How to build BIG in Valheim with less "Lag"

[@BBSonofa]

Worth supporting, I actually got lost in the underground.

[@Dhakhar]

Great tips, clearly explained and very well presented!

[@9byte]

Much appreciated Dhakhar

[@konohake]

cannot tell you how many forts, castles and hangers i have had to cut short untill i myself found the instance limit back in my first 100 hours of playing the game. really happy we have mod and tools nowdays for people to enjoy thier creativty without disruption ^^

[@4Mik]

you explained everything really well! the flow of the video is perfect as well I'd say :D

[@9byte]

Much appreciated Mik!

[@canorousdesign]

one other tip that i recommend for stability is using the ice_floor instead of the rock for concealing inside builds; the benefit of that is that unlike rocks it doesn't change the terrain on the ground and it floats by default. That way can have a single stretched out piece for ceilings and floors at higher levels and even bridges can have grass and lillypads etc under them. The ice floor is also a piece that even stretched up and resized retains its shape in vanilla worlds without mods. awesome video with all the details. Jere's mods carry creative building for me XD

[@mortanos8938]

Had I known this sooner I would have built entirely differently. I basically did everything wrong. I pay great attention to detail, even filling gaps that are not neccesssary for either cosmetics or the stability, so I have yet to check how many instances I created on my gigantic mistlands build. My lag is extreme. I basically just look at individual pictures when trying to move through my build. However, all that is of no consequence now anyway since I can no longer use the devcommands or debugmode since the newest update. If anyone knows a way around this dilemma I would be greatly thankful. Excellent and very helpful guide Ninebyte, Thankyou !

[@9byte]

No problem glad I could help. The devcommands and debugmode are built into the game so there should be no problems there unless you dont have -console in your launch options anymore or unless you have mode that could be interfering. Mods are all being updated for the new Valheim update so you should go and see if new versions are out if you are using mods.

[@mortanos8938]

@@9byte Thanks for answering so soon

[@9byte]

@@mortanos8938 no problem

[@leezawillshe71]

Very informative ! So much stuff I did not know. TY

[@9byte]

No problem!

[@shagartz-l6t]

Fantastic, you rock dude

[@JackPitmanNica]

This was a great video, I havent seen another valheim video like it. Good job!

[@9byte]

Much appreciated Jack!

[@WickedDiva]

Fantastic and helpful tips. I always struggle with frame rates and instances and generally do remove almost everything in my area but will definitely remove all before I build going forward. I found the large marble pieces the other day (among a few dozen other items no one seems to use), shame they don't have them in regular stone or wood flooring.

[@cellvsgohan1]

You are AWESOME! Thank you for such amazing info and tips, this helped me out immensely! Much love ❤

[@9byte]

👍👍

[@kongvealsurvives]

Thanks for an interesting video. Lots of great tips. I didn't know about the marble column or big floor. I will have to use those. Well, I didn't know about most of those tips. lol Thanks a bunch!!!

[@9byte]

No problem Kongveal, thank you for the kind words, hope you're doing well!

[@NegativeROG]

I suck at building, but I love doing it. What you've done is amazing. I don't have a problem with mods, either: Right now, I have 281 mods. Takes forever to load. But mods add sooooo much to this game. I will try everything you've suggested, maybe it'll make me a better builder. This is our (wife's and mine) #1 game.

[@9byte]

Glad I could help! That is INSANE, I've never heard of anyone anywhere near that many mods! So cool.

[@Andrew94750]

It's 2024 and this is super useful! I hope these mods are still up to date.

[@Onyx-_-liquor]

Love the mods thank you! Is there tutorial for using them though? I'm having troubles with raising terrain

[@CamGG__68]

What have you guys been using to manage your mods? Doing it manually? Ive used nexus & vortex in the past. Curious what everyone is doing!

[@9byte]

most of us do manually.

[@deepsundar6021]

how to get that "black marble floor 4x4"? I really need that mod to get that type of big floor and column.

[@shanetaylor5577]

Subscribed recently and have been loving your videos! Keep it up! Quick question - I followed your advice on a build recently and used the blackmarble_column_3 and blackmarble_floor_large. For some reason, the floor pieces snap together very well but I can't get the columns to snap. Is there a trick for this or did you experience it too? I'm finding it difficult to build nice straight and level walls but I want to save instances. Thanks!

[@9byte]

They dont snap unfortunately. If you are using Infinity Hammer then select and marble column and nudge them into place rather than bringing in new ones each time.

[@fernandogouveia2924]

Does items stored in chests also count towards instances? Or only build pieces? Awesome vid, btw! Love your all your builds.

[@mbradley274]

Love it, but I have a question. How do you use ship_under_construction to lower the ground below the 16m limit? When I place it, it's at whatever ground level I'm standing which is -16m at the lowest. I can't fly below the surface of the ground, so I'm stuck at -16m unless I'm standing next to a steep cliff and place a ship into the cliff.

[@9byte]

You could use a mod to place below where you are standing like Infinity Hammer mod which has a nudge tool but that would be defeating most of the purpose of using this method. Otherwise you would have to come in from the side taking advantage of a lower elevation next to the area that you want to lower... meaning that if you want to use this method it would require you to choose the place you are building with that in mind... which is the way we practiced and the way I was assuming it would be used.

[@mbradley274]

@@9byte Awesome, thanks for the response.

[@ASimpleInternetUser]

Oh, another video that makes me want to build in Valheim again. Big surprise from ninebyte. 😂 I never did get my custom modpack to work properly. I'll have to pick someone's brain in the Discord soon.

[@9byte]

Lol glad I could help with some build motivation. and yeah for sure, hop into the discord anytime!

[@IlseMulAuthor]

Thanks for this wonderful video! I'm currently working on a plan for a build, even though I've only been playing the game for a week or so. The building options (and examples I saw here) are amazing! Thanks for the tips about the mods! There is one question I have: The area is, I assume, the area you can actually see. Is that correct?

[@9byte]

Much appreciated. Yes, you could kind of consider it the area you can see. Its really the area that the game is loading in. Which is for the most part the area you can see. The draw distance setting in particular affects how much the game is loading at once and so it can have a drastic affect on performance if you are willing to not see as far. Hope this helps!

[@IlseMulAuthor]

@@9byte Thanks! This most certainly helps!

[@9byte]

@@IlseMulAuthor no problem! If you need any more help with mods or anything feel free to join the Discord where I'm active most of the day everyday and there are a bunch of people that also play Valheim. discord.com/invite/UWGnJ4HvY6

[@IlseMulAuthor]

@@9byte thanks! I'll look into that tomorrow 😀 knowing myself, once I really start doing things I'll have a million questions 😁😁

[@IlseMulAuthor]

@ninebyte I just joined your server 😀

[@B0bbieshaky]

A good video, and I did not know about the Instances bit. Wish the game was more optimised as I'm not in creative and don't want to use mods, the console or dev commands. Turns out my megabuild is already on 20k instances and I've not even finished half of it :( So I'll be showing it off in screenshots instead of a video aha.

[@ahmedzaki7208]

wow ♥

[@itsAzoo]

Every time we've used build mods they ended up broken by updates & patches. More than a few times we've had whole buildings crumble. We play on our hosted server now, but it's happened in single player too. How do you avoid this with these huge (and AMAZING) builds?

[@longjohnlongdong4692]

Ship_construction… there are so many cool unused assets!!

[@iMourne]

Cheat Sledge hammer works well for clearing terrain. Btw great work!

[@Mike-eg8ck]

Create a level 500 cheat sledge 😂😅. I was messing with my friend and already thought he adjusted the hit points on all his build pieces and I took one swing and literally destroyed everything he placed. 😆

[@bonniehoward6765]

You can use spawn goblinking_totemholder (offering bowl) or use mod to make your structure a foundation piece just like you would a rock or the ground. Its small and easy to hide within most pieces.

[@derpycat6941]

They definitely need to optimize this game way more i have 3080 with rizen 9 and i drop to 60-70fps on 1440p with max out settings in my base, but when i run outside i get around 160-165fps.

[@mauraine3415]

When you need to think about these things its time for the devs to think how to improve the game!

[@Bud-Mods]

any links on how to use the infinity hammer, server dev and world edit, they only included the dll files no documentation

[@williamlyons2283]

Cheat sledge is great for clearing too and if you use nocost command it can be repaired

[@kenoid]

when i try to use the terrain rock, after i place it it just disappears after less than a minute. is there something im doing wrong?

[@9byte]

try the rock4 variants, they float

[@isjami21]

doesn't terraforming (eg changing the height of the ground) count as more instances?

[@9byte]

Nope. They fixed that about a year ago

[@son.nipales2594]

just a question, building using these mods, will my non-modded friends will be able to visit?

[@9byte]

Everything except heightmap mod they should be able to join and check out your builds just fine

[@Tao2059-]

Hello, does the rock that serves as your roof exist in the Mistland theme?

[@9byte]

yes there are rocks you could use from the mistlands for the same purpose

[@Tao2059-]

Thank you !@@9byte

[@Tao2059-]

Are you sure ? I can't found ID@@9byte

[@9byte]

@@Tao2059- The console will auto complete your responses. Try typing things to find them. Spawn rock, or Spawn mistlands would have both given you answers in the auto complete. Additionally if you use infinity hammer mod you can just use the second hammer to go and click rocks and things to the learn the item i.d's. cliff_mistlands1 cliff_mistlands1_frac cliff_mistlands1_creep cliff_mistlands1_creepfrac cliff_mistlands2 cliff_mistlands2_frac rock_mistlands1 rock_mistlands1_frac rock_mistlands2

[@Tao2059-]

@@9byte It's working ! Thank you :)

[@KnotsOfWonders]

Makes me wish Valheim was made in Unreal Engine 5 with Nanite tech, imagine the builds you could make with virtually 0 performance hit no matter how large it is.

[@Mr_S0lo]

Где можно посмотреть id всех структур?

[@armoredsheep2555]

Great video, While I love this for creative, I would love it if there was a video focused on using no console commands. I know in my builds any mass teraforming tanks frames as the game handles any terrain change as an instance. In big builds this is a huge problem for me.

[@9byte]

They patched the game handling terrains changes as instances about a year ago I think.

[@agent_ex]

The World Edit mod does not include the extra Hoe feature for "removing" ground vegetation like you claimed. Can you please look into what mod that is included with?

[@brianwiseman95]

Yeah, I'm with you on this I'm using the world eddit mod and I haven't seen thoes features, perhaps there is a command you need to enter in the console or somthing. I've looked and come up short.

[@9byte]

@@brianwiseman95 After some testing, it seems like its actually part of the Infinity Hammer mod.

[@-CriminalCupcake]

Fantastic.... for people who play in creative mode...

[@renlish]

Yup. And more power to you if playing in creative mode is not for you. :) We all enjoy our games differently.

[@Ecoxiss]

The word is "stutter" for low performance.

[@1kili2]

while this video seems very helpful it doesnt solve the issue im having sadly, ive got an area of my base that averages at about 19.5 fps with 14230 ish instances, however when i move to the other side of my base my fps increases to an average of 32 yet my instances shoot up to 15470 so something is causing lag that isnt the instances and i have no idea how to figure out what it is...

[@9byte]

I would recommend removing the forest/tress/bushes/rocks etc on the area outside of that side of the base. Every single one is an instance. You'll notice in many of my "megabuils" I do this to save a few thousand instances.

[@brettie7197]

Get a better pc

[@9byte]

😂😂

[@TheMetacognologist]

Honestly the fact this game has these crippling issues just shows it has a trash engine that is unfixable and its kind of pathetic when you think about it because it has such low quality graphics which would make you think it could handle more but it can't. Meanwhile lego fortnite, and enshrouded don't have these issues. Seems like they should go back to the drawing board, or have some method to turn your build into a single instance or something or render it the same as the rest of the environment.

[@1234567895182]

I think the main issue is that Valheim has it's structural integrity checks that it constantly has to go through for everything. I'm sure some things can be optimized, but I imagine it's actually more complex than Fortnite or enshrouded as those games have no build limits (to my knowledge)

[@Erebus404]

Yea, the graphics have nothing to do with it. There is a lot more that actually goes into it, it's more complex then that

[@Fennekku]

@@1234567895182 That sounds fucking awful LMAO no wonder the game runs so bad

[@o0TraceuR0o]

Play vanilla and no console to make such builds then i'll say damn gz, this is just blatant cheating

[@ASimpleInternetUser]

Have fun with your self-imposed limitations. All the tools have been provided for free, it's up to you to decide how much you use them. You can either build a gorgeous giant base or just be happy with what vanilla allows you. Mods exist for a reason, there's no purpose to try to gatekeep how people play their game.

[@o0TraceuR0o]

@@ASimpleInternetUser you must be from NA for thinking bigger=better

[@renlish]

Don't know if you've noticed, but this is not about playing the game. There's nothing to "cheat" here. You want to play vanilla and build that way? That's awesome - you go ahead and do that and more power to you. Those of us who enjoy building more than most other things in the game have different goals and wish to push the boundaries of what it allows. NEITHER IS MORE CORRECT. So just let people play the way they want to without stupid, shady comments. It's not the flex you think it is.

[@o0TraceuR0o]

@@renlish lemme ask you, when you boot up the game without fidgeting around with downloaded files from nexus and typing in launch commands on steam to allow console usage, what can you make? when you can make such builds with only those things i'll respect the hell out of it, other than that popping devcoms flying around placing everything down without any requirements is just cheating plain and simple. If you wanna make builds like that download an architectural cad software or something, this is a game and you should adhere to game rules.

[@AICaliceinchains]

@@o0TraceuR0o You’re opinion was valid until you started casting judgement on how other people appreciate the game. This reminds me of an ‘ironman’ gamemode in runescape where you have to do everything yourself with restrictions in totality to prevent you from cheesing. No help from others is allowed by any means. But the gamemode is a self imposed restriction, you do it for your own sake for your own enjoyment. That’s exactly what solo survival mode is. That’s why groups exists, that’s why dev commands exists, etc. There are multiple (if not infinite) ways to play, so maybe think about that before you go on about what the right/impressive way to play is.

[@F_the_G]

Oh f off 😂 I was up for some Sunday morning Valheim motivation