How To Behind The Neck Press Properly! (ADVANCED LIFTERS ONLY!)

The Behind The Neck Press is a GREAT exercise to build BIG Shoulders that no one knows about. Danny explains the best way to perform the press for great shoulder growth all the while making sure to keep the exercise safe for you.
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3 Sets of 8-12 Reps
- Set bar height the same as Barbell Back Squat
- Put bar on back like squat
- Bend Knees
- Pop the bar up
- Arms fully extended
- Row bar right down to the middle of the head
- Cheat and push press the bar upwards
- If you don’t have the mobility, regress to a traditional press and work from there
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[@mr.policeman6129]

A lot of people say this exercise is unsafe and they might be right , but i love doing it. It blew my shoulders up.

[@aaronwylie6928]

It's totally safe if you don't go heavy and don't go so far down your head as he says. And it's amazing for mobility and shoulders.

[@aaronwylie6928]

@Mithrandir Yep Bench Press is the only exercise where I have gotten myself pinned

[@markomaglic2856]

@@aaronwylie6928 thats why you should never put those pins to keep your weight from slideing to the sides, then once you get pinned down by the bar you can simply lean the bar towards the ground and weight falls off. Another great technice which i personaly use is roll the bar on your stomach and simply stand up. My bench max is 120kg and one time i failled with 100kg i just rolled it down with ease. I suggest you praktice this couple of times to get comfortable with it 50% Of 1 Rep Max +/-

[@kisbob5254]

Same here. Much better than lateral raises!

[@stinkletoes8285]

Lat raises give me insane burn....I incorporate both back to back@@kisbob5254

[@davidjmazur]

The graphic overlay of the scapula at about 2:20 is *super* helpful. Hope to see more of these in future videos (as appropriate).

[@MindPumpTV]

David Mazur Our Video team is incredible.

[@DaBrute]

So many bench press bros with internally rotated shoulders crying that this is unsafe. Yes, if you have limited external rotation in your shoulders and poor thoracic extension then this one isn't for you, but if you're mobile enough to set it up correctly its great for targeting the delts

[@MindPumpTV]

DaBrute great additions. I think you really hit the nail on the head. Per supplemental research/what I’ve seen in the tenches. IF external rotation is limited then your not going to have a good time with this form of press. A great way to check is with a seated Dumbell OHP w no back to the bench. You’ll see down stream compensations at the thoracic/lumbar spinal areas. Works the other way too, if you don’t have the thoracic mobility that too can create issues. That being said if the lifter has capacity to externally rotate, has thoracic mobility, scapular stability, then go right ahead with relatively modest load.

[@frazix7075]

What are the benefits of this exercise

[@lMobiuscidl]

Thanks.

[@blaisepecquet7476]

@@frazix7075 from my experience it is a good way to just target the rear and mid delts instead of just the fronts like a normal push press

[@frazix7075]

@@blaisepecquet7476 yes but if you externally rotate the shoulders the front delts will be on top and they will still eat the entire movement

[@mbBoyce]

There's alot of opinion on this, professional and armchair. Here is my take based on my experience plus research that includes opinions from both ranks. I did this exercise heavy, 5 days a week, minimum 30 reps over several sets up to 100 reps over a handful of sets. I did this for years off and on with no issues. Then I fell out of the habit of daily exercise and 20 years later I resumed my old routines in an attempt to reclaim my youthful shape. This exercises contributed to impingement that took many months to recover from. After recovery I learned to improve my shoulder mobility and now I am back to doing this with no problems. My conclusion is this is a risky exercise as is nearly every other weight lifting movement. This is only riskier in that we do not always account for our mobility restrictions. I did not know about mobility when I was younger and did not understand that was something I lost over the years. My injuries healed and I regained the ability to perform this exercise which I have always loved as a good strengthening movement. Videos like this should not be removed as they can help provide information on how to safely do an exercise, especially for controversial movements like this one.

[@AustinChubak]

Great assessment.

[@CrowandRaven]

What sort of mobility exercises did you use to improve shoulder mobility for this exercise?

[@Tom-vu1wr]

@@CrowandRaven look up overhead mobility exercises

[@joseantoniomoch4006]

I use a 68lb barbell for 5 sets, 12 reps, daily. I feel I could easily go some 40lbs heavier, but I think that'd be risky. What do you think?

[@artv4nd3l4y]

Yeah I believe one reason the movement is demonized is because of the wide variance between people and shoulder mobility. My assumption is some people need more time to build up to this movement, some people may have a harder time than others. Think of scoliosis, if you have that squatting and deadlifting are just not for you. I think the takeaway from this, is to use your best judgement and determine risk vs reward for yourself. I also can understand why coaches just don't program it, you wouldn't want to be the one who chose a movement that hurt one of your lifters. But just like you say, you can get hurt doing anything. Most back and shoulder injuries are from silly things, like picking up a small child, taking out the garbage. I'd rather have a good story if I ever got hurt, and say yeah man I was deadlifting over 500lb for reps and you know what happens.

[@AlexChan66]

This exercise developed my vertical upward strength tremendously. I do yoga and for my full backbend bridge, it was do-able but after some time with this exercise, I could just fly up and even lift one leg off the ground.

[@alternatedemon6060]

Doing this aswell as the overhead press is definitely insane for delts. Just did it yesterday, shoulders definitely a lot more sore than usual.

[@UltraFitDancer]

Thanks! This was just added to my program and your cues are perfect.

[@DSiegmeister]

I saw this workout in another video. You explained it way better. But this workout even at light weight has helped me out tremendously. I usually do around 1 to 2 tens on each side with 3 sets 8 to 12 reps. It's not much but has helped my other shoulder workouts

[@luisnunez6857]

Perfectly explained thanks dude.

[@kylafodi]

Excellent information as usual. Thank you for all the tips.

[@MindPumpTV]

Kyla Fodi hope you can put it to use.

[@chill_nrg5349]

Great vid. Super informative. Loved the rotated scapula illustration.

[@mohamedelsherief3662]

Great video. If you have tips for pushups and pullups. Oh and for whole body home training using bands and dumbbells. Thanks

[@KinoDerTactical]

Been lifting for about 3 years. Just put these into the program and pinched my goddamn nerve in the upper mid back, kinda towards the left side. Had to call out of work. On each rep I let the bar go all the way down to the traps, and seeing what the scapula do there, I think you just showed me the cause for my injury. Thank you.

[@kobebig1]

Facts! I found it easier to have a spotter lift from dead point. Safer on the rotator. I’m able to hit 185lb so far with no issues. Thx. Nice video 👌🏽

[@DanielGutierrez-dy3rr]

very precise thanks!

[@user-zm9gc1kt8b]

😎👌 great video mate

[@Gromst3rr]

Thanks for the tips

[@bunstie5208]

The visual graphic of the scapula was perfect. Great concise video! Helped a ton for me

[@60kgofpower68]

i always go all the way down to traps with no pain ... the movements itself strenghtens the rotators if done safely

[@lucentshadow]

I find that a wider grip and actively scapular retracting throughout the whole movement gives me plenty of room to work with.

[@MindPumpTV]

Lucent Shadow that’s really all that matters. Do they work for YOU? Hopefully you are able to, and have developed a good enough ability to understand your body that you can do this on all exercises.

[@g111_]

great information

[@MrDesertmike]

Excellent demo & description. I just wish you would have said not for beginners. But I’m not on the channel & you gave great warnings

[@leftyseel8658]

I always bring it down all the way to the shoulder level. Didn't know it is dangerous til now. I'll try it your way.

[@afrodude4782]

I'm attempting behind the neck press fr the first time. I did much better in weight than expected, but absolutely recommend taking your time and starting with an empty barbell

[@NOAH576]

Thanks for the info. I was doing it all the way down, now I know that’s a bit much.

[@lastshotbang2457]

Thanks a lot~!

[@kylestaker9279]

What grip width do you recommend for front presses both seated and standing?

[@MrPender1]

good stuff

[@alexcastellanos3188]

very good video

[@Pendragon981]

I prefer the behind the head shoulder press like this to the regular shoulder press especially with the balance of a barbell rather than dumbells, it just feels good and feels right if done properly.

[@bennygilligan]

I love behind the neck press a great movement

[@MindPumpTV]

Benny Gilligan glad you like it

[@marco7838]

Can this exercise build muscle in the rear delt??m

[@mgtow-balance3409]

oh by the way, we actually get indirect rotator stress, but don't get enough direct rotator work. i recommend a good rotator cuff warm-up before doing any upper body movement. and of course, especially when it's shoulder day

[@Rageof1000Mongooses]

Does anybody do the wall press version of this?

[@mgtow-balance3409]

my favorite shoulder movement. however, i lower the bar as much as possible. his hand spacing was a little too narrow, hence bad scapula movement. to accomplish good movement: when the bar is head height, both arms should be at 90 degree angles, maybe a little wider, but never less

[@atwilsonjr]

can this build the back of the neck?

[@luisookie]

You’re the BEST ‼️ Well explained, no more talking, let’s pump those cannon balls

[@therockakaada6109]

Excellent review, this is the best exercise for shoulders and posture, just remember full range of motion is the key done safely for healthy shoulders and rotator cuffs!

[@MiguelCastro-ow5ho]

If you consider this to be a "safe" way of building the deltoids then what do you consider to be unsafe?

[@ferbianoronaldo5238]

From what I have read behind the neck press is not a safe exercise, however I have always felt a better pump when doing this movement than the traditional shoulder press, Danny do you believe the exercise is safe?

[@bigal98761]

As someone who had two shoulder surgeries this is a no go for me always hurts if you don't have shoulder problems you'll be fine

[@funkam0nkey]

I had some stiffness in shoulders and a bit of pain but after doing behind the neck press with light weight, my shoulders feel better. I've managed to get more weight on now and it's much easier.

[@MrBod4life]

Its a HORRIBLE exercise if you like your rotators

[@MindPumpTV]

All this is relative to the load, the lifters preparedness/stability. Not all lifters have the prerequisite mobility/stability to perform all lifts. to call something universally safe or unsafe is a bit of a stretch.

[@lastone87]

brent horton PT necessarily, if you have the mobility then it is ok. For someone starting or someone who hasn’t addressed shoulder mobility then yes, you are right. I have built up the mobility in my shoulders to not only press behind my neck, but also bringing the bar down to my traps before I press it up.

[@raphaeldiogo1583]

Shoulder workout with arms playlist

[@takashi-lee3943]

In my opinion you should come down to your traps because one day you’re not gonna be able to get it up and you need to be used to that Not to mention it’s a half rep If you’re mobility isn’t good enough to do that then I’d just avoid this until you get the mobility to do so. Face pulls, rows, rear delt work are great for getting this mobility

[@pradeepal3276]

From India Nice video sir

[@tylerlamb9930]

One thing I have noticed when watching old school bodybuilding videos and pictures with Arnold, Lee Haney, Frank Zane, Lou Ferrigno, ect.... is that they have really wide grips on the btn press while the regular press they have narrow grips. Like the hands are almost touching the plates on the barbell. I'm guessing old instructions never said use wide grips on the btn press and everyone assumed you used the same hand placement on both press variations. This imo why the btn press got a bad rep for injuries is because you shouldn't use the same grip width as the front.

[@hueypokkoo7350]

I just did 300 lbs for two on this . Been working out for 15 years now. The title makes sense. I don't go ear level though. I stay above it. Like just above the ear level. Able to do a 90 degree angle and has never had any issues with it. Going lower may be scary though.

[@vandoan7949]

I wouldn’t try 300 in that kind of position but good on you

[@hueypokkoo7350]

@@vandoan7949 thanks man. I guess there are just those exercises that we're just strong at. 🤜🤛

[@satwoods4]

I was going to comment about this movement,but it does state "advanced lifters"...so doing it properly is the main goal to avoid injury👍🏿

[@MindPumpTV]

Shareef Atwoods as is the case with all lifts!

[@satwoods4]

Right you are!...no offense😁

[@MindPumpTV]

Shareef Atwoods none taken. Thank you for the respectful dialogue.

[@luisnunez6857]

Your right about what you said doing it correctly and not to heavy.

[@lastone87]

What would we need to correct if we notice our wrist breaking or our knuckles starting to not point up but behind us? Thanks for the great vid! 💪

[@MindPumpTV]

Its likely a stability issue at the wrist - i would simply regress in load (drop the weight) or lower the velocity of the bar path.

[@lastone87]

Mind Pump TV I’ll try both, thanks!

[@PEEERRRR]

A really good way to judge depth of the movement is stopping eye level. That's how I originally learned years ago.

[@MindPumpTV]

This is a good cue.

[@wolverine6562lex]

Many Likes for you, can I do it in a smith machine? Which is better?

[@straightgains6239]

Hey great and informative video thanks for uploading. Just found you're channel and will definitely be following is i'm open to learn so much more about lifting. I just started lifting myself and have just passed the 8 week mark. I have made a compilation of the progress of the physique as well. I'm currently on a barbell program called starting strength and i'm striving for a 150 KG bench and more within 2 years. All help is welcome and that's why i'm glad I found your channel. Keep up the good work and I wish everyone a gaining and healthy day. Peace

[@georgeschlanger3129]

StraightGains good to see you here too bro Thats some good progress keep it up

[@MrBod4life]

I suggest you look elsewhere for bigger stronger delts especially since you are just starting. This is potentially a very dangerous exercise especially for beginners

[@MindPumpTV]

Hopefully this can be a place you can learn and engage in a discussion that makes you better.

[@MindPumpTV]

Not everyone is fragile. Matter of fact, working in novel ranges of motion, while stable, with appropriate loading is a great way to build resialance.

[@straightgains6239]

@@MrBod4life Thanks for your reply, When would it be advisable to start doing this exercise? and what do you think of my overheadpress form? would love to hear. Peace

[@simonpeters5977]

Am I missing something? The rotation of the scapula has nothing to do with the rotator cuff. The rotation happens by the serratus anterior and the traps.

[@RUS-dv5sm]

So what's the difference between conventional overhead press and behind the neck press?

[@MindPumpTV]

RUS load/vector relative to the deltoid. A unique way to press.

[@pessumpower]

Also, the upper chest cannot help much pressing behind the neck, so you take that out of the equation, more work has to be done by the delts/triceps.

[@artv4nd3l4y]

Excellent video overall, I don't like how people demonize the movement so much. Say what you will about Mike O Hearn, but he does this with three plates. He has world class genetics yes, but other people that do still can get hurt. Clearly there is something to this.

[@youtubesbichasspolicys5888]

6 years ago when I first went to a gym I figured this was the overhead press, honestly prefer it over all other press types

[@-mrbruce-8149]

Is it normal that I feel more fatigue and soreness in the triceps rather than the shoulders doing any form of overhead press?

[@pessumpower]

With a closer grip there is a great triceps activation too.

[@stinkletoes8285]

Many say these are dangerous...They say same about uptight row/s...I do both these without issue...I think it depends on every individual...just like any other evercise...(eg)some get sore elbows overhead extension..others dont...etc...I do go lighter with these aswell as upright rows...higher rep(12-15)...I think a well rounded plan should incorporate both.

[@hiranhasaranga6450]

Why do you even do a exercise that can't keep your neck in a neutral position?

[@HashFace253]

started doing these out of sillyness thought id die now i look like a line backer. Trust the Quah and do it

[@kamalahmed5057]

Who and what

[@2600_Josh]

I do these squatting

[@TheOlzee]

I feel this a lot in my traps. That normal?

[@MrBod4life]

I suggest you NOT do this exercise

[@MindPumpTV]

If you feel this in your traps you likely do not have the requisite external rotation, or are lacking the stability. Is it the lower or upper trap? This would be a helpful note.

[@TheOlzee]

Mind Pump TV upper traps I also do it on a smith machine so maybe that fixed position is the cause but I’ve heard that makes it safer

[@AleUkko]

Im really good at overhead press my pr is 95kg but holy shit this made me go back to 50kg🤣

[@rudymelo880]

Snap city

[@abeu]

That elbow lock tho...

[@jayworkman5792]

It’s always been my understanding that there’s no significant benefits to this exercise vs the standard OHP, but there is a higher chance of injury if done incorrectly. In short, an increase in risk without any additional reward. Is this a misunderstanding or a myth?

[@bigal98761]

I had two shoulder surgeries and this hurts but in front doesn't hurt at all

[@MindPumpTV]

All relative to the lifter - this particular variation of the overhead press is quite safe when performed with all the requisite cues/checkpoints being adressed.

[@dennismunyaka6537]

haha my delts are fried

[@Jlindss]

make sure you make your appointment with the chiropractor/ Physio Therapist as a super-set

[@MindPumpTV]

Good joke - the movement was originally taught to me by brilliant biomechanist who I trust understands the loading capacity of living tissues well enough to teach it safely. To the unprepared lifter perhaps it could be dangerous, but this is the case with many movments.

[@pessumpower]

There is no pinching in the shoulder as long as you keep your scapula elevated, it's completely safe if you know what to do, most people have no idea and they injure themselves. Pretty much like deadlifts with a rounded back.

[@PortableFreezer]

Lol imma have to skip this one until I've gone to the doctor about my shoulder muscle looking like a tennis ball

[@PortableFreezer]

Lol I just saw my own comment. Yea doctor did nothing and since this comment I had rest due to Corona and it still looks like tennisball.

[@fitness75gympower72]

The behind-the-neck press is an exercise that targets your shoulders. However, it can put extra strain on your neck and shoulders, so many people advise against it. If you have poor shoulder mobility and stability, it's best to avoid this move.

[@ridgegruntoutdoors3808]

I absolutely love behind the neck press, don’t hate because you can’t do it.

[@solofitness7]

Bonus tip: for the pump do one rep shoulder press & back press in a superset, believe me you wont regret & increase the weight gradually. thank me later

[@eddinep4688]

The press behind the shoulders places the muscles in an unnatural position and over time lifters can and probably will experience severe soreness and if continued, damage to the deltoid area. My recommendation, as well as many other lifters, is to either remove this from your routine or don’t begin it at all.

[@MindPumpTV]

What about external rotation is unnatural? I would certainly agree that some lifters might have a problem, but external rotation is not "unnatural".

[@eddinep6535]

@@MindPumpTV This is not something new. Numerous lifters have criticized this movement. Just put your arms up behind your head and you can feel the stress to the shoulders.

[@howard19]

Ed Dinep an overhead, externally rotated, slightly behind the neck press basically mimics the weightlifting motion of jerking the bar and placing it over your head. There’s nothing unnatural. Just a high injury risk for people who don’t know what they’re doing

[@MindPumpTV]

I agree with the statement that the lift shown and the lift you mentioned (the jerk) are for lifters with a good coach overseeing them, or some training experience under their belt. I 100% agree with that. I would say the same thing of the clean, front squat, anteriorly loaded bb OHP - essentially any of the commonly used olympic work/olympic assistance work.

[@eddinep4688]

Howard It’s not the placing over the head that creates major stress, it’s bringing the bar down behind the neck that causes damage.

[@arenuzzle6282]

It's only fragile cause you don't load in that range . I go as deep as my trap . If you mobility is crap you got to work on it .

[@jameskavanagh7092]

I thought this exercise put your rotator cuff in an unnatural plane?

[@MindPumpTV]

James Kavanagh that degree of external rotation is fine for many. As is the case with anything, qualify your mobility and preparedness first.

[@PhillipSchlueter]

Holy crap! The risk to benefit ratio on this exercise is terrible. No one should attempt this. There is almost no benefit and extreme risk! Sadly I see lots of older guys doing behind the neck pulling and pushing. SMH

[@TheRMHell]

Phillip Schlueter so true, unsubscribing right now

[@MrBod4life]

Ya man I agree...what the heck was MP Tv thinking!!!???

[@pike815]

Phillip Schlueter cry.

[@MindPumpTV]

Should someone who performs the snatch perform the behind the neck press? Should someone with excellent shoulder mobility/stablity NOT perform the overhead press? To say "No one" . . . is a stretch.

[@madysarr8845]

@@TheRMHell You will not be the only one. They gonna loose a lots of subscribers on this one

[@berserker1363]

Rocky press has separate fanbase

[@kaibahseto]

unsafe exercise but i am sure it works to build muscle

[@MindPumpTV]

Safe is a relative term. I believe it the exercise is performed as cued by a lifter with the requisite shoulder mobility, stability, and control it is a safe version of the behind the neck shoulder press - an exercise many are able to do pain-free. Think about how many uneducated individuals say things like "squats are bad for your knees" or "deadlifts are dangerous" - its all relative and describing a movement as unsafe is relative as well.

[@Jerome____]

Losers will always say behind the neck is unsafe.. very good old exercise for correcting the posture and to develop deltoid muscles.

[@petrak5087]

excellent but guys its not ''cheat press'', its push press and its a legit exercise

ok men

[@stevyd6349]

Watch olympic lifters, they train behind the head press all the time. And they ARE fitness experts.

[@Joeaxtell]

Stop reading my mind!

[@HashFace253]

Do a weight you can talk with talk danny boueee ya wont rip yer arms oot

[@striding3722]

no delts were seen in this video.

[@ericmclellan6676]

You did not specify this in your video. You need to inform the public of the dangers. And how dare you compare to throwing a ball and behind the neck press with a heavy load. They are not even in the same category what so ever.

[@johanesterhuizen1842]

Eric McLellan yes , unilateral movement with little load and involving a more natural movement pattern than pushing a heavy load behind your head

[@chablisboy]

Sir, I write as the holder of an honours degree in physiotherapy. In my opinion you are promoting an exercise that endangers the physical well being of those who view you as an expert in your field. This quite simply is wrong. You are advocating a movement that places the anterior and superior structures of the shoulder in great peril - especially as you are prescribing a medium to high rep range. The behind the neck overhead press is in no way sport specific and fails to take into account the natural angle of the glenoid fossa of the scapula. As you will be aware the glenoid fossa is directed laterally and most importantly 30-40 degrees forward. Performing the behind the head press forces the head of the humerus to translate forward and up, thus compromising the anterior and superior structures of the shoulder. This movement occurs even when the scaula has elevated, posteriorly tilted and rotated externally with arm elevation. I urge you to withdraw this video to protect those who may injure themselves as a result of your instruction and to protect yourself from potential malpractice claims from those who suffer shoulder injuries as a result of your incorrect advice. Please refer to the instructional video at kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5DKfYyCe9Cdn9k for further discussion on this matter.

[@goatlps]

100%! Shameful advice. Terrible exercise for anyone and everyone, eventually it destroys your shoulders PERMANENTLY.

[@jonduke4748]

Retracting the scapula changes the effective scapular plane. Not that it actually changes but the rotation has changed the overall shoulder position... Exactly as the shoulder was designed to do. Else nobody could put their arms behind their heads. The retraction itself can cause undue stress if too much range and or weight is used, else the risk is minimal. Older Body builders could do this lift with nearly 300 pounds without issue. I would not recommend that much weight irregardless.

[@Xilladan093]

@@jonduke4748 bs on the 300 if experts like dmitry klokov have a max of 286. so shut up

[@Tom-vu1wr]

@@Xilladan093 haha yes they could. Y would u not think they could do more weight than klokov. He's strong but they were bigger

[@asher1371]

Forearms should be vertical at bottom of movement - model's grip was too narrow. This takes pressure off wrists at the bottom and increases range of motion. Also you can avoid the whole cheating the bar up by setting the bar on the highest peg and squatting underneath it with arms locked out overhead, and unracking. Also makes for safer reracking. Lastly, you shouldn't jump 10-20 lbs at once on this. 5lbs (2.5lb plates). Great exercise, flawed presentation. The OHP press is popular but extremely mediocre as a shoulder exercise since it only hits the front delts hard, and requires more technique (curvy bar path). BTN has a nice straight bar path.

[@nolanstojentin8086]

I feel the need to comment on this. You guys clearly know nothing about the history of the press and press behind neck and to the extent it has been used in the past and currently (by some of the best olympic lifters in the world). Nobody listened the what the guy said, this exercise is NOT for everyone. The best way to think of this exercise for the average gym bro is to think of it as one of the olympic lifts (or variation). Ex. The full barbell snatch is an excellent exercise, when done properly. Now if someone performs the movement for the first time and has no experience and little control, the potential for injury in the snatch in this case is large. An olympic lifter who competes in the snatch will not have the same risk of injury. So basically, if you are the type of person who is scared of the olympic lifts and acts like they are some form of foreign language, then you should absolutely not perform the behind the neck press. IF you are a person who has a good grasp and experience with exercises the the full snatch and clean and jerk and are aware of the proper positions one must be in to perform them correctly and safely, then this is literally the best shoulder exercise you will find and will reap immense benefits from including this lift. The old timers had a great way of putting things, if you are still not convinced than you must read this article by Reg Park (also a huge BNPresser and owner of some amazing deltoids/shoulders. ditillo2.blogspot.com/2011/10/my-shoulder-training-reg-park.html

[@Powd3r81]

So many presumptuous people on this video. The title says advanced lifters, and advanced is not synonymous with casual gym Bros. It requires sufficient mobility and concentration, in order to properly execute and adjust if being done improperly. Listen to your bodies

[@ian5220]

go all the way down pu55y.

[@MrBod4life]

The Behind The Neck Press is a GREAT exercise to get a shoulder impingement too..SMH..This exercise is worse then the upright row for shoulder health/longevity. You really think people have the rotator strength and shoulder stability+mobility to perform this exercise without potential long term damage??? think again..How many people do you know have protracted shoulders already and now you are gonna compromise the shoulder even more!???

[@bigal98761]

Exactly this hurts my shoulders bad I had two shoulder surgeries and I'm fine just doing in front of the neck with no pain at all

[@MindPumpTV]

This is a good thing to know. Given that you have some contraindications (shoulder surgeries) perhaps external rotation capacity is limited. Knowing what movements you can perform and progressively overload safely is critical to longevity and performance. That being said, i think it is fair to say that a lifter who has capacity to perform the movement shown safely can do this variation as well.

[@MindPumpTV]

I think people do. Yes. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYvGZ31ubsdkY6c heres an example. This is someone who is exhibiting all the things mentioned AND THEN SOME. This is an extreme example of course, but an example nonetheless. Your opinion and caution around the shoulder is very much appreciated as it is a joint that requires additional considerations due to its unique structure/attatchment.

[@mattmcdonald8614]

You want big shoulder? Stick with dumbbell presses and barbell to the front. You want an impingement? Do this stupid move.

[@Xilladan093]

shut up

[@jk26viper29]

this is unsafe if you are one of those idiots, who are ego lifter. you can’t lift heavy on this one.

[@Tom-vu1wr]

Yes u can

[@Tom-vu1wr]

Look at klokov

[@diegovelazquez9461]

Athlean x does not approve of this exercise therefore I do not do it

[@thelastbriton9896]

Appeal to Authority is a philosophical fallacy.

[@nolanstojentin8086]

He also showed the BNP "tearing" the shoulder on a fake skeleton. Keep in mind, this skeleton cannot defend himself, neither can the skeleton contract any of the posterior muscles of the shoulder girdle. The traps, rear delts, rhomboids, rotator cuff, and serratus all contribute to putting the scapula in the proper position against the ribcage for this movement to be done correctly. IF you are unable to do that as our skeleton with no muscle mass has been shown by Jeff, than you may want to consider that it is not the exercise and it is in fact your dysfunctional shoulder girdle that is the problem.

[@steveoriley5062]

Very bad form, should not be locking out, as you take away the tension. The seated version is safer and hits the musles more.

[@Sawstinker]

Lol at the haters. if you get injured doing this because you lack the external rotation and depression necessary to do it safely, don't blame the exercise

[@MrBod4life]

Um..how bout you lack intelligence of basic shoulder anatomy

[@bigal98761]

Not if you had shoulder surgery

[@CC-uh8gl]

Mong but it is the exercise. Do your homework

[@Sawstinker]

I'm not saying load it up for a 1rm or if you lack inferior stability from a labrum surgery. If you can't do this ROM without pain, you are probably overly kyphotic and lack GH and scapular control and mobility. There is nothing inherently wrong with this. I'm an athletic therapist to professional athletes, I know my anatomy. Stop hiding behind physical incapabilities and blaming the exercise

[@MindPumpTV]

Quite true. Again, as is the case with anything you a lifter must qualify their own capacity. Its almost as though the video should say "advanced lifters only" in the comments. I have noticed most lifters have great scapular control and above average external rotation as far as non-throwing athletes go.

[@crazyman5520]

Step one: Dont

[@gametight8282]

Smh he's literally shaking while doing this. I'll pass on this one, but there is some great content on this page

[@finnfly2132]

Just dont do this.. why would you risk shoulder health when you can just do it with the elbows in a much more natural position? This is straight up bad advice.