, raped four times by him, and two other men. He wasn't the first rapist. That man was Mexican, that was my first rapist. My father was full blown Italian, and my mom is English, Hungarian, and three part Irish on her fathers side, which was also like my dad. Her mom, my wonderful grandma, who God rest her soul. That women was an angle. Her parents was full blood Romanian. Here we are just white. Now I decided that toxic environment wasn't for me. I was also a victim like them of domestic violence, but I don't see me as a victim. I see me as a survivor of a toxic upbringing unfortunately, but I got educated and I want better for myself. So I don't drink, and I don't abuse anyone or anything. I am on the other side, a real deal blue blood city white cops cousin. He and I are allot alike the cops said. We was raised around racism, but decided that's not for us to be.

[@nickrenshaw4733]

As a white man from Australia. I find it so refreshing to see three well educated black men having an open debate of differing opinions with civility. White people such as myself could learn a lot from these great men. Must watch content.

[@rayschnettgoecke6776]

Deer found in a lady’s home

[@matthewg5792]

I wish this channel had more reach so people gained more exposure to sound reasoning. Glenn and John, and now Ian, give me hope that logic and discourse are not dead.

[@greatvalleyone]

The fact that this channel has less than 50k subs is proof that KZbin crushes certain content, I never get notifications for this channel even though I select it.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

They are conmen and pretty evil.

[@ckhawk00]

@@AndyMann-vs3sf a hell of a statement with out providing proof or at least examples.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

@@ckhawk00 Thx 🙏🏿 but you just need to look at their output. They are ludicrous.

[@judyhawley7924]

Good men and they should be listen to and be leaders of America.

[@CMatthewHawkins]

Loury, Rowe, and McWhorter once again bring the most substantive discussions of these complicated issues. Their contribution to our thought and analysis of black American thought, politics, and public policy is indispensable. It is a privilege to be able to listen to their conversations. The effect of these conversations will be much greater than any of the three can imagine. What I admire about John McWhorter is he is unwilling to demonize his opponents, rather, he tries to understand them. He is not trying to be self-righteous; he is trying to get it right. McWhorter is relentlessly intellectually honest.

[@ty5020]

your comment excellently describes how ive felt about these guys for while. when the nation falls these are the men i pray we can look to and pick up the pieces

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

McWhorter is unwilling to WHAAAT??!!

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

​@@ty5020 XD XD🦄

[@twodogs3868]

​@@AndyMann-vs3sf McWhorter is unwilling to, "demonize his opponents". To this comment, I vehemently agree. He certainly will call a spade a spade. What he doesn't do is level ad hominem attacks against those to which he disagrees. This is especially admirable considering the vitriol being spewed toward him from his own race.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

@@twodogs3868 His own race is the human race. This is where you both fail. You seemed to have missed Johnboy's behavior towards Ibram X Kendi amongst others. These bastards have got you trained. McWhorter has ascribed satanic values to Kendi as, according to him, racism ended in 1985! Because he does this in a reasonable type voice you feel that it doesn't count 🙊

[@theodorenkwenti721]

Man oh man, please invite Ian often. What a breath of fresh air!

[@mustlearnmore4884]

I'd never heard of Ian Rowe before, but I'm grateful to Glenn and John for introducing him to me in this video. I'll be grabbing a copy of 'Agency', and I'll be following Ian's work going forward. Thank you all, and God bless 🙏🏽🔥💪🏽

[@jeffreyrothe1760]

Check out his book titled, "Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make it Harder for Blacks to Succeed."

[@mustlearnmore4884]

@@jeffreyrothe1760 Thank you for the suggestion, but isn't that by John Riley?

[@SycrosD4]

@@jeffreyrothe1760 Jason L. Riley wrote that, Not Ian Rowe

[@TubeDude78]

Such a great conversation. I think the obvious answer to "Who are the Black leaders of this generation?" is staring us right in the face.

[@shannonswift2233]

Who do you think? I would wager Al Sharpton (whom I met randomly at Times Sq in 2021) is the standard bearer but Patrisse Cullors is the de facto leader, albeit Mandy still don’t know her name

[@peterz22thomas5]

They should be.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

No, they are avowed enemies of black people.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

I presume that you are white.

[@SexyBeautifulBabe]

@@shannonswift2233 patrisse? The one who scammed Americans of money so that She can buy her mansion in an all white neighborhood with her very white homosexual lover ?

[@astronomianova1]

Someone has said this before me: Dr. Loury is fantastic at summarizing (steel manning) the other side. When he does this, it is extremely important because it compels the panel/guests to answer and hopefully answer to a legitimate criticism of their own position. Only those committed to finding a good path forward could be amenable to this.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

,😀

[@loookaroundyou]

He is good at doing this regarding the left wing, but the more moderate positions amongst the Democratic Party he seems to neglect. It's like he became disillusioned of the progressive left and now feels that the right is the only appropriate home for him. One example is him referring to Obama as "socialist," then modifying his description later but not fairly representing Obama's views, which tend to be quite centrist on many topics.

[@brandyk]

Choosing to ignore obvious signs of improvement. So true. Not only is it not correct n not helpful,I've yet to hear how even if we had agreement that there wasn't a plan that would make anything better. A revolving shell game of who is the favored n who it's not ok to discriminate against based on gender, orientation n race will not benefit society at all

[@brandyk]

I think John is naive. These race hustlers especially Sharpton know exactly what their doing. He's been around tooooo long n enough evidence to show this. If the book is not yet written on some of the newer folks like Lightfoot n Breed perhaps but Sharptons not doing this to make money???? Please

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

@@brandyk No game going on. You are a dreadful coward. Racism is not really helpful and you seem to suggest that discrimination Is a positive.

[@retrojazzdanceandmore]

I was so excited to see Ian Rowe as your guest this week! He's so legit! Love his educational ideas and his new book.

[@danilopompey754]

Really, the dude is an idiot. What does homelessness have to do with defunding the police? Stop pretending to be stupid, please. QED

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

😂😂

[@twodogs3868]

​@@AndyMann-vs3sf I'm not being provocative. You've expressed your contempt for the panel in many comments to the affirmative. Do you have any disagreements that you'd care to share, or are you emotionally tied to being a contrarian?

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

@@twodogs3868 Loury and pal are disgusting, sick and immoral slime. My views are based on analysis of their output.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

@@twodogs3868 I am, indeed, emotionally tied to being a contrarian. It is cultural.

[@geneiannuzzi4727]

Ian Rowe is a school board member in my town. I had no previous awareness of him beyond that but I liked what he said during his campaign and gladly voted for him. After hearing this conversation, I realize how blessed we are to have him.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

Dangerous for black children.

[@gammasmash1924]

​@@AndyMann-vs3sfWhich of his ideas are dangerous, and why?

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

@@gammasmash1924 I did not say that any of his ideas were dangerous.

[@serpentines6356]

​@@AndyMann-vs3sf What is dangerous?

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

@@serpentines6356 Ian Rowe.

[@projectE4]

I love these discussions. Especially how you three do not always agree and still have logical pushback presented with grace for one another. I’ll be watching these with my teenage sons. Thank you for your voices.

[@lynnogard5420]

This was one of the best shows of all. Ian Rowe is so spot on. Please note the other cities like San Fran that have changed so much like Seattle, Portland, Austin, Mpls. And Chicago. BLM brought harm to some of these communities and Sharpton was in the thick of it all, and yes for money and spotlight not progress. We all need to keep up the fight. Thank you for such enlightenment.

[@serpentines6356]

I have listened to talk radio for decades. There were several popular local talk show hosts out of San Fran. The one late night black guy was very liberal, and when I heard him bash Sharpton, and Jackson, I figured, wow, for him to bash them they must be baaaad. Everyone around me thought they were great. I listen to Brandon Tatum. He is a kick. I am more lib, not Christian but he is so honest, down to earth and that is so refreshing.

[@bobbyschannel349]

I always say ... when white people speak on these matters, I first present to them the facts.. if you would had delt with your white racism, and police harassment we would not have these issues.

[@farmbrough]

I love how good-natured these three are. Worth watching the whole hour plus.

[@fantastic40s99]

This was a beautiful conversation. Thank you.

[@pattyevans9250]

I follow these men and am ever grateful for what I learn from them. I rank them up there with Thomas Sowell. God bless!

[@jamesdozier3722]

The reason why your show is so popular is easy to answer. It’s because you all speak to truth and reality. And thank you for that!! PS: Ian Rowe is an American hero for what he is doing.

[@harry0042]

This was a great discussion. Many points about the state of the community were spot on.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

Do you have a groin area.

[@johnhaeberle3773]

I love these three guys! They are among the most essential voices in our country. Bless them.

[@AlanCoffey]

I saw Dr. Kendi speak at the Unitarian Universalist Association meeting in Portland last year. He said nothing. Not just nothing I could not predict, but nothing. Many words, no meaning. It is a shame.

[@kham6006]

You mean sham

[@danieltosh9710]

First time hearing Ian, his conviction and his message is spot on. Loved this talk.

[@Grequierecafe]

As I listen to you, I energized and encouraged even as I recover via retirement from the ever more woke public education system that I escaped. My hope is for my young adult sons who are in a public university. I pray that they don’t succumb to the doctrine of despair and victimhood that is so often promulgated in their school.

[@FlyJohnny100]

Ian Rowe is an excellent guest with an honest and generous approach...another great discussion on the Glenn Show!

[@ElmoIsBold]

1. Old guys rule, 2. Fascinating topic, 2. Beautiful display of intellect and reason.

[@williambare5295]

Fantastic show. I hope Ian will be able to come back again sometime down the road. I would love to hear from him again.

[@dranderson6071]

Ian is fantastic. That Booker T quote was great

[@Marko-1]

Race baiters/hustlers only do harm to the minds of young people, especially males who need to have the attitude that they can succeed.

[@nandrumacparlan4086]

Such a joy and privilege to listen to your inspiring conversations. I'm grateful for your company.

[@dougm5341]

This was an outstanding podcast. The ideas and thoughts are so well thought out and presented. Well done gentlemen.

[@4dmind]

That is the best hour I've spent on a philosophical discussion in many months. Thank you - all three of you - for that grand tour and excellent thoughts.

[@richbirecki]

We need more people like ian in this world!!

[@karied3597]

Brilliant men! A thought provoking and inspirational discussion. Thank you 🙏

[@mikem668]

Ironically, the Guardian newspaper had an article today on how things weren't really that bad in San Francisco. Even though they admitted practically everyone who lives there disagreed. It was like the Monty Python Dead Parrot skit.

[@hopelessatusernames]

It's not happening > maybe it happens > it's happening and it's actually good a good thing

[@mikegray8776]

That sums up the entire Guardian world view down to a T!

[@mikem668]

@@mikegray8776 Yep. Here's why I read it. Beyond being free and having a UK/EU slant, the bs is obvious. Half of the articles are like People magazine merged with the National Enquirer. If either still exist. It's incomprehensible to me that any self-respecting lefty would want anything to do with them.

[@alh915]

As a lifetime Guardian reader I stopped 2 years ago. It's not a reliable news source.

[@mikem668]

@@alh915 We agree it's not reliable. I read it because I know the bias. What's more disgusting is it's turned into a "lifestyle" magazine. Something the NYT did years ago. It's as if their audience is so shallow they only way they can keep readers is to emphasize sexual dysfunction.

[@billlyons7024]

Man you guys are doing good work here, and thank you for it.

[@eugenedoupejr2673]

By far, one of the best discussions ( and there have been many) on this issue of the “message” we wish to convey to our students and the populace on moving forward to build on those principles that have compelled this country to “…form a more perfect Union”.

[@jvrza373]

This is the best conversation I've ever heard. Thank you!!

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

😳

[@cristinaegas]

Wonderful Ian you book will bring kids light to their existance. yes, please gentlemen come back again❤

[@richardhausig9493]

Warning! If you listen to these men you will become better informed and smarter. Great show.

[@npickard4218]

This was an amazing discussion. I've just watched it for the second time!

[@StealBackYourHeart]

Please make Shorts on KZbin of these excellent points!

[@keithyoung3656]

Great show. Thank you for this platform. It is an encouragement to me to hear black men stand for truth thst will benefit everyone. Your words carry more weight because you practice what you speak. Thank you for your courage and stand

[@AndreComtois]

"The moral significance of a belief derives from the purpose to which it is put." -- Thomas Sowell

[@johnchristopher3032]

I think he borrowed that one from Kant.

[@ELL289]

@@johnchristopher3032Probably, but he knew the quote and where to apply it.

[@darkrose00]

Amazing discussion! This is what needs to happen more and more, in the open and with more people. I hope more black conservative voices are heard, and to your point - a needed leader needs to come out to create a strong POV to drown out the other voices

[@TheDailyGroov]

Absolutely loved this, thank you all x

[@5.2litrecat45]

Thomas and Silence: my grandfather instilled it me, "You learn nothing while you are talking, you learn when you are listening and observing."

[@SacClass650]

Beautiful and brilliant conversation, as ever.

[@DeborahRowePodcast]

This was an excellent conversation. Thank you. Btw, I've asked before, but will you please consider taking this show on the road? Set up dates all around the country. I'm quite certain that you could very easily get sponsorship, sell tickets, whatever... People are thirsty for this kind of dialogue.

[@garywdarr]

Wow, wow, wow! Outstanding conversation with three great perspectives. Glenn's ability to "steel man" a perspective is impressive and a valuable tool. Much appreciated, and thank you for introducing me to the poem Invictus.

[@qarshief3716]

Thank you, Glenn, for this show. Thank you for introducing me to someone with intellectual honesty like John:able to see someone's intellectual "limitation" within the context that fowards humanity and without diving into ad hominem. "Kendi is limited, not a huckstar." You, John, have made me think about how I personally operate within the world. Thank you for this.

[@sunnyadams5842]

I KNOW IT!! JOHN - you made me back it up and rethink some stuff. Because I was shocked at this particular generosity. I was cheering your every word until this. Then I went, Oh No!! Thank you - I think.

[@dylhas1]

The end of this podcast was really inspiring. People need to realize they control the direction of their own life. Even if there were outside forces trying to stop them, in the end, each of us have the ability to overcome whatever is in our way

[@BrandonGoldfarb-s8l]

I want to commend you for putting your shoes together for the benefit of all humanity. Thank you for being a voice of reason in these times where ideology alone is paramount and discourse is seemingly impossible.

[@haroldthomas2172]

Glenn brings the thunder!!

[@maxinefreeman8858]

I'm a white woman, 71 years old. A nurse, retired. I've listened to you three. I'm sitter here in Southern Appalachia. Looking back the War on Poverty I believe , it helped people in some ways, it hurt in others. I've got a lot out what you all are saying. I voted for Obama the first time. I sat out the 2012 election. I was a born and bred Democrat. My daddy was a coal miner. I know the Democrat party has left me behind. I'm not a Republican. I think of myself as an Independent. Maybe I'm just too old. I seriously think that women are going to lose their rights to the transwomen. This is happening so fast.

[@urbansetter1]

They already are. I too left the democratic party. I am a independent. I voted biden but sat out of trump clinton. I think this country is in trouble and it cant continue like it is. The negativity and tension are intense

[@dickgrayson4325]

That is what happens when you vote the way you do. You are the problem and part of the cause. Good job voting for worthless democrats.

[@matt75hooper]

You voted for Obama then voted for Hillary then voted for Biden. Shame on you for now complaining about societal chaos ! You voted for it. I hope you do lose your girlie rights. Your grand kids will have your abyssal voting record to blame.

[@graygato]

Agreed

[@EllaArmstrong25]

We’ve already lost our rights to the trans brigade. It’s just a matter of when we will start to really see the effects. I worry for my daughter.

[@jteeezy275]

3 most sane people in America

[@colleenmonfross4283]

Thank goodness these conversations are being had. I have some hope, now.

[@mikegray8776]

Thanks Glenn & John. Good value - and great conversation - as always. Good to see Ian Rowe also, whose Business model really SHOULD be seriously considered as a nationwide blueprint for education - but of course never will be.

[@trexusification]

Thank you for this discussion

[@kkampy4052]

Another amazing discussion, thanks guys.

[@Fitzy-0915]

What an amazing conversation. Everyone is great. Really enjoying listening to their guest Ian. This is such a needed conversation before our nation falls off the cliff with self induced injuries that will destroy our country and divide the “United”States of America that has always been a melting pot. But there is so much anger over past transgression and the media and politicians are all too eager to fan the flames of divide. We can’t go forward by looking in the rear view mirror. We need a leader (and a Media)who brings pride back to the country, with a vision for our nation that builds us back up instead of turning us against each other and tearing us down.

[@cisnerosigonda]

There is still a huge prejudice in school about "acting white." That seems to be a much more active social force than "systemic racism."

[@hjr228]

You don't think that is a part of systematic racism?

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

Which school are you referring to? Very vague stuff here.

[@juanitamulhern7585]

Thank you for your comments. It is so good to see and hear truth!

[@4dmind]

Instant Sub. I found you through your appearance on Bill Maher's show, and I've seen you several times. I am also a fan of Mr. McWhorter. And Mr. Rowe is a new addition. Thank you for your service, courage and wonderful leadership.

[@doctorwoohoo1152]

Amazing episode. Just brilliant.

[@Ramiiam]

Good to meet Ian Rowe!

[@zebrabuzz]

Mmmmmmmmmm.......What an amazing conversation. Absolutely Brilliant.

[@paulmorgancollings7833]

The great Dr. Martin Luther King famously voiced his earnest prayer "I have a dream that one day, my children will not be judged by the colour of their skin, but by the goodness of their character ". He would be crushed and dismayed at the destruction of his life's work to the dregs of entitled victim activism. It's destroyed his dream. Love from the UK.

[@gnlout7403]

Today, the left will have you believe MLK agrees with the likes of Kendi. It seems to me we are rewriting history before our very eyes

[@bobbyschannel349]

Let me explain something to you, since you don't know any better you're from the UK. MLK was not the de facto black leader, he was a civil rights activists in the South. Not all black people followed him. Especially in the North and eastern cities. And what do you mean his works. Do you understand one of the reasons why Lyndon Johnson enacted the 1968 Civil Rights Act. Was because every single city in the United States was on fire when MLK died. There were riots all over the United States. In fact, going back when m.l.k. was alive, in the 1965 Watts Riots. Every single black person that was at that meeting with m.l.k. argued with him and did not like his nonviolent stance.. And finally. Before m.l.k. even started in the Civil Rights Movement. Mlk was talking about being violent in the very beginning, he was talked out of it by Bayard Rustin.. so you don't really know what you're talking about. You don't know nothing about MLK.

[@gnlout7403]

@@bobbyschannel349 I'm not sure you two disagree

[@seanacarmody3950]

Everyone should hear this! Much respect.

[@MtnMig]

I was a professor at a University program designed to help primarily African American students earn a college degree. The program's primary narrative was that as a black American you are a victim, in fact your victimization is inescapable because it is preserved in your genes. As a biologist I strongly assert that there is no such thing but what shocked me the most was the utter commitment to this victimization narrative. In the end despite being given everything for free, including tuition, books, laptop, breakfast and lunch, tutors, counseling, etc, students for the most part performed poorly and the program is a failure and only persists for political reasons and because it pretends to succeed by having abysmally low academic standards. I built a lab and hired students to work with me. Just about every one of those student went on to graduate and is now professional in the sciences. However, I dared to question the victimization narrative and was shown the door. I left academia. What this program demonstrates is that even when you remove all the barriers, if you continue to foster a culture of victimization, you will fail, or worse, you pretend to succeed.

[@gbh5912]

Excellent explanation of your experience and it just adds proof that the victimization is fed via propaganda media, no one has to eat it but they never stop pounding it into everyone's minds and it eventually wears most people down to anger[of any race] So criminal how you were pushed from your career for being honest, can't express my respect for you enough and appreciate you sharing that atrocity in hopes it helps others to question, ,, everthing in life until contempt that seems like the truth

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[@Catherine-u8l]

Pretty much the “ opposite” of oppression. What a joke.

[@777jones]

You make a great point. Nothing is more disabling than victimhood. People perform best when they are challenged. Oppression did not stop Jewish or Chinese achievements. But victimhood rhetoric causes people to stop taking self responsibility for their own excellence.

[@danepaulstewart8464]

EACH of these men spoke passages within this discussion, that if taken and put into a short treatise, would encapsulate and summarize the ENTIRE DISCUSSION. I think I’ll throw this talk into the editor and make the cut myself. These gentlemen deserve to be lionized. They’ve worked that hard. They’re that good.

[@drlarrypfaff]

Thank you gentlemen for both the knowledge you imparted and the civil way that you did. Bravo!

[@jamessgian7691]

I’m very glad that the three of you, Sowell, Hughes, Valdary, Williams, Steele and a few others are offering saner, MLK-like voices of reason on the black experience in this country.

[@QIrons]

Awesome conversation! I wish Rowe’s book were available on audible!

[@StuartMcFarlane]

Fantastic talk gentleman. Bravo!!

[@windycityliz7711]

The quality that Dr. King and Malcolm X had was the spirit of true service to humanity rather than themselves. That is a quality that is increasingly hard to find.

[@josephkaminskid.o.personal2936]

Just watched and all I can muster is WOW! One of the greatest intellectual & intelligent discussions I've ever witnessed. I appreciate Glenn & John immensely. However, Ian absolutely blew me away! Amazing discussion of thoughts & ideas that are honest, positive, & productive for our potentially great future as a people & a country. Neither negative, destructive, nor bathed in racial divisiveness & competitive oppression. Thomas Sowell is in my Top 5 of most admired & respected thought leaders in modern history. You gentlemen, are rapidly ascending in my ranks. Especially Ian. Congratulations to you all! I believe you are each & collectively making a difference.

[@janinemartens2908]

You guys are so terrific !!!!! Common sense perspectives that apply to ALL races. Bravo from Austin, Texas. Keep up the good work please. We need smart moderates and you are.

[@RoyHaynes-fp3bm]

Whenilookbackatwhatdrkingriskedlfeelasthoughhewasrobbedbythesetypeople whoareonlyselfpraosing😂😂😂

[@jaydee5447]

Three brilliant men. Thank you men for speaking common sense messages that really apply to all people regardless of race. Much respect 🙏🏻

[@carlknepfler8976]

you guys can deliver the message!!!

[@elohimembroidery]

Ian Rowe is a treasure.

[@GregJacobson-tj2bz]

Just focus on the Triumph. If we remember in the 1940's Japanese American's were kept in camps in America but you never hear from a Japanese American on that as a hold back in their current condition. The Asian culture focuses on Family, Faith and Education which are the pillars of success.

[@sinologika]

WOW. WOW. WOW. Three cheers for the three wise men! When the Invictus poem was invoked at the end, shivers down my spine...

[@hypatia3068]

Yes, yes and yes. More conversations, less bloody debates. People scream, rave and rant at eachother, no one gets an inch more understanding, where thw differencies really are. I despair.

[@jimarger8533]

Wonderful conversation and podcast.

[@neilolson3220]

Great episode men. Thank you .

[@4thetruth440]

“How do we replicate the successes that do exist in our communities “ ✨🏆✨

[@richbirecki]

Very much enjoyed this conversation. Thanks for bringing on Ian. The black community needs people preaching to them what is Possible rather than the poison of victimhood cynical agents use to manipulate them. And fathers

[@tommy39693]

I only bought John’s book after listening to Lexicon Valley and watching the Glenn Show! I’m more that happy to buy the books, but the podcast is a great medium to get the message across!

[@michaelhiggins2562]

I like John's idea of getting past so old tired ideas and get on with making life better for the Black community.

[@eaglestrike99able]

What a refreshing conversation.

[@henrys2403]

another home run. love you guys.

[@richardjustinamericantatem5758]

You guys give me hope for America...

[@brocktoon8]

You guys are such a breath of fresh air. Thank you

[@marieannwalsh662]

Three lovely men. Great chat.

[@dustinhecker3986]

Wonderful conversation. I'm trying to see if there's a way to shoehorn this into my church's racial Justice initiative committee presentations. But I am probably a bit too optimistic.

[@pauldubuc8879]

@Richard Cranium Could you post a link to this statement?

[@OkTxSheepLady]

@Richard Cranium what a great proactive act by your congregation.

[@Seliz463]

The woke religion has a different explanation for original sin. They claim it has no supernatural origin, but exists only in certain people, due to the color of their skin. This is clearly a religious claim and it’s appropriate to reject forced compliance on those grounds alone. But having the backing that it violated the tenets of Christianity is certainly another excellent avenue to combatting it

[@stud6414]

Why even be Christian anymore if you believe in Maoist ideology?

[@anyawaleofondo]

@@richardcranium1776 Racism has NOTHING to do with humanity or fallibility. It is the means by which whytes ensure their survival. This is not complex. All have not fallen short at all and you are just casting off accountability. Whytes, especially english speaking whytes are washed up. Useless, lazi and redundant. Now frantically making excuses as though this will save you. A sin is a sin and the bible is clear on this. No blaq men has ever legislated on basis of race but whytes have taken racism, discrimination and segregation wherever they have gone. We R all so tired of you and your excuses. Your excuses are particularly hilarious and utterly godless.

[@davidabitbol4296]

This is a very important podcast. Thank you professor Glen

[@AZWings]

Really great conversation. Thanks gentlemen.

[@judithmiller7003]

Oh my goodness. Listening to these gentlemen gives this old old white lady renewed hope for America! I'm so thankful that I stumbled upon Glenn Loury!

[@Yegjesh]

Behind the raised fist of Malcolm X was the universal message that any race can embrace - educational achievement, avoidance of drugs / alcohol, wholesome food consumption, and being a role model father for your children. If he were alive today he would not only be deemed to be unworthy of a race spokesperson - he would be shouted down and deplatformed….

[@edwinamendelssohn5129]

True, all I see is "by any means necessary, "taken out of context."

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

​@@edwinamendelssohn5129 You cannot see.

[@edwinamendelssohn5129]

@@AndyMann-vs3sf I see 🐂💩

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

@@edwinamendelssohn5129 Same old Edwina!! Stacks of class.

[@hjr228]

Why do you think he was demonized for so many years? I ask sincerely, not rhetorically.

[@zorkwork3841]

Hey Glen Loury....So happy to see your podcasts..been listening and watching for some time now.

[@michaelmcchesney6645]

This was one of the best episodes of the Glenn show I have ever seen. I have some thoughts on the final question raised by Glenn. I think there are a couple of significant differences between Barack Obama and Clarence Thomas, apart from ideology. Barack Obama is a politician. He is flexible. He is someone who is comfortable (or at least willing) to temper his positions to make them more politically palatable. For instance, Obama was opposed to same sex marriage right up until the point it was safe for his position to “evolve.” He is also an excellent public speaker. Say what you will, but the man can give a speech. He appears to be comfortable living his life in public. Clarence Thomas on the other hand is a much different, much more private person. I don't know him personally, but did get to speak to him briefly when he gave a speech he gave at my law school. This was in 1997, more than 5 years after his vicious confirmation fight. It was obvious from some of the things he said that he was still angry over it. For instance, during his speech, he said he wasn't allowed to believe the things he believed because of the color of his skin. Up to that point, there had been a tendency for Republican appointees to the Supreme Court to move toward the center over time. For instance, compare the early opinions of Justice O'Connor and Justice Kennedy with some of their later ones. But listening to Justice Thomas speak, I recall thinking that there was very little chance he would moderate his positions over time. He wouldn't want to give his critics the satisfaction. Justice Thomas has demonstrated that he is not willing to modify any of his beliefs in order to be more popular. One of the fundamental difference between how the public sees President Obama and Justice Thomas is that Thomas generally speaks through his opinions while Obama speaks by speaking. As a recovering lawyer deeply interested in constitutional law, I find it frustrating that the news media, not to mention the public, only seems to care about the outcome of a case as opposed to the reasoning behind that outcome. Add to that the general left wing bias of the media that results in numerous stories about Justice Thomas' heartless rulings. So most of the public doesn't hear the reasoning behind his rulings. I think that to many people, Justice Thomas is just a Black man that sold his soul to heartless Republicans and doesn't care about other Black people. There is another difference between Barack Obama and Clarence Thomas that might explain some of the differences in how the public sees them. In the early 1990s, P.J. O'Rourke wrote an article titled “100 Reasons Why Jimmy Carter Was A Better President Than Bill Clinton.” One of those reasons was that Jimmy Carter had a much nicer wife. It has become increasingly clear over the last couple of years that Barack Obama has a much nicer wife than Justice Thomas. Until the very end of the Trump administration, I wold have said that Obama benefited from the high regard the American people have for Michelle, but that Ginni didn't detract from how the public saw Justice Thomas. Well the public other than racists that objected to his marrying a white woman at least. That is no longer the case. By embracing the stolen election nonsense, Ginni Thomas has made it easier for Democrats to argue that Justice Thomas is all about achieving conservative results rather than following the law and constitution as he understood it. It has also probably made the damage from the allegations that he has had an improper relationship with billionaire Harlan Crow worse than it would otherwise have been. But that story is still in progress. Still, I would advise anyone who has a spouse on a short list for the Supreme Court to NOT pursue a career as a political operative.

[@aldoe2975]

Great insight, well done!

[@michaelmcchesney6645]

@@aldoe2975 Thank you.

[@YaFeya13]

Incredible conversation, more people need to hear you!