How To Beat The Narcissist At His Own Game

#narcissist #narcissism #hgtudor
Want to take the narcissist on at his own game and beat him? Want to harness that super empath aspect inside of you, or perhaps it is time for the empath strikes back? Codependency can wait, it is time for getting one over on the narcissist. You may be a Standard Empath, but this is not a time for standard behaviour. Contagion conschmagion, dump the feelings and respond. HG Tudor tells it how it is.
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[@ryanreagan6073]

Sometimes the manipulator gets manipulated sometimes the player gets played

[@R3B3K4H]

I know, right? And they hate it. Play with a super empath and that's what happens. What? They said they loved game 🤷‍♀️😁

[@maroneem3209]

We have a proverb that says” when magic turns against the magician”. True that.

[@gmbbrz]

The only way to ultimately win is to walk away. If you really try to play their game, you lose. If you do something to even the score, you have to walk away (for good) afterwards. They will act like they want you back so badly. All they want is to take you down.

[@focusedonfuture3255]

They are playing a game nobody wants to play for a prize nobody wants. They can have it and all that comes with it.

[@ThisMelMel]

They want it. It's all about power and control. And if they are still in your life, you haven't run far enough. "March off the battlefield... Implement your No Contact..."

[@godlovesyousomuch5894]

Yes very true Any thing from a narcissist is not worth the trouble it would take to get NO CONTACT is the best way

[@aliross2720]

The truth is narcissists arent really playing games with you. They are playing games with themselves. The narcissist is at war with themselves and you are just another tool they are using to fight that war. Life becomes a series of endless, pointless battles where no matter what you do, you cannot do right. Either you are sabotaging the narcissist and ruining their life, or you are incapable of doing anything right and they are so much better than you. You're doing something wrong regardless. The problem is that you are dealing with a person that has no self-esteem or self-worth at all who can only prove they matter by using other people's accomplishments - either by dismissing them, claiming them or victimizing themselves with them. Because narcissists are not capable of regulating their own self-worth and self-esteem, other people are the measuring stick by which they measure their own worth. They either see someone who is better than they are, or someone who is less than they are. This usually depends on how they are feeling about themselves at the time, more than anything else. As with everything, it's all about them and how they are feeling about themselves. They have no way to regulate self-worth or create self-esteem, so the only way they can feel better is by stepping on other people to elevate themselves. They cannot be good unless someone else is bad. They cannot be right unless someone else is wrong. As a result of this constant comparing of themselves to others and using others as a way to measure their own worth, the narcissist is in constant competition with others - and always coming up short. How they react to this depends on the narcissist's personality. Some will accuse others of causing them to fail or holding them back, and others will look for ways they can claim to be better than the other person. Some do both. Some tell lies designed to make them seem on equal footing with the person they feel inferior to. These are all ways of defending against the shame and self-hatred their perceived failures create within them. Other people are mirrors are for the narcissist. Other people reflect all of the narcissist's negative feelings and qualities back to them, causing them to feel shamed and hated. They deny these feelings out of reflex, and as a result they can perceive them as coming from outside themselves, which is why they accuse other people of feeling that way. It's they who feel that way about themselves. Narcissists do not see other people as actual people with their own thoughts, feelings, needs, wants and goals. They view other people only as reflections of themselves. They don't see you. They see a mirror reflecting their own feelings and images back to themselves. The sole purpose that other people have in a narcissist's life is how the narcissist can use that person to make themselves either feel good or feel bad. That's it. The games they seem to be playing with you are really games they are playing with themselves, because the goal or point of the behavior has nothing to do with you. You are just a tool being used to create whatever they are trying to create in themselves. How this manipulative abuse affects you is not considered or even acknowledged. It just doesn't matter. They know you are a person, the same way they know a lamp is a lamp and a cat is a cat. But emotionally there is no understanding, no connection there. The fact that you are a human being is just information with no actual meaning for them. It's a categorization and that's all. All the feelings they seem to have for or about you - both good and bad - are really just projected feelings for or about themselves. You as an individual human being do not exist to the narcissist. You are a container for emotions they cannot handle. They don't love you. They love the way you make them feel. They don't hate you. They hate themselves and need someone to take it out on. You are the stage dressing in the never-ending play they are performing. Contrary to popular belief, you're not the audience. They are their own audience. The performance is for themselves. You are just the prop that makes it more believable. They will manipulate you, arrange you, place you and remove you as the script demands, and not one thought will ever be spared for how this affects you because you are an object with no feelings. Feelings control pathologically narcissistic people. Your feelings are important only because of how they make the narcissist feel. How your feelings make you feel is not important or even considered. It really is an alien way to look at things, and it's often very difficult for people to understand because most people aren't like that. Most of us don't see others as objects. We understand that people have feelings and we care. Narcissists do not. It's just not the way they operate. They have no empathy. The games that seem to be about wearing your self-esteem down or making you seem crazy or hurting you or gaslighting you aren't really about that at all. They are about making the narcissist feel better. The games that seem to be about accusing you or hating you aren't really about that. They are about making the narcissist feel bad. Haven't you ever noticed that none of it really seems to have anything to do with you personally? It's all a bunch of crazy stuff you would never do or never said or that never happened. That's because it's about them and their feelings, not you or anything you are doing. That's why so many people say things like, "I lost a game I never even knew I was playing!" You didn't lose, because you aren't playing. You are not the other player in this tennis match from hell. You are the ball. Everything that pathologically narcissistic people do is for themselves and about themselves. Narcissists aren't really trying to destroy you. How can they be, when you don't exist? They are using you to try to destroy or rebuild themselves. This illustrates how self-centered and self-focused they truly are. They abuse, torture, ruin, devalue and discard as a matter of course. It's personal, sure. To you. It is not personal to the narcissist. The only person they will ever acknowledge is themselves.

[@ericwilliams477]

@@aliross2720 wow I have never been able to find the words exposing this!!! It’s like I knew all this but didn’t know how to say or think it but thank you wow!

[@arieswinters5754]

@@aliross2720 🤯😲Wow. I'm pinning your explanation onto my fridge

[@Paula-oo1ko]

Knew right when I seen this title, No way can you. Had one narcissist say to me "You can't win." The other said "You can't bullshit a bullshiter." Do yourself a favor dont play at all. Consider game over by going TOTAL NO CONTACT.

[@dimpleswashington6937]

facts

[@ElanaVital83]

You can win. Same Vaknin is a narcissist himself and tells you how with Richard Grannon. There's an extensive seminar on how to do it. It's not a pleasant thing to do if you have empathy, but it IS possible. Sometimes even necessary under the right circumstances.

[@askRealT]

The best thing is to not ignore the red flags and avoid getting entangled with them. If you are unfortunately entangled with one, when they discard you go NO CONTACT while they are giving you the silent treatment you will have a head start on healing. Understand the cycle and flow with it. There is a light at the end of the tunnel!

[@deshuliahhooks8893]

This Advice ❤️!

[@margomazzeo1680]

@@starsequin Yeah..it is hard.

[@gregwythes6055]

trouble is coverts have you hooked before you get a chance to recognise the red flags. Look at Richard Grannon. Expert in narcissism and still get a once over by another narcissist. These people have highly refined skills. obviously the overt is alot easier to recognise and avoid.

[@Fiddlinbends]

This really hit thank you

[@Songbirdstress]

Good point, you can understand what they are, they can't. To me liberation comes from truth seeking. I have the truth now and am free. Have always said the truth will set you free.

[@ManifestingMagician2323]

How to beat them? Don't play. GOSO.

[@JL-th1nb]

These people are dead on the inside. They care about nothing, no feelings and nothing bothers them!! Don't even bother with attempting to manipulate!!

[@adriandeaconeasa3495]

They care to ALWAYS WIN!

[@specialtwice4975]

Regular people can't deal with these types of people. It's best to run/go no contact. If you have a soul/normal emotions/conscience you will not win. A sociopath or psychopath though will have fun and chew them up like a dog with their favorite chew toy. :) How? Because a sociopath doesn't care and will sit back and relax, maybe even laugh, while the narc cries or screams in pain. Cruel? Maybe. But such is the fact of life.

[@elliemay7569]

Unless... u have to to get escape them!

[@bless746]

They don't always win ..they have live in a dark world for the rest of thier life. Sad and lonely..lies, pain..the best way to get back, is to leave these demons alone...move on and better your life...these ppl are toxic and toxins kills...leave them alone...leave them alone

[@angelal5565]

I hate that I feel sorry for them knowing this

[@coloradoavsfan6942]

I think it’s funny that he says “Narcissists have friends”, once they figure them out I don’t think so. All they do is use and use and use! I wouldn’t want any friend like that!!

[@JohnJohn-km6fs]

The mouthwash their "friends" to their supplies, the do not like anybody, they view people as service

[@explorer0213]

There not friends there sycophants and flying monkeys!!!!

[@alllifematters]

Healthier friends don't stick around because narcissist doesn't make space for anyone else in reoatuonships

[@m.d.s.69]

A$$holes hang out with other a$$holes for a reason 😂

[@nathalian.7209]

I’ve been attracting narcissistic men my entire life, due to my father, an evil narcissist himself. Consequently the chaos of a narcissist relationship was just familiar to me. I’ve healed, study for years and now I can easily spot a narcissist. My technique is hard to do but it’s working, what I do is I let them flatter me, compliment me, take me out to fancy places (they all do the same) and I just simply enjoy while knowing it’s all fake. The first moment they use the withdrawn and devaluation techniques they’re blocked and will never hear or see me again. I will be far gone seeing someone else. Currently I have been handling a few narcissist people at the same time, it’s funny how they’re all the same and they’re everywhere. In my case the love bomb phase last from 2 to 4 Weeks until they show their narcissistic personality. Fortunately I have real empath, loving and generous people in my life, I feel peace, joy and happiness more than ever. Self control and studying about narcissistic disorder is the best weapon against narcissist.

[@JoyOkoroN]

Mmmm, I was doing this successfully until I was deceived by a friend/nice guy who turned out to be a covert

[@drlarrymitchell]

Doing a dirty person dirtier will require a certain moral flexibility...but they had it coming.

[@judithwilliams765]

I don't count him as human.

[@kimwill3420]

Not every one thinks it's important to win. Peace and true love is the way 👍

[@theartzscientist8012]

Rise above the demonic behavior. Set boundaries. This hurts the narc.

[@kauffrau6764]

"Leave the battlefield." Yes, Let it go.

[@missrose7975]

Don’t play 🤷🏻‍♀️💯

[@kirstenbrogan5958]

Be unaffected by their actions... indifferent.

[@HumanBean-v2m]

... and safely GOSO...🎉

[@janelleespinosa6247]

I learned a lot about myself being with my husband/Narcissist for decades. Everything was a WAR...it would have been so helpful to have this knowledge earlier, so even now, still drained from leaving my life in 2 hours, moving out, starting over in many ways, I very much admire my own strength. I will live well, amd I am smiling again, and listening to you is wrapping it all up for me. This is priceless

[@vonickles5033]

Well done, you did well x

[@hayleylongster4698]

As my grandma and now I would say: "You don't beat them by joining them"

[@nycstarport8542]

Yes, stay out of the mud, with them.

[@ElanaVital83]

But you can understand how they tick and disarm them.

[@smilinazzdoggy825]

@@ElanaVital83 no you don't

[@ryanreagan6073]

I was raised by an empath and a narcissist in a crazy house I know how the game is played I'm an empath I can be extremely narcissistic I'm a nice guy until you push the wrong buttons I hate when people attempt to deceive me and insulted my intelligence

[@zion367]

If someone is able to make you feel like they insult your intelligence then this means that they touched a subcincious belief of yours that thinks you are not intelligent. If you truely feel like you are intelligent then you look at this attempt and laugh at it.

[@mariankeller5852]

So what are you trying to say? You believe if you get angry when someone messes with your mind it makes you a narcissist ? Don't think so..anyone would get ticked if their lied to ...it makes you human

[@sherimascote7850]

Is you a narcissistic?

[@bullthemessenger_9435]

@@sherimascote7850, you can be narcissitic and not a narcissist(As in Narcisstic Personality Disorder).

[@happymomXO]

Same for me. You can turn on that learned narc behavior but not necessarily have the psychological disorder.

[@sightunseen6802]

Cut off your attention and a part of the narcissist dies. His existence is based on distorted reflections of himself in others. To him, reality must comply with his perception except he hasn’t discovered that he is the one who mis-creates his reality thus needing to correct it over and over again with his control tactics. He is trapped in this closed system. Don’t try to beat him or rescue him. He’s chosen this. Instead face your own codependent reasons for falling into his traps, lies and a false reality.

[@mysticme777]

Not playing anymore after knowing what I'm dealing with after watching your videos... Thx HG 💖

[@hgtudor-theultra]

Wise.

[@cynthiar7918]

It’s like chugging a bottle of wine thinking you won’t get drunk. Not going to happen.

[@michaelking4578]

“It is like a shark trying to take on an eagle in the air”… Brilliant and true.

[@hgtudor-theultra]

Absolutely.

[@aNnAkt1qw]

When I am done am done. No looking back. i will go gracefully and take what i have learnt and continue my journey 💜

[@scottwilson8880]

This is the best treatment I've ever had . Fuel + adverse consequence every time isn't worth it.

[@gmbbrz]

Actually I was able to use his own game against him. I guess I wasn't really any happier for it, but it worked none the less. I was able to preserve my self respect. He never took me down with him.

[@JoyOkoroN]

Yeahhh but it still feels like crap

[@givegodthanks]

No contact is the only way, when I blocked him he came to my job asking to unblock he said why am I doing it to think I'm winning, I never saw it that way but in their mind every thing is a game. So yes no contact is losing to them because it ends the control.

[@janelleespinosa6247]

Disagree....in their mind, everything is not a game, but a WAR

[@MrMharris1990]

Yes you are right. No contact

[@amiraclek332]

Common!!! Narscists are everywhere. We cant just run away from every job, and every oppurtiny just because a narc is there. Give us some usefull stuff.

[@hgtudor-theultra]

See "How to Handle a Narcissist At Work".

[@uwerewarnedjudgementisupon1145]

they wont give us the real tool to not only win but how to destroy them they are all evil and liars

[@lizzysbeautyshowetc.6895]

You beat a narcissist at their own game by discarding and never looking back at them if you can see years can go by they winds up alone sad and pathetic never have grown there are like 5 year olds

[@ThePossumone]

Don’t try to con a con artist - they are three steps ahead of you

[@SindyJ37]

Your videos are a Godsend. I finally understand what I'm dealing with

[@stacir3727]

At the end, I began doing things to him that he did to me. I’m sure it didn’t accomplish anything, but it felt pretty good.

[@givegodthanks]

I did too it felt great.

[@godlovesyousomuch5894]

Yes it is sad when we start acting like them I did stupid silly things like turn the hot water on in the kitchen when he was in the shower LOL Life is so much better with NO CONTACT

[@louiseboyd8896]

I did it by default....and I'm glad.....it was just a natural reflex to divert his energy.....while still holding my peace.....he cowerd away....but he will be back....and I won't answer.....I won't be there....because I do not want to hear his voice....I don't want to hear his lies....ever again...

[@kahlabrate8954]

Brilliant. Thank you. Continued appreciation of you sharing - for free - these lessons. In the end one considers how shared experiences- shared understandings are all perceptions. Good or bad are not useful labels.

[@lizzysbeautyshowetc.6895]

Being a narcissist is a lonely existence they are emotionally crippled people they need people to give them a sense of self which is sad and pathetic And who would want people like that in their life where they need other people so they can feel important very sad and lonely they are empty shells

[@ntombifuthiyika5975]

Thank you Sir. The only way to win is not to play. I love the 'leave the battleground ' that's what my mom used to say. 'The only person you can control is yourself unless you are a narcissist ' is nothing but the truth. I wanted to have a comment free day but I can't ignore these truths. Thanks HG.

[@malchin4493]

Pretend they don’t exist and ignore them. It will level them down

[@BetomengLegoman]

Thank you man i am healed 100%, full understanding after 5 hours watching your channel !!! The Truth is here !!!

[@tmharperjr]

The problem arises when you cannot walk away … because the narcissist is your boss or president or holds sway over people who will suffer if you do nothing. In this situation, you are morally obligated to do something … not only to help others but to help yourself, too. While it’s normally more appropriate to be assertive and direct, these approaches do not work with the narcissist. If you’re aggressive, they’ll attempt to use that against you as well. Consequently, passive aggressive recruitment and education of all those around you may be the only viable option to reign in the narcissist’s vile behavior.

[@melbygosling890]

HG of the house of Tudor, You are brilliant! It took me way too long to learn this truth.You have just confirmed what I now know.

[@mikeramos4608]

There is a middle ground - you can't beat the Mid Range Narcissist but if he is fake Emphath so he can be constrained by his facade. A retreat in good order if you will. The Narcissist gets his fuel, but he also reveals his tactics. So the retreat can be planned, and the final break can be complete. Quite apart from that, by your admission, the majority of Narcissists have so little foresight they live for the fuel in the moment. The Mid Range gets smug and careless because they think they are far more clever than they actual are... As for comeuppance there are many forms. The lazy Narcissist who doesn't have secondary appliances will tone done his efforts if the residual benefits are threatened. Revenge is never complete but subtle as concessions are almost inevitable. After all, no Narcissist likes to do his own housework ... So yes, you will never vanquish the Narcissist but you can make his life just a little difficult. Reduced choices may become permanent as your average run of the mill Mid Range is pretty pathetic my their 30s. And more empaths become more sensitive to a disturbance in the Force ...

[@ElanaVital83]

Wise words. And with these tactics you can actually make the narcissist want to avoid messing with you.

[@lornainlondon4527]

They DONT HV FRIENDS (maybe one that is likewise) Their families know them all too well but don’t warn the victims & lookaway….

[@explorer0213]

Alot of their families are narcs themselves. It is hereditary by 60/70 percent.

[@southernhorseman2006]

Nothing is more rediculous than the transparent and self diluted narc. Most narcs operate and react in predictable patterns, and yet are so often oblivious to how obvious their facades are to those who have encountered and learned about the narcissistic narrative. This type of narcissistic decernment holds especially true for the educated and experienced empath. It's as if the majority of narcs operate from the same playbook, and yet act as if they've somehow come up with some new and inventive tactics. Because of their false sense of superiority, the narc is seldom aware of their own transparency. For an experienced and aware empath, there's nothing more putrid than the low functioning narcissist that projects themselves as a genius level manipulator. It's bad enough to be a narcissist, but it's even worse to not even be good at it! Narcissism operates on a spectrum, and for those narcs who exist on the lower end, there's no need in beating them at their own game. Simply give them the right bait and enough rope and they'll practically hang themselves with little effort on your part. Most narcs hate no-contact, but exposing the narc's simple mindedness and transparency before you go no-contact absolutely does add insult to their injuries.

[@i.l.9546]

Exactly. I got a hoover after leaving him without closure. He wanted to talk. My Response Was 'If I were you I wouldn t insist bc you defintly would regret it to talk to me once more'. Kind me😊

[@zinilebt6002]

Yes, no contact is always the way, otherwise it is just petty drama all the time. But if you have to encounter them in contact I still think there is a way to beat the Narc. To be in complete control of myself. So that it is tough to get a reaction. Because when the Narc throws an (emotional) knife and I decide that it doesn't hurt me ,because I know there is a mentally ill person in front of me, the knife turns around and hurts the narc. Because this "Knife" is so loaded with an intention to hit, it will. It will either hit the target or return to the sender. The Narc is active because he/she needs other people's energy and the energy is only released by the reaction. So the ultimate war technique here is to starve them by doing it the Jedi type of way. Fight without fighting. They need the reaction desperately but just acting like you don't care will not work. These people can read others. You really need to distract yourself. Lets say there is an Outside event and the Narc does everything in their power to get your attention. Engage in an interesting conversation that makes you forget what is going on around you. Focus is key here. Lets say you see them on the street from a far. Put your headphones on and focus on the music. Find a point where you can Focus your Eyes on. If you passed them: Don't look back. That's what they are waiting for. Simply focus on anything other then them. If they force themselves into a conversation you are having with another, leave but make it seem like it is just a coincidence. And again: Don't turn around. Look at your phone or whatever but focus completely on it. Especially when they are close. They will observe you. Check them out from a far an plan your way out with a big UNINTENDED middle finger. Let them ponder if you have seen them or not. Be sure that they will think about you and never make the mistake of an attempt to check if they watch you. You need to block them even on an energetic level. That means that you can not allow Yourself to think about them. Thoughts are energy and time is rare. This is how you beat them when you have to be at an Event or Party where you can move freely. Non-reaction is key.

[@SRRR8]

This Really Helped.Thank You so much

[@FK-cg8el]

I don't even care any more HG It's the past I don't live with my past My future is nice and bright i learned so much Good evening HG

[@edifreinwald2494]

L

[@mowthpeece1]

That they don't feel is not true. They feel plenty, just not how normal people do. They care about their view of themselves, for example. Point out constantly and continuously how their crazy ideas are crazy and eventually they'll have to get rid of you. Attack their weak and artificial self-esteem and they'll have to get rid of you. That's how you win. Once you know what you are dealing with you have all the power. You know their weaknesses. Go straight for them. A rattlesnake is easily beaten by a mongoose, an animal that's cool, calm, and collected up until he meats a rattlesnake. Does it take energy? Yes, lots of it. Most people just don't have enough. That's fine. But some of us are volcanoes with a pipe that goes straight into the Earth's core. We CAN fight forever, if need be. In my case, my narc gave up. He thinks he won. Lol... And that's fine. I'm the one who's free. He is trapped in his own hell.

[@cecilwhiting125]

This is the most profoud analysts I've EVER Heard!!!!!!!!!!

[@tomikoeaton9786]

The key is to narc out on a narcissist the key is to not care at all I have done it brilliantly I'm a super empath virgo you have to master there behavior no emotional thinking

[@brettg82au]

Labelling oneself a super anything is exactly what nnnnnarcissists love to do.... That, along with identifying oneself with crap like star signs. That's emotional thinking in a nutshell

[@ejvenida]

Thank you HG Tudor! You are the best narcissist ever! ❤️ #healing

[@givegodthanks]

I have done things that really piss him off, I remembered when I was being devalued we was out for lunch we drove separately but he wanted me to drive back to his house. I followed behind for a while and when I was being him at the stop light it turn green he drove off and I turn left and went home, he noticed I wasn't being and I'm telling you he blew up my phone and curse and yelled demanding I turn back. It felt great when you do the opposite of what they want and it came naturally to do so. I really can beat him at his own gave.but no contact as being working great I don't even want to hear from him.

[@tamz-b1h]

Lols

[@rampitup12]

No contact still beats them at the game . The game of hoovering.

[@MargaretM-vd7bb]

Wise Words, Thankyou HG.❤️🌻

[@stephaniestrolls]

I like the shark vs eagle analogy. Really puts it into perspective.

[@Real2k25]

Sure does

[@lthrldy]

This is one of your most profound videos. Listen carefully, people, HG is telling you the truth about your emotional thinking.

[@kahlabrate8954]

Darn right. This needs many more views and likes.

[@lionhearttt3540]

You can't win...these people don't care one bit about you You on the other hand especially empaths care alot, narcissists have free reign on empaths, The way to win is to walk away You can't solve this , you can't rationalise this they do not care about you, you cannot hurt someone who doesn't care Walk away for you and your peace

[@m.g.g.1974]

Beat you? No way! It's so much fun playing with you 😂

[@JohnMccart777]

I've listened to much of your work. I've found it very informative in dealing with the narcissist. I have also come to realise that though I'm primarily Empath, there is in me a very real Narcissist too, forming a sizeable chunk of my essence/personality. This narcissistic aspect of myself does keep the foolhardy aspect of Empath in check to some degree and it does need to be reined in occasionally.

[@Kyanite8]

Yeah, I do suck at manipulating. I feel shame for each time I tried. Even the mere thought of controlling somebody makes me cringe.

[@ElanaVital83]

You gotta do what you gotta do.

[@diamondscouseempire2259]

The only way to beat the narc is live ur life an be a sucsess story end of. No narc is more stronger than the power of god. End of story 😉

[@anneshagordon6341]

The power of God that gives you the strength to go no contact trust me on that

[@tcbcmoto4895]

God has helped me get the strength to get rid of such jealous sick narrissists out of my life and keep they out,they are nothing but fake cowards and I don't fear them anymore and il never fear them again 💪🙏

[@daniellatan9016]

Another one of your gems, HG! Thank you

[@susannamanzano6910]

H.G. Tudor, your guidance is invaluable! For me: 5 siblings' bullying while I (alone) implemented OUR Father's final yrs of need; THEN, as his Survivor Trustee (enduring 5 N's emotional "torture"), I was hospitalized, for Stress, Anxiety, & Depression. The "torture" has continued as a 6-yr living-nightmare, til I was forced to disappear from my own ordained life! Your help - here - to understand the inconceivable - has proved life-saving! Thank you! S.

[@hgtudor-theultra]

You are welcome.

[@donnadaniels5095]

Thank you HG my favorite narcissist⚘🎯 thank you for the truda treatment you are so right about everything I do not waste my time all the EX narcissist🤡 keep coming back🤷‍♀️ I know my worth , I keep my boundaries up I know how to deal with them no emotions💃

[@Sunray786]

Thank you Mr Narcissist🙏 you are too kind🌻

[@sumbals]

Not to play their game just get out n stay out

[@tocharahurst1153]

Manipulation is a insult to Me along with the back hand comments. My anxiety can only take so much lies and gossip. It's like we playing pic a boo. BBY games

[@Real2k25]

Sure is

[@roseagainministry]

Your videos saved my life and brought about my escape! GOSO Forever! Thank You HG!

[@peacefulpath222]

HG did your narcissism start with trauma from childhood? Thank you for all the information you give to those of us who aren’t narcissistic to help us understand how these patterns of behaviour work

[@hgtudor-theultra]

A combination of a genetic predisposition and a lack of control environment. You will learn more about what that lack of control environment was.

[@PerrySkyePhoenix]

I never wanted revenge. I only wanted him to love me back. Love is a battlefield with the narcissist, and I can't win. I've been fighting this battle since birth. It all started with my mother. My questions are: How do I beat my addiction to narcissists? Are "normal" relationships even possible for someone like me?

[@G3tWoKe]

I have to disagree with Tudor this time. Im the boss when im around narcissists. I dont put up with their BS. I have 43 years of experience with these individuals. Not saying i can control them all but i absolutely am confident in my abilities. I always "win".

[@ThisMelMel]

Yes. Thank you. I need to listen to this every single day.

[@adriandeaconeasa3495]

HG Tudor you are the Master Puppeteer! Indeed, I was forced to learn defensive manipulation 20 years ago(now, I'm 40). When I manipulated her/them was just for them to understand that I know they play a game and also to make them believe/perceive that I can manipulate too. Indeed, when I manipulate, I do not feel joy, happiness. I feel nothing. I see manipulation as immature behavior! I am not interested in winning something or beating someone( this is a narccisistic perspective). I want them to stop or be stopped. You, Narc God, tell us that they will never stop. It is in their nature. But they can be stopped! You teach us so well! Thank you for being!

[@phoebemarple5094]

I beat the Greater!! It can be done! I've watched my sibling play his games, devalue and use people my whole life. I was the scapegoat I moved to UK and 20 yrs later came back. He upped the stakes when parent died. I watched I kept track and I played stupid, I played weak. Gave sibling enough rope and he fucked up (underestimated a super empath) then I made my move! I (metaphorically) beat him to a bleeding mushy pulp. It can be done, play stupid, but don't miss a trick, keep your eye on the balll and when the time is right strike , strike fast and hard and go for the juggler , you get one chance to go super nova use it well. I was terrified but it had to be done. Sure it was an epic smear campaign, I lost HIS family but I don't care. So my advice, play stupid but be very smart, make your escape plan and execute when the window opens then run like hell and never ever look back! My surviving 85 year old parent would be dead by now if I hadn't got her out. It's been 4 years of strict NO CONTACT!!

[@empress9857]

I believe it’s to not be emotional don’t mention any plan your disgard/escape when they least expected and dump them no responding no contact xyz and stick to it don’t give in to the Hoovers or tricks/tactics xyz and win I’m doing that now 😎

[@suelos2948]

You're not all right about everything cuz if you been with the narcissist long enough ...yeah you know how to play their game and you can even be better at it empath at all

[@AmberG777]

I agreeeeee SO much, especially if you are mentally strong and not neurotyoical!!!

[@Jettingred4]

Hg I am an ultra Empath. Today I finally blew completely ! I decimated the lying useless POS! And thankfully permanently went No Contact because really who wants to waste time with an idiot anyway? Just an aside. He went into an absolute rage when I said I was feeling a bit “peckish”! He thought that meant I was pecking at him lol! Not the brightest bulb on the Xmas tree! Screamed at me to speak American!

[@sherimascote7850]

Narcissistic games are not real false in their own illusion.

[@micheleshively8557]

We never had friends. I have friends whom I've known since childhood, and still talk to them. He never had a friend, one. He would find something wrong with everyone. Either they wanted to steal all his crap or they were plotting his demise in some fashion. Unbelievable how paranoid they are about EVERYTHING!! I couldn't deal with this. Especially when he was high on meth, which was for at least 7 out the 20 years we were together.

[@terrinbakker7901]

Yes you are right ... I need to leave the easy job

[@DaveTheTurd]

This is the only time I respectfully disagree with your conclusions. I can and have successfully manipulated the narc, and continue to do so. It's chess. If you can think a number of moves ahead, it's not difficult. If you can guide them into your desired outcome, and make sure they believe it was their idea, they feel like they're in control, and have no clue they're being played. You just have to be a good actor (since the narc can sense insincerity), and be willing to hold your nose and use third-party acquaintances to act as informational middlemen. I view it as an advanced acting lesson. No problems so far... knock on wood...

[@LulusMom1961]

Thank you, HG.

[@irenewatson]

@HG Tudor, Hi HG tuned in to see how you are.Quite a video this one.Noone else is near your standard or the velvet voice.

[@aslynnecaron3242]

I don’t play mind games, tho learn life lessons. Nor do I compete with others but with my own self. Don’t take score other than striving for self improvement. So when the tennis ball goes out of bounds I take advantage run/jump up to it. Laugh at all the rules whilst owning their games, with authentic smiles I lift myself up off of the ground piloting my life. Always working on Mastering Love,Life,Truth,Justice & Peace, I AM. Thank you, HG for your guidance. ⭐️⭐️⭐️ ⚔️ ⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@jayneweaver8695]

From experience you, Empath or normal person WIN when you go No Contact immediately. Forty years ago dated a lawyer narc and after him an Entrepreneur both varying degrees of Narc. NOW, both have fizzled and did so a/b 10 to 15 years ago. Lawyer, this side of having his license revoked, fat, balding, ANGRY, both now washed up, laughing stocks. The E who used to be gorgeous is now flailing, old looking even though he's only 62. He smells of not bathing and his business just filed for bankruptcy. Go NO CONTACT and then just sit back. Smile.

[@SchwarzNic]

You can definitely beat the narc All it takes is dedication and perseverance You will find if you investigate thoroughly, you will find others in the narcs life who also felt something was ‘off’ Think of the most important thing to a narc- and take it away If you want some advice - message me- as I’ve actually done this However I was dealing with a psychopath He was targeting disabled women I couldn’t walk away from that However now I won the game, I have intervention order in place which means he cannot come near me for two years

[@blandcranston5439]

Man, you're top tier with your discussions and explanations. It's fascinating that you are saying it's absolute.... that narcissists can't be "beaten" at manipulation. I prefer to view things not as being beaten or beating anyone.... but, maybe that's why, there's not a logical way for an "empathetic person" (can't say I'm an empath or anything specific)... to go against a person whose instinct is wired for manipulation. It's strange though, how empaths have narcissistic traits. Maybe the only way to manifest comeuppance against a narcissist, are.... well, things I wouldn't do. But, yeah, I wouldn't be able to go head to head vs. a narcissist 24/7. I'm sorry that you're.... stuck with manipulation, man. I mean, you're at an elite level, so there's that. But, damn. In a sense, flat out.... it IS absolute.... you're influencing/manipulating everyone who puts money in your coffers.

[@tapashyarasaily1373]

Thanks HG...I need this the most

[@ruthslivsgaard7859]

Wow, super cool. Nearly thought it would be worth engaging. Now, not so much. The most helpful insight I've looked at and listened to in a long time. 🤘

[@mosaiceyes2020]

As you can see, I didn't finish my posting. I pressed the send key accidentally. I feel such anger towards you H.G. You remind me of him, lucky you!

[@i.l.9546]

Let me tell you you can win IF you know from the beginning what you are dealing with. Then use those narc tactics plus empathic traits and you got two strong weapons. A narc only has one. I know. These battles will cause harm and I have some wounds and scars but finally I won against my malignant sister, my mother and my exhusband in every way. I appreciate HG but he is just a narcissist and a psychopath and we all are limited by what our brain enables us to.

[@psychologycontact9921]

Who has time to play with an abuser? A fool.

[@ElanaVital83]

People don't always have a choice.

[@Vixinaful]

I told mine of his behaviour towards me, he broke down but it ended with me consolidating HIM for being sad about what he had done to me, lol! It doesnt matter though, the important thing is Im out of it and am still alive to tell the tale..

[@marioescobedo5854]

The only way to beat a narcissist is by beating them at the spot as they try to humiliate you or whatever antic they use, not weeks later or months, years. If you do you will lose a lot, your joy, peace of mind, maybe even self, and they will delight in that. And if you do beat them at the spot, they will most likely seek revenge. If you did not beat them at the spot, just keep pushing forward, hopefully you surpass them in life w/ success one day and they notice that they couldn’t stop you.

[@stephaniebuker1812]

I have no desire to light the fuse of a bomb continually. I've put an end to my relationship with matches and bombs.

[@Vision-uz5ln]

A great book to read if your dealing with a narccissist is "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. The first principal of War is Deception.

[@hgtudor-theultra]

It absolutely is not. You will make error after error using this approach. I recently explained in detail on my blog to a reader how such an approach is wrong and would result in catastrophic outcomes. GOSO.

[@Vision-uz5ln]

@@hgtudor-theultra When I was involved with my ex, I was still in the emotional vibration state. I had to learn tools for my own mental and emotional survival. I learned a lot from this book and it ultimately made it a little easier to navigate the land mine I was on. I have been 3 years no contact now.

[@Vision-uz5ln]

He is a diagnosed NPD I must of done something right because I think back now and try to find errors that I made and can not honestly say I mad them.

[@ruready705]

I whooped on my narcissist I let her think she was manipulating me and then told her in the end I knew everything her face of shock was the best I win no contact haven't talked to her since

[@BS-wd7do]

Can you do a more recent video on how no contact effects the narcissist? No contact as in when a victim maintains it despite a narcissists attempts to breach it.

[@intuitiveempress217]

Exactly. They do not care. You’re now irrelevant to them. No longer good supply. They’re focused on the new supply that give them the ego boost they desire. 🤷‍♀️

[@judithwilliams765]

I publicly humiliated him every time he friends me on Facebook. Still continued to send friend requests until I blocked him for good. So entitled and arrogant. Thought I'd forget he was a Demon and not troll his page. I got some revenge. He can stay blocked forever now. I don't care anymore.

[@mosaiceyes2020]

You enrage me with your advice. I don't like being told I can't win this game. I recently started listening to your videos. I'm recognizing that my brother's abusive controlling behavior is that of a narcissist. Maybe even a sociopath like you are, but I need to research more of you, re videos to come to that conclusion. I find you frustrating, I feel yet

[@anjumghazali4805]

Excellent food for thought

[@kennethhasuik8042]

Exactly! Informative video.

[@gabriela3338]

Thank you HG. All these videos are full of knowledge. They have helped me so much✌🏽💜

[@garycordle5295]

Don't play the game 🎯

[@PhascolarctosVU]

Thanks, HG

[@obiwan9236]

I use to enjoy playing this game with narcs, but it just got old and now I'm done!

[@cintia6849]

I somewhat disagree… I have beaten a few narcs, by knowing what they were and anticipating their behaviours and then acting as if they were getting what they wanted from me to then delivering them their heads on a platter. I do no contact eventually , but if they come for me, because they seek fuel, they learn this empath has teeth, claws and brain as sweet as I may seem. A narc colleague of mine, once tried to turn me against an empath colleague she didn’t like, by smearing her and telling me she was speaking hill of me in a meeting. I pretended to believe her, to be oh so affected, and then spoke to my colleague knowing quite well she hadn’t done nothing of sorts… then that colleague reported the narc to the manager… it was a blast to suddenly come into the back office and hear the manager asking the narc “why did you lie?” And she was like “ahmmm… ahmmm… ahammmm…” she only stayed one more month in the job… There’s been a few other stories, even against my narc father… who trained me well. I don’t go after narcs, but if they come for me and my narc radar beeps, I do show them either by anticipating them, or their behaviour, or no contact, or coldness there’s nothing for you here but hunger and pain.

[@i.l.9546]

I agree. To act as if to believe them does work bc they think we are not intelligent. But we can deceive and distract and lie and whine and acting and all these things like they do. I also educated myself during the relationship and at the end took revenge for the two destroyed wifes before me. He got a huge narcissistic crisis and Im fine with it.