How to build a watcher infinite deck | Get Better at Slay the Spire

[@henrychen310]

Something worth mentioning is that the reason why it’s essential to have rushdown is because it not only lets you draw more cards, it lets you decrease the number of cards that are in the deck/discard by putting them in your hand. If you have around 10 cards in your deck, and rushdown lets you put all of them in your hand, you can play calm card, go -1 energy. Calm card goes into discard. Then play the wrath card that does damage. You are at -2 energy, but then exiting calm puts you at net zero energy, and entering wrath lets you draw cards, which brings the calm and wrath cards back into your hand, putting you at the same start you were at before. Key to this is getting your entire deck into your hand.

[@3hourgames]

Well said, a great addition. Thanks!

[@ryansolanics141]

I’m confused on why this isn’t working for me. I have vigilance (costs 2) and upgraded wrath (costs 1) I can bounce back and forth for a little but I still run out of energy. Playing both those cards costs three and you only get two energy back each time????

[@3hourgames]

@@ryansolanics141 you're going to need another source of calm that is 1 cost

[@ryansolanics141]

@@3hourgamesthank you for the quick response

[@3hourgames]

@@ryansolanics141 you're welcome! Hope that helps!

[@chrismanuel9768]

I accidentally went infinite with shivs once and I'm not sure how I managed, but I was generating more energy than I was using while filling my hand with 0 cost shivs

[@3hourgames]

hey if it works!

[@kayr0112]

I accidentally ended up making this for an infinite run (not sure of the modifiers name, but instead of beating the game you keep on playing with more negative modifiers, also on Ascension 3) and grew bored around floor 8xx

[@kayr0112]

I'd say Silent needs 2x acrobatic, 2x discard.this to get (optimally 2 energy) and 1 or 2 of discard this to draw 2 or 3 cards. Gamble (discard your hand and draw the same amount of cards) also helps for this

[@2PieceandABiscuit]

I went pretty close to infinite with a silent discard build. Using, tactician, dagger throw, acrobatics and some damage. I was able to gain a ton of block and do damage, then just keep repeating. A bad draw sucked but once it got going It was hard to stop

[@yyyihad]

Thank you! I finally managed to finish the game with the Watcher following your instructions.

[@3hourgames]

Excellent! well done!

[@4137Swords]

As soon as I saw the title, I was like "Oh I get it. The idea is to exit calm and enter wrath continuously to gain energy and draw cards, and hopefully repeat it with the cards you drew." That's smart! But yeah also hard! It sounds like a deck that once you get it running, you're almost unbeatable, but until then, it's very easy to die if you're not careful or if you get unlucky.

[@3hourgames]

It's challenging but very rewarding once you figure out how to do it. Beware though, it's a glass cannon of a deck and can be stopped cold by a few simple things.

[@4137Swords]

@3 Hour Games how do you beat the Heart with it? Since it is invincible after so much damage?

[@3hourgames]

@Ethan Schmidt It's actually pretty challenging, given the fact that you have to do it in multiple turns AND every time you play a card you get hit by beat of death. You have to build some safety into it, which can ruin some of the infinite, but provides essential things like block power. I think I may have actually beat the heart when I was putting that run together, give me a day or two and I'll see if I can put a quick tutorial guide together for you.

[@4thstateofmatter662]

this is a very late answer, but both mental fortress and talk to the hand are great for block since they're gone once you play them and give you block as you do what you're doing anyway

[@Niklasbrock]

Awesome video dude! So well explained, I understood it immediately. Thanks!

[@3hourgames]

Thank you! Best of luck! The watcher is hard to master but fun to break!

[@roberthunter6122]

So thanks to this guide I understood how to beat the heart. Plus getting Pandora's box was the best choice I ever made lmao

[@3hourgames]

That's awesome! Well done! PBox is almost an instant click for me.

[@8qjfhai8]

You should have spent 20 seconds showing the actual infinite lol

[@gwilkie01]

Thanks, man. Very helpful

[@3hourgames]

You're Welcome! Glad it was helpful.

[@G4mer_D4d]

So... start in calm if you can. Have eruption in hand and rushdown. Play rushdown.. now have 3 flurry of blows and a crescendo and calm card. *play the flurry of blows, calm stance, play flurry of blows, play wrath stance (draw 2), play flurry of blows, if you draw more wrath/calm; rinse n repeat* If you get mental fortress you are usually set up with enough block to try again next turn after simmering and meditate

[@3hourgames]

Seems about right!

[@G4mer_D4d]

@@3hourgames I had to go in and do the thing ln. Ended up with 3 flurries, 4 calm source (2 of the draw if calm and 1 meditate and the starter) 3 wrath sources and 2 emptys with a rushdown and the calm flower relic Also got early attack and skill eggs so I can just rest at campsites 😂. Made it through half of 3. Good times! Got too stoned. I'll finish it tonight

[@3hourgames]

@@G4mer_D4d enjoy! Sounds like you've got a great start

[@G4mer_D4d]

@@3hourgames it's almost over

[@loai9689]

after i finish from runs with other the other champs i collected a shards for them in the watcher run there are those shards what they do?

[@3hourgames]

The blue, green, and red keys? If you collect all three of those during a run and defeat the final boss, then you unlock the secret ending, I won't spoil what comes next for you.

[@loai9689]

@@3hourgames tysm ❤️

[@3hourgames]

@@loai9689 good luck! Once you unlock the end the entire game changes!

[@1starpeeps5stargames21]

No love for Runic Pyramid or Peace pipe? Both can be very helpful when trying to infinite on any character. weird to recommend tranquility for going infinite when it can only be played once per combat.

[@3hourgames]

As good as I know it is, I really have little love for Pyramid. I know it's a top tier relic and I know it can do great things, but my game is far from being able to make it work right. Mad respect to everyone who does. I do love a good peace pipe run, I just didn't get it during any of the runs I recorded so it slipped my mind when making the video.

[@dankl3ss194]

@@3hourgames R pyramid is free card removals if you have a lot of draws

[@Celestial-yq6hz]

It took me several tries to get an infinite running, even then it wasn’t as complete as I would’ve liked or have seen 😅

[@3hourgames]

You have to have SEVERAL stars align for an absolutely perfect infinite to work.

[@GigaChad1401]

CAW CAAAW! Also I'm quite sure the current watcher winstreak record holder was saying that tranquillity is a bad card, but I'm don't remember exactly why.

[@3hourgames]

Cawww Cawww! I'm not sure, I find tranquility quite useful (at least once it's been updated) but then again I'm not a record holder of any kind so....

[@ryansolanics141]

So do you have to have a one cost calm card? Vigilance costing two and a 1 cost wrath card would mean you would consistently be playing 3 energy to get 2 back???

[@3hourgames]

@@ryansolanics141 a 1 cost calm is the easiest way, or a 0 cost wrath works too!

[@3hourgames]

@@ryansolanics141 there's also a relic that gives 3 energy for leaving calm

[@ryansolanics141]

@@3hourgamesthanks for the quick responses. I am starting act three so I will look for a one cost ‘calm’ card to balance it out

[@ace_kicka]

great slay the spire content

[@3hourgames]

Thank you!

[@tobiewolfen01]

The Watcher is the true glass cannon out of the 4 decks. I keep messing up on getting the deck right only to get pawned by the final boss, and that's because I keep relying on shuffling through the deck to get what I need.

[@3hourgames]

I think that’s what makes it so fun, too. It’s such a volatile play style completely separate from the other 3. The required small deck/shuffling can cause the deck to stall out or get tanked by certain enemies much easier it seems.

[@OneInTheMosh]

Watcher really does feel like the deck that's the easiest to fuck up with the wrong cards. Defect too, but to a lesser extent. Really makes me appreciate how straightforward Ironclad and Silent are in comparison

[@OneInTheMosh]

@ChaosLord5129 Bullshit. I'm 35 hours in and have gotten to the heart with the other 3, but have taken twice as many attempts with Watcher as any of them and still haven't done it. I don't care if it's easier for super sweats, for newcomers such as the people who are most likely to be watching guides like this, she sure as hell fucking isn't easy to play

[@OneInTheMosh]

@ChaosLord5129 you might have won this battle but based on how you acted here, I'm pretty sure you're losing the war?

[@OneInTheMosh]

@ChaosLord5129 I'm saying your social skills need some serious work, best of luck champ

[@ButterInEveryOrifice]

My favorite way to go infinite is to do a discard deck with the Silent

[@3hourgames]

A good discard deck is so satisfying to build

[@justagent.exe.]

caw caw! i feel like a Watcher infinite also needs an upgraded Mental Fortress for safety reasons because there can be turns when you don't manage to go infinite. or maybe i'm not playing good enough

[@3hourgames]

It’s definitely helpful, but for the “pure turn 1 experience” can get in the way. I do love mental fortress though, especially if you can find calipers

[@tripwire202]

I once managed to get a pseudoinfinite with master reality, pray, and eruption. (Forgot to pick up a one cost calm card.) Consecrate + sands of time + vault tided me over for damage and the abacus fixed block for me. Very very fun :D Caw caaw!

[@3hourgames]

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[@Imaiddd]

Another great way i found if you cant find 1 cost clam card is to instead using Madness to make card cost 0 energy Caw-caw!!

[@3hourgames]

true, as long as it hits the right card!

[@Wiseguy150]

I've only ever managed to get an infinite once on the Ironclad. whenever I try to go for another I never see the cards I want and end up dying because I don't take cards in act 1 unless its the cards I need so my deck is weak. I figure less to remove later.

[@3hourgames]

I find that a lot of times you have to let the infinite be almost there before going all in. Sometimes you just don't roll the rewards needed to make it happen, and trying to force it usually bricks the run.

[@paulvilliers9211]

Caw caw ! Can you do another video about how to build infinite deck with other classes ? It would be great help ! Thanks for the video btw

[@3hourgames]

Caw Caww! Sure I’ll add it to the list. The others are more circumstantial as they don’t start with key cards to go infinite

[@3hourgames]

@Paul Villers if you haven’t seen it yet, the video I put up a few days ago has a nearly infinite claw build. This Claw Deck Had No Chance Against the Heart...or does it? kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2bWaaKhebCJgsk

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[@3hourgames]

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[@Omega3000-y9r]

How do you combat time eater and the heart with an infinite deck

[@3hourgames]

You need some way to mitigate damage and scale really quickly. Find 0 cost block cards, ornamental fan, or ways to add buffer.

[@excadream]

Nice video, but please check your audio quality, it's a bit... rough?

[@3hourgames]

I appreciate the honest feedback. thank you. I've been experimenting with some things on audio, can you tell me what specifically didn't sound great? Was it the tone of my voice? Volume? Aggressiveness? Something Else?

[@jogo-md8jq]

@@3hourgames It almost sounds like your mic maxes out from time to time, which causes the audio to feel more abrupt.

[@3hourgames]

thank you! I'll look into ways to avoid that in the future

[@jogo-md8jq]

@@3hourgames Try playing with your mic's gain, how loudly you speak and how far away you are from the mic. If all else fails you might just need a higher quality mic. There are some great guides on how to fix audio issues though, so I reccomend reading up on those. Good luck! Looking forward to watching your channel grow.

[@excadream]

Thank you other internet citizens for eloquently explaining what my sleep-deprived brain could not u.u

[@kole9158]

Bro i can not for the life of me figure out the watcher - 100 runs with her and i cant beat the spire with her, ive beat it with everyone else easily but shes a nightmare for me

[@3hourgames]

Watcher is a completely different play style. It's tough. I had an excellent watcher aggro run the other day but unfortunately my video file got corrupted, it would have been an excellent one to show you. Focus on big damage, and control the game through the different stances and scry.

[@kole9158]

@3hourgames thanks mate, to be fair this alone is helpful, i dont think ive every really dedicated a run to big damage im always busy trying to play the long game which might not be the approach - thanks again i think im going to watch a few more ofnyour videos then give it another shot

[@3hourgames]

@@kole9158 great! Hope it helps! The big thing to get over with the watcher is that wrath stance isnt as scary as it seems. You don't have to worry about taking damage if the enemies are dead!

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