How to Beat an Internal Candidate in a Job Interview

[@andylacivita]

Folks, I hope you enjoy this video on how to beat those internal candidates who are standing in the way of YOUR job! And, don't forget, please SUBSCRIBE to my channel for new videos weekly and Live Office Hours on Thursdays! You can also check the milewalk Academy calendar here to see when I'm live on KZbin as well as my other special live events! www.milewalkacademy.com/calendar

[@dransom5821]

I used your resume checklist and had 3 interviews in one month and now one on the 9th of this month as a Tech Representative. I am hopeful, my major is computers and I go for companies with great workforce awards and benefits. I wish you health and happiness and pray you to continue to do what you do WE NEED YOU! This isn't taught in detail in public schools or even at all. You are helping the disadvantaged keep up with those who already have an advantage. Thanks a million!

[@NanceeMarin]

I'm an internal candidate right now, but this is helpful too just in case I'm up against external candidates who have better qualifications. Well, the same applies to other internal candidates too.

[@andylacivita]

GO GET 'EM NLM!

[@randomdude93-93]

I didn't ask if there were internal candidates because a part of me didn't want to know. I feel like even if they tell me, there is no saying they have a preference for me or another candidate over their internal person. At the end of the day, the internal consideration throughout the process feels like a slap in the face for all the hard work one puts into the entire process.

[@halfhawkhalfman]

One other recommendation when competing against an internal candidate: continue to refer to yourself as somebody who could help the company "expand their horizons past the current status quo", listing some possible examples where the "new experience and fresh eyes" you'd bring to the role could help the company reach their goals sooner (or better in some way) - rather than them just filling the role with an internal candidate who'll NOT have as many fresh ideas you would have as the external candidate.

[@andylacivita]

Good points.

[@EmmaDee]

Dang wish I would have seen this last August!! Although the employer has since said that they wish they would have hired me back then. Andy, you are my favorite, most enjoyable career source, mentor, motivator in the world!! With that being said, I’m about to share you with a friend and I’m really stingy with my Andy!! Hoping she learns as much from you as I have.

[@andylacivita]

Amy D!!! Your'e such a dear. There's enough of me to go around. I am a huge fan of the abundance theory. 😉

[@EmmaDee]

Andrew LaCivita I shared Andy!! Dang it, I shared!! The lady I’m sharing with is worthy because I’m selective about who I share my Andy with!!! LOL!! Hope you are doing well, I’m six month in with my new job and LOVING it!! I feel blessed to work with such a wonderful company. Take care Andy!!

[@andylacivita]

@@EmmaDee Amy! The MORE you share the MORE love you get back! And, glad you are having fun with your company!

[@kolemieux]

Andy I want to thank you for this session and actually was listening live on the day of a final live - out of town interview and posted a question which you answered. The net is I am GETTING CRUSHED by internal candidates - CRUSHED. And with that I consider myself to be a very strong leadership candidate. I also sadly fall in that damn age gap as well as being out of work gap. I am sadly in a bad place and have been giving it all I have and do have a strong network as well.

[@andylacivita]

Hang in there my friend. Keep positive whatever happens. I know a great job and company is out there if you keep at it.

[@Patslifesjourney]

I have a schedule job-interview from my current company next week. They hired me as an Inventory Staff Accountant 7 months ago but I am more interested as a Staff Accountant in the accounting department. Andrew’s videos helped me land and successfully negotiated a salary increase to what the company is offering. Hopefully, everything goes well again to my game plan.

[@andylacivita]

Good luck Pat!! 🍀

[@SportsIncorporated]

I've been watching a number of these interview preparation videos. Maybe it's because I'm an old man. So much time and energy goes into the preparation for these interviews. And so much time is spent in the job search. I couldn't imagine having the energy do anything once you finally get the job.

[@andylacivita]

😂

[@SportsIncorporated]

@@andylacivita I'm trying to make it easier. jobs.

[@luuvjonz1]

I've binged watched all your videos and they helped me prepare for an internal interview for a Supervisory role. I felt very confident going in and just like to say thank you for providing such valuable information and guidance. Now I'm waiting to hear if I was selected.

[@andylacivita]

You are so welcome and I'm sending you good vibes and good luck in hopes you get it!!

[@luuvjonz1]

@@andylacivita Thanks so much!

[@jhh70]

Fours times I have been told they went with a less qualified internal candidate because the costs are too high in bringing on a new employee.

[@andylacivita]

This is a brutal reality my friend. Hang in there and do whatever you can to apply the tactics from this video and the others I've shared on interviewing. It'll happen for you. I know it!!!!

[@tech4ever1]

Love love love your videos by the way! I always tell friends to check out your stuff when they are job hunting

[@andylacivita]

great to hear it. thank you!

[@brendaechols5929]

I lost out to two internals at 2 different companies i interviewed for. One told me they decided on the internal. Second job, they had already decided they were going to hire the internal before i interviewed. So basically, both places already knew they were hiring the internal . I was there just to meet their quota ! I was furious 😡

[@raechaud7763]

Today is the 3rd time I’m beaten by internal candidate this year.. but the manager told me to apply for another role, nothing guaranteed but I’ll try harrrrrrd. Thank you Andy :)

[@andylacivita]

You got this!

[@raechaud7763]

Andrew LaCivita Andy, I got it! Offer came in better than I wanted so didn’t even negotiate anything. You are awwwwwwwesooooome!

[@andylacivita]

@@raechaud7763 YAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSS!! Yeah Yeah Yeah!!! So great to hear it RAE! You deserve it and huge congrats!

[@albertc2390]

Respectfully, I disagree with step 0. Asking if there are any internal candidates conveys a defeatist attitude. By asking that, you are essentially asking if you are at a handicap. It signals that 1) You know internal candidates have an advantage or 2) You have a history of getting beaten by an internal candidate. I wouldn't advise asking if there are any candidates. What does it matter? You have to give it your all regardless. If the recruiter or hiring manager says yes, do you drop out of the race? What if another position opens up? They will not consider you.

[@2steaksandwiches665]

I get your point and that’s why I have not done it in the past but I’m sort of getting The balls to just ask in the future. I’ve wasted 20 hours on interviews this year alone. Just to lose out to an internal candidate. I hate the companies have a policy about interviewing external people. They have no plans to hire Externally. I bet you it’s a 30% chance in most situations.

[@skarlitrose4705]

This video is great! I’m using this to help me actually beat EXTERNAL candidates with possibly more experience than me since I am an internal candidate. Interview is tomorrow. Hoping I can show them they want me over the “new shinies” lol

[@andylacivita]

Good luck with the interviews!!!

[@just_a_childowo3855]

Hi Andy, could you please shoot a video about the resume for internal position? What would it be different from the Ultimate resume template? Thanks

[@lenkakrivankova]

Hello Andy, thank you for the tips! I like your videos, very useful! Many regards from the Czech Republic! Lenka

[@andylacivita]

Lenka Křivánková thanks much Lenka!

[@sandyzisimopoulou217]

I love this video Andy ! And once I started thinking about the 90 day plan I instantly felt better and much more confident in my ability to win over the internal guy ! Bootcamper Sandy

[@andylacivita]

Go get em and make me proud!!!

[@sandyzisimopoulou217]

@@andylacivita I got the offer !! :-) Thank you Andy !!

[@freddiejonesy6168]

Great video!

[@andylacivita]

Thanks!

[@matthijsvegting3356]

So what happens when you get the job and the person you outcompeted has to work with you. They did not get the chance and have to see your face every day.

[@2steaksandwiches665]

I have a problem with this whole thing. I’ve l ost out now to three jobs to internal candidates. Within the last four months. They move me all the way to the end and then Bam. A former coworker of mine will refuse to interview with a company that has an internal candidate. Why do these companies bother interviewing external candidates if they have a solid internal candidate? They waste everyone’s time. I have a feeling most of their minds are made up. I do like your idea of asking about an internal candidate. I’m going to start doing that from now on. And then I will bail out. It’s just not worth it.

[@andylacivita]

Sorry tp hear, but keep at it! This is the best time of year to be job searching. Good luck!

[@MySiamesedreams]

Hi Andy, I appreciate the content you provide. I'm reentering the corporate scene after 5 years of strictly freelancing and consulting, spending time with my children. I have no way of bypassing the corporate application sites that require salary information and expectations. I've had the opportunity to learn and exhibit several executive level competencies such as sales leadership, integrated marketing, and communications but don't want my resume and headline/ elevator pitch to be too focused nor too generic, so that I don't miss opportunities. Also, does anyone really read cover letters? If they're not required, do we write one anyway? Please help and thank you in advance, as well as providing the valuable information you do.

[@andylacivita]

Amber, welcome to the channel. A couple things....nothing is preventing you from bypassing corporate app sites other than your thinking. I have loads of videos on this. Check the ones on job search networking. Also, check the videos I have on going from contractor or self employed to full time and definitely check my video on how and when employers read covers letters. I’d also recommend watching my cover letter playlist where I give you several for just about any occasion.

[@jakeiaekwegh4112]

Hi Andy, to combat this internal candidate disadvantage I provided a hiring manager with copies of my annual staff evaluations. I thought this is a solid format to prove my work ethic and success with my previous employer. I attached these copies in my “thank you for the interview” email. I really want this position but was that a wise move?

[@andylacivita]

HI Jakeia, I don't think the move hurt you by any means. I also don't think that helps. Most interviewers don't put too much stock in evaluations from other companies from people they don't know.

[@dransom5821]

Preach, anything takes you out of the game as a minority if your name is too ethnic, as a college student not enough experience or my favorite coming from disadvantaged school systems that never taught in detail or at all these things for surviving the real world for quality employment.

[@alaizabelcray9744]

Hey Andy. I was wondering if you could maybe cover the flipside. I'm applying for a job where I AM the in-house candidate. This is not my first time applying for a job where I've been the internal candidate and I'm really nervous because in the past I've been passed up for the external candidate. Do you have any suggestions for those that are the internal candidate and want to have an even better competitive edge?

[@andylacivita]

I would say account for what is in THIS video as well as the other interviewing tips I’ve shared!!

[@tech4ever1]

Hey Andy. Can you give me some tips on sending your resume into a comp a y that doesn't have a job posted please? My friend and former co-worker told me that it seemed like they were about to try and hire a.m.done but that they didn't usually lost them on onkine, and said I should go ahead and send my resume in. Do I email it to the recruiter? Do I preface it with somrthing?

[@andylacivita]

check out my video on how to apply when there's no job opening. i even give you the cover letter in that one.

[@EwClubb1]

Great question "and" response. I'm in the same boat. Thank you both!

[@tech4ever1]

Thank you Andy! I thought you might have something but didnt see it at first. Thanks again!

[@andylacivita]

@@tech4ever1 I've always got something for ya! :)

[@ruthmoros3993]

Andrew, thanks for sharing these very helpful tips. During 2 separate 2nd interviews, when I asked what it took to be successful in the role, they mentioned "detail-oriented. I did my homework on the company prior to that, and found several errors on their website. I thought this would land me the job, but they still went with the internal applicant. Any advice?

[@andylacivita]

I would not point out their mistakes in an interview. If you want to show you’re detail oriented I would use Danes from my own life.

[@ruthmoros3993]

Could you please clarify what "Danes" means?

[@rebeccajones9757]

I thought we weren't allowed to ask about other candidates.

[@andylacivita]

You’re allowed to ask about anything.

[@SS-cd6ie]

Can you tell me if you quit and then re-apply to other positions, are you still considered external? Is it better or worse prospects if you worked in the government before and are reapplying. Thx.

[@game568]

Sir, an HR person had called me last Thursday saying that she'd schedule a face to face interview on Thursday or Friday. She did not call back. So, as you had said, I sent her an email on Monday. I haven't heard back from her yet. What should I do? Should I send an email to the senior official who had interviewed me over the phone (before the HR called) citing how I can add value to the company? Please help!!

[@andylacivita]

If you sent her the follow up email, I would exactly 7 days and then call her. If you don't have her number, then email her again. If she doesn't respond, wait 14 days and then follow up again!

[@game568]

@@andylacivita I will do so, sir. Thank you so much for replying!

[@AKHIYou]

how many of you..... raise a hand!!! 2:01 another show of hands? 2:44 Are you doing a webinar or something, pls share if I could interact with you instead of watching a video. If you are just recording a video, please avoid these nonsensical phrases. Thanks!!

[@andylacivita]

Moderator well, actually, when I asked that question there were a couple hundred people with me live. You happen to be watching the recording of a live show. If you care to join, I offer my time for free every Thursday. And, there’s no need to make nonsensical comments on my channel.

[@ruthpienaar8284]

Hi Andrew what if i have all the experience but are busy with getting the qualification?

[@charlessmilinich5040]

Any chance you have videos that target transitioning military members and how to best articulate skills and experience?

[@andylacivita]

No, but I have an entire booklet called How to Go from Military Veteran to Civilian Professional. It's Free. That help!? Head over to my blog here: milewalk.com/mwblog/go-military-veteran-civilian-professional/

[@charlessmilinich5040]

Andrew LaCivita Perfect! Thank you for all the info you provide. I’m retiring soon and need help making that transition.

[@andylacivita]

Charles Smilinich you’re welcome buddy.