How to Backside 50-50

[@chriss.1593]

One small bit of advice I would add...try to envision your hips and shoulders landing on the same vertical plane as the edge you are grinding. I often see people learning this trick, and they get their back truck on, but their front truck misses a bit. Usually this is because the hips/shoulders are not fully “lined up” with edge you are grinding-and your feet / board will follow the direction your hips (and shoulders) are pointed, so you want to make sure that is on the same plane as your board/trucks/ledge.

[@noahjohnston2577]

thanks thats the problem ive been having.

[@csedition]

Hope it helps!

[@isrv]

Thanks yo will keep that in mind

[@Donewithyou]

Dude thank you ive been tryin this for over am hour the most annoying part is i had this trick then I switched boards and lost it

[@TreyyDaMenaceFan]

Thanks got them after reading your advice

[@Residual.Selfimage]

Aim to land the front truck first and then set down the back truck. I've actually taught a few people the trick to to this trick when I saw they were having the same problem I was having when I was learning them. The front truck would miss and they'd end up in some weird feeble or slip into a boardslide and bail. The way I fixed this was to aim for the front truck first and then sort of pivot the back truck on. This not only achieves the lock in with both trucks but forces the correct body alignment.

[@trapgodmoon8516]

Great tip I’m going to use this 🤲

[@mxxiii3792]

Truth!

[@chrispalomarr]

I do this but I can never put my back truck down and I try to sit back and put all my weight on my back foot, but end up getting into a nose grind

[@wesktit5225]

I always do it like a Ollie than axel stall

[@YungPop]

Thanks this should help me in my next session

[@likehell1]

You have geriatric skateboarder ESP. I've set tailslides, back 50's and heelflips as my three "get back" tricks and was sorely disappointed by the back 50 tips on KZbin. Was literally thinking "I hope Ben D.G. posts a trick tip on backside 50-50's" and you've delivered. Bonus points for crooks on that insane ledge at the end!

[@goldleader6169]

man were like same but opposite im doin noseslides , crooks and kickflips !!

[@ariekanibalie]

If you're just learning these, maybe first try to ollie up a curb backside, clearing the edge altogether. This will teach you the slight backside tweak you give your ollie when popping up something behind you, and once you can do that just start aiming for the edge.

[@bendegros]

Arno Theadorno thats good advice.

[@IntergalacticMath]

My favorite Canadian KZbinr!

[@zhou_sei]

even before nilered

[@vangoghsear8657]

Best run-down for me thus far, thanks man.

[@evanpena4393]

If your trying to learn back 50s try landing on your front trucks it makes it way easier

[@Qhaon]

Every time I try I land in like a willy grind or a nose grind and I can't get my back trucks on

[@P_i_F_e_N_n]

so true. that's the key

[@SillagorillaSkates]

I really like your tutorials.. Your boardslide one gave me confidence to try them again.. they're not great but I can do a short one now

[@bendegros]

Yew!! I'm glad they help:) I have been spending too much on skate gear and am getting tired of switching trucks all the time so I will be focusing on some more tutorials for a bit.

[@pinheaddylan3192]

Ben Degros do a tre flip trick tip

[@crazybiscut]

Dam that back tail was textbook

[@James-ip5gz]

1 minute in and already solid gold advice. Thanks!

[@DerpyNarwhalz]

I just landed it after 5 yrs of skating, feels amazing

[@SakosTechSpot]

You give me hope. I've been practicing these for about a year and can't get my back truck on.

[@josephsantana3094]

I used to be a natural at bs 50-50s in my early teens. Could add tricks into and out of them and also had bs feebles and 5-0s pretty locked. Now coming back to skateboarding after 10 years I cannot bs 50-50 if my life depended on it. For some reason it just feels so awkward ollieing into it now. I can't pop the ollie and shifty the board into position to position to land in a 50-50 I either land in a weird crooked grind somehow or just miss the ledge entirely from trying to do the slight shifty to get both trucks onto the ledge I end up turning away from the ledge. So frustrating.

[@ryanmccarthy678]

That Park is siiick

[@Shhhring]

Someone once said to kind of look for your back foot to get on which is good because it makes you bring your hip in line w the ledge

[@johnprice5457]

love the look of satisfaction after the krooked grind , observing the trucks.. lol

[@nickkilislian2877]

You are a very good teacher! Thanks for these tips.🙏

[@victorgagnon1274]

I’m getting watched… just landed that tricks yesterday and now it’s recommended

[@gromitmitten7803]

You are a god send 😁 thanks for the tips Ben!

[@bendegros]

Tyrone Davenport your welcome:)

[@iconic_filmdirectors]

Dude, you r so inspiring person! Love to watch your tips! Greetings from shores of Baikal!

[@bendegros]

Thank you:)

[@victorchavez7836]

Your videos are great Ben. I’ll be trying your b/s grind tips today ✌️

[@ashton35]

Round rails are terrifying dude. Don't think I'll ever skate one

[@GoofyPoptart]

Same man I don't fuck with that type of skating.

[@benjaminpoirier6297]

Yuri Lopes I have only landed frontside 5050 on a ledge and I never tried it yet on a rail. I find what is so hard with the backside 5050 is how to ollie up the curb from backside. I find a 5-0 is even more sicker on a rail than a 5050 and what is good about the 5-0 is that you only need to lock in your back truck. Just like with the 5050 on a ledge when your board does the overshoot on top, it is the same as someone trying to 5-0 on a ledge and when the 5-0 overshoots you have a manual instead which is similar to the 5-0. I tried boneless to 5-0 on a curb and it is fun. It is hard for it to grind but I’m getting the boneless to 5-0 position. A couple of times when I tried boneless to 5-0 the board did the overshoot so then I got boneless to manual. I find 5-0 is better than manual because it is easy to go off from the position of the 5-0 because it is locked in.

[@vegask8783]

it’s been a year, how are u on them now?

[@benjaminpoirier6297]

_vega_ sk8_ I have not skated in a week. The skatepark is still covered in snow so I can only go on the street. I can only do flat ground on the street

[@NamNguyen-xu6rx]

they’re fun bro it’s scary at first but after a while u just don’t care

[@heartshapedfilms]

As a kid me and my mates made a box with some coping on just a pallet. But when I tried bs fifties I would actually come from front side and Ollie over to a bs fifty. And then just move more and move bs until it felt more normal though I think I was never to confident as I'd be Ollie more straight and never got with the angle that you approach. Seems like a good tip

[@1844w111]

Thanks for this one Ben!

[@edkickflip628]

Your videos are really helpful and funny. Thanks for makin em !

[@genyafull7395]

Soooo stoked to see the skate park I know in tutorial video

[@SuperDanimal77]

30 degree angle of approach and try line up your shoulders with the edge of the ledge

[@bryanskytes]

Finally it just clicked after seeing this video got them very butter thanks!!!

[@JayyBlaze216]

Thanks been I remember asking you about this on another vid

[@bendegros]

KillaKami there has been a few requests for backside tricks so I thought it was time.

[@EazyDoor]

4:58 Mother of crunch

[@Pat_Gunter]

Are you using low-trucks with riser-pads here?? I find this such a challenging trick. Gotto fight to keep this in my bag, as I get older. You love your old crusty ledges, Ben.

[@randomdogger5278]

Lmao at the unwaxed ledge part. 😂

[@MrDrop11]

I learned EVERYTHING on un waxed curbs lol. We didn't know about wax back then. It SUCKED. You had to HAUL BUTT and hope you didn't turn into super man flying though the air.

[@williambo5989]

i like crunchy grinds!

[@TimoTrials]

This really helped me

[@TimoTrials]

I used to be subscribed idk why I’m not anymore so I re-subscribed

[@AustinHartwig]

I'm sure this video will help a lot of people

[@skatertrash4205]

I like this 1

[@liamdoes8580]

Wrong kind of backside 50/50 but looks cool so I watched anyway

[@Dav2112]

Really good channel you have here man, super helpful tips. I’m in my late 30’s and have been off and on boards since the late 80’s, I was never really big on flip tricks though it’s mostly because I find them really difficult, I skate transition for the fun of it, even on ramps my tricks are very limited to basic lip tricks and simple early grabs that barely shoot me over the coping!! 😂 I can’t do back 50’s at all, no matter how much I try them, frontside is fine though except for flatbars that are round, I can’t seem to hold any balance on those at all and always slip out on them. 😞

[@Fanaz10]

well you probably give up too quick, just try harder

[@Dav2112]

@@Fanaz10 and who are you?? You're so good at back 50-50's that you came on KZbin to watch back 50 tutorial videos, then comment and tell an old man who came from a transition skating background in the late 80s that they should try harder... Jog on man.

[@Fanaz10]

@@Dav2112 LMAO, calls OP an old man, attacks me for giving advice, way to go bruh. He said it himself - he finds flip tricks too difficult, then he ALSO finds back 5050s too difficult, and that's why he skates transition. Don't be a bitch, try harder, and you'll get it eventually.

[@Dav2112]

@@Fanaz10 you do realise I am the OP of this comment, and the old man I'm referring to is myself? back 50s on rails I can't do, and I struggled with flip tricks because I was never a 'street skater', what is it that's too hard for you to understand here? Grinding a rail is a lot harder than grinding the coping on the ramp, at least I have the ramp deck to balance on, I can't do them on rails because I can't balance them, I've been on and off boards for years mate, I never took it fully serious, I learned basic ramp tricks and had fun with it. Skateboarding is about having fun and I had plenty of fun doing it throughout the years.

[@Fanaz10]

@@Dav2112 aight dude, I get you're all about fun, nothing wrong with that, just don't go around whining you can't bs 5050s. btw, thought we were talking about bs 5050s in general and not round rails, that's a whole another level.

[@lilepic4353]

for this i subscribe

[@tenzichoeyin1188]

Thanks BD

[@birdman4birdlegs]

I know it's an old video. But is 5:00 the ledge that wade fyfe did that nose manny on in North?

[@charlottekay772]

I can do crooked grinds but have yet to learn bs 50-50’s lol it’s nice to see people in the comments saying to try landing with your front truck first as thats what im most comfortable with. Gonna try these now.🙌🏼

[@plantlover69]

Hey, if you have time could you please do a fs smith on ledge tutorial? Thanks

[@rhysmason5289]

Thanks Ben

[@skygate5427]

thanks 4 the tips (:

[@AlbertoSantosSalidocisneros]

Shock pads or risepad on thunder?

[@ZZZ-0999]

Some tips for 50-50s on rails??? Please help me!!

[@benjaminpoirier6297]

I am not able to ollie backside onto something and I need help learning it. I can frontside 5050 but I want to one day learn how to backside 5050. When I try to backside 180 on flat I keep turning 90 degrees. I can fake backside 180 on flat but in normal I need help. A few times I tried backside 180 in normal I fell. I find it scary ollieing into a backside 5050.

[@christo24]

I know this is unrelated to the video but can you make a review on ricta pro nrg wheels?

[@bendegros]

Christian Lopez it might be a while before I do another wheel review but I will keep them in mind.

[@salfromthego]

Can you do a tutorial on how to kickflip over an obstacle?

[@avery94onabase]

just keep doing kickflips bro. you'll get there. it sounds stupid but literally keep doing them repeatedly and practicing the flick with a lot of friction so the nose dips in the air. the trick is to figure out how to get a lot of friction when you flick - flick super hard, not super fast

[@p6134]

That my local park 😂

[@Helikopterpop]

I had those locked in the early 2000 and I used to to backside fiveohs too. But one day I accidently hit the backwheel on the edge of the curb so that the board didnt come up. And that made me fall down like a flip with my body over the whole ledge. And then I tried it again right after and did the exact same bail. Since then I have build this crazy mental blockage of that trick and it bothers me.

[@beezy785]

I have a similar mental block with this trick. Just curious did you ever get over it?

[@elijahefg5503]

Eyyyy ambleside VANCOUVER

[@ogsxl]

pls do hubba tutorial ty

[@bendegros]

I'm no good at them. That was the first one I have done in ages.

[@agoodun]

Out of the question. Never gonna do em again

[@princebustor]

Been skating for 20 years and I've never felt stable on them

[@4yushb528]

You really look like feedback ts, the instagram clip reviewer

[@bendegros]

Ayush Baatar thats not the first time I have heard that.

[@bartieshaw]

which park is this?

[@bendegros]

Ambleside. West Vancouver.

[@ethanjusuf4771]

I learnt crooks and I still can’t back 50

[@MrBitsilly]

0:10 look in the upper right corner of the frame, UFO? Haha

[@dogdog1488]

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