Who Speaks for Black America? | Glenn Loury, John McWhorter & Ian Rowe | The Glenn Show

[@kenalsman7374]

I am an 82 year old white guy who never considered himself at all racist, but have become, i think, more so in the past couple of years given the actions, “leadership” of black groups and the Democratic Party - we must all be going crazy. Listening to you, your show, its direction and guests is bringing back my former sense of balance. Thank you

[@mjwp8750]

Very nicely said Sir. Thank you. God Bless 🙏🏾

[@axMf3qTI]

Oh so you was around before MLK was white-washed. Back when he was militant, a socialist and alive.

[@ambercarter9746]

I’m not black I’m not white but I agree hole heartedly

[@nickrenshaw4733]

As a white man from Australia. I find it so refreshing to see three well educated black men having an open debate of differing opinions with civility. White people such as myself could learn a lot from these great men. Must watch content.

[@rayschnettgoecke6776]

Deer found in a lady’s home

[@kimj5037]

I've watched a few interviews with Ian. His leadership is inspiring. I love his sentiment, "It's not about the family you came from. It's about the family you want to build".

[@michaelweber5702]

Here here ! Good work Ian ... "It's about the family you want to build"

[@samright4661]

Brilliant Man

[@johnluciano6814]

Absolutely in agreement.

[@Steril707]

That is an amazing sentence..

[@Survivor-i9h]

Perfectly said @kim5037. We have choices. I'll use my dad as an example, and I did this many times to state this point. My father was a racist, women beating, rapist that was an alcoholic. Now me, raped four times by him, and two other men. He wasn't the first rapist. That man was Mexican, that was my first rapist. My father was full blown Italian, and my mom is English, Hungarian, and three part Irish on her fathers side, which was also like my dad. Her mom, my wonderful grandma, who God rest her soul. That women was an angle. Her parents was full blood Romanian. Here we are just white. Now I decided that toxic environment wasn't for me. I was also a victim like them of domestic violence, but I don't see me as a victim. I see me as a survivor of a toxic upbringing unfortunately, but I got educated and I want better for myself. So I don't drink, and I don't abuse anyone or anything. I am on the other side, a real deal blue blood city white cops cousin. He and I are allot alike the cops said. We was raised around racism, but decided that's not for us to be.

[@theodorenkwenti721]

Man oh man, please invite Ian often. What a breath of fresh air!

[@matthewg5792]

I wish this channel had more reach so people gained more exposure to sound reasoning. Glenn and John, and now Ian, give me hope that logic and discourse are not dead.

[@greatvalleyone]

The fact that this channel has less than 50k subs is proof that KZbin crushes certain content, I never get notifications for this channel even though I select it.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

They are conmen and pretty evil.

[@ckhawk00]

@@AndyMann-vs3sf a hell of a statement with out providing proof or at least examples.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

@@ckhawk00 Thx 🙏🏿 but you just need to look at their output. They are ludicrous.

[@judyhawley7924]

Good men and they should be listen to and be leaders of America.

[@CMatthewHawkins]

Loury, Rowe, and McWhorter once again bring the most substantive discussions of these complicated issues. Their contribution to our thought and analysis of black American thought, politics, and public policy is indispensable. It is a privilege to be able to listen to their conversations. The effect of these conversations will be much greater than any of the three can imagine. What I admire about John McWhorter is he is unwilling to demonize his opponents, rather, he tries to understand them. He is not trying to be self-righteous; he is trying to get it right. McWhorter is relentlessly intellectually honest.

[@ty5020]

your comment excellently describes how ive felt about these guys for while. when the nation falls these are the men i pray we can look to and pick up the pieces

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

McWhorter is unwilling to WHAAAT??!!

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

​@@ty5020 XD XD🦄

[@twodogs3868]

​@@AndyMann-vs3sf McWhorter is unwilling to, "demonize his opponents". To this comment, I vehemently agree. He certainly will call a spade a spade. What he doesn't do is level ad hominem attacks against those to which he disagrees. This is especially admirable considering the vitriol being spewed toward him from his own race.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

@@twodogs3868 His own race is the human race. This is where you both fail. You seemed to have missed Johnboy's behavior towards Ibram X Kendi amongst others. These bastards have got you trained. McWhorter has ascribed satanic values to Kendi as, according to him, racism ended in 1985! Because he does this in a reasonable type voice you feel that it doesn't count 🙊

[@mustlearnmore4884]

I'd never heard of Ian Rowe before, but I'm grateful to Glenn and John for introducing him to me in this video. I'll be grabbing a copy of 'Agency', and I'll be following Ian's work going forward. Thank you all, and God bless 🙏🏽🔥💪🏽

[@jeffreyrothe1760]

Check out his book titled, "Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make it Harder for Blacks to Succeed."

[@mustlearnmore4884]

@@jeffreyrothe1760 Thank you for the suggestion, but isn't that by John Riley?

[@SycrosD4]

@@jeffreyrothe1760 Jason L. Riley wrote that, Not Ian Rowe

[@astronomianova1]

Someone has said this before me: Dr. Loury is fantastic at summarizing (steel manning) the other side. When he does this, it is extremely important because it compels the panel/guests to answer and hopefully answer to a legitimate criticism of their own position. Only those committed to finding a good path forward could be amenable to this.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

,😀

[@loookaroundyou]

He is good at doing this regarding the left wing, but the more moderate positions amongst the Democratic Party he seems to neglect. It's like he became disillusioned of the progressive left and now feels that the right is the only appropriate home for him. One example is him referring to Obama as "socialist," then modifying his description later but not fairly representing Obama's views, which tend to be quite centrist on many topics.

[@brandyk]

Choosing to ignore obvious signs of improvement. So true. Not only is it not correct n not helpful,I've yet to hear how even if we had agreement that there wasn't a plan that would make anything better. A revolving shell game of who is the favored n who it's not ok to discriminate against based on gender, orientation n race will not benefit society at all

[@brandyk]

I think John is naive. These race hustlers especially Sharpton know exactly what their doing. He's been around tooooo long n enough evidence to show this. If the book is not yet written on some of the newer folks like Lightfoot n Breed perhaps but Sharptons not doing this to make money???? Please

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

@@brandyk No game going on. You are a dreadful coward. Racism is not really helpful and you seem to suggest that discrimination Is a positive.

[@TubeDude78]

Such a great conversation. I think the obvious answer to "Who are the Black leaders of this generation?" is staring us right in the face.

[@shannonswift2233]

Who do you think? I would wager Al Sharpton (whom I met randomly at Times Sq in 2021) is the standard bearer but Patrisse Cullors is the de facto leader, albeit Mandy still don’t know her name

[@peterz22thomas5]

They should be.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

No, they are avowed enemies of black people.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

I presume that you are white.

[@SexyBeautifulBabe]

@@shannonswift2233 patrisse? The one who scammed Americans of money so that She can buy her mansion in an all white neighborhood with her very white homosexual lover ?

[@projectE4]

I love these discussions. Especially how you three do not always agree and still have logical pushback presented with grace for one another. I’ll be watching these with my teenage sons. Thank you for your voices.

[@retrojazzdanceandmore]

I was so excited to see Ian Rowe as your guest this week! He's so legit! Love his educational ideas and his new book.

[@danilopompey754]

Really, the dude is an idiot. What does homelessness have to do with defunding the police? Stop pretending to be stupid, please. QED

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

😂😂

[@twodogs3868]

​@@AndyMann-vs3sf I'm not being provocative. You've expressed your contempt for the panel in many comments to the affirmative. Do you have any disagreements that you'd care to share, or are you emotionally tied to being a contrarian?

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

@@twodogs3868 Loury and pal are disgusting, sick and immoral slime. My views are based on analysis of their output.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

@@twodogs3868 I am, indeed, emotionally tied to being a contrarian. It is cultural.

[@geneiannuzzi4727]

Ian Rowe is a school board member in my town. I had no previous awareness of him beyond that but I liked what he said during his campaign and gladly voted for him. After hearing this conversation, I realize how blessed we are to have him.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

Dangerous for black children.

[@gammasmash1924]

​@@AndyMann-vs3sfWhich of his ideas are dangerous, and why?

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

@@gammasmash1924 I did not say that any of his ideas were dangerous.

[@serpentines6356]

​@@AndyMann-vs3sf What is dangerous?

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

@@serpentines6356 Ian Rowe.

[@farmbrough]

I love how good-natured these three are. Worth watching the whole hour plus.

[@keithyoung3656]

Great show. Thank you for this platform. It is an encouragement to me to hear black men stand for truth thst will benefit everyone. Your words carry more weight because you practice what you speak. Thank you for your courage and stand

[@jamesdozier3722]

The reason why your show is so popular is easy to answer. It’s because you all speak to truth and reality. And thank you for that!! PS: Ian Rowe is an American hero for what he is doing.

[@DeborahRowePodcast]

This was an excellent conversation. Thank you. Btw, I've asked before, but will you please consider taking this show on the road? Set up dates all around the country. I'm quite certain that you could very easily get sponsorship, sell tickets, whatever... People are thirsty for this kind of dialogue.

[@pattyevans9250]

I follow these men and am ever grateful for what I learn from them. I rank them up there with Thomas Sowell. God bless!

[@johnhaeberle3773]

I love these three guys! They are among the most essential voices in our country. Bless them.

[@lynnogard5420]

This was one of the best shows of all. Ian Rowe is so spot on. Please note the other cities like San Fran that have changed so much like Seattle, Portland, Austin, Mpls. And Chicago. BLM brought harm to some of these communities and Sharpton was in the thick of it all, and yes for money and spotlight not progress. We all need to keep up the fight. Thank you for such enlightenment.

[@serpentines6356]

I have listened to talk radio for decades. There were several popular local talk show hosts out of San Fran. The one late night black guy was very liberal, and when I heard him bash Sharpton, and Jackson, I figured, wow, for him to bash them they must be baaaad. Everyone around me thought they were great. I listen to Brandon Tatum. He is a kick. I am more lib, not Christian but he is so honest, down to earth and that is so refreshing.

[@bobbyschannel349]

I always say ... when white people speak on these matters, I first present to them the facts.. if you would had delt with your white racism, and police harassment we would not have these issues.

[@FlyJohnny100]

Ian Rowe is an excellent guest with an honest and generous approach...another great discussion on the Glenn Show!

[@harry0042]

This was a great discussion. Many points about the state of the community were spot on.

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

Do you have a groin area.

[@eugenedoupejr2673]

By far, one of the best discussions ( and there have been many) on this issue of the “message” we wish to convey to our students and the populace on moving forward to build on those principles that have compelled this country to “…form a more perfect Union”.

[@Grequierecafe]

As I listen to you, I energized and encouraged even as I recover via retirement from the ever more woke public education system that I escaped. My hope is for my young adult sons who are in a public university. I pray that they don’t succumb to the doctrine of despair and victimhood that is so often promulgated in their school.

[@darkrose00]

Amazing discussion! This is what needs to happen more and more, in the open and with more people. I hope more black conservative voices are heard, and to your point - a needed leader needs to come out to create a strong POV to drown out the other voices

[@danieltosh9710]

First time hearing Ian, his conviction and his message is spot on. Loved this talk.

[@BrandonGoldfarb-s8l]

I want to commend you for putting your shoes together for the benefit of all humanity. Thank you for being a voice of reason in these times where ideology alone is paramount and discourse is seemingly impossible.

[@fantastic40s99]

This was a beautiful conversation. Thank you.

[@ElmoIsBold]

1. Old guys rule, 2. Fascinating topic, 2. Beautiful display of intellect and reason.

[@dougm5341]

This was an outstanding podcast. The ideas and thoughts are so well thought out and presented. Well done gentlemen.

[@cristinaegas]

Wonderful Ian you book will bring kids light to their existance. yes, please gentlemen come back again❤

[@4dmind]

That is the best hour I've spent on a philosophical discussion in many months. Thank you - all three of you - for that grand tour and excellent thoughts.

[@karied3597]

Brilliant men! A thought provoking and inspirational discussion. Thank you 🙏

[@billlyons7024]

Man you guys are doing good work here, and thank you for it.

[@williambare5295]

Fantastic show. I hope Ian will be able to come back again sometime down the road. I would love to hear from him again.

[@nandrumacparlan4086]

Such a joy and privilege to listen to your inspiring conversations. I'm grateful for your company.

[@MrsGladysz]

I think most people are motivated when they hear a positive testimony and hear about progress. The current rhetoric "tears down" rather than "builds up". We should be edifying one another, not tearing into one another. Wagging a finger and shaming someone does not give good results. Sharing ideas, walking beside one another, and motivating one another to step up to the next level is how progress takes place. THANK YOU to each of you. Keep up the good work!

[@richbirecki]

We need more people like ian in this world!!

[@AlanCoffey]

I saw Dr. Kendi speak at the Unitarian Universalist Association meeting in Portland last year. He said nothing. Not just nothing I could not predict, but nothing. Many words, no meaning. It is a shame.

[@kham6006]

You mean sham

[@npickard4218]

This was an amazing discussion. I've just watched it for the second time!

[@garywdarr]

Wow, wow, wow! Outstanding conversation with three great perspectives. Glenn's ability to "steel man" a perspective is impressive and a valuable tool. Much appreciated, and thank you for introducing me to the poem Invictus.

[@dranderson6071]

Ian is fantastic. That Booker T quote was great

[@Marko-1]

Race baiters/hustlers only do harm to the minds of young people, especially males who need to have the attitude that they can succeed.

[@trexusification]

Thank you for this discussion

[@dylhas1]

The end of this podcast was really inspiring. People need to realize they control the direction of their own life. Even if there were outside forces trying to stop them, in the end, each of us have the ability to overcome whatever is in our way

[@beauxtx1959]

"Ignoring progress to tell an exciting story..." Brilliant!

[@SacClass650]

Beautiful and brilliant conversation, as ever.

[@jaydee5447]

Three brilliant men. Thank you men for speaking common sense messages that really apply to all people regardless of race. Much respect 🙏🏻

[@jvrza373]

This is the best conversation I've ever heard. Thank you!!

[@AndyMann-vs3sf]

😳

[@doctorwoohoo1152]

Amazing episode. Just brilliant.

[@StealBackYourHeart]

Please make Shorts on KZbin of these excellent points!

[@sinologika]

WOW. WOW. WOW. Three cheers for the three wise men! When the Invictus poem was invoked at the end, shivers down my spine...

[@qarshief3716]

Thank you, Glenn, for this show. Thank you for introducing me to someone with intellectual honesty like John:able to see someone's intellectual "limitation" within the context that fowards humanity and without diving into ad hominem. "Kendi is limited, not a huckstar." You, John, have made me think about how I personally operate within the world. Thank you for this.

[@sunnyadams5842]

I KNOW IT!! JOHN - you made me back it up and rethink some stuff. Because I was shocked at this particular generosity. I was cheering your every word until this. Then I went, Oh No!! Thank you - I think.

[@alfonsovelasco9627]

What an amazing trio. I am humbled.

[@TheDailyGroov]

Absolutely loved this, thank you all x

[@danepaulstewart8464]

EACH of these men spoke passages within this discussion, that if taken and put into a short treatise, would encapsulate and summarize the ENTIRE DISCUSSION. I think I’ll throw this talk into the editor and make the cut myself. These gentlemen deserve to be lionized. They’ve worked that hard. They’re that good.

[@mikegray8776]

Thanks Glenn & John. Good value - and great conversation - as always. Good to see Ian Rowe also, whose Business model really SHOULD be seriously considered as a nationwide blueprint for education - but of course never will be.

[@Jj-ds7mk]

Glenn Loury, you have convinced me that you are amazingly insightful, intelligent, and most importantly kind.

[@davidabitbol4296]

This is a very important podcast. Thank you professor Glen

[@juanitamulhern7585]

Thank you for your comments. It is so good to see and hear truth!

[@4dmind]

Instant Sub. I found you through your appearance on Bill Maher's show, and I've seen you several times. I am also a fan of Mr. McWhorter. And Mr. Rowe is a new addition. Thank you for your service, courage and wonderful leadership.

[@jimarger8533]

Wonderful conversation and podcast.

[@mikem668]

Ironically, the Guardian newspaper had an article today on how things weren't really that bad in San Francisco. Even though they admitted practically everyone who lives there disagreed. It was like the Monty Python Dead Parrot skit.

[@hopelessatusernames]

It's not happening > maybe it happens > it's happening and it's actually good a good thing

[@mikegray8776]

That sums up the entire Guardian world view down to a T!

[@mikem668]

@@mikegray8776 Yep. Here's why I read it. Beyond being free and having a UK/EU slant, the bs is obvious. Half of the articles are like People magazine merged with the National Enquirer. If either still exist. It's incomprehensible to me that any self-respecting lefty would want anything to do with them.

[@alh915]

As a lifetime Guardian reader I stopped 2 years ago. It's not a reliable news source.

[@mikem668]

@@alh915 We agree it's not reliable. I read it because I know the bias. What's more disgusting is it's turned into a "lifestyle" magazine. Something the NYT did years ago. It's as if their audience is so shallow they only way they can keep readers is to emphasize sexual dysfunction.

[@colleenmonfross4283]

Thank goodness these conversations are being had. I have some hope, now.

[@haroldthomas2172]

Glenn brings the thunder!!

[@4thetruth440]

“How do we replicate the successes that do exist in our communities “ ✨🏆✨

[@susanzeidler3960]

Awesome conversation!! I did not know who Ian was before this - now im going to go buy his book 😊

[@5.2litrecat45]

Thomas and Silence: my grandfather instilled it me, "You learn nothing while you are talking, you learn when you are listening and observing."

[@brocktoon8]

You guys are such a breath of fresh air. Thank you

[@josephkaminskid.o.personal2936]

Just watched and all I can muster is WOW! One of the greatest intellectual & intelligent discussions I've ever witnessed. I appreciate Glenn & John immensely. However, Ian absolutely blew me away! Amazing discussion of thoughts & ideas that are honest, positive, & productive for our potentially great future as a people & a country. Neither negative, destructive, nor bathed in racial divisiveness & competitive oppression. Thomas Sowell is in my Top 5 of most admired & respected thought leaders in modern history. You gentlemen, are rapidly ascending in my ranks. Especially Ian. Congratulations to you all! I believe you are each & collectively making a difference.

[@paulmorgancollings7833]

The great Dr. Martin Luther King famously voiced his earnest prayer "I have a dream that one day, my children will not be judged by the colour of their skin, but by the goodness of their character ". He would be crushed and dismayed at the destruction of his life's work to the dregs of entitled victim activism. It's destroyed his dream. Love from the UK.

[@gnlout7403]

Today, the left will have you believe MLK agrees with the likes of Kendi. It seems to me we are rewriting history before our very eyes

[@bobbyschannel349]

Let me explain something to you, since you don't know any better you're from the UK. MLK was not the de facto black leader, he was a civil rights activists in the South. Not all black people followed him. Especially in the North and eastern cities. And what do you mean his works. Do you understand one of the reasons why Lyndon Johnson enacted the 1968 Civil Rights Act. Was because every single city in the United States was on fire when MLK died. There were riots all over the United States. In fact, going back when m.l.k. was alive, in the 1965 Watts Riots. Every single black person that was at that meeting with m.l.k. argued with him and did not like his nonviolent stance.. And finally. Before m.l.k. even started in the Civil Rights Movement. Mlk was talking about being violent in the very beginning, he was talked out of it by Bayard Rustin.. so you don't really know what you're talking about. You don't know nothing about MLK.

[@gnlout7403]

@@bobbyschannel349 I'm not sure you two disagree

[@marieannwalsh662]

Three lovely men. Great chat.

[@richardhausig9493]

Warning! If you listen to these men you will become better informed and smarter. Great show.

[@dansullivan1246]

Glenn at the end is quite annointed, the whole thing was brilliant...Cheers...

[@drlarrypfaff]

Thank you gentlemen for both the knowledge you imparted and the civil way that you did. Bravo!

[@zebrabuzz]

Mmmmmmmmmm.......What an amazing conversation. Absolutely Brilliant.

[@AndreComtois]

"The moral significance of a belief derives from the purpose to which it is put." -- Thomas Sowell

[@johnchristopher3032]

I think he borrowed that one from Kant.

[@ELL289]

@@johnchristopher3032Probably, but he knew the quote and where to apply it.

[@tommy39693]

I only bought John’s book after listening to Lexicon Valley and watching the Glenn Show! I’m more that happy to buy the books, but the podcast is a great medium to get the message across!

[@QIrons]

Awesome conversation! I wish Rowe’s book were available on audible!

[@abringering2164]

Dr Loury is brilliant! Young black children should be introduced to him!!

[@janinemartens2908]

You guys are so terrific !!!!! Common sense perspectives that apply to ALL races. Bravo from Austin, Texas. Keep up the good work please. We need smart moderates and you are.

[@RoyHaynes-fp3bm]

Whenilookbackatwhatdrkingriskedlfeelasthoughhewasrobbedbythesetypeople whoareonlyselfpraosing😂😂😂

[@seanacarmody3950]

Everyone should hear this! Much respect.

[@kkampy4052]

Another amazing discussion, thanks guys.

[@richardjustinamericantatem5758]

You guys give me hope for America...

[@GregJacobson-tj2bz]

Just focus on the Triumph. If we remember in the 1940's Japanese American's were kept in camps in America but you never hear from a Japanese American on that as a hold back in their current condition. The Asian culture focuses on Family, Faith and Education which are the pillars of success.

[@wayneburrell5664]

I could listen to you guys all day!

[@jteeezy275]

3 most sane people in America

[@jamessgian7691]

I’m very glad that the three of you, Sowell, Hughes, Valdary, Williams, Steele and a few others are offering saner, MLK-like voices of reason on the black experience in this country.

[@henrys2403]

another home run. love you guys.

[@tingalayo6130]

It was a privilege to listen to you gentlemen speak. What you have to say is life affirming.

[@carlknepfler8976]

you guys can deliver the message!!!

[@Fitzy-0915]

What an amazing conversation. Everyone is great. Really enjoying listening to their guest Ian. This is such a needed conversation before our nation falls off the cliff with self induced injuries that will destroy our country and divide the “United”States of America that has always been a melting pot. But there is so much anger over past transgression and the media and politicians are all too eager to fan the flames of divide. We can’t go forward by looking in the rear view mirror. We need a leader (and a Media)who brings pride back to the country, with a vision for our nation that builds us back up instead of turning us against each other and tearing us down.

[@hypatia3068]

Yes, yes and yes. More conversations, less bloody debates. People scream, rave and rant at eachother, no one gets an inch more understanding, where thw differencies really are. I despair.

[@davidstorey7541]

Glenn, Ian, and John - fantastic discussion, thank you!

[@richbirecki]

Very much enjoyed this conversation. Thanks for bringing on Ian. The black community needs people preaching to them what is Possible rather than the poison of victimhood cynical agents use to manipulate them. And fathers

[@zorkwork3841]

Hey Glen Loury....So happy to see your podcasts..been listening and watching for some time now.

[@neilolson3220]

Great episode men. Thank you .

[@eaglestrike99able]

What a refreshing conversation.

[@Ramiiam]

Good to meet Ian Rowe!

[@elohimembroidery]

Ian Rowe is a treasure.

[@michaelhiggins2562]

I like John's idea of getting past so old tired ideas and get on with making life better for the Black community.

[@YaFeya13]

Incredible conversation, more people need to hear you!