How to avoid watercooling mistakes with proper planning

[@OzTalksHW]

I'm building my first custom loop PC over the next week and I just want to say that I've binge watched like 10 of your water cooling videos and they're super helpful. Thanks for going so in depth on all of them Jay - keep it up :D

[@daveh8139]

OzTalksHW love watching both of your channels! Keep it up!

[@chrisokelley8337]

just did a build with an XSPC 480 rad. rad arrived with 2 rows of fins smashed down 1/4 an inch, and they wont stand behind their warranty. wont ever buy xspc again.

[@kanuckistanprepper5321]

Hey Oz, wutcha think of my super old hardware peasant rig? :P kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKHbh4mdhraXp5Y

[@stevenwilliams6638]

OzTalksHW your channel rocks bro!

[@danielpage756]

Love your vids Oz. Keep it up man, I root for the small channels especially now with KZbin the way it is. And Merry gol dang Christmas. That's right Christmas not holidays....I know I'm so damn edgy

[@fast.biking_freddy]

JayzTwoCents, 12:55 - Where are the links to the pictures?

[@starlarkyt]

i was looking for it too

[@Killerbear02]

me too

[@llAbandonationll]

D-Frame Malik Customs 2.0 EKWB is most likely the one he's referring to.

[@jeehoondevil]

And it's not the first time he's done this where he says he'll link something in the description but forgets about it lol.

[@tobydion3009]

I was here to find it too, but I guess I'll use my imagination.

[@forgotn42]

If you want the fixtures on the rad at the top, why not see about a short stand off that goes under the reservoir bracket mount? That way, you can get it out further to clear the tubes.

[@phishydom]

Love your videos man, WAY less obnoxious than some of the other content creators in this space. I'm in the middle of fighting with my first dual custom loop build and this helped out.

[@CarlosDeBernardMrAgapi]

Jay singularity computer brackets with protium res there is a video that can help

[@knownuser09]

Best ozzy PC builder. He does amazing work.

[@Darkvoidninja]

Yep I'm saving up for a pump top and res combo when I upgrade my PC

[@Seffyr]

God damn just made this comment, scrolled down and saw yours. I'm absolutely certain that when I have the funds to custom loop my system I'm grabbing Singularity parts for the pump/res combo.

[@nyrakui]

^this

[@Mike-qv3pz]

or use the regular EK pump bracket (so not the vertical one, like in the video) the singularity computers ones looks better but they cost a lot here in shipping alone.. i get it is a premium product but still

[@KillGui007]

Jay, there is an other option. If you move the 'front fanplacement' further in the case and rotate the rad back so the inlet is at the top again you might be able to fit the res in the front like you said at the end. I Think that would look great with the nano fluids

[@kanuckistanprepper5321]

Jay, you are inspiring me more and more every day. I needz to do a custom loop PC :S

[@smurf196uk]

lucky for me i built my own 3d printer last year now it has become a very valuable peace of equipment in my shop i used it for prototyping mainly but my latest custom build pc benefited greatly all my custom brackets cable combs and cable retainers were 3d printed Jay you should really consider investing in a 3d printer being that you specialise in custom builds

[@GucksTV]

You are talking about the edjustability in the front....next you asked yourself how to mount the Reservoir in the front?! :D @JayzTwoCents just move your front rad one step inside the case and mount the Res-Pump in the front! GUYS LIKE THIS! NOT FOR ME BUT TO GET JAY MAYBE ONE STEP FURTHER! ;) Cheers

[@bluepantherofdeath]

Jay thank you for actually making videos like this. I get to learn new stuff and be somewhat entertained. Thank you for not pandering to the lowest common denominator like many other channels have.

[@fbmowner]

Singularity Computers res mounts! Love them

[@aaronseeker]

This dude only use FREE SHIT.

[@nillerxxx]

Yeah the Protium stuff is really nice. Would suit this build. Why always EKWB parts?

[@ResinstanceMike]

Can vouch for this. Their res and mounts are stellar!

[@CriticoolHit]

I remember when that dude was nothing more than silent videos of computer porn years and years ago. Those res mounts sure are sick. Modders like that need to have more say in the development of new shit

[@RealVaderGaming]

Love how you are thinking out loud. Helps me learn how to approach my future build.

[@serpanol]

singularity computers pump and res combo mounting brackets would be the way to go also have you thought about running bottom loop under the rad and coming back up under PSU just a thought

[@3dvisiongamer213]

Nice looking build Jay, remember to keep that positive pressure!

[@ajmmorrow159753]

Use a singularity computer res mount jay, should make mounting it a lot better and they look super nice

[@rickau]

Seeing Jay's mind work gives me a better appreciation for how good some of his loops really are.

[@discostoo]

Singularity computer also paid me to recommend a bracket to you,

[@bobbobo4748]

They basically make the best bracket on the market, already copied by others.

[@Vace]

I was going to say, flip the front rad support around so you can mount the rad out the front with the fans inside. then make a custom support to mount the res on the lowest fan, but you will still be blocking the air flow to the bottom fan by a small amount. Not sure how you feel about that blockage, but that would be a small compromise you could do, to make your system fill with pipes and look really nice! Also with the mountings of the rad on front up top, you will not have to worry about air in your system.

[@Calow727]

You forgot the link to the black and yellow build you mentioned in the video Jay

[@papahandsoap2259]

Love the coloring on that case. Looks like some freakish mix between military and racecar. Can't wait to see how the rest of the build turns out!!!

[@vinnypiazza4851]

That case looks like, with some modifications, you could run soft tubing through the frame so you could use more fluid than normally.

[@SalvationActual]

Vinny Piazza what case is that?

[@jessevanmourik3437]

I recently built my first watercooled pc, all hardtubes. it was a lot of work, expecially because I got 2 broken radiators (one which the threading was not intact so that leaked and the second one had an inner leak, I wouldve expected more of a 100$+ rad from alphacool, decided to go for a phobya, works like a charm) mbut it was a lot of fun and was inspired by you, I even got the cougar case.

[@kamiuszek]

check singularitypc res, they look better and they have other mountings, mayby something will fit

[@Xearin]

Great video. From what I see, definately mount it to the back wall. Maybe to give it a unique look: space the tube of the reservoir to the middle of the radiator, and then with two soft curves let the tubes run around the reservoir on each side to the respective components. Just an idea here.

[@20GeneStarwind20]

Hey Jay why dont you get a different braket like a Singularity Computers res mount then you can agust the hight of the res to where it would fit? www.performance-pcs.com/singularity-computers-reservoir-mount-core-single-v3-green.html

[@terryblanchard4929]

Fantastic case Jay. I would have had reservoir behind air intake fan at front and radiator at bottom, as intake will reduce temperature of reservoir even more rather than increasing temp of device and liquid it if it were behind a radiator. Look forward to final build.

[@paulziegler3558]

Look up singularity computers ethereal pump mounts man daniel has run into this very problem many times...also hardware labs makes a couple different cross flow rads that could possibly make your tubing routing a bit easier.

[@bradleyhoselton4325]

Why not get an additional 360 bracket for the horizontal run? Then on the horizontal run sandwich the bracket with the fans hidden on the bottom allowing for more room for the pump mounted on the vertical. Could also go as far as sandwiching both horizontal and vertical radiators making for much more room.

[@TheJjjoj]

Check out Singularity Computers' Reservoir Mounts and possibly their pump/res combos. They are worth it. If you don't want that, you can always use Barrow or Bitspower mounting mechanisms. There is just no reason to complain or get even mildly frustrated about fit when using what is probably the worst reservoir mount on the market.

[@JoeJacksonJr]

Jay put your 360 bracket back on bottom, take the two 120 brackets and put them back up. Space them out for 240 rad and to the inside above the bottom 360 rad. Then put the side 360 rad on the brackets. That will give you clearance to put the res lower in to the case. It may look funny towards the outside though.. But it would be unique..

[@DavoSayco]

Get a pump res combo fan mount from singularity computers

[@JoeJacksonJr]

Hey Jay, have you ever thought about pressure testing you loops? Like pulling a vacuum on a loop with a pressure gage and see if the vacuum holds. This would be a great way to feel safe(er) about building water loops..

[@benjaminbarron2281]

you should mount the res on the top bracket and make it go out of the case, that would look cool.

[@RobinJamesEricBond]

I agree about the vertical pump/res mount from ek, I flipped mine upside down to fit the pump on the "upper" of the two fans on my 240mm radiator. Otherwise it would not have enough clearance to the top radiator and fans.

[@PyroBlock]

just get a singularity computers pump bracket so you're not wasting so much space.

[@strider1289]

Thanks for this video Jay..!! Can't wait for part 2. Please show how you measure your tubes for cuts and bends.. Thanks again..

[@Incubyss]

+JayzTwoCents I hear you on the EK bracket. I always thought it looked clunky and not that aesthetically pleasing. Have you considered using Singularity Computers Pump'/Res combo with their mounting brackets? It will give you a lot more flexibility!

[@brandonosborne6894]

Green VUE fluid for sure. That would look awesome!

[@jadenwebb8651]

Brandon Osborne yes that would be a must have!! ;)

[@smarquez42]

What the fuck is going on with the "buy singularity shit" in the comments section? Weird stuff going on...

[@iaial0]

zioNNN' It's a guy which has started as a PC builder and now makes watercooling parts as reservoirs, mountings...

[@technomen0872]

zioNNN' kinda seems like he uses somethin shady for advertising... No way this Happens randomly

[@susDane]

zioNNN' I think it's also weird, but wondering if it might have been a bit machined by viewers liking and feeding to top on KZbin's algorithm

[@dkis8730]

Hungry Joe Found the bot LMAO

[@technomen0872]

the company is kinda overdoing the botting though so they wont get anything aoutta it..

[@stormagheddondarklordofall7171]

Mount it horizontal on the top fan space of the front Rad so it covers over the inside of the IO shield. Like how you were going to mount it to the bottom fans.

[@m0rtl]

You could try the Reservoir mounts from singularity computers. They kinda look like car clamps

[@m0rtl]

Edit: You could use 2 of them mount them in the middle spots of the 360 push the res up a bit and drop the EK holder/bracket altogether

[@Max_Money_AWA]

Great stuff! If I ever water-cool in the future, it will not be pretty. Soft-tubing and a solid side panel would be just fine for me.

[@elitose]

Jays biggest mistake is not using Singularity Computers parts. They're worth paying out of pocket. Not everything needs a sponsor.

[@DrOrtmeyer]

I have to be honest, SC parts are just some of the most expensive parts, it makes them harder to justify.

[@elitose]

The quality of the parts, the build experience they offer, and their unique aesthetic is what justifies their cost. It's no different than the reasons many of us choose Bitspower fittings despite their high cost.

[@robodog7610]

If EVGA every makes custom watercooling parts, i can bet Jay will use them.

[@mattw3406]

His head is too big these days. Hell even Bitwit Kyle is at the same level as he is now and he's only built 2 custom loop PC's. Jay step up your game dude, you should be much better than this straight- sponsor shit.

[@Van-yo2xr]

Elias Montejano bitspower fittings are some of the worst looking IMO. You have to powder coat them yourself because the color selection is atrocious and the logo is 🤢

[@matthewhoffman7082]

You drive me closer and closer towards custom looping my next build... but with soft tubing, because I'm not prepared to work with hard.

[@IamAshL]

Get a singularity computers reservoir it would be perfect

[@peanut-gallery-comments]

Finish round 1 of my custom loop, tube came off graphics card during bleeding the air out of the loop. Learned to secure fittings better, and not to turn on electronics that are wet. Long story short, I'm not deterred but definitely stressed because the pump doesn't run now hooked up to a dry power supply.

[@mark22732]

Holy shit, we get it, Singularity makes stuff. Not everyone wants it or needs it.

[@colinjava8447]

Yeah the price was a bit ridiculous I thought, although it was well made. I built my own from steel and sprayed it black. You can make loads of things with metal and perspex and paint, and save lots of cash. Could make a reservoir too, but I just bought one as they are hard to build.

[@mark22732]

Its not just the price, its that I'm literally reading a page of comments where 5 out of the 10 comments are "singularity computer blah blah blah." Yeah, they're a decent company but when 3-4 other people have already put that comment in, why do some people feel the need to fill up the comments with more trash?

[@colinjava8447]

Well everyone wants to have their say and sound like they are experts, which some will be. But I agree theres no need to repeat it after its been said a million times. He could also just build a bracket, if he really wanted something to match his requirements.

[@TheJjjoj]

It's likely a matter of commenting before reading, as was the case for me. I was watching the video and it was making me cringe so I just commented. Once I looked at comments, I realized how useless it was.

[@bowman8045]

Don't have much for suggestions, but would like to see it when it's done. Thanks again for video Jayz.

[@penisboy97]

You should try singularity

[@allensatterfield7626]

I have to agree with everyone singularity computers mounts are a very good alternative for a reservoir mounts. I have one mounted to my radiator a reservoir and i love it.

[@TheBirells]

Jay, maybe the Reservoir Mount: Ethereal Single from Singularity Computers can solve your problem...

[@mastrtyle]

Jay ! Flip that rad back so the fittings are on the top, then slide the rad/fan bracket a little more to the left and you could probably fit the res on the other side of the rad

[@MaTtRoSiTy]

Bit of a niche product though. Not many people have the money or want to spend so much on cooling even if they do. Custom loops are extremely poor value for money and ultimately are much more of a hassle. Not my kinda thing at all, I am too lazy and cheap and just go for AIO stuff...

[@Jayztwocents]

Cool story

[@socialkruption]

someone mad

[@socialkruption]

"I don't like this person's comment so I'll call him a welfare bum" The absolute state of /v/idiots.

[@Aereto]

MaTtRoSiTy I would consider custom water cooling if heat distribution is incorporated into design, especially in either builds in warmer climates, or builds that have more restrictive airflow, using it with consistent operation that need consistent temperature. Since I live in more temperate climates, I use aircooling to take the most advantage of the cool or winter air.

[@Zalle335]

Just so you know Jay, about the pump, you can like twist it to "choose" where your outlets and inlets are pointing! :) Did my first wc build with that pump res combo

[@Jayztwocents]

Yes I’m aware.... that isn’t the issue

[@Zalle335]

JayzTwoCents okay sorry! But I've got an idea (maybe really stupid) but won't you be able to create a bracket or a small plastic piece that is mounted in the cable routing hole? (Bottom one by the motherboards top) and that should give you more clearence on the front rad as well then?

[@klmopification]

check out watercooling products from www.singularitycomputers.com/. he has a channel with builds too, pretty good! i think it will help your build!

[@peanut-gallery-comments]

This is perfect, I am doing my first custom loop later today!

[@Mitsuolevel]

Loop order it doesn’t matter guys get over it

[@hoover8638]

toyotarocks9 kinda does

[@wyattmathis4854]

Ya it does

[@Mitsuolevel]

No it doesn’t, heat distributes through out the loop evenly

[@TreyMotes]

LOL These clowns are STILL claiming loop order matters? Jesus...

[@pirobot668beta]

Flow rate = 360 L/hour, typical of actual usage custom loop. That puts about 100 mL/sec through any part of the loop. One liter in ten seconds. It would take about 400 watts of thermal energy to realize a 1 degree C rise in coolant flowing at this rate. [4.18 watts to raise 1 mL of water one degree C] A 1080 class 2x SLI, at full loading, might see a 1.5 degree C rise in coolant temps. A high core count CPU can throw down 300 or so watts, so that adds almost a degree. My point? If your loop has a 5+ degree rise in coolant temps on any one block, check your pump! There is no way any one device can throw enough heat to negatively affect 'downstream' devices. If your ultra-atomic whizz-bang is a hot-house flower, and can only run at some narrow range of temps, buy something better!

[@jacobseime9923]

With how open that chassis is, I think one of the darker green Primochill Vue colors would look sick in that build.

[@pdroa6666]

holy shit why is everyone spamming this singularity pc stuff are you guys getting paid or something?

[@amp4105]

Bot accounts probably

[@dkis8730]

NAME that's what I was thinking

[@Hebdomad7]

Actually Singularity Computers is another KZbin channel. This is what happens when channels collide in the KZbin's pipes.

[@evilgod3400]

Because Singularity bracket mounts looks much much way better then EK

[@MrSaxbaam20]

Mount the res to the motherboard tray using some sort of spacer, that will clear up some space for the front radiator ports (if mounted with ports on top). Allowing you to run one tube from behind the res to the mono-block on the motherboard.

[@steve5078]

Singularity computers make cool res brackets for radiators

[@vetern7929]

Jay, have you thought about different reservoir brackets? Like Singularity Computers’ Etherium or similar, to grab the tube itself and add a little more modularity to where you can mount it? Just a thought! Excited for the finished build!

[@jandkwhite6459]

You should try singularity computers parts

[@abyssalreclass]

That bracket works a lot better for DDC pumps. The pump mounts directly to the bottom part that sticks out. I think they make one specific for the D5 pumps without the bottom part of that bracket.

[@Hamjr193]

This is why you're my favorite tech youtuber

[@cmpoirot1]

Hey Jay, you should make a spacer for the reservoir such that you can run the front 360 in the orientation that you want with one tube going behind the reservoir and one in front

[@bachmannmanuel1562]

Whaaaa, what a cool Case.... Can't wait to see how it looks like when its finished....

[@THE-MAD-TECHIE]

I would do the res on the back as you said but create a spacer to pull the res away from the back wall some, so if needed you could run a tube behind the res.

[@rambo2punt0]

The case has a lot of triangles in it, you could try and extend that pattern into the watercooling stuff with the tubing and possibly also the reservior/pump combo

[@bigblob1030]

You should mount the pump horizontally with the bracket bolted to the lowest or middle fan on the radiator on the right. You would be mounting the bracket the same way as when you tried it vertically mounted from the bottom right fan.

[@ConceptProductions80]

carbon fibre wrapped accents with green view fluid... glass tubes... no bends, just really nice fittings

[@rnvmp330]

Jay, what can I say. If anyone ever taught me how to custom loop a PC I gotta give you the credit, where you said it. BTW this chassis is a beast, just like Koenigsegg 😉

[@BeckerHomesteadKY]

I know this goes against everything you do with watercooling but the bottom rad you could always mount just 2 fans under it and have the fan curve slightly higher to compensate. That would give you the clearance you need.

[@AndreChaosweapon]

put the fans of the bottom rad bellow the rad and you have the clearance needed and you can put the reservoir mounted horizontaly above the bottom rad or maybe put the 240mm rad in the left side near the tubes of the structure

[@chrisgiroux9356]

Just saying give singularity computers protium reservoir and mounts love I was using same exact EK bracket and singularity's solved all the issues. Their resevoir and pump top are all so well made and well thought out, unlike the EK stuff. Will make all that you want to do possible

[@NMan944]

I am so excited for this build. I love custom builds designed around someone's other hobbies like cars or music. Theme builds that go above and beyond functionality but melding it with a cohesive aesthetic really inspire me. I have been wanting to build a computer in an amp for music friends, has anyone done this or seen good instances of it?

[@Sneakyfool101]

Would really be cool if you ran the tubing thru the tubes on the frame of the case. To make it appears as if the whole case was cooling. Really excited to see how the build turns out. also EKWB makes a spider bracket would mount to the bottom 360 rad and look very clean

[@sentinel0512]

This is great timeing jay iam trying to do a loop for the first time wish me luck

[@SheriffOfRockRidge]

Hey Jay, great vid as usual. I'm actually planning to do a custom liquid cooling loop--I'm in the process of taking measurements and researching parts to see what will fit. I love my S340 Elite case, but this will be a bit of a challenge...

[@GiulioBerti]

I think that if you put rgb lights in the tubing while passing them at the bottom would be pretty cool as they could mimic bottom neons!

[@marcusschmidt5103]

for the rad mounting in the back,use spacers! so you can mount the reservoir in the middle of the front rad without disturbing the in and out of the rad! sorry for my bad englisch:-)

[@gigabitpc3597]

I have been watching some of your early videos from 2012. Man why did I not discover your channel back then. Thats when I really got started building custom PC's. Your older videos were a lot funnier IMO.

[@andromydous]

Can't wait to see the next progress on this. I think I will stick to AIO's. I don't have planning skills like you do.

[@VR6DAMIT]

Jay, you should use a different bracket if you really want to mount the res to the rad. Take a look at Singularity Computers Ethereal res mount or get one of their rad mounting rails. That way you could get the exact height you want with the res/pump mounted there.

[@hippyhappyhippo]

Jay, the D-force logo plate, you have to get a custom plate made to replace that. It would look cool AF.

[@leetymcleet6490]

This build is gonna be siiick

[@objinformation]

@JayzTwoCents, I feel like you have the skills required to haxor up that bracket and put it back together / repainting it, to make your ideas actually work. Hell JB Weld would work just fine if you cut it nice and clean and goop it on the inside of the bracket. It would be well hidden unless you are looking for it and I bet you could even use a "Grout Style" tool to round the JB weld to make it look nice. I have faith in you to try it! Do not let that bracket beat you on this dream case of yours! Good luck Sir!

[@Utheriss]

Flip the front rad around, go to your local hardware store, get longer screws that will fit that bracket. use washers to space the bracket out so you can get the pipes to run on the outside of the reservior

[@clearmind89]

That green fluid that you showed a few videos ago would be amazing to see I think

[@rexlupis]

For the future you should look into Singularity Computer's reservoir mount. It seems to be exactly the sort of design you were asking for in this video.

[@jeremyleblanc2923]

you should do a complete cable management video on your custom build when you get to that stage

[@magrudergrinder23]

If there is a lime green Primochill Vue liquid, you HAVE to use that for this build. That would look amazing.

[@claytondickerson9770]

Love your videos! I don't have a water-cooled set up, but I lurk here all the time. Maybe one day...

[@zachscheunemann]

Well this eases the nerves a small bit for doing my own custom loop

[@crhodes0302]

I should have read a few lines lower than I would have seen the Singularity Computers reference. I'm surprised that you haven't done any builds with his products! I just completed my first custom water loop using EK mono block using and an Asus Rampage VI Apex X299 motherboard and EK cooling loop for my 1080TI graphics card. I used the Singularity Computers REZ and mounting kit form my build.

[@TheRealObiWahn]

Well if the fans fit underneath the horizontal radiator bracket, you could cut the two interferring pieces of the brackets off, mount the fans underneath (if they fit) and could mount the reservoir on the vertical radiator (if possible). Maybe then would it would even be possible to have the outlets of the vertical radiator on top...

[@Deedaz]

Try a monsoon res, their radiator mount is VERY adjustable and looks much better imo.

[@daddyesco2191]

Jay Have you thought about moving the front bracket forward and mounting the pump/res in the front of the Rad. Seems like it would fit. this way you can run the loops under the bracket like an Exhaust.

[@matthewtrott]

I am so glad you did this, I was just thinking earlier today that a video like this was missing

[@raulgrangeiro]

I liked this case. I think the water reservatory could be there, between motherboard and radiator, it looks nice to me and probably the best it could be.