How to Avoid the Draft | Eleven Legal ways to be a Draft Dodger

[@natep276]

I feel like the views on this video are about to spike again

[@rickgrimes9317]

They are

[@TypicalRobloxYoutuba]

They are bud

[@nunya-sl9rr]

I'm helping :/ I'm literally watching it over and over:c

[@Sagninaw]

I'm gay, autistic, and have PTSD so I luckily when I was 18 I didn't have to sign up to be picked for the draft, best wishes to you guys if you go to war hope you survive

[@janefelix3821]

You were automatically added to the draft pool.

[@Sagninaw]

@@janefelix3821 my dumbass needs to be heavily medicated every dat so I doubt they picking me because I would probably be a liability and acidently kill people on my side like a dumbass

[@lucky_dog1228]

I have autism so good luck for the government trying to get me drafted to war in businesses we have nothing to do with.

[@janefelix3821]

@@lucky_dog1228 While you were automatically added to Selective Service you're not able to enlist, due to your disability, thus you can't get drafted. Any person who claims a disability, is automatically disqualified from enlisting, so exempted from a draft. This includes disorders such as anxiety, depression, ADHD, which are subjective disabilities, so any person can get themselves exempted.

[@firman_5110]

how to dodge getting drafted : >tell them ur gay >done

[@MrPDTaylor]

Transgender will do it now.

[@sayuncleordie]

Firman _ Not anymore.

[@Colinshreds69]

Good

[@achtunger5528]

No, all you have to do is to tell them that you didn't play CS:GO.

[@tb2748]

not anymore, you would need to say you're trans

[@lmao2911]

Ima be real with you Ukraine:I’m not fucking dying for you

[@markm0000]

No way in hell. They screwed Russia out of a ton of money with oil pipeline usage fees. They got what they deserve.

[@lmao2911]

@@markm0000 fuck Russia too bruh

[@irondragondxd3836]

@@markm0000 it's russia, who cares

[@markm0000]

@@irondragondxd3836 all of Europe, parts of Africa, and most of America. Gas doesn’t grow on trees.

[@irondragondxd3836]

@@markm0000 they want Russia’s oil, my comment was implying we don’t give a damn about Russia’s well being or not getting screwed.

[@rickgrimes9317]

It should be illegal to force random men who dont want to be in war they didnt ask for. Seriously its unhealthy how many people think i should die for a country that never cared about me in the first place

[@tyhullletttt]

While I sorta agree I don’t think it should be illegal. I think it should be more of a if it absolutely has to be done like we’re getting completely wiped out. Not just cos we’re a couple guys short

[@samuraininjarockstar6309]

And having to come back home and be treated like a monster. No thank you.

[@Helm-w1q]

It's to bad, it's your turn. I took my turn .

[@cvcxn477]

I’ll die in my front yard guarding my family, not in foreign territory that has nothing to do with me personally.

[@Seraphim190.]

i will just fake my own death. plumbing accident

[@thehentailord6708]

Instructions unclear . Now there's shit all over my bathroom

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

Instructions unclear, I found my way to Mushroom Kingdom

[@CIVILDEFENSEBUNKER]

Camping...came up missing in Alaska

[@limitedbeast5213]

Well guys I'm officially super gay, I have the biggest of gay

[@sayuncleordie]

Limitedbeast That won't save you.

[@snake4683]

Yes it will Mr. Chanel owner said so, so its true

[@MinecraftJesusGaming]

I identify as

[@emeraldplayer5635]

That won't save you anymore unfortunately, but if your free on Saturday.

[@DuendeCaughtOnTape]

Gonna need this soon

[@thehentailord6708]

Same

[@inmysightpewpew893]

yup.

[@Cacowninja]

Screw the legal ways, I'm just gonna burn my draft card and assert my right not to be drafted. I know easier said than done but you don't need a legal way out when you have a moral way out.

[@emmalopez5333]

If a draft actually comes back there will probably be a shit ton of people that just say no :)

[@Cacowninja]

@@emmalopez5333 That would be good.

[@conductingintomfoolery9163]

@@emmalopez5333 then people would be fill the prison, if enough people say no they would just shoot people who don’t

[@rc59191]

@@conductingintomfoolery9163 lol if government starts murdering people then they'll have a second war on their hands that they definitely won't win.

[@wmich1]

@@conductingintomfoolery9163 that's probably the stupidest thing ive heard

[@Alex-bs2bk]

Iam a Russian, why am I here? Ty KZbin recommendation

[@invalidusername8585]

I live in Europe, I also don't know why this is recommended.

[@haythamkenway1561]

russia have draft

[@tampasilver2040]

I. am from american don't invade Ukraine

[@joshwells6540]

Hope I don't have to fight you brother😂

[@tukangkopi7655]

How about now?

[@CIVILDEFENSEBUNKER]

Your video is about to skyrocket in views.

[@Fre3r]

the bill is just to make things easier for everyone. they pass a bill like this every year to set the military's budget and such. we're not gonna be drafted (but if we do then that fucking sucks)

[@CIVILDEFENSEBUNKER]

@@Fre3r I'm 46 already served pre woke. I'm almost set but I do have a 18 year old son...

[@Bbbmurr]

If it happens and all these fail im just going to say no

[@DuendeCaughtOnTape]

Same, I'd rather be a criminal then die for some oil

[@majesticmajesta5463]

The odds of surviving prison is higher than war

[@PeepPeepPoop]

Yeah, I hear prison is nice this time of year

[@Bbbmurr]

@@PeepPeepPoop ya I hear living in hell for all eternity is overrated

[@PeepPeepPoop]

@@Bbbmurr touché

[@custer2449]

I dodged the draft by joining the Navy. That was the best move I ever did in my entire existence.

[@janefelix3821]

First, when was that? Second, enlisting is not draft dodging, but as they say, going from the frying pan into the fire.

[@Charles-pf7zy]

@@janefelix3821 it was a joke lol

[@janefelix3821]

@@Charles-pf7zy Actually during the Vietnam Conflict men attempted to enlist in the Navy to avoid the draft since the Navy was considered safe and once in the Navy you could not be sent into the Army. Keep in mind there was a draft then, so if they needed more foot soldiers, they simply increased their draft quotas. Since there is no draft nowadays, they use any enlistee, Navy, Air Force, National Guards, for combat foot soldiers.

[@Charles-pf7zy]

@@janefelix3821 the joke was that the navy isn’t a “real” military organization. So he joked that by joining the navy he avoided having to join the “real” military. It’s a joke. A self deprecating joke. You’re taking things too literally.

[@thomasshelby1922]

Well how would you know if you don’t know what the alternatives might have been?

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

So many people are gonna be diagnosed with Ligma again

[@zoy13]

Or even Candus

[@theresadadole5333]

All you gotta do is say "But sir, my wife has a disability. I have to cook and what will my children eat when I'm gone for a year?

[@atanastonov4778]

What if the person is single? Lol.

[@SuperDestroyerFox]

@@atanastonov4778listen, you can just simply pay a woman with a wheelchair to pretend to be your girlfriend. It’s a win-win because good wheelchairs are hella expensive

[@LiamONeilll]

Well this is coming in clutch right about now

[@seansullivan2453]

😭😭😭😭ong

[@jacoblim8634]

I was watching another vid and back in the Vietnam War, less than 1% of draft dodgers went to jail. So not a problem. Tbh prison doesn't seem too bad either. If there's an EMP in 2024, all the prisoners are gonna get released lol.

[@JaxontheOkay]

fun fact, there has not been an enforcement of evasion of signing up for the draft program since the 1980s and thousands of people have just decided to not sign up for it, facing no punishment.

[@janefelix3821]

The issue here is how to avoid conscription, not giving your name to a Federal Agency (Selective Service). Whether or not a person registers is moot as the government has everyone's name in the system today as data mining techniques are vastly different today than they were 50+ years ago when there was a draft.

[@ericp1139]

You forgot to mention Trump dodged the draft 5 times.

[@janefelix3821]

Along with Biden and Clinton.

[@zackglickert4495]

honestly based. just like taxes, we should all be able to avoid them

[@GwladYrHaf]

You forgot to mention Joe Biden dodged the draft 5 times.

[@ericp1139]

I’m not a Biden or Clinton supporter. This comment was made when Trump was in office. Biden shouldn’t be sending anyone to war either.

[@eric6rock]

@@ericp1139 yes sir fuck Joe Biden won't be serving him anytime.

[@itlw999]

4:49 guy: "okay this is definitely not a list of *legal* ways to dodge the draft" video title: "Eleven Legal ways to be a Draft Dodger"

[@janefelix3821]

Most of what he said is based on the draft of 50+ years ago. First the Government ended the college deferment in 1967. Then the military accepted openly gay soldiers, circa 2011. Then religious exemptions were deemed discriminatory in the 1970 Supreme Court ruling, Ali vs. The United States. However, there is no draft, ended 1973, so first the laws have to be written and then challenged in Court, so how can one predict the future?

[@magicmayro]

this gonna come in handy rq 🙏

[@MagmaGMD412]

Yay, thanks, Ima be honest, I’m not dying for ukrain

[@jerryg1692]

Enlist in Air Force or Navy, both are safe branches compared to Marines and Army who do the fighting.

[@janefelix3821]

If they let you enlist. During Vietnam those branches were hard to get into.

[@SandfordSmythe]

Don't join the Navy as a medic/corpsman, unless you like Marines.

[@Talos827]

Better...become a railway guy!

[@Hannah11235]

The gay thing isn't true actually. There were over 15 people in my Division who were openly gay while serving and it isn't an issue now when enlisting. Being trans might be now though.

[@jesuissoldatamericain8771]

Yeah, Obama allowed to do so. And open gay in military has become legal since then.

[@justinguzman6892]

MengHan89 I’ve been drafted before

[@swedishdissident3406]

In MASH clinger had problems getting out despite having a wardrobe full of woman's clothes.

[@Sully0020]

I think you should credit the dude who actually wrote this article either in the video or the description.

[@antiquarian1773]

I think I would have my childhood doctor forge medical papers for me and wear a fake cast. My doctor would definitely do this for me LMAO

[@steaklover948]

Be could get caught and go to jail

[@Talos827]

@@steaklover948 Still safer than the front line.

[@RuskiVodkaaaa]

fuck it's depresseing as fuck how relevent this video may become in a few days, my god have mercy on all of us in these dark times...

[@janefelix3821]

The USA won't impose a draft to fight Russia, First it would take forever to get one going, and then keep in mind the election coming up next November. Unless it gets broad support from both Parties (fat chance) the Party suggesting it would be toast in the election, most likely the Democratic Party, as even if all Republicans support it, it can't pass either Chamber without Democratic Support (needs 60 in the Senate) and then of course President Biden has to agree to it. So if Biden signs off on it, they will lose around 75 in the House and 12 in the Senate. Then of course the litigation and the lack of support, thus many will refuse and get a way with it, would kill it.

[@badasstrapbass2313]

@@janefelix3821 A chance is a chance... And I'm not taking one

[@janefelix3821]

@@badasstrapbass2313 While anything is possible, the likelihood is nil.

[@k8tina]

My dad could have dodged the draft in 1965 because he was in college, and was the sole provider for his single mother and younger brother. His father even offered to send him to Canada to live with family friends. My dad, being a first generation US citizen and very patriotic, decided to go into the Army because he felt it was the "right thing to do". Four months before his service was up, he was sent to Vietnam. His younger brother on the other hand, purposely broke his leg in order to avoid being sent to Vietnam. This was always an issue between my dad and my uncle for many years. 😔

[@janefelix3821]

The easiest method of avoiding conscription is simply to go to a psychiatrist and say you have anxiety about serving and then have him/her prescribe an anti-depressant. Being on a prescription medication for any disorder is an automatic disqualification from serving in the military.

[@ThillerKillerX]

Lol no it's not anymore old a$$

[@zoy13]

The military will wave those conditions

[@janefelix3821]

@@zoy13 Yes but then they have to provide the prescription medication, that is a Federal Law, The Americans with Disability Act (ADA), and then they have to deal with thousands of recruits having mental breakdowns as that is what happens when you type mentally ill recruits.

[@zoy13]

@janefelix3821 Project McNamara 100, 000 or morons could repeat itself again when it comes to desperate time

[@janefelix3821]

@@zoy13 Yes but there was no ADA Civil Rights laws at the time. Today it would be nearly impossible to have that type of project when you have to accommodate every type of disability, unless you reject them.

[@MrHuthmacher]

Lmao...Nobody is getting drafted...

[@MrHuthmacher]

Webbie yes my country is so horrible and terrible and the most evilest country in the world. I am ashamed to be an America. Haha

[@springysloth1186]

FanFanaticArtStudio atta boy, go get em. #Merica Montanan hunter and firearm enthusiast here, hoping I don’t get drafted (20) because I would definitely be front lines, since I’m not a liberal and actually understand a gun.

[@MrHuthmacher]

Springy Sloth11 marine veteran here! OOORAH!

[@geo4419]

Springy Sloth11 um jw, are you a trump supporter?

[@sami_irl]

Oh gee, do you really think so?

[@Name-de1ij]

I heard of this little tale that was about luck where this farmer kept having bad things happen to him which resulted into something good and part of the story the farmer’s son broke a bone and then the next day he was about to get drafted for a war but due to his broken limb (arm or leg) the draft was called off which I guess is similar to the third one

[@vasilijebukac6515]

Nagito komeda

[@Michael_Orestia]

Thats right, a lot of us speak German in Pennsylvania. Wunderbar

[@bwbuske]

5:25 My grandfather did this, he was drafted to the Army, but enlisted in the Navy

[@TheBossofRandom]

I haven't unlocked the respawn power up so this works

[@garrettzucker2894]

Just refuse to do any training, sleep in, & do whatever you want & don't disrespect higher ranks but treat them like a regular stranger you don't want to be around. I'll do as I do, & if they want to send me to war then I'll fight how I want to fight. Fuck I hate marching in cadence, I'm not trying to impress anyone but women in real life, so I'll just walk normally. Like being in good shape is important so obviously don't purposely be lazy, & if your forced to be there respect certain things lile weapon safty. But if they force you to go through training, don't put up with their shit. It's all a mental game, they can only yell at you so much. Once that stops they will just leave you alone & let you do your thing so long as you don't interfere with other people. A lot of people were shy about quitting on basic, but I was fully open with it. Everyone knew I was quitting, & I purposely destigmatize it to make it seem like less of a bad thing & overall people were pretty chill. Some said "Come on, don't quit" but very quickly others came to me & told me they were thinking of quitting as well. Sadly we couldn't just leave, it was an approval process so for a week I made the topic of quitting fully open & public. That week alone almost half my class decided to quit basic & drop the army (I'm not American & we can quit). From the start I purposely decided to approach it like that, obviously I said stuff like "do what you think is best, if it's not for you dont stay in it" but in my head it was my goal to cause as many people to quit as possible & I surpassed me expectations. The only reason I made that my goal is because they forced me to stay for a week because of protocol so I wanted to cause as much damage as possible before leaving the army if they were going to force me to stay. Yeah it's a volunteer force, so it's my fault for joining but once you know I'm quitting no need go drag it out. A few of them said "your not out yet" & shit like that so yeah if I'm not out then I'll f*** you guys over as hard as I can while you keep me there.

[@janefelix3821]

Why go through all that trouble. Just tell the recruiter you have a disability and need special accommodations (ADA) or refuse to sign and put down on the enlistment papers that you are being coerced. Just putting that down on the paper automatically disqualifies you.

[@martyr_lightsilver1833]

You sir, are incredibly based.

[@scratchdog2216]

Simply don't register. Done. How about it ladies? Your turn next? Equality and all right?

[@WheelBite0_0]

What happens if I get drafted and fail the physical on purpose?

[@swedishdissident3406]

Your best bet is to tell them that you have a psychiatric illness such as schzofreana. Act zombie like tell them you are on thorazin. Do not forget to tell them that you have both auditive and visual halusenations.

[@DreamTheory1994]

@@swedishdissident3406 yep just gotta make them scared enough to go "i really don't want to hand this crazy son of a bitch a loaded gun he will just shoot me"

[@joshuajagmohan4553]

@@DreamTheory1994 Lol

[@lezoomer7324]

Late reply but they can tell if you sandbag it

[@gibbythegibster]

I’m just preparing for next month

[@parttimevrgamer3986]

How many of y’all are here because of Russia‘s BS?

[@nigoulenoblehiboux9812]

I'm from Switzerland so I'm quite good

[@chopperread1201]

World war is the world so nope you are fucked

[@nigoulenoblehiboux9812]

@@chopperread1201 yeah but Switzerland has always been one of the better places to be in during wars so I'm not too worried for my own safety

[@kelvinpang438]

@@chopperread1201 Switzerland in ww1 and ww2:hold my defenses

[@arnaudderyck8753]

@@chopperread1201 you dont really know history i see

[@Shadow-gc6le]

I envy you

[@dongadson1099]

Easy...go see your doctor or go to a free clinic. Upon the visits, continue to add long term symptoms to your medical history, like mental disorders, respiratory complications, deliberately fail your eye test, etc. With all of those things, you'd be more of a liability to the military. If that doesn't work, self inflicted wounds of "non-long term" damage should do the trick. If you're disabled or impaired, how can you enter combat? A person's life is much more valuable than the value of valor or patriotism.

[@beatcat1265]

ive seen people say even disabled would be drafted! so what do you mean about the eye exam? theres people in military and army and all that wear glasses arent there? how would that work please? what if someone has been prescribed glasses and has been diagnosed adhd? would that be enough? please any info is appreciated!!

[@respectamerica2382]

You are thinking to hard into this. Just don't register for the selective service . As long as you don't apply for a Federal government job or get any student loans you are good. You will never get drafted.

[@janefelix3821]

If you have a state id or an SSN you probably are automatically registered. Plus in a real draft, everyone's name is known to the system.

[@respectamerica2382]

@@janefelix3821 There is no automatic registration for the draft at the Federal level. Show me the law. And if there was, why would they threaten fines and prison for not registering. You are just assuming there is, when there isn't. Some States, like Texas, do automatically register for the draft when applying for a driver's license. But not all States do, like New Mexico. New Mexico doesn't require a SSN to get a DL. Just go to New Mexico and get a DL. You don't know what you are talking about!

[@respectamerica2382]

@@janefelix3821 That's another lie. Show me a law that requires someone to have a SSN? There isn't one. America is 100% voluntary. Sorry Communist! You lose!

[@respectamerica2382]

@@janefelix3821 The IRS can't even process Tax Return on time or answer Tax payers phone calls. And you believe there's a central database with everyone's DNA in it? Damn you are naive! Keep believe the Marxist Mainstream Mass Media, and keep all your money in the Bank, and keep paying Income Taxes. Tax Slave! 👌😆🇺🇸✝️🤣👏

[@janefelix3821]

@@respectamerica2382 While registration was reinstituted in 1980, it was based on the laws first passed in 1917. At that time there were no computer systems in the country so men registered at local draft offices, which kept paper files. Thus if the draft office didn't have someone's name, chances are they were not known to the system. There was also no method of cross-referencing names between selective service and other services such as DMV or voter registration. Thus the a need for everyone to register to be in the draft. While some states do not register automatically when applying for a state id (which includes driver's licenses), all states comply with the Federal Real ID Act of 2005, which requires the state to report everyone's information who is issued an ID to the Department of Homeland Security, which maintains a DB of all those issued a state id, this started in 2009. Today's computer systems can easily handle this DB which has approximately 250 million names and with the Patriot Acts, Selective Service has access to that DB. Plus an SSN is required to be issued a Real ID, which is required to board airplanes, and open bank accounts. Again, the law has not been modified since 1980, but with modern technology (computers and relation DBs), laws such as the Patriot Acts and The Real ID Act, there really is no reason to force registration as the Government can simply data mine the names. That is why the DOJ dropped all prosecutions back in 1986 as there is no need to prosecute anyone since if they know you exist, they can simply put your name in the system. While there is no specific laws on auto-registration, The Real ID Act and Patriot Actsgives Selective Service the ability to pull names off of the Nationalized DMV DB.

[@andresduran8002]

Hmmm, this is very useful, thank you

[@amatomic257]

I actually did number 11. I got out(because I hated it)of the Navy March 2022 after seven years & three months. I saw this possibile draft coming from a mile so I completely got out, refused the reserve & waived my SEAWAY application. No IRR time & can't be drafted(service obligation fulfilled). It's too late to take this route now, you gotta be in way before sh*t rolls downhill and join a high survivability branch like the Navy or Air Force.

[@arjunf.2908]

this gonna come in handy rq

[@user-uo8ny1kj4c]

I got flat feet and autism, so the military won't be taking me anytime soon

[@goodliving7671]

I swear this guy time traveled from the future and made this video in the past to avoid KZbin strikes 🤔

[@WertyTT4]

there is only *1* way I can dodge the draft... Which is ofc, getting a essential job, easiest legal way to dodge the draft.

[@dudeman6592]

Does farming count?

[@conductingintomfoolery9163]

@@dudeman6592 the highest commercial job

[@beatcat1265]

what jobs are essential please?

[@Name-de1ij]

break a leg (literally)

[@cooperrmccullough6162]

I kinda need this now

[@chapstickwarrior9277]

I'm here just in case...

[@therealcroissantlord2331]

Get ready boys

[@basilthomas5509]

how to dodge draft:be fat,be slow,act like an animal,then done,you never get in the military

[@angelolagrutta4679]

I looked up my birthday and it was a calculator for the Vietnam war to see if your date would’ve been called I was born in November 24 and it said if my birthday was one day earlier I would’ve been called

[@rockandmetal4life777]

this has become a pressing need

[@swedishdissident3406]

I the 1960s many avoided the draft by not washing for a month.

[@abdlhmdx]

All you need is a to kiss a finger or two goodbye

[@exp721]

If you are in Coast Guard or Merchant Marine, you are in the military. If draft comes, will Gov force you to go to other services - Army, navy,etc

[@andrewbechtol3512]

What happens if you fail the training?

[@janefelix3821]

Why not fail recruiting? Or refuse to sign or claim a disability under ADA? Both would exempt you from service.

[@dudeman6592]

Don't they just make you try again and again until you pass, might want to try insanity like Klinger in M*A*S*H

[@dudeman6592]

Meant to put a question mark not a comma

[@jonathanrequena4361]

So whose here after January 3

[@hidalgopika]

yoooooooooooo this gonna be handy rq

[@stopmotionking49]

Fake being manic being bit crazy

[@jks3849]

Glad to be a man of a certain age as im too old to be drafted

[@seoceancrosser]

There will not be a draft. There will be plenty of honest men to stand up.

[@ericp1139]

seoceancrosser fighting for politicians and corporations makes you honest?

[@janefelix3821]

And women, the military is now around 18% female and probably will be 20% by 2022.

[@JRivera473]

Does having scoliosis prevent you from being drafted?

[@tyhullletttt]

I feel like I just got put on a list for watching this

[@beefygrandpa4682]

Well, thank god I can't be drafted!

[@linkfromzelda1002]

Why?

[@gzw353228652]

What if you get arrested and go to jail

[@Cacowninja]

That would suck for you but it's a lose for them since they don't have a soldier.

[@garrettzucker2894]

What would happen if they legit just cant get a hold of you. Like I'm living off the grid right now in an temp car I bought traveling North America, no registered address aside from my old apartment in Australia which I haven't lived in for a year. My passport is good for another 2 so I'm going to take a ship to Vietnam once this Covid thing lifts in a bit. But how does that work if you just dont have an address or way for the government to contact you. Like I've done a few short term 1 month rentals but that's not legit, thats like a long hotel visit. So if the government just cant contact you, is it illegal. Like I can live however I want, as long as it's not too illegal to get interpol on my ass.

[@dylanisaac1017]

I mean... now they have your email and they know your name, and they know your in a car that you bought (so they could possibly get your license plate by looking at your records) now you have a warrant.

[@janefelix3821]

If you care is registered, chances are it is as all cars with a license plate are registered, then they have your name.

[@Supernaturalfan007]

If I’m correct mental illnesses or disorders are also a way to get out of draft

[@janefelix3821]

Current DoD rules do not take in individuals who suffer from mental illness.

[@beatcat1265]

@@janefelix3821 what mental illnesses disqualify you?

[@janefelix3821]

@@beatcat1265 Anxiety, ADHD, depression, suicide, to name a few. Also, any person on psychotropic medication is ineligible to enlist until they are med-free for 12 months.

[@wcsxwcsx]

You know, the suggestions from this article are from the Vietnam era. There's a lot of outdated stuff here.

[@shotcrib77v56]

What is that micc oomg it's AAMAAAZIING

[@BRKS627]

A person is wealthy and a 1% who rules

[@PeepPeepPoop]

Honest question: Can you elaborate on what you mean here?

[@BRKS627]

@@PeepPeepPoop who control the banks, corporations,the government and the media ect

[@spamaccount8506]

I live right next to the Mexican Border and my parents are immigrants. 😎

[@MrPDTaylor]

You could also move to Ohio to be Amish.

[@schwarkgaming]

More Legal Ways: Chop off your finger

[@janefelix3821]

Why go that route, just claim a disability under ADA and put in in the enlistment papers.

[@Name-de1ij]

I’d prefer to break a leg instead

[@sodalines]

i just never signed up at 18...... most everybody i know didnt either. they cant put us all in jail.

[@janefelix3821]

Chances are if you have either a State ID (DMV) or an SSN you were added, as were your friends. Thus you are in their DB, just you don't know about it.

[@sodalines]

@@janefelix3821 Thats not how it works in my state. They sent a letter out for us to sign. They had a system like that but people made a big deal out of it saying they had the right to choose.

[@janefelix3821]

@@sodalines Starting in 1986 a number of states did what you said with their DMVs when issuing IDs/Licenses. However, in 2005 Congress and President Bush signed into law the Real ID Act of 2005 where all States, in order to be compliant, have to send the Federal Government on a periodic basis the information on all persons issued a State ID/License. From that list the DHS created a DB with approximately 250 million names. Since DHS is Federal and so is Selective Service (SSS), SSS queries the DHS periodically for new records, via the Patriot Acts. While States still make you sign the letter you describe, the information they send to DHS is done automatically as it is a Federal Requirement. Even if you opt out via the letter you mention, the list to DHS is done anyway as that is mandatory and you agree to it if you want a Real ID, otherwise you get a Standard ID which is not valid to board planes, open bank accounts, conduct brokerage/stock transactions, enter a Federal Building.

[@Vantrelltv]

@@sodalines was this recent? Or a few years ago. I just got a letter today saying I needed to register for the selective service and I swear to god I don’t wanna do it at all. Not trying to sign up for my own death.

[@sodalines]

@@Vantrelltv i wouldnt worry about it bro. dont sign up bro if its not in your heart to do so.

[@deborahwhatford9831]

My son is getting an Irish passport. Thankfully, his Grandfather is Irish.

[@janefelix3821]

Almost all of his suggestions were based on the 1968 rules, and given that was more than 50 years ago, chances are they won't be valid today. How many rules from 55+ years ago are still valid? The easiest way is to visit a psychiatrist, and get put on medication for ADHD, anxiety, or depression and thus the DoD can't take you for 12 months. You don't even have to take the medications, just buy a 30-day supply each month. So rather than bring up what was used 50+ years ago, why not use the present. Of course, since the draft ended in 1973 Congress would have to do a major rewrite of the conscription laws and go through legal challenges before anything in enacted, a process that could take 2 years.

[@rostyc]

Thank you

[@dripstein6130]

Needing this now since Russia boutta invade Ukraine 😭

[@chuckmcgillis8160]

Dodge that cold drafty pull

[@codyturner9741]

I work for a company that makes things for the the military maybe i can convince them im more vauleable building things at the company for them than fighting with them

[@respectamerica2382]

You are thinking to hard into this. Just don't register for the selective service . As long as you don't apply for a Federal government job or get and student loans you are good. You will never get drafted.

[@codyturner9741]

@@respectamerica2382 its required for guys to sign up and im not thinking too hard on it though the potenial is high if ppl keep being stupid but hopfully things calm down

[@respectamerica2382]

@@codyturner9741 So if you work a non government private job, or your own business that is even better, and you don't apply for loans or welfare, you are pretty much off the government's radar in this country. And the same for the Income Tax. If you don't File a Tax Return and you fit into the categories above. The chances of you getting caught, is slim to none, unless you get snitched out or you tell on yourself. Keep your mouth shut.

[@codyturner9741]

@@respectamerica2382 what are you smoking?

[@respectamerica2382]

@@codyturner9741 Nothing. I don't do drugs. I just study the law. And you need to understand. There is no central Federal database with all your information. The government and corporations only know what you tell them. But you were conditioned, since public school kindergarten to tell the government everything about yourself. And to worship the SSN like it's God himself. I'm just telling you to shut the hell up, and keep your information to yourself.

[@MikehooksEm]

I just got a paper this morning

[@NightWolfie]

Or just say no they cant take me away without my consent, or even a better pne DONT start the war in the first place just talk it off you dont have to risk many peopls life.

[@arinex1332]

I don't think that's how it works

[@almay9962]

I have neurofibromatosis and high blood pressure

[@tann_man]

To actually be afraid of a draft today is to be ignorant. The following must happen: 1. war to break out 2. conflict serious enough for a draft to be considered 3. congressional legislation reinstating the draft 1. Being the superpower that we are the Iranian government would be fools to pick a fight with the greatest super power of the 21st century. In a fight with our military vs theirs it would be over in hours. They may retaliate in some small form farther increasing tension but Iran should and probably will take a similar strategy to North Korea such that they slowly amass military might & every so often remind the world of their presence with small borderline acts of terror that aren’t catastrophic enough to provoke major foreign intervention. 2. absolutely won’t happen. worst case we end up with a war similar to Afghanistan. 3. No way it’s obviously vastly unpopular Besides the good meme potential of WWIII I find it bewildering anyone would worry about it unironically

[@Seraphim190.]

your ignorant, everything you just said is literally an arrogant statement. you never know aliens might attack tonight and you get drafted tomorrow. no one knows the day or time.

[@n0rbert79]

@@Seraphim190. Don't do drugs please, it's bad for you.

[@Seraphim190.]

@@n0rbert79 Those who don't know me think I'm on drugs. Those who know me think I should be.

[@tann_man]

Seraphim190 The draft isn’t the rapture lol. Based on the fairly peaceful decades we’ve experienced since the end of the cold war the likelihood of an invasion on American soil is maybe .00001%. Sure i agree anything could happen but again the chances are so low it’s not worth worrying about

[@Seraphim190.]

@@tann_man i agree, worrying about it won't add anything...........but the motivation, survival instinct, and anticipation can lead to inspirational and motivational tendencies.. . some people have evolved to leave worry out of the equation altogether and only focus on preparation and anticipation. as for me however it's just entertaining. i live in Australia. (-;

[@steaklover948]

Fleeing to Canada might not work. We could have the draft too.

[@Battlefield1918]

Then go to Mexico

[@formulalance8822]

*flies into Russia and lands in the snow while blending in* “Aw paska Tässä mennään taas”

[@conorransom1267]

I'm a good fan

[@mokushmasmo6009]

I live right below Canada in Montana. I'd deadass rush to the border. Anything but being stuck in the USA

[@janefelix3821]

And what would happen if Canada sends you back?

[@wujek7616]

@@janefelix3821 then it would be couple of steps and he's back in canada lmao

[@janefelix3821]

@@wujek7616 When they send you back it would be with an escort and straight to a Federal indictment in a Federal Court. Maybe he would be ROR, but good luck leaving the country then. Keep in mind the only reason that draft dodgers went to Canada in the 1960s was that in 1964 they elected a Socialist government, and in order to get points with Mao, they took draft dodgers from the USA, despite having a treaty to return them. During the Korean Conflict, 1950-53, a draft dodger would have been returned pronto. So unless you know the future, Canada may not be a wise choice.

[@snake4683]

If yOuR gAy ya dont get drafted? Never mind ill be okay.

[@Jamie-zl6mw]

Thats not a thing anymore

[@jonathanferreira8406]

Won't help you now

[@donmcc6573]

The draft is unconstitutional.

[@notoriousblt1038]

How to avoid the draft legally 10: forgery?

[@theklefkiauthority6504]

Killing is a sin and I am a Christian so if you force me to go to war you are violating my religion if you draft me

[@dylanisaac1017]

Killing in wars isn’t a sin. 😕 So were both screwed

[@1881eagle]

you see Hacksaw Ridge?

[@exp721]

Are drafts for Army only or Air force , Marines, navy also?

[@Γνώστηςτωνγατών]

Army=Armed Forces in this context but the probability is lower than for Army (Land Forces) itself, especially for Air force (I doubt that a simple draftee could be enlisted as a pilot, moreover of contemporary jets like F-22 or F-35, the other thing is the technical support or guarding).

[@SandfordSmythe]

Probably for Army, maybe Marines. The others are full of those avoiding the former.

[@mikeleduc683]

they can draft people up to 40 years of age. 18 to 25 is just the start of it. there no way of get out of it.

[@TheJeferka]

The government is holding the shotgun

[@wardragonprime]

I knew people who avoided serving in Vietnam by enlisting and getting themselves sent to Germany!!!😀😀😀

[@rich_banana5451]

dude this not okay wink wink

[@bmaiceman]

If your not in love with your life on the grid. Just disappear. Live on the fringe...go camping permentally in the deep woods. Fish hunt forage what ever you need to do to stay off the grid.

[@2782Jack]

I couldn't forage enough food to survive, if I had a few years to get some survival training maybe I could.