How To Beat - Hwoarang - Part 2 (d+3,4 and RFS)

[@LaFriTetueuse]

Thanks for doing our homework!

[@PeterYMao]

Lul. You got it Tony

[@pawepawlak9067]

Peter, you are a gem to the Tekken community. Thank you.

[@PeterYMao]

You are very welcome Pawel Pawlak.

[@Ninjabob568]

thanks peter this character is a low rank terror until people figure him out.

[@PeterYMao]

Absolutely! He will destroy lower ranks with ease

[@XMaggotMurderdollX]

Hey Peter! Thank you for your content and for sharing your strategy and knowledge about Tekken. I am a competitive fencing coach and you wouldn't believe how many things translate directly over from Tekken in terms of strategy, movement, timing patience and mixup. I really liked the comment about using movement as an option for frame advantage rather than it being "press a button vs don't press a button". Super excited for your future videos, hope all is well.

[@PeterYMao]

Thanks Murderdoll! It's really cool to know that Tekken strategy and knowledge transverses just the game. It's practically and methodologies also apply to actual sports like fencing and I'm sure boxing too ^_^

[@pierrs9373]

being a feng player is really amazing when it comes so facing howarang

[@PeterYMao]

How so?

[@pierrs9373]

@@PeterYMao sorry I meant -to facing-

[@pierrs9373]

@@PeterYMao feng has a lot of moves that is good in conditioning the howarang player in some situations

[@PeterYMao]

@@pierrs9373 lots of characters do ;) people just have to spend the time to learn and lab them

[@pierrs9373]

@@PeterYMao yeah that’s right but I’m saying that cause feng is hard to beat on 0 range and howarang is almost a zero range character but I still agree about that fact that you lab you win is the major deal here >

[@MineManMicky]

This dudes teaching strings! But for reals this is incredibly in depth, I didn't know how complex it was to deal with D3,4 there's a lot of thinking going on both ends here and now that I've seen a lot of these strings and moves watching tournament footage of Hwoarang makes a lot more sense.

[@PeterYMao]

Yeah! That's always a great feeling that after you learn something and watch games and start recognizing it. I think it's actually super important.

[@DarkWolf80s]

Dude! That was super informative! Thank you! I'm an AK player and Howarang is a character that just grinds my gears so much.

[@Nameless.Hermit]

I've decided to go back to T7 for a while, gonna learn some characters and wait a bit on T8, so this guide is still proving useful! Thanks Peter!

[@thoraero]

This is the greatest anti-Hwo spammers I have seen in years. Thanks!

[@PeterYMao]

Thanks Anak Thor ^_^

[@shibuyajin_music]

the more peter talks about hworang the more I question the sanity of the devs and tekken players in general. The fact that I have to spend more time learning and labbing hworang than my own character is kinda insane

[@K-amazing]

Good Sir I thank you, these guides you made really put me in the right mind set to deal with hwoarang bs. There are still very strong hwoarangs out there but with the knowledge you provide for the community im sure they now have something to fear.

[@cmar601]

This helps sooo much. Knowing frames is one thing but match up info like this is what I needed to see and learn. Great content as usual

[@PeterYMao]

You're very welcome C Mar :)

[@Guitar-Dog]

Good content as always, been missing your content, you hadn't posted in a while, glad your well!

[@PeterYMao]

xD I've been posting for the last 2 months

[@Guitar-Dog]

Yeah well i miss you when you don’t post for a couple minutes! Nah I think I’ve missed you in my subscriptions, subscribe to a lot of stuff and if I’m at work all week a few things fall threw the cracks of the algorithm. Much love you your content is great very professional xx 😘

[@PeterYMao]

@@Guitar-Dog thanks so so much :D

[@RisingJericho]

8:18 This. This is the exact reason I went looking for a guide like this. I thought I mistimed my punish or something!

[@PeterYMao]

Yup. Scary stuff and hard to punish for certain characters.

[@JJMR3000]

really good insight! well done Sir!

[@PeterYMao]

Thanks for watching JMR :)

[@ArmorKingTV21]

Very helpful guide, great stuff!

[@PeterYMao]

Hey! Thanks ArmorKingTV. Appreciate the compliment.

[@ayyappalaksh2290]

This is the best video detailing anti hwoarang flamingo pressure i ve seen. The presentation and information is so clear. Wish u make videos more often! Keep up the good work bro!

[@PeterYMao]

Wow, thank you, I'll definitely continue on with this series.

[@ChristopherWaddelow]

This is a great series or whatever you want to call it. Thanks a lot Peter!

[@PeterYMao]

Thanks alphabet dude :)

[@peternguyen1960]

Thanks Peter. Too much information to digest for beginners. I deal with Hwoarang mix-up by experience and instinct. It is because he has so many options. I think Namco should reduce his mix-up damage and wall carry.

[@PeterYMao]

For a pure beginner, sure. However, I've broken it down into just the d+3,4 into RFS which is way way more manageable in my opinion. I haven't even talked about how he can transition from LFS or any of the jab strings yet.

[@peternguyen1960]

@@PeterYMao your analysis on d_3,4 is excellent

[@zThe_Questionz]

Nice job on the Vid Peter! I would like to add this additional info as well: I don't know if anyone has brought this up but there is a tech trap off of d+3,4 due to the +14 on hit can go into 2, b+4 or 1,b+4. Which this happening out in the open or at the wall can be a death sentence if you're not prepared for the attack. The attack is a high, high Besides that this will wall splat and if you're not actively holding back while this is going down you will be hit fully I want to say altogether it's meaty dmg like 50-56 if all of it connects and if not I want to say it jails but I haven't had enough time to test this. Thought I should share this

[@PeterYMao]

Hi Kyle. I appreciate the added info :) thank you for sharing bud.

[@zThe_Questionz]

@@PeterYMao No problem man also this can be a counter hit tool as well I forgot to mention

[@makeomengreatagain]

@@zThe_Questionz and b3 after 2 12 frames counter hit high for big dmg

[@rubberducky1356]

Thanks Peter!

[@PeterYMao]

You're very welcome RubberDucky :)

[@zafarkhusro2534]

This really is quality content. Finally understanding hworang a bit and the way you're explaining everything is the only way. Hworang, Steve, eddy, ling, yoshi. These are few matchups I've always put off learning because of how complicated they seem. Cheers man.

[@ICEMAN-Z8]

Peter i know u get this a lot but i love how u explain things, this is high quality video and i can see the amount of work put into this. Pls consider doing the same things about much dangerous characters than Hwo, like julia or Zafina. Thank u and have a nice day.

[@PeterYMao]

Sure, I think I'll do one for Zafina.

[@ICEMAN-Z8]

@@PeterYMao i think Julia is way more annoying and dangerous than Zafina

[@ICEMAN-Z8]

Peter i gotta ask!!?? Do u hate Hwoarang so u made this video or it is just for the help of others 😂 ?

[@PeterYMao]

@@ICEMAN-Z8 I made this series cause I wanted to learn more about the character. I don't hate Hwoarang at all. I actually think he is a pretty complex character.

[@ICEMAN-Z8]

@@PeterYMao in my opinion there are 5 characters in tekken u can never hate, Hwoarang, Steve, kazuya, Bryan and paul.

[@manikin7805]

im literally using this as a hwoarang guide, cuz im learning hwo so i can understand how to counter him

[@andrewolf1320]

This is very helpful, hwoarang almost made me quit the game 😅 Now I realise why I always feel at minus against him, it's because I am

[@RexMcDirkin]

Dude I’m just now finding your channel. You make very helpful in depth videos and are very thorough and break it down so even an idiot like me can understand. Great work man. Hope to see more videos from you.

[@PeterYMao]

Currently I've been very busy with life so I haven't had the most time to actually upload more content, but when I do have more time I will.

[@RexMcDirkin]

@@PeterYMao totally understandable man. Take your time . We will all be here when ya get back .

[@theenlightenedone1283]

Thanks so much 👍🏻

[@PeterYMao]

No problem 👍

[@theenlightenedone1283]

@@PeterYMao thanks sir we really appreciate these videos

[@chrisjpdx]

You are a saint and a scholar

[@PeterYMao]

Thanks Chris!!

[@kilink9599]

thank you so much, this is gold

[@megadethfist]

Part 3 hype lets go!! Nice vid!

[@PeterYMao]

quit possibly Monday? ^_^

[@pickedupapencil]

No 4 4, and 4 4 4 into RFS on the cheat sheet? I enjoy the mind games from that 11 frame move.

[@PeterYMao]

4,4 does not go into RFS. 4,4 stays in LFF stance.

[@pickedupapencil]

I main Hwoarang, and I'm pretty sure it does. The way I remember it now is this: 4 4 goes into RFS, and 4 F+4 goes into RFF, and you can do 4 4 3 if they like to duck after the 4 4. 4 4 4, 4 4 F+4, and 4 4 4 3 are the same but only the first two hits jail, or natural combo, so these are more dangerous. I will double check later though just for my sanity.

[@icannottakeitanymore2287]

Nice!

[@PeterYMao]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@victorgodthelp9368]

Great video, really hate to play vs howy....

[@PeterYMao]

The MU is definitely daunting if you don't know much about it. Very hard for sure for beginners and intermediates.

[@GuiDaFunkyMan]

Thanks Peter, now I'm waiting for the next part. ^-^

[@PeterYMao]

I think I'll release it Monday :)

[@GuiDaFunkyMan]

@@PeterYMao Cool!

[@tekkenbravogaming]

Very useful video

[@winterfan8298]

Love these vids 👍🙂🙃

[@PeterYMao]

Yay! Thank you!

[@amazmughal5861]

very helpful

[@MrNotorious94]

i14 frame punish or faster for blocked d+3,4. Or use a full crouch low if you have one.

[@PeterYMao]

i14 the timing has to be perfect

[@MrNotorious94]

@@PeterYMao true but if u have a 14 frame launcher it could be worth it. You really wanna make him pay for doing the move.

[@foreveruseless1292]

Lmao I definitely need this to deal with d+3,4. Thanks Peter!

[@PeterYMao]

You're very welcome foreveruseless :)

[@Guitar-Dog]

You will need to change that KZbin name when your done with Peters guides 😅

[@foreveruseless1292]

@@Guitar-Dog lol

[@victorfranca85]

comprehensive. Can't wait for a less annoying character.

[@PeterYMao]

Less annoying character like who? Yoshi? Ling Xiaoyu? Lei? Leroy? Fahkumram? Ganryu? Bears? Alisa? Nina? Anna?

[@GodHandIzz]

Thanks as always Peter

[@PeterYMao]

You got it GodhandIzz!!

[@nioykak5782]

Man northern cross seems so nice for blocked d34. Will have to test if lars db4 also ch launches flappy kicks after

[@PeterYMao]

You'll need to be able to do a move from full crouch, and remain in crouch.

[@Ace-tq9kr]

Could someone take a moment and try and explain the df1 mind game? Mentioned at 21:30

[@PeterYMao]

I got you Ace. I might make a video on this.

[@Ace-tq9kr]

@@PeterYMao that would be Appreciated.

[@Demon_Aura]

This is a Hwoarang guide for me, but what about left flamingo? And you see when Hwoarang do d3,4,3+4 it put hwoarang on -1 to -15 is that true?

[@Demon_Aura]

And Right Foot Forward

[@PeterYMao]

I didn't get around to labbing left flamingo. I don't recall how many frames Hwoarang is at after d+3,4 -> 3+4, but it's enough where you can fit in a launcher.

[@trippinbilly1942]

What do you think about the common strategy of dickjabbing right after the d3,4 to avoid HWO’s jab? I mean, you can get hit by a mid, but considering how much HWO players love that jab to keep you in the loop..

[@PeterYMao]

The question you have to ask yourself is, "is it worth getting away from a jab that's +5 on block" or "eating a CH launcher." RFS d/f+4, RFS u/f+4, RFS b+3 will all CH launch you if you try to dick jab after d+3,4. On the other side if you get hit by RFS 1, or RFS b+4 then Hwoarang will be at +9 or +14 depending on which move hit you. Both of which are worse situations to be in than him being at +5. These are the things to consider. However, playing to what your opponent does is the most important. If your opponent ONLY does jab after d+3,4 then by all means dickjab away, but if your opponent varies his options after d+3,4 then dickjab is actually one of the worst options you can possibly do.

[@trippinbilly1942]

@@PeterYMao: Hey Peter, thanks a lot for such a thorough reply. That says a lot about the love you’re putting into your channel. Please keep up the beautiful and hard work. A big fan, Luca.

[@PeterYMao]

@@trippinbilly1942 thanks man for enjoying the content :). I appreciate it

[@thememelords9491]

idek why i struggle with hwoarang sometimes i got to the green ranks and expected pain and suffering when my first match was with a hwoarang but i ducked and launched like a third of the highs he used(he did not adapt, average hwoarang player lmao) but some others just kick my ass for some reason

[@adonismodel1429]

I'm a hworang main just here to see if it checks out lol

[@PeterYMao]

Thanks :)

[@melvinshine9841]

It's hilarious to me that everybody calls RFS b+4 "flappy kicks". I think d+3,4 can also be stepped to the right, though maybe that's only if your out of range of the 3 in the first place. It's funny to me that even K-Wiss, a Hwoarang main, feels that RFS b+3 needs to be more than -10. The "good" thing about RFS is that most of the Hwoarangs I run into go for b+3 or the armor move out of it so they give up their turn, but I'll admit I get hit by said armor move way, way too often.

[@PeterYMao]

yeah the b+3 from RFS should be -12 at least. It's so good for a launcher.

[@ICEMAN-Z8]

K wiss is much over rated and hes not nearly among the best Hwoarang’s out there, trust me on this bcoz I myself been playing Hwoarang since tekken 3, so don’t take k wiss’ ideas as a gospel. Hwo is a strong character and can mix u up easily with his pressure but there is a reason hes not top tier, it gets really hard to win with him in high level tekken.

[@IAmEnormous]

RFS 1 leading into his 10-string really threw me off once, this guy I was playing kept using it and I had no idea what was going on because the animation's so awkward. Obviously now I know I can just duck and punish, but still, another layer.

[@PeterYMao]

10 strings usually aren't used, but it's good to at least know where the low attacks in the strings are. You never know when your opponent might rip one out. As you say, this is something you now know and with that knowledge have another layer to the understanding of Tekken :)

[@droppy2692]

Like and watch time 23:32

[@PeterYMao]

Oh yeah! Thanks Droppy!!

[@Dweaver1906]

as a hwo player we want you to duck, that leads to our pressure, a lot of moves missed out of our options

[@PeterYMao]

A lot of moves missing out your options from RFS? How many did I miss?

[@Dweaver1906]

@@PeterYMao probably the most important one that I use is f3 out of RF, which leads to neutral...... but we also have the ability to do f3,4 which is a cork screw hard knock down..... (but it is a high, i usually see people duck the last hit, then I launch) ducking is dangerous against good hwo's

[@PeterYMao]

@@Dweaver1906 so I missed 1 or 2 attacks out of RFS. I would hardly say that’s a lot. Also, I thought RFS f+3 was -7 on block? I don’t think it’s neutral on block.

[@Dweaver1906]

@@PeterYMao i'm sorry it puts hwo back to neutral, then he is counter attack baiting directly afterwards, backdash sidestep is the way to go because it's so many different options out of RF (LF) has more. but there is a couple more (forward 1 (which you included) but forward 1, 2 is the option select which leads up to the infamous 10 hit lol, which I stop to detect a duck.... I should pick up another character, I've been playing him since Tekken 3 when he came out, but I learned that if his movement isn't' good hwo is weak against taking pressure, (lack of lows and 13f or less moves that don't require space.)

[@ninjaboylamel]

Yo Peter after d34 u can step

[@PeterYMao]

I’ve tested this and I doesn’t seem to work for me. Could you please show me that you can step after d+3,4? Record a video

[@ninjaboylamel]

@@PeterYMao aight I'll record something rn

[@PeterYMao]

@@ninjaboylamel let me know when you got it. I'm interested in checking it out

[@ninjaboylamel]

@@PeterYMao whoa u might be right wtf has been happening all these years lmaooo

[@PeterYMao]

@@ninjaboylamel 😉don't doubt the PYM content. Joke joke. But yeah d+3,4 is +14 on hit. It's too many frames for you to be able to SS. I think some characters can like get away from "some" of the mix with evasive attacks, but that's about it. Overall, 90% of the cast just has to hold that mix.

[@silverman7208]

Saying and doing in training is easy. It's hard in combat. This character is one of the cheat characters in this game. His attacks seem to be very flexible and overly stylish. And at the same time, he can continue his combinations of attacks as he likes, interrupting his previous combination in a matter of seconds. I have this character in 2 categories: 1) easy to control 2) with very strong attacks that in real life will be very weak. It's a pity that Tekken developers know how to make normal fighters through mysticism in the game. At a time when Mortal Kombat found their chip and make a lot of money on it despite the meat grinder. Ask why? because they don't downplay some of their characters in terms of power and combos. Since they make an ordinary fighter strong and thoughtful, let others be strong and thoughtful. It is not surprising that Mortal Kombat is many times more popular.

[@syedgouhar1790]

d3,4 is so busted that a tekken professor has to dissect it for 23min imagine practicing a single hwo move and then getting launched online just coz punishment is just plain hard 😂

[@PeterYMao]

That's how this game is man. Takes a lot of dedication and patience :)

[@hamdishadow1]

Thank you man... but his frames are really busted