How to Build ANTISTALL Teams in Gen 9 OU

[@pinkacross2042]

ALSO: Trick and Switcheroo pokemon can be great against stall, since tricking a Choice item or Sticky Barb is nearly death for a Stall pokemon. Some of the best are Choice Scarf Trick Gholdengo, Sticky Barb Trick Clefable, Switcheroo Scarf / CB Sneasler, and Trick Black Sludge Galarian Slowking. Thank you to @HologramsClapGod for reminding me of this!

[@Dr.Maxlance]

This video was very helpful, but I wonder, how do we beat things that are not stall, like Chien-Pao, or other breakers? I would like to see a video on how to counter the current metas.

[@pinkacross2042]

@@Dr.Maxlance Videos on countering other playstyles will likely be coming in the future! None have such clear counterplay as stall, but there are still ways to make your team better against them.

[@Dr.Maxlance]

@@pinkacross2042 Awesome, can't wait!

[@primelake21]

UPDATE: run triple axel>thunder punch

[@pinkacross2042]

@@primelake21 Triple Axel is definitely a good move to run but hitting Corviknight is important as well. I suppose it can be pressured with SR + U-turn though, so Triple Axel is probably better.

[@MariotheAnimator]

My favorite stall killer was always Stored Power Reuniclus. I used to run it with Energy Ball specifically for Unaware Quagsire.

[@pinkacross2042]

I LOVED running that. Calm Mind + Stored Power + Recover + Toxic in gen 8 actually beats every stall pokemon, I love it.

[@weesticles650]

In NatDex I find Obstagoon to be an amazing stallbreaker. He gets access to Taunt and with STAB Tera normal Facade you can usually nuke anything that doesn't resist or is immune to normal type attacks. Plus he's the only Guts mon with access to Switcheroo and Trick which means against Stall teams he can steal Leftovers from them and give them the Flame Orb which if they're a physical attacking Stall mon like Clodsire it'll be incredibly detrimental to them.

[@pinkacross2042]

This seems like a great strategy!

[@tigerlover2853]

I used to use Obstagoon all the time, I used him with Throat Chop because I despised Skeledirge, funny how nobody uses him now.

[@EasterRab]

I'd like to add that haxorus is probably the best wall breaker if you use life orb, adamant, and a singular dragon dance, with tera electric tera blast, earthquake, and iron head, you can kill about anything. If it doesn't one shot it will two-shot.

[@pinkacross2042]

I agree that Haxorus is one of the best solely at wallbreaking, but it can be difficult to justify on a team otherwise sadly. Such a cool mon.

[@unreachableforme]

​@@pinkacross2042😊

[@Noah-je2xj]

Lately Heatran has become one of my favorite Pokémon to use for how it can pick apart stall. Almost every team will be running one or two bulky water/ground types, and it’s almost always worth it to Tera grass to lure one of those so you can remove for a physical sweeper like Sneasler

[@apiratcc]

Content that every showdown player needed! (even those evil stall players too)

[@PreciousLuna1988]

Stall is not evil. In general trainers lack the knowledge to beat stall

[@Hazel_B4]

​@@PreciousLuna1988nah its evil

[@kaio0777]

Agree stall was made by the devil

[@sambews5679]

Oh my god please keep making videos. This is exactly the type of content I was looking for

[@pinkacross2042]

Will do! :]

[@srijanbadhya6959]

We thank you for your valuable contribution as a social worker, making change to benefit humanity 🙏

[@shach144]

As someone trying to find success with Tyranitar + Hatterene-two of my favorite 'mons-this gen, seeing this helped give some clarity to my teambuilding. Two moments, I recall going into 100+ turns against and stall team double-switching or throwing out predicts. My team had three pivots with the sixth member kind of a random pick (I have an extremely terrible track record with not being able to decide on a sixth team member). I use Assault Vest Tyranitar to take on Tera Grass Iron Moth and soft check Gholdengo to enable Banded Rillaboom - my team's priority cleaner. Corviknight and FakeTurn Sneasler comprise the three-man pivot core, meaning the only thing I was missing was a hazards setter that could pair well with Corviknight, so I shuffled between Lando-T, Gliscor, and Great Tusk. Needless to say, especially after watching this, I need to rethink my teambuilding strategy. I'm also nervous about trading Assault Vest for Choice Band on Tyranitar, but I'm not unfamiliar with how hard he hits with it, especially now that he FINALLY gets Knock Off. I've beaten Blissey with Hatterene by feigning the absence of Psyshock until about 3-4 CM boosts in, so unless they're aware of which Psychic-type move she's using, keeping Psyshock in place of Stored Power can surprise them, especially if another has already Tera'd.

[@pinkacross2042]

I would advise against using Tyranitar as a Gholdengo answer, soft or not. Still though, CB Tyranitar certainly CAN work. Try to pair it with something that brings in pokemon that are weak on the physical side, like a U-turn Zapdos, a Volt Switch Rotom-Wash, or a Flip Turn Walking Wake.

[@ryanditto6720]

Really good point about how the Knock user has to have a good matchup against the main Knock absorbers. I've also never really thought of Glowking being a piece for stallbreaking. Great vid, more players need to see this

[@pokelee]

I've actually heard Highv0ltag3 imply that running Glowking was matchup fishing, which I thought was ridiculous (because it's such a widely useful pokemon, the opposite of a matchup 'mon,) but it does illustrate how much hard stall hates seeing it.

[@justinw8916]

The galarian slowking tip is such a good idea! There was a time that i was against stall and when i thought i couldnt break it i realized i was putting insane pressure on them bc of fs+chilly spam

[@lelandwhitehead56]

Congrats on 1k subscriptions!

[@pinkacross2042]

Thank you!

[@DylanChampDubs]

Ive been running a Choice Scarf Meowscarada w/ Trick, Knock Off, FlowerTrick and U-Turn and it seems to do well for all kinds of utility and stall break. Nice video and thank you !

[@annisaiskandar906]

your videos are godsent man, we really need this esp w flipwish momola around

[@LordRabia]

keep up the good work fam, glad to see your channel pop off lately

[@CodyLarson1993]

As a stall lover Pinkacross…this video is devastating lol! Great video and let the war begin!!!

[@pinkacross2042]

Thank you! Yea this is a rough gen for stall... not much of a war this time around, until some bans happen likely.

[@Passbyword]

i not much into competitive pokemon nowdays but i love watching some videos about them and this video is well made. i hope you can cover more videos like this and that your channel will grew more!

[@pinkacross2042]

Thanks! I'll certainly be doing more content like this, it seems like my most popular stuff thus far.

[@Passbyword]

@@pinkacross2042 that good to know hope to see more of it in future!

[@VicBossMG]

Maus and Weavile with sd knock with boots is good into stall as well, encore a corv into recover and chip it with pop Bomb and it will eventually need to switch if can catch them on a recover and Weavile threatens gliscor so can gradually get chip on corv as well giving gsmbit more room ltr to finish things off with like Tera fighting low kick on a sleeping dozo doing a three hit ko, from my exp in the 1800s

[@pinkacross2042]

This is a great point, Maushold can really threaten stall these days since Skeledirge and Gholdengo are so rare. That Weavile + Maushold core sounds awesome! Keep being creative! :D

[@pretty_fly_for_a_jeskai]

Incredible content, stall deserves no quarter. Agency draft eyes up

[@motherlove8366]

If I learned anything from national dex ag it's that the best stallbreaker is sticky hold leppa recycle trubbish, ony way to beat assist cats. Granted it is a little bit of a niche option Tbh I see a lot of players put way too much focus on unwallable mons without thinking too much of how the team works, if you're a clever stall players and you're facing semi stall with a conk or smt you can usually maneuver to have a midground in at all times. As tempting as instant beat all fixes like this are it's always better imo to think about stuff like how to draw out certain mons, what mon can they afford to have on the field the most, how are they allocating pp, which behaviours am I forcing to actually get my mons in Slowking is great because it allows you to have a mon unthreatened by stall, but other mons like clef or gliscor also do that and can serve as a reset or a way to draw predictable behaviour My favorite way to beat bulky team by far has always been to stack threats with similar counters or that have offensive redundancy, because it means that on that specific point you've allocated more offensive resources that they can afford to allocate defensively without compromising other matchups Also getting your ditto knocked off should work as well for infinite pp. And I've never tried tera normal facade gliscor but I can't foresee it being bad either Great video

[@pinkacross2042]

Great comment, I agree with this! Definitely considering team structure and flow is important and just having 1 unwallable pokemon isn't a guarenteed win against Stall. Also that trubbish thing sounds hilarious lol

[@motherlove8366]

@@pinkacross2042 Thanks, great video. I got the trubbish strat from Elo Bandit when he was talking about revive cats, national dex ag is kinda dead now since they removed the ladder (in part because of revive cats) but it's a fun piece of pokemon history to know about if you're interested kzbin.info/www/bejne/gofalqJrhdGjmbssi=sb4fie6XDud_sR8M

[@dirkauditore8413]

Keep up the good work bro :)

[@Harmless_Music]

While these are all good Pokemon that attack Stall well, I think what will help with video topics like these is providing examples of abilities and specific moves that allow excellent stallbreaking roles. Some of them were mentioned quite late in the video, but stuff like Taunt and Mold Breaker are quintessential methods of matching up well versus Stall, without compromising power versus other styles of play. Still, a good video nonetheless, and I like the thought process behind each of the individual mons. Thunderus-Therian and Breloom are very underrated this gen I feel

[@jkthebongoman3652]

I LOVE STALLBREAKING WHOOOOO

[@the_man861]

Finally someone fight the war against stall not on the side of stall

[@quiche6400]

Ur vids are so epic and informative thank you

[@danielspahn3891]

Big up that guy during olt who loaded up just ghold and hoopa u just to snipe some guy with stall

[@MajinBuddha]

Burn Blissey, burn! 🔥

[@Squaredasher]

Honestly breloom has been absolutely insane against stall for me. You see those mons at the start of the vid? None of them can switch into CB loom safely. Lots of normals, steels, and waters on stall, and even the mons neutral to it still can't hard switch into the raw power- corv is 2HKOed by close combat, 5 hit bullet seed OHKOs clef and even has a chance to OHKO pex and gliscor with 5 hits, so they really can't hard switch in because you're pretty likely to get at least 5 hits total, clod gets shredded too, and even if they run something good against breloom like glowking, bulldoze shuts that down too- the only thing that can really switch into breloom safely is amoonguss, but you can wear that down a lot with smart double switching. Breloom isn't just a stallbreaker too- mach punch lets it not only force switches against more frail offensive mons like cinderace, greninja, and ogerpon so that it can take risks and punish those switch-ins, or just go for the safer play if you really need a revenge killer (on that note, if your opponent has already used their tera on something else, breloom is a 100% surefire answer to kingambit no matter how many boosts they have or whatever sucker punch mindagmes they wanna pull). It also is an excellent late game cleaner with tera fighting mach punch to get rid of weakened opponents. It beats offense, it beats balance, it beats stall, breloom is way too good to be UU imo. (Trust me I have no bias whatsoever)

[@pinkacross2042]

I agree, Breloom is awesome! I'd love to try making a team with it.

[@aquilonthepro8319]

I mean hey! No better chad move than winning with your fave pokemon. XD

[@Cynsham]

if it works it works. breloom still putting in work

[@Squaredasher]

@@pinkacross2042 As a certified breloom expert, breloom is slow and frail but is quite possibly the best pokemon in the game at forcing switches and then taking advantage of said switches. While the initial appeal of breloom would be spore, which stops the opponent from moving for the next 1-3 turns (note that the sleep counter increases when that pokemon attempts to use a move and not at the end of the turn), I personally find that the sheer damage output of choice band is more valuable than something like sash spore on all but the most aggressive of teams. Now, spore does still have some use on choice band sets (especially if you don't have as much trouble with gholdengo), but in general, you wanna run mach punch, bullet seed, close combat, and then usually bulldoze in the last slot to hit stuff like gholdengo, but you can also run rock tomb for enamorus, fire punch for amoonguss, or even spore just as a general "idk what they're gonna switch into but it's not something immune to spore and nothing in the game likes being put to sleep". As for EV spreads, I don't really see merit to any bulk investment unless you're running poison heal, so just max attack max speed, though the nature is an interesting debate. Adamant is generally preferred to jolly due to hitting better damage thresholds like cc OHKOing wake and 2HKOing max phydef corv, but jolly can hit a few important speed targets like non-speedboost valiant after a bulldoze drop. As for tera type, I generally prefer fighting to increase your revenge killing power with mach punch, in addition to the fact that the weaknesses from your grass typing tend to come up more often than those from your fighting typing (though that's a bit less true now that you don't need to tera fighting in order to live a +1 or +2 ice shard from bax), but tera grass is also an option to live a fairy or psychic attack if needed. As for teammates, you generally want some good pivots to be able to bring in breloom safely- my personal favorite being spdef rotom-wash, but pult and cinderace are also good. Hazards are also great due to how many switches you force simply by being on the field. It also enjoys a good mid-game sweeper to punch holes in a team- in fact other fighting types are good for this so that you can lure in and wear down the things that wall breloom (my personal choice for this role is sneasler, though valiant is probably better for this role even if it tends to be more late-game) so that you have a wounded team that can be cleaned up with mach punch. Speaking of mach punch: you really need something to deal with the tier's prominent ghost types (pult and ghold) or you're not gonna be able to chip them down every time you get an opportunity to revenge kill. I personally don't use gambit because I think it's unethical, but overall I'd say a good core is loom, sneasler, gambit, rotom-w, gliscor, and then probably either amoonguss or bulky cinderace in the last slot to deal with opposing gambit via status after it teras. I'll whip up a pokepaste in just a sec.

[@pinkacross2042]

@@Squaredasher This is a great analysis! I'd love to see a pokepaste compiling your ideas, please send when you complete it. :]

[@mr.trollsaur9996]

That beginning image hurt my soul

[@monkj9463]

As a prolific stall player there is a lot of misinformation about is strong against it but this was a really great and intelligent analysis

[@pinkacross2042]

Thanks, I'm happy to hear you agree with my analysis! :]

[@ThusSpokeDrDoctor]

As a stall enjoyer thank you for the heads up

[@manoelpaulo8592]

Contrats for 1k Bro👏🏻

[@pinkacross2042]

Thank you!

[@bradnewsbear]

Stall has been nerfed into the ground so hard any offensive team will wipe the floor with it, it's all about using the same 10 pokemon now and spamming stat boosts and ridiculously powerful moves and then lying to yourself into thinking that it's skillful

[@Threveroj]

Just faced stall and have extreme emotions

[@pinkacross2042]

Understandable. I hope this guide helps. >:]

[@boomsandapples2640]

Great video!

[@spit-fire]

My fave type of anti stall is a mon is a special attacker with taunt, recovery/wish support.

[@StarfieldDisarray]

A stallbreaker I saw mentioned recently that I've been thinking about is Analytic Magnezone; a lot of Pokemon on Gen 9 Stall are Water or Flying so Analytic Volt Switch deals a *ton* of damage and sets up 2HKOs on a lot of the team, if not being able to OHKO itself with Thunderbolt or Flash Cannon. The calcs work out in its favor but I can't help but think "This thing probably gets chipped out super easy" and it does not fare well into Ground types but hopefully Gliscor won't be a problem for much longer.

[@pinkacross2042]

Analytic Magnezone seems very cool. Sadly, once Gliscor leaves, Ting-Lu will probably rise back up in usage, and that thing is the ultimate death of Magnezone. :/ Still maybe with Tera Blast Ice / Water it could go crazy.

[@jkthebongoman3652]

Run tera ice for bolt beam

[@pjweaver8496]

really informative

[@bchan5156]

This might be the best video of all time (I hate stall with a passion)

[@evansmith2832]

To me, stall will never be as frustrating as it was in oras.

[@pinkacross2042]

I wasn't active back in ORAS but I gotta say gen 7 stall is my least favorite... I'm glad stall is having a rough generation.

[@sramain2852]

My all-time favorite anti-stall strategy is using Gothitelle, even tho it only works in Ubers, nothing will ever match the sadistic pleasure I feel when locking Clodsires or Eternati into slowly dying away by struggle

[@cerulean3569]

Amazing vid

[@fredthewreckyt]

love the intro so much i cant 😂

[@AlexMartinez-fu5nb]

Gholdengo is so nasty for stall, it's ability and access to immediate power and / or Recover makes it super difficult to deal with

[@Juan-rz2ye]

Amen to that ending statement 🤣

[@MrZoblox]

LETS GO ANTI STALL

[@braedenwinstead1984]

A really great stallbreaker is calm mind val with moonblast thunderbolt and psyshock because literally the only thing that beats it is terra dark max spD clod or terra dark calm mind blissy, in which case your forcing terra and still doing a good chunk with moonblast

[@pinkacross2042]

That will sometimes break stall, but Tera Steel Clodsire shuts it down pretty solidly, along with Toxic from Toxapex since you can't OHKO at +1. Most well-played stall teams won't lose to that Iron Valiant unless you have additional support (such as Future Sight).

[@braedenwinstead1984]

@@pinkacross2042 very few clodsires run terra steel and those that do are going to have to fear getting hit with fighting move immediately after they do. Toxapex is a valid point but "losing" to a stall Mon by doing 70% is a pretty good one Mon package!

[@kuribro443]

I like to use powertrip corviknight cuz he's immune to a lot of chip damage and it's really hard to KO.

[@pinkacross2042]

That can certainly destroy stall

[@syah7991]

I think magic bounce hatterene is amazing at beating stall. Ditto can also put in work since it had so many chances to get new pp and defensive abilities/moves.

[@pinkacross2042]

Very true! Magic Bounce can limit both hazards and status, which is how stall mostly makes progress, and Ditto can really play the long game and avoid burning PP.

[@VisibleNoises]

Ursaluna, Hoopa are very difficult to deal with as Stall.

[@MrSoler]

Im a low-mid ladder player in 1600s rn ,my best counter stall in my dark spam team is Tera Dark Banded Hoopa-U. 2hko's everymon and goes through protect

[@MrSoler]

Sub seed Serp is also one of my favs, but good players always find a way to pp stall

[@Yuukl1v9]

Taunt gengar and galar moltres very underrated at breaking stall too

[@pinkacross2042]

Yea both of those DESTROY stall teams. (Although Gengar can lose to Unaware Clodsire, so Tera Flying is probably best for that).

[@getmilked6216]

my favorite stall breaker was transform imprision block mew from gen 8

[@pinkacross2042]

I'd say that's more of a cheese gimmick than a stall breaker-- but it could work sometimes, and it was certainly amusing when it did.

[@getmilked6216]

@@pinkacross2042 ill admit it was pretty meh against more offensive teams but against slower bulkier teams or really anything with a toxapex it did wonderful for itself. regenerator heals you if you copy toxapex and having the ability to steal hazard mons was always fantastic

[@algar6616]

Smooth moves for the peeps

[@Youknowmikekhan]

Amazing vid lmao what we really need

[@BiffTheBanana]

This is insane

[@artemissrijan473]

God tier opening

[@Auburn_Drifter]

Well boys we've done it, Stall is no more

[@pinkacross2042]

Sadly it lives on, but we weaken it one step at a time. >:]

[@gowa423]

I forfeited against the Hydrapple stall team bc I was too bored so I will watch this video so i can destroy those evil Gliscors and Blisseys

[@borjatorres5827]

Ok now, what can do a stall player to win against this?

[@pinkacross2042]

Hope your opponent doesn't prepare, mostly. It's a very MU-fishy playstyle. You CAN outplay these bad MUs by playing aggressively and going for some reads (same as every other playstyle) but it's pretty difficult to outplay bad MUs with stall.

[@Crequao]

Love this video but I have issue specs knock off against stall as most people will try to get their gliscor in as often as possible and just click protect to scout.

[@pinkacross2042]

They can't keep their Gliscor in for the entire game, so as long as your team has a few things that force it out (which all good teams should have), I don't anticipate that will be an issue. Due to the strength of Walking Wake and Thundurus in particular, even SpDef Gliscor won't be able to switch in without risking being OHKOd.

[@Kingink7]

That team absolutely destroyed me yesterday 😭

[@livanovah]

love the part where he showed how stall can beat stall 11:21

[@tomgorey9294]

as an evil stall player, great video:D

[@MegaMachiOnline]

Grimmsnarl bullies a good bit

[@WifiMerriman]

I like Skeledirge with unaware plus Torch Song against stall and wall Sub by singing a Torch Song to bypass

[@Poliwaykami]

Makes me feel strong emotions, cause I am a stall player 3:) jk I play pivioting offense on national dex

[@Winterbub]

Fire vid 🔥

[@echo5172]

I'm an inside agent gathering info for Big Stall

[@pinkacross2042]

:O

[@mercizz]

This got recommended on my feed and immediately an unknown emotion rose in my chest. I clicked. Edit: It was not a good feeling.

[@bananabread162]

The worst is when you knock eachothers pokenon down to a 1v1 after 200 turns and still lose. Just a waste of time and energy

[@pinkacross2042]

Yea, that can be pretty rough. It's a big time-saver to know when your odds are good / bad

[@AvaluggEnjoyer420]

I like to use assault vest hoopa unbound vs stall

[@pinkacross2042]

That works very well, yes!

[@MaesterAlex]

Ngl, tera Ghost Garg is a great counter to Blissy, Corv, Don and Toxipex.

[@GlassShadowsPkmn]

would of been great to include Trick or Switcheroo choice items

[@pinkacross2042]

Great point! Trick does work very well.

[@melikmourali2072]

I have found that Sub + Swords dance + Smack Down Landorus-Therian does very well just because there is no bulky pure grass like Tangrowth to stop it. It can also 3HKO Dondozo with Earthquake after Tera Ground (edit : 62% chance to 3HKO). Kind of niche, but I've not lost to stall with it yet

[@pinkacross2042]

Yea that sounds really solid as well, I'd love to give that set a try sometime.

[@KW4TA]

what EVs do u use

[@pinkacross2042]

@@KW4TA My guess would be max speed max attack with an Adamant Nature, potentially Jolly depending on the team.

[@deeznoots6241]

Tbh respect to anybody running stall in this stupid hyperoffensive metagame

[@ebonyotter9812]

Uh oh, is this another war on stall?

[@XerneusDonut]

Folks the true stall counter is Whimsicott stall shall burn before Whimsicott

[@Richard-ec8xy]

Been facing a lot of stall on natdex ladder and let me say god i miss mega gyarados. Nobody does it better. Setting up on dondozos fat ass all day and making sure every mon is taunted every turn, even mega sableye

[@Richard-ec8xy]

Also the modern stall style of dondozo Gliscor clodsire corv clef blissey garg except for the latter three are terrified of freeze dry. for this reason I think kyurem is a fantastic Mon for busting stall. DD+ iron head (or earth power) + dragon move + freeze dry puts stall in a very precarious spot

[@pinkacross2042]

I agree, Mixed Kyurem is incredible against Stall! And yea I miss Megas too... my boi Mega Heracross would've ruined stall as well

[@Threveroj]

❤

[@gooseyj9390]

Wow I literally lost the exact team he showed in the beginning like yesterday

[@pinkacross2042]

It shall not happen again! >:]

[@RocketPropelledMexican]

No mention of sub users? Breaking sub can be a pain for stall teams. Trick Scarf Gholdengo is also a major pain for stall. Trick scarf in general is, it essentially removes one mon from play vs a stall team. Also Gliscor is a funny mon that is useful both on and against stall due to it being THE status + knock absorber compressed into one mon that can also knock opposing mons. Its actually kinda ridiculous the amount of role compression it has. There's a lot of stuff stacking against stall this gen imo. The reason its not less played is because this gen HO is extremely prevalent, and stall exploits poorly constructed/played HO teams very nicely. Like imagine if ape were still unbanned, that thing was around natdex for a while and it was basically an auto-lose if you were running stall.

[@pinkacross2042]

Sub can definitely be annoying for stall, that's a good point. I agree, stall is not a very good playstyle this gen.

[@themister.s-1st]

Before the vid ends. Toxic Spike / Will o Wisp + Hex!!!

[@pinkacross2042]

Blissey recently got access to Heal Bell, and Stall has a lot of solid status absorbers now as well as several poison types to absorb Toxic Spikes, so this isn't the best to counter Stall. That being said, Sub Wisp Hex Darts Dragapult can scare certain stall teams!

[@themister.s-1st]

Big Pink!!! While I have your attention I gotta know, how much difference you think there is between Houndstone+ Last Respect and King Gambit with Supreme Overlord and Sucker Punch. For the life of me I can’t see why 1 was banned but the other wasn’t

[@pinkacross2042]

@@themister.s-1st I'd say the difference is pretty huge. Sucker Punch has a lot more resistances and 4x resistances and requires setup. Last Respects can be 300 base power without any setup required and it is very difficult to resist.

[@themister.s-1st]

@@pinkacross2042 doesn’t ‘Gambits high defence and HP plus Swords dance cover for the resistances? It’s number 1 on the OU rankings for a reason where I personally would like to see it with the ‘Ape and Volcarona in Ubers.

[@pinkacross2042]

@@themister.s-1st It's very good, but it doesn't compare to Last Respects. You can take a look at some old replays to see why. Kingambit is not even close to being as broken as a 300 BP move immediately.

[@livanovah]

me (a stall player) "researching"

[@PierceLavoy]

Even tho I take your teams I’m still trash but I’m still trying 😂

[@coolcebolla]

Honestly with gen 9, the less sense a teambuild makes, the better. The inverse of 20+ years of Pokémon...unlearn what you've learned type shit

[@pokelee]

Another tactic that I didn't hear you mention was Encore (similar to Taunt.) It shuts down Dondozo, Garg, Blissey, Clefable, and Alomomola, protect scouting, etc., and allows you to set up or chip down, depending on the circumstances.

[@pinkacross2042]

Encore isn't nearly as effective as Taunt since Stall can typically switch without much issue (it's the playstyle that's least bothered by switching), but in the right situations Encore can be a helpful tool.

[@pokelee]

@pinkacross2042 I've seen both Blim and Blunder use it to great effect against stall. Like a complete dismantling. Encore definitely has merit.

[@pinkacross2042]

@@pokelee Usually Blim and Blunder play in quite low ladder and the stall players do a poor job of navigating around Encore. You are correct that it can be a good tool, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it extremely "anti-stall." The right sets using Encore certainly can threaten stall though, notably Encore Knock Off Ogerpon-Wellspring.

[@pokelee]

@pinkacross2042 Okay dude, I can't continue. Blim does *not* play low ladder, he generally plays 1800‐1900s, sometimes he may play mid-ladder, but more often than not he plays up high or even at the very top. Blunder dicks around in the low ladder, but the instance I was talking about was probably around 1700s. I don't want you to think that I think Encore is the ultimate strat, no, it's not even my strategy of choice. I was just saying that I've seen it be very effective, and it's worth mentioning. You are super disrespectful, particularly to Blim. Either that, or you've never watched him and you're BSing. Either way, I gotta go. ✌️

[@pinkacross2042]

​@@pokelee I did not intend to be argumentative and I had no idea that you were growing angry as we discussed encore. I was under the impression that you were leaving a comment here to discuss. I simply didn't want to give the perception that Encore would ruin stall, since Stall does have some decent tools against it. It's been a while since I've seen a video from Blim or Blunder, last I saw they were in mid ladder. When I said "quite low ladder" I was talking about low ladder FOR stall, since often top level stall is often 1900+ or so. It was not an insult to either of them (both are talented players but often mid and lower ladder makes for better content), simply saying that anecdotal evidence doesn't indicate what works well against stall as a whole. Please refrain from making judgments about my character.

[@volcanicz6739]

Does this apply for NatDex OU as well?

[@pinkacross2042]

NatDex is a different metagame and I'm not sure what Stall looks like there, but the principles in the video can certainly be applied. In particular, I'm sure natdex has plenty of unwallable breakers in the lower tiers.

[@dirkauditore8413]

Banded Victini in Sun obliterates stall :)

[@naavvv1]

196 full turns , switching around back and forth FIRING DRACO METEORS and i lost. Now gliscor is my least favorite pokemon MIND U I HAD SLOW PIVOT POKEMON LIKE CORV AND ALOMAMOLA. STILL 196 DAMN TURNS

[@mahrii3093]

I lost tournament to stall Never again

[@ChrisVaughan-x2q]

All you need for stall is ogerpon well spring

[@pinkacross2042]

It's a really fantastic tool, but you still need something to prepare for Tera Dragon Gliscor and Dondozo.

[@The_Natalist]

Awesome, now you will never win again (I play stall)

[@DIRTkat_ofc]

A spy!

[@balancemaster55]

ban stall! let us be happy. long games when showdown already gives you a minute per turn is insane .

[@stallempir3]

this coming from the guy who says thundurus therian beats stall lmao

[@pinkacross2042]

... It does.

[@stallempir3]

me when tera steel pex destroys it:

[@pinkacross2042]

@@stallempir3 Tera steel Pex doesn't enjoy SR chip + Volt Switch one bit--- and it takes a hefty chunk from Tera Blast Flying even when max invested. It's not a counter to a well-built team with Thundurus.

[@videakias3000]

stall does not exist in gen 9. this guide is useless. you made this guide one generation too late.

[@nero9506]

How to defeat a stall team 101: - Pick Gholdengo; - EV it to make a bulky variant; - Give it Nasty Plot, Psyshock and its STABs; - Tera Flying to completely wall Gliscor and Clodsire; - Nasty Plot up and spam moves; - 6-0 the opponent;