How to Build a Reliable AR-47 (7.62x39 AR-15)

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Extremely Average Man

Extremely Average Man

Жыл бұрын

The ol' AR-47 acting up? Can't get it to run reliably? I may be an average man, but hopefully this video will help you out!

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@KLAYCO47
@KLAYCO47 Жыл бұрын
This is a video the needed to be made. Thank you for putting it together.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Klayco! Thanks man! Keep up the great work yourself!
@jonathanrawls9992
@jonathanrawls9992 Жыл бұрын
Have you had a chance to test the 75rd 7.62x39 drum designed for the AR platform? I love the idea, but I don't have confidence in the purchase yet. Given the current value of my dollar, the juice must be worth the squeeze. Thank you for your time and efforts sir.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanrawls9992 I have not. To be fair, I don't have much of a use for drums, aside from a range toy haha. No problem, hope you found it helpful!
@SW-dg9us
@SW-dg9us 6 ай бұрын
It's nice that you came out with this video. I made one in 2017 and "blew tub" dumped it. Anyway, I then covered all the shortcomings: mag failures to feed, lite strikes from short firing pins, extraction issues & stovepipes and breaking bolts/extractors. Your suggestions are what I did back then, as well as I use WMD NiBX coated 9310 bolts. With steel ammo, I've had great luck and currently over 4,000 rounds with no failure. Good job on your video. Just to mention you wrote 9130 steel BC, I think you meant 9310. Also, all my BCs are melonited as well..
@chrismcleod9748
@chrismcleod9748 6 ай бұрын
Biggest problem I had was getting enough gas to the bolt, gas hole in barrel had to be opened up, extractors are a service item. C products are the most reliable mags, 28 rounders are the best. 5.56 firing pins are generally not reliable. Built 3 rifles, bought 2 (bca). Redex bolts are in my experience very well made.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Wow! I never imagined that this video would get half the amount of attention that it's gotten, thank you! I made this as a helpful guide, since I was answering people's same questions on Reddit and Facebook with their builds. I'm really glad you guys are finding this helpful. Is there anything else you'd like me to cover or go over in more detail, or any additional videos I can make? Thanks all! -Average Man
@technicaldifficulties2522
@technicaldifficulties2522 Жыл бұрын
One of the best walk throughs on yootoob. Do more...
@411DL
@411DL Жыл бұрын
It's a kinda fascinating topic, really. Building one of these scratches a lot of educational itches when you try to get one working right. Also, contrary to some moderately popular KZbinrs like VSO Gun Channel and Hoplifeil, there's a lot of merit to owning one of these and a actually running it if you can fit one in your budget. 7.62x39 in an AR will teach you recoil management faster than 5.56 in a similar configured AR, especially if you have a Trijicon TA31 on it. It'll teach you drop and wind compensation at shorter available ranges. It's arguable 300BO will as well, but there's a whole host of arguments against that idea from a training perspective, but mostly cost per round. It'll teach you maintenance and expectation management, cuz if you think about it a lot of us will go through periods of life where we just can't get the range time we want so we need that compressed education.
@US2A
@US2A Жыл бұрын
Because we get sent crappy 7.62x39mm firing pins
@MrTartarSauced
@MrTartarSauced Жыл бұрын
As soon as you said H2 buffer I knew the rest of the review was legit. Great video. Also I think the other problem is when people go with a
@biggeorge2964
@biggeorge2964 11 ай бұрын
Great vid. So tired of schooling people.I do recommend flatwire buffer spring(seems to smooth action even more)I run laurue trigs on all my x39s.Thanks again
@richardxstroker
@richardxstroker Жыл бұрын
You can totally change the name of this video to ‘The Comprehensive AR-47 Guide’. Extremely above average video, and thanks so much for taking the time to make this.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! What a compliment!
@powerbagle
@powerbagle Жыл бұрын
I took the o-ring out of my extractor for 6.5 grendel to get more travel over the rim of the case. This might help other rifles or longevity of extractor, but will probably need to replace spring sooner.
@billydanzz
@billydanzz Жыл бұрын
Best presentation video done on this subject I've seen over the years period. "I don't always hit that subscribe button, but when I do, it's for ARx39 how-to videos"..... Quoted from nobody...
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Haha thanks man! Really appreciate it, I'm glad this is helping people. I was certainly in the dark once!
@Viking-rb2ox
@Viking-rb2ox 8 ай бұрын
Mine had just broke the extractor after about 3,700 rounds with a toolcraft bcg. I run superlative arms gas block and a 1.77oz buffer with standard carbine spring. Perfect ejection pattern and consistent with either 46gr Czech surplus up to 154gr Tula. Best luck I’ve had with mags is Ross defense unimags, unfortunately no longer get them. But great breakdown of the parts very detailed, everything you covered is correct for longevity of the parts sad it took someone so long to make a good video covering all of this. Oh forgot to mention redxarms is gtg I got a lot of my spare parts from them.
@danielwatkins5146
@danielwatkins5146 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! Love the cardboard diagram. The AR-47 gets a lot of hate but I love mine! I think mag choice is probably the biggest factor. Duramag for the win.
@jbp3430
@jbp3430 Жыл бұрын
ASC is better
@LuisRodriguez-ny2qb
@LuisRodriguez-ny2qb Жыл бұрын
​@@jbp3430 im getting ak soon which mag is better fr fr ??
@adamstevenson2485
@adamstevenson2485 Жыл бұрын
Yes Durama is it believe me I literally have bought them all.
@Gary-kc9hx
@Gary-kc9hx 10 ай бұрын
​@@jbp3430u crazy!😊
@mrarivv0007
@mrarivv0007 7 ай бұрын
​@@LuisRodriguez-ny2qb duramag. They're the best ones, great quality.
@ArmyMatt79
@ArmyMatt79 Жыл бұрын
Great Video!!! I built my AR-47 years ago, and it's never jammed, and it's really accurate. I use Duramag ( C Products) Mags. It's one of my favorite Firearms to shoot.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Same. I've always loved the x39 round. Coupling that with the manual of arms and the ergonomics of the AR platform is so satisfying.. Thanks for watching!
@CatDaddySteve
@CatDaddySteve Жыл бұрын
Me too , my 10 year old AR 47 is 100% reliable..... cheers
@waterboy239
@waterboy239 9 ай бұрын
Any gas adjustment
@dellontobin282
@dellontobin282 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video, I was having issues with my BCA upper/lower but you addressed all of my concerns. Definitely earned a sub.
@badawesome
@badawesome Жыл бұрын
I got an AR 47 upper from Palmetto State Armory a few years ago and have had no problems with it so far.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Nice! I'd like to play with the AR's that accept AK mags..I'm sure I'll get my hands on one at some point haha. Thanks for watching!
@adamstevenson2485
@adamstevenson2485 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man this is the most I’ve learned about this particular build than in the last year. Very helpful.
@bcjdwbiernfjherwfbowfib
@bcjdwbiernfjherwfbowfib Жыл бұрын
1. Wolff hammer spring 2. extended firing pin 3. polished feed ramps 4. duramags.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you watched the video, thanks!
@deadlead03
@deadlead03 2 ай бұрын
Polished feed ramp and duramag is a MUST!!! I cannot stress that out enough
@lyflonglearner
@lyflonglearner Ай бұрын
Bro! Your video was EXCELLENT!!! Quite possibly the most clear, concise, honest, thurough and organized presentation i have ever seen on any topic. I had no idea i needed a 7.62x39 upper, but, after watching your video, it not only makes logical sense (ammo cost, 30 caliber option) to build one, but i don't have any apprehension as to where to start or what to do! You have simply removed any fear or hesitation that i would ordinarily have if someone told me i should go and do something i've never done before. You seem to have a gift for teaching and communicating with unusual clarity. Thank you!
@joehajek5576
@joehajek5576 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had good luck with the Wyndham Weaponry 7.62x39 upper on an Areo lower. Nice video!
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I've heard a couple people mention Windham Weaponry, always good to know of another solid manufacturer. Thanks for watching!
@catfishwhisper5970
@catfishwhisper5970 Жыл бұрын
I've had good luck also with my Wyndham weaponry 762×39 SRC m4 carbine had a little trouble at first with the gas tube had to change it out also got enhanced firing pin and upgraded the hammer spring and it has ran like a sewing machine
@wyateerp1
@wyateerp1 2 ай бұрын
After around a year my AR47 runs well. Replaced my Firing Pin with an "Enhanced Bear Creek" in SS. So I have an extra. I only used Brass so not an issue. Will be purchasing Extra parts and things. My x39 is a standard rear and my 5.56 is my side charge. So backwards. But I'm going to be purchasing a different upper in x39. Thanks for the info. Great video. Will check my gas system and recheck my weight in my buffer on both builds. Not my first rodeo, but I only run around 3-5 hundred rounds a year as I can't afford it. I live on SS. Again thanks
@toddlucas708
@toddlucas708 Жыл бұрын
BRA bolt carriers work excellent. I have all the different mags. Clearance and polish the mags and lube the springs with dry lube. Extended firing pin. Comes in BRA bolt carrier. Polished mil spec trigger with standard springs has fired everything so far. Correct buffer spring and weight. Polished feed ramps. Runs reliable. Great deer caliber. More accurate than any AK I've shot with steel ammo. Mostly use brass but has run all the steel case I've tried. 100 yards 1.5" groups with Tula 154 gr. Sp
@85Sirex
@85Sirex 8 ай бұрын
I bought a BCA 7.62x39 upper years ago when Obama wanted to ban M855 and 5.56 prices went crazy. I saved my 5.56 and decided to shoot some of my cheaper Russian steel case 7.62x39 ammo I stockpiled for my AK/SKS. I did end up having to replace my hammer spring with a heavier hammer spring and replacing the firing pin with an enhanced firing pin for mine to shoot Russian steel case more reliably. I still had issues igniting Golden Tiger, but I just save that for my AK and SKS. On my bolt, I replaced the bolt with a Young Manufacturing heavy duty bolt with heavy duty extractor. I also prefer the 20rd Duramags. So far it's been reliable enough for range use, and I wouldn't be afraid to use it for defense if I had to.
@angrydragon4574
@angrydragon4574 5 ай бұрын
Isn't it amazing how the anti-2A crowd get us to spend more money than we ever thought we should? I don't think the boomers were kidding when they said the best firearms salesmen are the very same people that want to ban them.
@richardhaynes110
@richardhaynes110 Жыл бұрын
Yes , well done , love the reader's digest version . Made it a quick study on the subject and answered questions i've had that have gone unanswered.
@joesinegal8167
@joesinegal8167 Жыл бұрын
I Also Added A Wolff Extra Power Hammer Spring From Brownells To Mine Many Years Ago And My Build Has Run Flawlessly To Date! You Can Also Install A Competition Muzzle Break To Control The recoil With A Standard Buffer Spring! I've Built Quit A Few AR-47's Over The Years For Myself, Friends And Family Members & Everyone Of Them Are Still Running Flawlessly After Many Years Of Continuous Use! Thanks For The Video!
@Jonno2summit
@Jonno2summit Жыл бұрын
I love my AR-47! Built on an 80% lower and a Stoner complete upper from Midway for about $700 including buffer system and furniture. I use ASC sheet metal mags for the fatter cartridge. I had a couple FF jams at first, but then I polished the feed ramp with a dremel tool and it's been flawless ever since. I think I sanded down the feed pedals on the mags to make them smoother too.
@maxhunter3574
@maxhunter3574 Жыл бұрын
An extended-length firing pin was CRUCIAL in my build. An "enhanced" extractor has been a great investment too.
@darknature79
@darknature79 Жыл бұрын
I did both those and installed the nitride covered bolt pin so it will move smoother. When I ordered 1 for my radical 762 I decided to order 3 total and stick the other 2 in my 556 ars since it was cheap enough.
@bobbye7353
@bobbye7353 Жыл бұрын
Who did you buy the firing pin from?
@darknature79
@darknature79 Жыл бұрын
@@bobbye7353 black rifle arms.
@InuYasha2022
@InuYasha2022 Жыл бұрын
Awesome just ordered a bolt an extra extractor from sanders armory. Thank you. This Video needed to be made. Great information.
@sarge12212
@sarge12212 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I've been through most of these issues and have done these upgrades already. But it's good to have a tutorial for the newbie's. I keep a complete entranced BCG on hand when I shoot my AR47. If I break an extractor, I can just slap in the other BCG and replace the broken extractor at home. The adjustable gas block was my last upgrade.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad I could help! Yep, we've all been there and these builds are surely trial and error. That's probably the best resolution at the range-a broken extractor is easy to replace in 5 minutes, but even easier is to just pop in your "on deck" bolt carrier group and just replace the extractor at home while you keep chugging away at the range!
@sarge12212
@sarge12212 Жыл бұрын
😎
@411DL
@411DL Жыл бұрын
I'm working on my own video to document my foray into 7.62x39 builds. One thing I've learned can have a dramatic impact on bolt longevity is the overkill demolition of the six-o-clock lug in the extension to create one big feed ramp. Sanders Armory 16" barrel. Came this way. Snapped a lug on my first bolt at around 950 rounds. From the perspective of from behind the bolt and into the barrel it was the lug next to the extractor closest three-o-clock. Replaced bolt, then at around 300 rounds (all Belom) I NO-GO gauged it and found it was positive headspace. Looking at the bolt the same position lug was bent noticeable inward. Changed bolt again. Now, only 4 rounds in, what's left of the two lugs next to the absent six-o-clock lug look like they're peeling back and catching the brass and bending the cartridge at the neck. I consider my Sanders barrel now scuttled because of this. My 18inch KAK w/ Midlength gas system... runs like a champ out of the box. Not a heavy barrel but groups certainly well enough. Even works with ASC mags and yet the feed ramps look very normal. Not necessarily 5.56 M4 ramps but, tastefully adjusted and not butchered. Oh and I did not notice the oddity that is my sanders barrel extension until I bought and looked at the KAK barrel, then it all made sense. I read some adjust their feed ramps but never thought to this extent. My 16" Radical upper (impulse buy at a serious discount). This thing is an all-round problem child. Belom and also Sellier and Bellot bullets are literally too fat at the ogive to fit cuz I think they machined the throat on the barrel too short. I verified that I can slip a spent Belom brass into the chamber and it drops in farther than a new cartridge will. Barnaul runs fine but Barnaul is hard on ARs not just because of the steel case but they're one of the consistently hotter rounds out there and you really feel it. I reserve my Barnaul for my PTR; that thing eats it up.
@SammyTheSidePiece
@SammyTheSidePiece Жыл бұрын
Where did u get your Radical AR47 from? And how long have u had it or how old is it?
@411DL
@411DL Жыл бұрын
@@SammyTheSidePiece Primary Arms end of December, 2022. Was on sale for $229.99 then I also had a %12 off coupon and got it down to $203. Got a Primary Arms optic same order, took off the shipping so it was impossible to pass on. Just really wanted to try it out, see if it was worth the hype.
@SammyTheSidePiece
@SammyTheSidePiece Жыл бұрын
@@411DL yea man we got a Radical x39 from classic firearms a couple of weeks ago, on sale for 440$ and It looks and feels really nice. So far we got a Tubbs flat wire spring to reduce harmonic vibration and be forgiven on the BCG. The next upgrade is gonna be an adjustable gas block because I need as reliable as possible. I was asking when u got yours because I'm thinking when Radical first started making them maybe that was the trial and error period then after making them for some time, they made them better. Hopefully anyways lol
@411DL
@411DL Жыл бұрын
@@SammyTheSidePiece I should note that my upper did not come with a BCG or charge handle. Did you get a full rifle somewhere?
@SammyTheSidePiece
@SammyTheSidePiece Жыл бұрын
@@411DL oohh, yea we got the whole rifle man. Classic firearms is definitely the place to shop because they have really good quality stuff and the offer a lifetime warranty for a few more dollars at check out.
@kennethmobley8441
@kennethmobley8441 4 күн бұрын
I wanna thank you for this video I’ve built a whole ar47pistol and it shoots flawlessly thank you again and keep up the good work
@davidpate2237
@davidpate2237 Жыл бұрын
On your Bear Creek arsenal there should be up v at the back of the upper you can take that out and put a charge handle back there if you wanted
@ericm0612
@ericm0612 Жыл бұрын
Nitride treatment is more brittle. Can make the surface chip on on corners. Phosphate is more reliable FOR BOLTS
@angrydragon4574
@angrydragon4574 5 ай бұрын
Phosphate will certainly last longer when firing but nitride is smoother and far more rust resistant while being a little more brittle than phosphate. Phosphate will last longer under firing while nitride will last longer when unused and it won't require as much lube to run as phosphate will.
@ddm8438
@ddm8438 Жыл бұрын
You defiantly have a new subscriber. Great video with great information.I made the Switch over to 7.62x39 a year ago and got all the kinks worked out. You definitely have to do your research before switching over and building a AR-47 platform. It can be a pain at first, but once you get it fine tune it runs smooth as butter. Belom brass is the way to go. I've drop plenty of hogs with those rounds.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Thanks bud! Yeah, I feel it's that much more rewarding once you go through the trial by fire and get your gun running smoothly. Makes you appreciate the rifle more!
@berns_pratt
@berns_pratt Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, Average Man! I don't have an AR-47 nor do I plan to in the short term, but this is an excellent video on how to make it reliable. And I love the cardboard diagramming!
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Haha thanks! I figured it would make for a good way to organize all of that information.
@timsmith6479
@timsmith6479 Жыл бұрын
Great Video I enjoyed it. I was impressed with accuracy of 7.62x39 out of an AR. There are adjustable buffer weight kits for about the same cost of a buffer weight. I ended up going with a fixed A1 stock, recoil is much smoother. I need to check out an adjustable gas block.
@hankbirmingham6662
@hankbirmingham6662 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Simple straightforward and easy to understand! I recently purchased a 7.5” 7.62 upper from BCA… lots of issues… Which your video addressed! Broken firing pin 100 rds… Loose Gas Block 150 rds… Which caused failure to cycle…. Several failure to extracts… Next 200 rds… Sent it in as a warranty replacement… Second upper… Immediately replaced Firing Pin… No light strikes but… Consistent failure to extracts!!! Grrrrrrr!😬 I love this upper… and so does my Marine son…! Your video answered and addressed all my concerns and questions! The BCA upper cost 1/4 of what my son paid re-creating his Service Weapon in 5.56… Bravo Company upper… PSA lower with a $300 Trigger and ACOG sight…😁 He still loves the Dirty Little 7.5” 7.62 upper! I just need it to run …RELIABLY! And yes… We are running Bardaul steel case through it… It kicks with a muzzle flash in excess of 3-4 feet! But that’s the whole point! Thank you for your incredible video! Keep up the great work! Definitely earned a subscriber!😉
@angrydragon4574
@angrydragon4574 5 ай бұрын
@hankbirmingham6662 Bear Creek Arsenal's got a lot of issues that I presume can be corrected with patience and money. The oversized gas ports will put too much pressure on the BCG and I also hear that their extractors are made out of cast steel rather than forged. Take the part about the BCC with a grain of salt but if you're consistently having issues I would replace the extractor BCA gives you with one from a reputable company and I'd also get an adjustable gas block and/or replace the barrel that has the appropriate gas block dimensions. I do hope this will fix your problems.
@bogies_box
@bogies_box Жыл бұрын
Found the link to ur video on Reddit! I was thinking about doing a 7.62x39 build. Phenomenal video boss. You’re super helpful in laying out all the details and problems that occur. I had similar problems with my 6.5 Grendel so I think I’d be in a similar playing field of problems with 7.62x39. Keep making awesome content. I look forward to more videos.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Thanks man I really appreciate it! Yeah, these builds are very much trial and error to get set up haha
@aklaunch
@aklaunch Жыл бұрын
With regards to the ejection pattern. Your ejector spring can vary where it throws brass also. You will notice a different bolt with a stronger or weaker spring will change your ejection pattern drastically. Which can skew your results.
@deathbeforeslavery3582
@deathbeforeslavery3582 Жыл бұрын
I have one of these and the only thing I had to do was get an enhanced firing pin. It runs flawlessly now
@p47rr
@p47rr Жыл бұрын
I bought my first AR47 back in 2007. It was a Armalite. In their owners manual it said not to run steel case. Other wise it would void the warranty. So I all ways stuck with brass cased ammo. (I reload now.) I also make sure the gas system is working perfectly. The ejection is at three o’clock. Never broke a extractor or bolt. Built two more AR47 rifles and bought a BCA at Christmas. I use heat resistance blue loctite on the gas block set screws and handguard screws. The bolts for the handguard thread into the barrel nut. They can get pretty hot. And standard blue loctite is not a good choice. On one of my builds I used a cheap adjustable gas block. After two times out to the range. I could tell that the adjustment screws were seizing up from carbon. Read on another forum that a guy used aluminum based anti seize on his adjustment screws. After two thousand rounds they still move freely. (Anti seize is good up to 1600 degrees.)
@cspackler33
@cspackler33 4 ай бұрын
Thorough. I've seen so many questions posted over the years and this answers pretty much everything. Mine are 1.Radical 16" carbine gas with A2 stock/rifle buffer, tubbs 308 flatwire spring, MBT2, lpvo 2.BCA 10.5 carbine gas with H2, damage ind cs carbine spring, Spikes battle trigger, cheap adjustable gas block, mini PA rds. They're basically both spare parts bin hobby guns but they have the components you covered and work. Definitely 20, 28 duramags.
@randyfrantz7195
@randyfrantz7195 10 ай бұрын
I agree with many if not most of your recommendations. One thing I recommend for over gas issues is to start with the adjustable gas block then go to increasing buffer weight as needed. It is best to limit the amount of gas going into the BCG to avoid excess fouling and gas in your face. My rifle still has the carbine buffer and ejects where it should after adjusting the gas block. But I may try a heavier buffer just to see if there is something I am missing! Thanks for the video.
@justindurand9110
@justindurand9110 Жыл бұрын
Great video on this topic. Took some trial and error to get 762 running smooth, but I love it and think all enthusiasts should consider building one.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Yup, a bit of trial and error to get these builds to run reliably...but that's part of the fun haha
@NightDivision1
@NightDivision1 7 ай бұрын
Hey I appreciate your video man! I've been looking into this type of rifle to prepare for hunting next year and this video has ALL the information I needed, keep doing what you do 💯
@perldog07
@perldog07 11 ай бұрын
Great useful content. Lazy old woods loafer here. My state has no magazine limits for big or small game. For tactically holding down a stump, boulder, or log with my tactical backside, I love the duramag ten rounders . If there is a chance of a sounder the twenty is my choice. Just too lazy to carry 27-30 rounds on the rifle. I rolled the dice and went with a trybe defense upper. Did not want to test my toddler like mechanical skills building an upper for this caliber. The 30/30 and 7.62x39 are time honored blue collar freezer fillers in Appalachia. Now it is becoming more approachable for us poors. This is a great video to deal with any issues and for tuning.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan 11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Agree with all of your points!
@NoWr2Run
@NoWr2Run 9 ай бұрын
@@ExtremelyAverageMan 100% BROTHER.
@anthonymazzone6463
@anthonymazzone6463 4 ай бұрын
I love that word... tactical. lol
@TTULangGenius
@TTULangGenius Жыл бұрын
Just got me a barreled (no BCG and charging handle, for those who don't know) 7.62 x 39 upper by Radical Firearms and gonna build on top of an Aero Precision lower. This video is a godsend because I haven't bought a lot of the major parts yet. This is gonna save me a lot of trouble and money! I appreciate the info and I learned about how to tell if a rifle is overgassed or not! (Seriously, I was just shopping and doing research when this video randomly popped up in my feed!) Thank you!
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help and enjoy! Let us know if you need any help! If you have reddit, r/AR47 is a helpful place too.
@TTULangGenius
@TTULangGenius Жыл бұрын
@@ExtremelyAverageMan Appreciate the offer and I might just need the help! I have built an AR15 in the past; a really nice CMMG Resolute in 5.7 x 28 in Flat Dark Earth (it looks sexy with an FDE stock and grip with a black lower and buffer tube [the lines are gorgeous]). It's a sweet little shooter with no recoil at all. Time to add to my rifle building repertoire!
@GrumpyGenXGramps
@GrumpyGenXGramps Жыл бұрын
Don't need the BCG for this build, just a new bolt. Save u a lot of moolah
@CatDaddySteve
@CatDaddySteve Жыл бұрын
Make sure You're feed ramps are polished smooth... You're hammer spring is heavy for steel case Russian primers, and You're running an enhanced firing pin 😉
@zuriel1489
@zuriel1489 Жыл бұрын
excellent! thanks . Just starting my 7.62x39 build. Very helpful
@casbah2100
@casbah2100 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for your helpful information. This will definitely improve our experiences in this important platform.
@chriscosby2459
@chriscosby2459 6 ай бұрын
Great video, I learned a lot about the areas to improve the reliability with the 7.62x39. I love that round.
@tomjones942
@tomjones942 8 ай бұрын
I am a beginner with all this but I totally understand everything you talked about . Super informative , very helpful . Thank you !
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan 8 ай бұрын
No problem bud, I was fresh at it on the first build too! Glad I could help and good luck!
@innercityprepper
@innercityprepper Жыл бұрын
I have made two AR47 builds as well, and I've gone perhaps a little overboard on them both, guts-wise. First, a BCA side-charge upper receiver holding onto a 16" Faxon mid-length gunner barrel, adjustable gas block, and Kaw Valley 5.4oz (H3) buffer. Second build is based on a standard top-charging upper with a KAK bolt, KAK 16" carbine length nitride barrel, but I had a bunch of spare parts lying around so I used an Adams micro piston for the operating system. Also using a Kaw Valley 5.4oz tungsten. Both builds use the BCA enhanced pin and Witt Machine SME muzzle device. I was worried at first that cheap 7.62 wouldn't work with higher end drop-in triggers but... they do! So I've got a CMC drop-in on both of em. I got a bunch of extra extractors just to be sure, but they are actually so much fun to shoot that I've started buying Sellier & Bellot FMJ brass rounds in bulk. They're not cheap, but they ARE fun enough to make it worth it!
@jmephisto1992
@jmephisto1992 11 ай бұрын
Main issue I had with mine were feeding issues at the ramp, a bunch of stovepipe, log jams etc or shell completely stuck. Refit my gas block and smoothed out/ widened feed ramp. It works like a machine now, my favorite gun to shoot and cheap ammo. And yes it is a heavy Barrel! But very accurate
@brucec2635
@brucec2635 Жыл бұрын
WOW. Am just about to build my first lower and then figure out my 7.62x39 upper stuff. Great help. Thanks!!!
@bogusphone8000
@bogusphone8000 11 ай бұрын
For my AR-47s the key was an H2 buffer and Sprinco Hot White spring. Smoothed the operation right out. Steel issues are almost always cheap barrels. Had a number of feed and extraction issues early on. Cleaned and oiled rigorously and after 100 rounds it smoothed out and runs great. When I rebuilt with a Diamondback barrel, no issues with any rounds from day one.
@chadbenner6316
@chadbenner6316 4 ай бұрын
I know I am a little late to the comment section here, but this video is outstanding. I wished it was around years ago when I was trying to figure out how to build a reliable “AR47.” I will tell you after building many of these rifles that my best experience with BCG’s has been with the Fail Zero nickel boron. They are pricey, but have proven to be the most reliable BCG I have ever used in this platform. I would consider them second to none in performance and reliability not to mention they are worth their weight in gold when it comes to the reduction in frustration that comes with extractors and firing pin failures. Thank you for the very informative video, it is very obvious that you have an exceptional level of experience with this platform as you massed your information exactly where the problems lie with the “AR47.”
@chillchica9626
@chillchica9626 8 ай бұрын
Right to bear I stand by
@VanillaGuerrillaRayGuevara
@VanillaGuerrillaRayGuevara 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. Answered almost all my questions.
@lvrrylxrd232
@lvrrylxrd232 8 ай бұрын
This was a very well put together video and tons of information for gas system and adjusting properly, thank you
@georgewashington7312
@georgewashington7312 Жыл бұрын
I'm seeing alot of these builds going past the 5k mark as far as round count before failure, I think that pretty darn good.
@trailerrob9117
@trailerrob9117 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the process of building one of these. Great info thanks for sharing.
@wilfriedvomacka1783
@wilfriedvomacka1783 7 ай бұрын
Extremely Average Man, but Extremely High-end Information. I just ordered my first 7.62x39 AR and your video answered me like thousand question! Absolutely stellar! Thank you!!!
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan 7 ай бұрын
You're welcome my friend!
@tomjahn6896
@tomjahn6896 6 ай бұрын
J&p hammer spring, excellent and made a regular mil spec hammer nearly as nice as an expensive timney. About 4 lb pull. Right to bear enhanced firing pin seems to be doing the trick with wolf steel case. The feed ramps, this is a big deal, don't over look it. Regular m4 are not the best for this. BCA runs basically an enhanced feed ramp vs the standard 5.56 m4. I run both Duramag and ASC mags. No issues
@armenlock9619
@armenlock9619 Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT video! Thank you for the clearly presented information! I'm putting together a 7.62x39 ar right now and look forward to using it soon...
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan 8 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@rodneytidwell5727
@rodneytidwell5727 Жыл бұрын
I just want to say that your video is one of the most, if not the most, well presented and informative videos on this subject. I watched it a few day’s prior to my bca side charging upper came in. The only thing I did to mine before firing was replace the bca enhanced firing pin with one from black rifle arms and a vortex crossfire ii 3-9x40. I did not add the wolff xp spring although I had bought one. Anyway, using c-products duramags I fired 120 rounds so far, 80 of which were steel cased including tulamo fmj, wolf hp and zsr ap fmj, which are Turkish. The brass cased rounds were s&b psp. All worked without issue.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for watching! Yeah the BCA firing pins are know to fail early, even if they state that they're "enhanced".
@rodneytidwell5727
@rodneytidwell5727 Жыл бұрын
@@ExtremelyAverageMan So... I've a question if you don't mind (BCA 16" right side charging upper on an anderson lower). This past weekend I shot some more and after never having a problem, as my round count was almost 200, I had a failure to completely eject causing a jam. It messed the neck up on the fired casing but was easy to clear. I fired a couple of more rounds and then the same thing happened. I was using my 20 round duramag firing the cheap turkish steel cased rounds mentioned previously. So I wrote it off to bad rounds and I cleaned the gun, including removing the bolt and firing pin and looking at the ejector, which looks fine. Today, I had a chance to shoot so I loaded up my 10 round duramag with belom brass (I shot a couple of boxes of these last weekend with no issues). After the 3rd or 4th round it failed to properly eject causing the same jam and case damage as before. The only other piece of info I can add is that my brass is landing at about 1 o'clockish. I made a note to order the bcm extractor spring upgrade kit you mentioned in the video. I do have a spare Right to Bear extractor I'd bought to keep on hand but the one in there looks fine. Any other thoughts? Can it being over gassed cause the problem I'm describing? Thanks
@rodneytidwell5727
@rodneytidwell5727 Жыл бұрын
I replaced the bear creek arsenal bolt with a black rifle arms bolt. It seems to run fine again. Oddly I was going to replace the spring in the stock bolt and the pin refuses to come out… After getting it sorted I added the aero precision low profile adjustable gas block and an h2 buffer weight.
@Poe-Arms
@Poe-Arms Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I went with the Radical Firearms AR-15 chambered in 7.62x39 and I know that I have to upgrade parts and this video gives me great insight 👍🏽
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Since I've made this video, I've only heard great things about Radical Firearms, sounds like a great choice! Give us a status update after a bit of time with it!
@Poe-Arms
@Poe-Arms Жыл бұрын
@@ExtremelyAverageMan Will do! Thanks
@oaklavegas8779
@oaklavegas8779 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I’ve had a 16, 10.5, & 7.5 from BCA. Only have the 16 now. The pistols were unreliable. It started as a Gen 1 side charger and I could not stand that little screw. It kept coming loose. I’ve changed it to a rear charging receiver to rid my self of the headache. It’s funny, I’ve never had issues with ejection. Although I did make a few changes before I even shot it. I swapped the buffer to H2 and have had the heavier trigger spring and enhanced firing pin. So I guess those changes made all the difference. Along with C products mags, I think that info was out there but I definitely had to look everywhere for them. You have them here all in one place. Wish I had this video when I first started. Great video.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
No problem! I had to do the same as well, a LOT of reading through forums and various random videos and reddit threads to try and find good advice/answers/remedies to the issues we encounter. My intention was to put it all in one place for people, so thank you very much! Yup, sounded like you did very good on your AR-47 solutions. I have the gen 2 side charge on both of those builds you see which mitigated that charging handle bolt coming loose (blue loctite not needed thankfully!)
@416cubes4
@416cubes4 Жыл бұрын
If you have light strikes, just bend the hammer spring on each leg a bit to firm it up for steel cased primers
@ngaoutdoors4157
@ngaoutdoors4157 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video just subbed! I have narrowed down my x39 barrels to diamondback firearms with zero issues running steel and all BCG’s are BRA period! I have not run Faxon but do have some of there bolts as the specs on them are impressive, superlative arms adjustable Gasblocks ar 100% and if you run suppressed it’s the key to keep it running smooth. For subsonic loads 196 brown bear you have to enlarge gas port to 2.80mm with h2 buffer has been 100% for me consistently. If the gun will mot run reliably on steel case then I would find the problem and change it out just saying, I own the new sig LT and Pws x39 guns which are hands down 100% but enjoy my home build x39 uppers and have now got the years of trial and error down to a reliable platform! I encourage anyone that wants a x39 AR platform to spend that extra $$ to begin with so they don’t get disappointed first thing. One of my PWS guns has over 7,000 +\- rounds and only been cleaned twice, sig is still getting rounds but be awhile before that round count get there.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Yeah I'm trying to help people here by getting them to run good initially...although I wouldn't have learned half as much if I didn't have issues along the way haha. Yeah I need to narrow steel issue down. At the time I was getting stuck cases with Tula, but I do have some lacquered steel at the moment...maybe I'll give it a go next range trip. Thanks for the sub and for watching!
@MrRiorust
@MrRiorust 6 ай бұрын
Wow.... spoken like an average guy! Sub'd. I built my first AR-47 about 8 years ago and have run into most of the common "issues". I solved my issues with a credit card, a lot of range time, and a lot of part swapping. It really does boil down to the 4 points you highlighted. PS, I have a couple of "Right To Bear" barrels, I find them to be pretty darn good for the price, they ship quickly and have been great to deal with.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan 5 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@brianpulley8652
@brianpulley8652 Жыл бұрын
I've built two 7.62.39 uppers and the only issue I had was on the one I tried a cassette style trigger and just had way to many light primer strikes...I just use mil spec style triggers and springs in nickel boron and I will use what I call a take up screw in my pistol grip screw hole to take the creep out of the trigger and I've found C- products and ASC mags work the best.
@UncleSaif
@UncleSaif Жыл бұрын
Professor, you are an excellent instructor
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@igor_4239
@igor_4239 Жыл бұрын
lots of information, good shot and not too distracting excellent video
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jonathanhornbuilders
@jonathanhornbuilders Жыл бұрын
I just put an enhanced firing pin and extra heavy hammer spring in mine. Running steel case ammo like a champ now!
@SammyTheSidePiece
@SammyTheSidePiece Жыл бұрын
I highly recommend using brass case ammo only! And going with an adjustable gas block for the longevity of the BCG.
@TacticalKeene
@TacticalKeene Жыл бұрын
Wow this video is full of good info. My AR-47 is set up with an H2 buffer and standard power spring right now. Hope the parts last a bit longer with it. Definitely gonna get a couple extra firing pins and extractors for sure. Good info. Thanks bro! 😊
@biggeorge2964
@biggeorge2964 Жыл бұрын
Get it to eject at 3:30-4 and you won’t break extractors.
@mpaulston9792
@mpaulston9792 Жыл бұрын
Great Video! It has helped my build tremendously! Appreciate you sir ✊🏾
@billjensen6216
@billjensen6216 Жыл бұрын
Those magazines also work for the 6.5 grendel and the 6 mm ARC as well as the 7.62x39 great video and information.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@edwardstanhope3030
@edwardstanhope3030 Жыл бұрын
Great video, been looking into the 7.62x39
@wyateerp1
@wyateerp1 Жыл бұрын
Just finished my build,. So far only 100 rounds thru it, but it ran Flawless. One hiccup was a Failure to feed. That was a Magazine problem. ASC 5 ends. {I still use them, Its all I have now} Rectified that. Love it !. Much better than the Half dozen 5.56 and .300 Blk out's I've built. But I will buy a 5.56 upper to play with. Why not ,right? Anyhow, Navy "75-81". Thanks for the Video. Big info
@25mking
@25mking 5 ай бұрын
New sub! Glad youtube was using my phone to listen to me talk to my friends about my next build! 😅 great content, Thanks
@raviiyer7354
@raviiyer7354 Жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for posting. FYI I have only a few hundred brass rounds through my BCA 7.62x39 upper w/ a 16" heavy barrel upper and my stock M&P15 lower and ASC 10 round mags (California). So far no trouble with feeding, ejecting or soft strikes (And now BCA also offers the "Enhanced" firing pin w/ all new uppers).
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
They do, although mine broke after a couple hundred rounds, and others have had bad luck as well. I'd go with a more reputable brand such as BRA once the inevitable happens. Someone mentioned a titanium firing pin as well (Anarchy Outdoors) which for $25 gets you a lifetime replacement guarantee. Pretty awesome!
@SELogistics7
@SELogistics7 Жыл бұрын
Very good video covers every problem i have run into. I find bear creeks barrels to be very accurate 1 moa or better out if 16 inch AR at 100 yds. Accuracy is the main reason I do with the AR platform instead of the AK. I think with a beefed up bolt and extractor this rifle is reliable. definitely worth having extras especially if you run steel. C products mags are the only mag that works well i found.
@constitutionalrepublican1611
@constitutionalrepublican1611 Жыл бұрын
dont trust bear creek arsenal, they hire illegals and lie, plus they are shady..... and i hate to admit theyre veteran owned.
@remiel3315
@remiel3315 Жыл бұрын
can confirm about the duramag, have a pair of 10 rounders, accidently ran one through the washer & dryer, still works even with a minor ding to the feed lip and some loss of the paint
@remiel3315
@remiel3315 Жыл бұрын
I also have the KAK "enhanced" BCG the first was a Stoner and it ate itself, but about 100rds in with flip up irons im ejecting about 2:30 to 4:30, but i need more time on it
@joetorres3120
@joetorres3120 Жыл бұрын
That's all good and dandy FOR BRASS AMMO, but if you're shooting steel cased ammo, you're going to need an enhanced hammer spring to go with the enhanced firing pin to eliminate those light primer strikes. I was getting 5 to 6 light primer strikes for every 30 rounds fired. I got the "Wolff AR-15 Extra Hammer Spring WS-30093". My AR-47 goes "bang" every time now! Also, don't buy the enhanced firing pin from Bear Creek Arsenal, it is crap (several other comments say the same thing about it). Mine broke on the very first shot. Lucky for me the manager at Range USA let me go home and get my extra enhanced firing pin from Windham Weaponry so I could come back and continue shooting. With both my enhanced firing pin and the enhanced hammer spring it eliminated the light primer strikes. I shot my AR-47 70 times that day to test and it worked. Have not had any trouble since.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Currently optimizing my AR's for steel. Last range trip I shot 80 rounds of lacquered steel and had 2 failure to feeds. I've since polished my feed ramps with Flitz, hoping that resolves the issue. Thanks for watching!
@Irish_Hooligan
@Irish_Hooligan Жыл бұрын
Just built one myself. I am running a palmetto arms Milspec lower, Milspec springs etc. etc. BCA upper Gen2 charge handle (these came with the enhanced firing pin). I got their upper with the hammer forged barrel($280). Really like the lifetime warranty. Ironically, I am also running a primary arms LPVO, I got it for 170 brand new since they were running a deal. Duramag 28 round mags (to fit in my Molle magazine pouches ony my vest.)
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@scottminshall6420
@scottminshall6420 8 ай бұрын
Just stumbled across this video, I must say it was very informative, and I like your presentation with the cardboard that gave me a laugh, but it does help those who do want to screen shot your information. Now lets talk about the Mauser behind you in the first part of the video, looks like a scout rifle set up. Thanks again and happy shooting.
@alterego6935
@alterego6935 10 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed that, and learned a lot. Great info. I love my BCA-based AR-47 so far, and your video gave me a lot of crucial info to fine tune it with going forward. It is a heavy pig of a rifle (I have an LPVO also) but I like the 7.62 so much better than 5.56.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Yeah I feel most of us feel the same, just can't give up that 7.62 round!
@machinegunkelley3230
@machinegunkelley3230 8 ай бұрын
I have built both a AR47 pistol and rifle long before I seen this video and crazy enough, we run almost the exact parts mine both run great Love mine I prefer 7.62X39 OVER 5.56 ANYDAY! Great minds think alike, and you have a new subscriber!
@tontosilver6578
@tontosilver6578 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for all information shared based on your experience
@fortyfourrobo544
@fortyfourrobo544 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time. Great video. Answered all my questions. Most excellent bro!
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad I could help!
@henryvandervort9891
@henryvandervort9891 5 ай бұрын
Great video thank you for all the hard work
@colinmiller4598
@colinmiller4598 Жыл бұрын
With a couple of Faxon barrels, I had to open up the gas port a few sizes. Another time, a Bear Creek Arsenal enhanced firing pin had an uneven finish that kept the pin from floatly freely.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Was it an easy install/adjustment going to a mid-length gas system? I'd like to make a video on installing the gunner barrel later this year, however I don't know how that will fair with KZbin's new egregious guidelines.
@konaboss83
@konaboss83 10 ай бұрын
You’re getting another sub not only cuz your good at explaining these builds and your a ergo guy too :D
@SleeplessInFl
@SleeplessInFl Жыл бұрын
Right to bear is a good company. I have bought a lot of stuff but they never had any complaints
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@giannihernand91
@giannihernand91 Жыл бұрын
Great video brother. Very good explanation of all the potential problems and solutions about this setup.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad I could help!
@mynameisnobody5462
@mynameisnobody5462 Жыл бұрын
I picked up some AR mags and some pro mags because it's all I could find at this time . I did notice they are anti tilt followers, I hope they work . But C products seem to be the go to.
@CojacBlack91
@CojacBlack91 Жыл бұрын
You've come right on time for me thank you for the info
@mrrustygray
@mrrustygray 9 ай бұрын
My ASC magazines run great. I also have some C Prods. I under load by a round or two. I run a PSA upper, on an Anderson Lower, and have run it over and over and have zero issues. I did buy extras, as I do that for all weapons. Things break. Even Danny Defenders break.
@nonsquid
@nonsquid Жыл бұрын
Two more things to talk about regarding AR-47s. 1>Taking out the firing pin and chucking it up in a drill to face off the end travel with a metal file for light strikes. 2>Marking your AR look alike with a visible ranger band so you don't accidentally put an AR-15 magazine into you AR-47 rifle.
@Shatteredlightunderfadingstars
@Shatteredlightunderfadingstars Жыл бұрын
This is, EXACTLY, what i was looking for
@levay8224
@levay8224 9 ай бұрын
Got a m&p sport 2 and wanted to bump up calibers so I went ahead and ordered a BCA upper and so far and been a joy to run and duramags are go to
@Havenick
@Havenick 8 ай бұрын
I love this cardboard flow chart lmao. great vid
@ckarledge4441
@ckarledge4441 11 ай бұрын
great video with great info enhanced firing pin, H2 buffer and extra power hammer spring are a must I was getting light primer strikes even with an enhanced firing pin but when I upgraded to a heavier hammer spring it ran 100% adding the H2 worked best for me, H1 sucked and H3 was too heavy....oh and I always polish feed ramps which did help on my AR47 but I do it on all my AR styles gun...9mm, 5.56, .300, .450, .350 legend, 6mm, 6.5 and as always these gun are made to run clean and oiled I thought the .350 legend was the best hog round until I built some AR47..one shot drop, not as good as the .50 BMG but a lot cheaper
@drcivic88
@drcivic88 Жыл бұрын
Just the info I needed. Thanks for the video.
@ExtremelyAverageMan
@ExtremelyAverageMan Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@stevehei8035
@stevehei8035 6 ай бұрын
Good informative information on this subject in layman’s terms!
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