How to Build a 450whp F-150 Coyote 5.0!

[@DustyTater69]

Appreciate you talking about the exhaust mods in regards to which was more likely to "pass" an emissions test. I think that's a key factor for those of us considering these power gain investments while still trying to keep the truck "legal"

[@8020Media]

J - Absolutely! Keep us updated on your build.

[@slawdawg23]

Just found your channel. Love it. Great info for my 18 F150. I just put on a tune, a cold air intake and a catback exhaust. The difference was impressive. Next, I plan on converting to E85, then the headers and then the intake manifold. Keep up the good work.

[@8020Media]

Slaw - Love to hear this! Keep us updated on your build. Sounds like it's coming along nicely.

[@jacobeichman8480]

What tune

[@bobbyhammer4889]

I got a 2016 coyote f150, e85;tune is awesome in these trucks. I went with MPT Performance, and they're awesome.

[@8020Media]

Bobby - Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@TwinTurboLsx]

my 23 f150 with tune, cold air and Gt intake running 12.1 in 1/4 mile. ran a 12.75 with tune only.

[@8020Media]

Twin - Nice! Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@omarreynold6782]

4wd or 2wd?

[@TwinTurboLsx]

@@omarreynold6782 it’s 2wd.

[@8020Media]

Twin - Thanks for answering O!

[@elitheexplorer1489]

I have a 2024 TWD. Who did your tune…. Thanks!

[@jedimaster197]

Did a Mbrp muffler on my 15 F150 5.0L Coyote sounds so much deeper than stock, and way better mpgs, getting about 18.6 mpg, it was 17.3 before..

[@8020Media]

J - Thanks for sharing! We love a good MBRP upgrade.

[@wecandoanything1857]

Man got my 5.0l single cab coming! It's going to be more fun than my boosted Silverado I think !

[@8020Media]

W - Nice! Keep us updated.

[@christianhix1301]

me personally I noticed a huge upgrade from putting a 2018 Truck manifold on my 2011 5.0. Felt really torquey down low and still had good power up top

[@8020Media]

Christian - Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@wyattbostic590]

Do they bolt right on?

[@christianhix1301]

@@wyattbostic590 all 5.0 Manifolds are interchangeable. with the 2018 and up you have to lockout the IMRC if installing on a Gen 1. Boss 302 I had to cut one of the coolant lines and reroute due to its size. the 11-14, 15-17, 18-23, Boss 302, Shelby GT350, and Cobra Jet manifolds all are a direct replacement.

[@wyattbostic590]

@@christianhix1301 ok cool if a coolant line is all it sounds worth it to me

[@royrichardson9164]

Was it stock or ported?

[@Str8Ripper1776]

I did jlt intake, spd 3 inch hi flow catted downpipe, and 3 inch duals with x pipe on my 14 with an oz tune that has been adjusted to more of a performance base than their regular tune. Not sure how much power im making. Guessing around 400-420 crank or so on 89

[@8020Media]

S - Sounds like a sick build! Thanks for sharing.

[@GTfromAG]

My dream is to put A 5.0L in my 2007 Ford Explorer Sport Trac V8 🙏🏾😎💯

[@8020Media]

Coogi - Could definitely be an interesting build!

[@The147tacammo]

Get a 01 explorer 5.0 and have fun or find a junkyard 5.0 if you can Edit: my bad didn’t realize you meant yote but it’ll be cheaper getting the 5.0 from the early stangs or 01 explorer

[@8020Media]

147 - Great insight. Thanks for sharing.

[@Str8Ripper1776]

Not near the power or capability in a pushrod 5.0 ​@@The147tacammo

[@KannonBall001]

So i have cai and a borla s type on the way and wanted to upgrade intake manifold, is a custum tune mandatory after the manifold upgrade or can it wait til i upgrade more

[@8020Media]

K - We would recommend getting a custom tune once you're finished with all the bolt-on mods you are wanting to add.

[@angelurielpenaloza8367]

I have a gen 13 f150 5.0 I’m tryna go with a ported manifold gen 3 but idk if you have to do a tune when you change it

[@8020Media]

Angel - You don't typically have to, but it depends if they say that stage 2 is required or not.

[@angelurielpenaloza8367]

@@8020Media do you know when you go with a gen 3 manifold do the e85 injectors have to be from a 2018 or the gen 1 would fit

[@bryceforadory5175]

@@angelurielpenaloza8367 I have a 2014 f150 with a ported 18 manifold the stock injectors will fit but you will need to upgrade to bigger ones if running e85. I have LU47 injectors and running on E85 full bolt on

[@dannysavagedraftguru]

Re Gearing along with torque converters and shift kit will be biggest bang for Buck beside a super charger

[@8020Media]

Danny - Thanks for the insight here! Do you have a 5.0?

[@bigdawgs94]

Yo what shift kit??

[@dannysavagedraftguru]

@@8020Media sorry delayed response been racing cars all my life. Trust me forgot all the air intakes headers exhaust Run regular headers gut the cats run flow master muffler. Biggest bang for buck is Re gearing Plus high performance trans. Torque converter shift kit etc. That alone will feel like 100 horsepower improvement. Then down road throw a super charger on car up grade fuel system leave everything else alone And give a Trx a run for its money and all you did was drop 20 grand on high end into your 5.0

[@8020Media]

Danny - Thanks for adding this insight.

[@evanshireman5644]

These days a tune for the transmission does wonders. By the time you mess with torque converter, gearing, and shift kit you will be a couple grand short of a Whipple supercharger kit.

[@jaysanchez7577]

I have boss intake, K&N CAI, Velocity long tubes full 3 inch exhaust and custom dyno tune on e85 and make 375whp kind of disappointed. Looking to get 400+

[@8020Media]

J - Thanks for sharing your experience. Sounds like you've got quite the build already!

[@midnight347]

Your setup would gain a ton of power from intake manifold porting (the boss has the most gains of all the intakes when ported imo) and some l&m intake only cams. The intake cams aren't as good as mustang cams on the trucks and the l&m intake only cams pick up 20 rwhp on a gen 1 mustang coyote sometimes more with the right manifold without losing tq. It might lose slight tq against the truck cams but if it does it won't be much. I bet ported manifold and those cams would get you 50+ rwhp it would really wake it up and make it hold power much better up top without falling off.

[@8020Media]

M - Thanks for taking the time to assist a viewer!

[@timulm1221]

That's odd because it should be running that at stock.

[@ronaldq1653]

Good afternoon, Blessings, ask me, are 10-speed automatic transmission good or bad ford f150? I see comments on KZbin, 10-speed automatic has problems. Your opinion, are they reliable or not reliable like the previous 6-speed transmission?

[@8020Media]

It's still a little young, the first few years of it wasn't great didn't get a great reputation but I think they've made some tweaks and improvements. Now suppose it depends whether you're talking about leaving your truck stock or tossing more power at it?

[@thetruejay20]

Don't you need to swap the mustang cams at a minimum to really make any power?

[@8020Media]

Jay - It all kind of depends on how much power you are going for. Basic bolt-on's, no.

[@noahalbrooks8188]

@@8020MediaI want to make 400-450 I have a 2011 f150 motor doing a swap for my new edge I have gt350 intake manifold I have long tubes after a tune if I don’t change the cams how much power would I be looking at

[@8020Media]

Noah - You should be able to get to 400 if you follow the video. However, will be more difficult with a Gen 1.

[@jaysanchez7577]

Yes I think so sadly.

[@F_8_T_A_L]

Could you give me a List , If you have time for Everything that I can do to Mod My 2012 F-150 5.0 Everything but a Supercharger . I would love to add a Supercharger but they are not cheap .

[@8020Media]

F - The list is in the video or on our tuning pro website.

[@Brian_195]

Great video!

[@8020Media]

B - Thanks for the feedback! We hope it was helpful.

[@johnnycheese4532]

what about the newer F150's? 2021-23?

[@8020Media]

J - Too new to tell.

[@thirdayman]

My brother blew his 5.0 motor running e85. Stock motor, no tune, no mods, factory truck. Had cylinder scoring and cam phaser issues at 79K miles.

[@8020Media]

T - Wow.... Sorry to hear about this! Thanks for sharing this experience.

[@ThatGuy-rf8de]

I doubt the E85 caused his problems. I've used E85 in my truck a lot, and it's got 180k on it and still running strong.

[@8020Media]

T - This was our thought.

[@thirdayman]

@@ThatGuy-rf8de You think it was just bad luck and he got a lemon? Curious since he had it replaced under extended warranty and is now trying get rid of it. Offered to sell to me first.

[@L42776]

I’ve got 136k on mine been on e the whole time she’s just fine

[@19jody72]

Will a tune void the warranty? I've heard Ford can tell if the computer has been tuned?

[@8020Media]

If you use something that just piggybacks the ECU then they won't be able to tell so long as you uninstall it before going. If you actually flash the ECU then yes, they will be able to tell and it will likely void the warranty. Whether the tune caused the problem or not they will try to tell you it did

[@19jody72]

@@8020Media thanks for the info. I don't understand what piggyback means..

[@sfcjerryharris]

I have a 2017 F150 5.0. I have a 5 star tune 93 performance/tow, roush cai, flow master exhaust. I run 93 octane with boostane octane booster. What else can I do to make her stronger? Mine is the Gen 2

[@8020Media]

SFC - We laid out a few more mods in the video that you don't currently have.

[@sfcjerryharris]

@@8020Media thank you got me thinking intake manifold

[@8020Media]

Keep us updated!

[@MaverickR89]

75 shot of nitrous

[@ericperry72]

Since we dont do doninspections or testing here in Michigan i can remove my cats and go full exhaust

[@8020Media]

E - Correct. But we can't tell you to do it.

[@dlaird88]

Have an 11 5.0 f150 looking into throttle body and a tune wondering if the money is worth the reward

[@8020Media]

D - Do you have anything on it already?

[@brandonsmathers5491]

Why cant we just take the gen 1 to 12:1 compression & go from there?

[@8020Media]

Brandon - Truuuue.

[@DualsPortvet]

So the insight is good, but I still laugh when people spout HP numbers when stalking about mods. Oh headers will add x, cai x, intake x. Hell if you add all of the numbers up you can ad 200 hp just with bolt on parts with out the tune lol. It just doesn't work like that. Unless you add a dyno video for each individual part, I'd skip the hp gains guess. A cai wont add 5 to 10 hp unless you retune the car, but wait, there's more. Adding a cai to the truck will decreases the flow restrictions, but if you don't decrease the exhaust restrictions, it want add any noticeable power. The two together will net you a slight increase of pwr, but if you don't pay 400 to 1500 for a tune, you want see it. But dynos lie! The best way to get the most pwr per dollar is cai, heads, cam, full exhaust, and a true tune. That can put up true worth the price hp numbers. But even then, unless you do all of the work yourself, you're looking at 10 easy if a shop does it.

[@8020Media]

Duals - Not really sure what you expect? Why wouldn't we talk about HP when talking about mods, that's one of the biggest reason people buy mods.

[@DualsPortvet]

I think I was pretty clear with my comment. Talking hp numbers is fine IF you can show the dyno numbers to prove support them. I’ve been around for a good bit. 5 to 10 hp gains by adding just a cai without a tune is pretty much BS. The ecu isnt going to change its programmed mapping just because you changed filters. In fact, without a tune you can lose power as your air to fuel ratio gets fucked. This I know as it happened to me on both my z28 and 5.3 Silverado. So my point is, talking numbers of individual parts can be misleading to guys that don’t know. Most of the time, if you do one mod, you won’t see the true benefits until you do another.

[@8020Media]

Duals - In reference to this, "5 to 10 hp gains by adding just a cai without a tune is pretty much BS," yes, we meant to say with a tune. That is a mispeak on our part. Thanks for taking the time to share your insight and opinion.

[@drewcasteel66]

I just want a cold air intake to get the huge stock one out of the way. 😂

[@8020Media]

Drew - Not a bad shout! XD

[@powermatt07aviz32]

Guys there is cheaper options no exhaust goes under the 500 dollar mark and an average intake is like 160-150 dollars

[@8020Media]

P - You get what you pay for.

[@InsomniaReal]

never go for the cheapest you can find, find what you want and if the price isn't justifiable for you keep it stock. cheap shit is more often than not worse than what came stock. you could always buy just a resonator and muffler for anywhere from $300-$500, cut out your stock ones and weld on the new ones, for intake id go for the Banks Ram-Air $394 personally. Look at the manufacture label on your door card see what axle you have if its not a L6 code just keep it stock past intake and exhaust.

[@8020Media]

I - Well said!

[@waynecastleman1363]

Old school thinking ! Nothing wrong with having fun however a bit of aged wisdom . 1 I'm glad to see the environmental testing gone and what a rip off to the American people that was ! My only big concern with upgrades are warrantys themselves and we know that more airflow is a good thing. The important thing here is the knowledge in upgrading a modern engine vs the old school V8s with out computers, and that was fun , still is. Much of what I've learned over the years that so many people neglect is oil changes and coolant intervals, and not taking care of the investment not to mention a knuckle head having all these modes and not changing oil. O.K. enough of the necessary stuff personally my experience with warranty companys will be to blame any thing upgrade to an engine to void payment so guys be careful with that one. And personally my 5.0 2017 runs and sounds pretty dang good stock. I use premium synthetic oil 5000 mile intervals and premium Shell fuels and I really appreciate the stock performance however a cold air bolt on sounds like a good upgrade to start. I suppose the point of the story is to weigh the cost vs horsepower and in the old days more HP more fuel and not so true today. I have a 2017 Lariat Fx4 fully loaded like a Platinum Edition but more. B.F. Goodrich Trail Terrains on 20s , Caribou metallic and shes a Cowboy Cadillac F-150 Crew cab. Old School sure enjoys chatting with the young guys , modified and hot rodding never leaves the bloodline and my STP hat is off to all of you.

[@8020Media]

W - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience! Certainly great points here.

[@brad5349]

10-25whp for a tune ? On E85 most good tuners are getting 35-50whp and even more tq.

[@8020Media]

B - Much different on a NA engine.

[@SteveCervenka-i5d]

In other words, just keep your car stock.

[@8020Media]

S - What's the fun in that?

[@fredfrost1121]

That’s no fun lol

[@greysonkuhn8901]

if you like being slow lol

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

@@greysonkuhn8901I like not having a garbage vehicle

[@Army4Runner]

Good thing we aren’t discussing cars here.

[@tylerphelps4868]

You don’t need injectors without boost. It’s not a thing unless your tuner sucks

[@8020Media]

On 100% E85, you probably want injector upgrades on the older gen Coyote engines. It may not be absolutely needed, but it's never a bad idea to build in some additional headroom.

[@tylerphelps4868]

@@8020Media why need headroom if you’re not pushing the duty cycle? Like saying you need an industrial miller to weld in a muffler delete lol. NA coyote trucks regardless of over Gen or newer doing approach the end of duty cycle at all. Even cammed, cobra jet manifold Gen 1

[@midnight347]

​@@tylerphelps4868on full e85 you absolutely need injectors. Maybe not if it's stock other than the tune but if you are fbo with a manifold upgrade turning much higher rpm you're Def gonna need injectors on e.

[@midnight347]

​@@tylerphelps4868the mustang needs injectors on gen 1 for e85 and it Def needs then with cams and a manifold. Why wouldn't the trucks also need it? Do they have 47s stock? If not then they're gonna need 47s. Not sure why they wouldn't.

[@tylerphelps4868]

@ trucks and cars aren’t the same though. Short of boost or a serious NA build the trucks don’t see duty cycle concerns. They just don’t. Don’t have the numbers offhand but check pump pressure and output in addition to injector part number

[@daves2753]

Where the hell are you gonna find E85?

[@8020Media]

D - Depends on where you live. Specifically where I live, there is a gas station 5 minutes away that has it.

[@paulstraight9491]

Its all over in my town. We have E85, E88.. 87 and 89 ethanol free options. Sheetz and Get-Go!

[@8020Media]

Daves - We have multiple gas stations around us with it. Guess it depends on where you live.

[@MWAclanGaming]

Their a lot of E85 now in California

[@8020Media]

MWA - Thanks for sharing this!

[@grantdonley4014]

Nitrous, hands down most HP/TQ you’ll get per dollar spent

[@monkeeman9894]

coyotes hate spray 😭

[@grantdonley4014]

@@monkeeman9894not the ones we have in Florida. Every cruise night we have street cars with time slips and half are spraying. On stock engines people are spraying 150 shots without issue. They run a two range colder plug and the tunes roll out timing when the WOT switch is triggered.

[@sfcjerryharris]

Would that blow a stock engine?

[@xspower21]

Just slap a whipple on it and be done...all these other mods are just wasting money

[@8020Media]

X - Not necessarily true. All depends on what people's goals are.

[@midnight347]

Bad info. Not everyone wants boost and you can make your coyote significantly faster while staying na and the mods are alot less than properly boosting one. It's not wasting money anymore than adding boost is wasting money. You have more gains from boost obviously but it's more cost too. Not everyone wants to be boosted I'm not sure why people can't understand this lol. Also stuff like a manifold and exhaust and cams can benefit you with boost too if you decide to add it later on. A car with those mods is gonna make way more than one without them running the same power adder and it'll make the extra power at a lower boost level.

[@xspower21]

@midnight347 you should not announce you're an idiot online 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣