How to build High Speed RC car Fan (NTF / Game Changer / AB Racing / WFO / Thunderoos)

[@corsomike1]

About time a rc guy with common sense about cooling and fans .

[@HardcoreRC]

Got fed up with lots of people trying to charge silly money for these fans

[@daniilafanasyev1093]

Thanks a lot! I always wanted higher powered fans. But didn't want to take out a mortgage for one 😉 really appreciate the info!

[@HardcoreRC]

Indeed - i felt i needed to share this information, just seeing more and more places selling these for such extortionate prices was right

[@rcjunkie260]

I'll be making some for my rc trucks. Thank you for the info!!! Just started making my own ripple KILLER packs!!! Now fans!!! A tone of money being saved!!!!

[@HardcoreRC]

You are more than welcome. These should be a breeze compared to CAP Packs, i hate soldering 😂😂

[@rcjunkie260]

@@HardcoreRC soldering sucks. I refuse to spend 25-60 on packs. Most are well under 1000uf at 35 volts each capacitor been making 4 packs! I have a box of jr plugs,and 1/4 red/black nylon sleeve,shink tubing. Just need fans +! Soldering sucks even with rosin flux🤐

[@HardcoreRC]

Yep, i really hate soldering, also bought rosin flux to help, but still hate it 😂😂

[@timmytfpv7316]

Even though it cost me more i support GC he just has great svc great fans no hassle sometimes you have to support small business man 👍 in rc

[@HardcoreRC]

Nothing against these companies at all, this just gives others an option on how to build their own for far less 👍

[@rcguygarage]

Subscribed! Great work! I use GC fans as it's "one and done" and packaged well. Excellent write up!

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks. Just sharing an option, for people that want to spend the time to build 👍👍😂 if one and done is what people want thats ok as well 👍👍

[@gamechangerrc4633]

I love the fact people having options but I love the fact you give them options and show them how to install as well. That’s why RC GUY GARAGE and Earl Moorhead are great people in my mind. They will help you get the best out of your RCs. 😁😎

[@HardcoreRC]

Game Changer RC yep love both your channels 👍🏻

[@gamechangerrc4633]

Hardcore_RC i appreciate it great work and info

[@gucciskunkit]

Greavideo,, Gamechanger has some of the best customer service in the game and workn hard to give folks what their lookin for and saving many hard earned toys! Ntf nothin but a joke... nick and his fans! No videos yet showin they out perform the "other guys"

[@HardcoreRC]

UPDATE: Alza now do a new ESC Basher mount with support for the bottom of the fan, link here: shop.alza-racing.com/en/makerzone/182-universal-40mm-fan-mounting-base-basher.html UPDATE UPDATE: An alternative ESC mount is available in the USA from here: www.ebay.com/itm/124688350072?hash=item1d08013b78:g:TSYAAOSwyo9gfctr

[@servalac]

I can def see the need for that middle support now

[@HardcoreRC]

@@servalac Yes should really help when sending the RC's stupid high - a good update from Alza Racing

[@ahmadfaez7612]

@@HardcoreRC hey mate, just wondering what kind of heatsink are you using on the 4985 motor?

[@alfiecox6946]

Would this fit an arrma big rock

[@HardcoreRC]

@@alfiecox6946 The size of the fan fits, but the mount doesnt fit on the 3s EXC's so you would need to either change the esc or find another way of making it fit, 3d print a mount ?

[@choke666]

I HEARD FLYSKY NOBLE!!! 1 OF MY FAV RADIOS. IT DRIVES HALF MY FLEET LOL. AWESOME DIY VIDEO, BIG THANX!

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks - yep love the Noble - we have two of them, just got the new 8 channel receiver with voltage telemetry that i need to fit to one of the cars

[@choke666]

@@HardcoreRC NIIICE!

[@Lawzy]

Thank you for putting this together. It really was insightful and a great help.

[@HardcoreRC]

You're very welcome! Glad it was helpful

[@RCRoads]

Awesome fans. Great video my friend. Thanks for the stats on current draw and for showing us how they mount. 👍👍

[@HardcoreRC]

Your very welcome and thank you for watching 👍

[@3SonsRC]

Hey buddy, Great video, I made about 15 of these recently watching East Tactics video on this, great cheap alternative! Did you put any dampening between the mount to help with shock? And have these held up at all? I have heard of guys supporting the fans from underneath the center so the guts of the fan don't explode downward on impact....with a screw or somthing to support the center.

[@HardcoreRC]

Yes they are great alternative to the more expensive ready made ones. At first I was using some high density foam under the center to support the fan on the big landings, however then Alza came out with a bash mount that had the extra support built in. For the USA i asked a friend that had a CNC to design his version and make and sell them in the USA, since then it looks like others have also started making and selling them in ebay in the USA. Links should all be in the description for the bash mounts

[@paulbrett9964]

Finally finished making these fans after waiting on postage, took my EXB out today to test them and they keep the esc and motor at nice temperatures and all at a very good price, it cost me just over £50 to make the pair from what ive seen you cant buy one high powerd fan for that let alone two

[@HardcoreRC]

Nice 👍 glad they are working well for you and saved you a fair bit of money as well 👍

[@SpicyBurger]

This helped me quite a bit since my fan on my Hobbywing max 5 sh!+ the bed on me. I have a triple game changer fan setup that I bought a while back that doesn’t quite fit on the Hobbywing 800kv motor I purchased for my K8s build. I’m in the process of separating the three and modifying my fan shroud to fit the game changer fan I separated from the other two. Only reason I’m modifying the shroud is because I don’t have the sheet plastic to make an adapter. Hopefully it’ll hold up. Anyway, thanks for the video.

[@HardcoreRC]

Good luck with adapting the Game Changer fans, they are good fans, but if you can build your own it works out a lot cheaper. Thank you for watching and commenting 👍

[@SpicyBurger]

@@HardcoreRC Absolutely! I love your channel. You guys have come a long way pretty fast! You’ll always have my 👍.

[@luiml73]

Will these fans work on a Max 5 ESC and 2028 1100kc castle motor?

[@stevemdelacruz5602]

Thats awsome 50.00 for a small fan is extreme.this is good info thanks

[@HardcoreRC]

Your welcome - hope it helps

[@jmiles9836]

Great video ,I just bought a few from GCRC . And saw it looked pretty simple now I know it is. Will order and build my own.

[@HardcoreRC]

Yep very simple - can knock one up in under 10 minutes and a fraction of the cost 👍👍

[@jmiles9836]

Parts ordered

[@HardcoreRC]

@@jmiles9836 Great - if you do need any help let me know

[@blindj]

Thanks for the info. Will definitely share this video for other RC enthusiasts so they won't have to overpay. I understand people need to get paid for their time but $60 for something that cost less than $10 to make sounds more like price gouging to me than making profit.

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks and totally agree. $30 would be a fairer price, especially as they have no real overheads either, Hence why i felt i had to make the video and share

[@blindj]

@@HardcoreRC What is the connector called that I need to be able to plug this in to a 3s lipo balance port? Is it a jst-xh 2.5mm? I have tried to look it up but I have vision problems and I can't see clearly on any of the eBay pictures or Amazon pictures if it is the correct connector. I can solder and do the electrical portion with jeweler goggles however I have trouble seeing certain things because I am legally blind. Thank you.

[@HardcoreRC]

@@blindj These should do - its the JST-XH 2.5mm as you stated: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JST-XH-1s-2s-3s-4s-5s-6s-High-Performance-Lipo-Balance-Connectors-Plugs-UK-/361450598112

[@miles123rc3]

Cracking little video mate. Ordered the fans to build some for my Xmaxx and exb :) Thanks for the info

[@HardcoreRC]

No problem 👍 there is also another option for the xmaxx with stock motor fans kzbin.info/www/bejne/in3KooWHqc6dgck

[@miles123rc3]

@@HardcoreRC Happy Days thanks for that! I’ll watch that and sort the bits later

[@sofeygoree4263]

I have the same fans on my cars,ebay is a life saver,way cheaper 4 the same or even better effect 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@HardcoreRC]

Indeed - if happy to build yourself can save a ton of money

[@MuscleAKAOzzy]

Yep ! waiting on mount to come in from alza plus that fan from the link you put up Great content! Thanks for the link 😉👌

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks - just trying to help everyone who wants to build their own parts 👍👍

[@Daniel18X]

Thanks for adding us in the headline 😀 best regards Daniel founder of THUNDEROOS

[@HardcoreRC]

Our pleasure! 👍👍

[@BarstoneRC]

Awesome video man really nice job and those fans really push some serious air

[@HardcoreRC]

Indeed they do, can spend a few $ more and get ones that push even more air, but for bashing these do a great job even on 6 or 7.4 volts from the BEC

[@Megasty15]

I've been doing this all summer too. The closest fan here is a PFB0412EHN-B. 21.83CFM 7-13.2V. Nothing overheats anymore. I do run them on a separate lipo though. Running them off the car battery throws the balance off too much.

[@HardcoreRC]

Funny as i have some TFB0412EHN coming in to try out as well 😂😂 im happy running off the ESC as it pulls from both packs at same time and provides more than enough cooling for bashing.

[@oxfordrc1613]

Awesome video thanks, I was just thinking of buying some “branded” fans for my Infraction, will definitely look into doing my own now 👍🏻

[@HardcoreRC]

Your welcome - if you need any help let me know, Branded fans are good, just very expensive for what they really are, especially if you need to buy more than 1.

[@oxfordrc1613]

@@HardcoreRC yeah I was looking at three, two for the motor, looking at £160ish, probably can do it for £120 less now 👍🏻

[@ParcoUpchurch]

@@HardcoreRC Hi just ran across this post. I have a Max6 and HW 4985\1650kv motor for the Kraton 6S EXB. I already had Game Changer fans. I would like to have an option to run them without a 3S battery all the time. Are you saying the the Max6 has enough power to run 3-Game Changer fan setup, servo etc even if at a lower speed? Thx

[@HardcoreRC]

@@ParcoUpchurch It would depend on the fans spec, what amps they draw and what there minimum volts requirement is. The max6 has a BEC that can handle up to 25 amps and run at 7.4v (as long as your servo and receiver can also run at 7.4v) From the Hobbywing web page: The MAX6 has adopted the world’s first HV built-in BEC with an output current of up to 25Amp and a switchable output voltage of 6V-7.4V So as long as you are not pulling more than 20 amps you should be good

[@gamechangerrc4633]

Great video, thanks for mentioning my product. I wish i would’ve found these fans for sale I would’ve made them ready to play and sold them for a reasonable price custom colors and 3 to 5 day shipping. Great video though.

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks - to be fair you are the most reasonable price wise that i have seen, it was when i saw AB racing trying to sell for £100 I flipped my lid 😂😂😂

[@gamechangerrc4633]

@@HardcoreRC thank you sir, I just want to give the best product I can at the best price that most people can afford. I appreciate it that someone actually took the time to do what you done. That was a great way to inform the consumers.

[@HardcoreRC]

@@gamechangerrc4633 I just like to be real, plus you are the only one that has bothered to comment, so i think that shows that you care and want to provide the best you can. The others know this video exists but have decided to stay silent - cant think why 😂😂😂

[@gamechangerrc4633]

@@HardcoreRC 😂

[@gamechangerrc4633]

@@HardcoreRC thank you sir

[@drieskinet7100]

Hey man. One of the most usefull vid's I've seen. Thanks for this great tutorial and keep it up. Regards 👌😉

[@HardcoreRC]

Your more than welcome, I'm glad it was helpful 👍

[@GoFindAsafeSpace]

I just ordered everything to make one of these 😀 i live in the states, so those esc mounts are probably going to take a bit to get here. The cool thing is, I have enough to make a crap load of these fans now. I'll probably sell some on arrma forum for coast 😁👊 thanx for making this vid brother 👍

[@HardcoreRC]

Your welcome - hopefully the mounts don't take to long to get to you - sadly the only place that makes them as far as im aware - i know they are same mounts and covers NTF uses. 👍👍👍

[@joshherrman3201]

Where did you order your fan from Harlin David?

[@GoFindAsafeSpace]

@@joshherrman3201 I got them from ali express. They just showed up today actually. Quite happy with them 🙂👍

[@HardcoreRC]

@@joshherrman3201 Link to were i got the parts from is in the description www.aliexpress.com/item/4000314543410.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.47784c4dSNv7cX

[@joshherrman3201]

@@GoFindAsafeSpace your in the states you said? I've never used aliexpress

[@MetzRc84]

Awesome video. Lately I’ve been using quite a few Game Changer Fans. But this is definitely a budget friendly option! Thanks so much! (I’m also running a separate 3s lipo for my fans)

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks. I did contact the ebay seller of game changer to see what spec fan they used (RPM, Air flow etc) they didnt know, just that RPM was over 6,000

[@TheAmericanUhate]

Are you running a low voltage cutoff for your fan system with the separate battery? I've been searching for weeks on the internet for that setup

[@MetzRc84]

@@TheAmericanUhate i was using a low voltage tester with a alarm

[@davemitch729]

Looking great there I’m wondering if the esc mount would fit the Max8 I have 🤔 do you know if it will ? What thickness braided hose did you use on your build ? I see there’s various sizes

[@HardcoreRC]

Im not sure if it will fit a max 8. Would suggest you contact Alza and check - on their web site it states Max6 amd BLX185 - but always though the BLX185 was a Max8. I used 6mm braid as already had that size, think the 4mm would work as well

[@HardcoreRC]

I have checked and sadly the ESC mount doesn't fit the Max8 - sorry

[@carscoffee5263]

Good vid! I took a 12volt computer hard drive cooling fan that i run with a 3s lipo that i can screw to my car body's like the udr and super Baja Rey have.

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks - yeah these are basically 12v server fans 😂

[@carscoffee5263]

@@HardcoreRC I chose this computer fan bc it has 112mm diamater. It cools off all the electronics on my chassis's. Screw spending $100 on a fan lol I'll macgyver spare parts. Keep the mod vids coming sir 🔩✅

[@HardcoreRC]

@@carscoffee5263 Mcgyver i the best way with RC's 👍👍

[@markprizeman9018]

Hi a great video thanks, do you think these fans would work ok with the 150a spektrum esc as it only puts out 6v , also where did you get the pins and connectors from. Thanks again

[@HardcoreRC]

Yes it will work, just not run as fast, but still way more air than stock fans. Pins and connectors from here or Hobbyking: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-Sets-2-Pin-JST-Bec-Connector-Housing-And-Pins-UK-Seller/301509903897

[@logieuk]

Nice, about to do this as well for my cars. Im just unsure how to connect the fan to a 3s. Do you plug the fan directly into the battery or do you use the balance cable? (For the motor fan)

[@HardcoreRC]

I just use a Y slitter and run it off the ESC BEC from the receiver, for bashing the 7.4v is plenty to power the fan. Other option is to add a 3s lipo and run it off the balance lead for full 12v fan speed, but for bashing the 6v or 7.4v is plenty and far better than any stock fans

[@logieuk]

@@HardcoreRC Nice ty

[@blkboirc9834]

Thank you for the info I will order the parts and build my own one question what screws did you use to hold the fan in place on the motor mount and esc mount

[@HardcoreRC]

Your welcome. I used stainless steel M3x35mm button head screws (www.accu.co.uk/en/62-socket-button-screws#elasticsearch_id_feature_894997=894997_701&elasticsearch_id_feature_895020=895020_16&elasticsearch_id_feature_894999=894999_225&elasticsearch_id_feature_895030=895030_161&elasticsearch_id_feature_894990=894990_473&id_elasticsearch_category=62&orderby=ranking&orderway=asc), But if you wanted to add some bling you could use counter sunk and then use colors counter sunk washers - may need to make the screws 40,mm long if you do use the counter sunk and washers, im not 100% as not done it that way myself 👍

[@LiquidSSSnake]

Cost me $8 usd...Fan, grille, and screws. I drilled a new hole on the Arrma motor heat sink, so it mounts with two screws. Job done. I have a 3628 fan on the way that should bolt right on to a Arrma/Spektrum ESC with the 35mm fan. The 36mm fan was only $13. I'm going to run the fans on the ESC normally, then plug in a 12v BEC for speedruns. I'll probably be $25 in said and done.

[@HardcoreRC]

Thats great - funny how some "fan boys" 😂😂 have been telling me the cost to make you own is that same as buying already made, i know its way way cheaper to make your own, as you have also proved 👍👍

[@LiquidSSSnake]

@@HardcoreRC They must be teaching DC circuits in primary school over there 😆. I've noticed this years ago on the Ford Focus forums, I found that there was SO much more electrical DIY in the UK forums. People in the states were paying someone for the same product everyone in the UK seemed to be doing themselves for pennies. I've literally spent less building a radiator fan system to upgrade the mechanical fan in a Mustang (fan, relays, wires, switches, conduit...) Cheaper than some of the fans you can buy for these "toys"... doesn't add up. GC has the most comparative price to everything else in this hobby. I just got my first big RC this fall. I was trying to figure out where these fans were really called until you put this vid out.👍🏾

[@HardcoreRC]

@@LiquidSSSnake Not sure, just think most kids over here try to do things themselves as everything costs so much - what you pay in dollars we pay in pounds. If i think something is way over priced i will find a cheaper solution that is just as good if not better :) sound like you do the same 👍👍 Glad this video was able to help you and save you some pennies :)

[@vincevirina425]

i bought the fans on aliexpress thru the link u provided...sad to say those fans are so weak....i bought 4 of them.....is that the same fan on your video? the one u get thru the link u provided? thjanks

[@HardcoreRC]

Weak in what way ? air flow or taking hits ? which fans are they ? everyone else that has bought them hasn't had any issues and neither have i.

[@vincevirina425]

@@HardcoreRC air flow is weak....i think the fans they sent me are damaged...its working but very weak....i connected to a 3s lipo...

[@blackdawgrc8425]

Beautiful video sir 👏 😇💯👍👍👍👍👍you are truly right

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks you - im glad you liked it 👍👍

[@infinitedecay]

Thanks for the video! Can you tell me what heat sink you're using on the motor?

[@HardcoreRC]

I use this one www.modelsport.co.uk/hobbywing-ezrun-heat-sink-with-fan-for-4465-motors/rc-car-products/392681 have to make it smaller to fit 42mm motors and stretch to fit the 49 mm motors

[@RCvapor]

Was going to do this but the shipping from alzer to the U.K. for the mount is crazy, nearly €30 😖

[@HardcoreRC]

Wow have they put their shipping cots up that much - that really sucks

[@robertkotevski9649]

Great video mate, would the fan and mounts , work and fit the max5

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks, i dont think the mounts fit the max5 - you could try asking the mount maker to see if they do or if he can make a Max5 version: [e-mail]

[@GoFindAsafeSpace]

Hello. I just got all my stuff to make one of these. Csn I plug the fan directly into the esc where the old fan was plugged into or does it need to be plugged into the reciever? Thanks for all the help 🙂👊

[@HardcoreRC]

Yes you can plug into the ESC where the old fan went in. Your welcome 👍👍

[@MrCarrera74]

Fantastic, thanks David. Which connectors would I need to connect into the max 6 ESC or receiver ? JR or JST ?

[@HardcoreRC]

Im using the JST and that connect straight in: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-Sets-2-Pin-JST-Bec-Connector-Housing-And-Pins-UK-Seller/301509903897?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

[@MrCarrera74]

Hardcore_RC thanks David, fan ordered. £2.57 shipped using first time buyer voucher 👍🏽

[@HardcoreRC]

@@MrCarrera74 LOL - thats a crazy price, very nice 😂😂 must look on Alibaba and see how much they are in bulk on there

[@MrCarrera74]

Hardcore_RC everything ordered less the mount for a grand total of £10.40 😂

[@HardcoreRC]

@@MrCarrera74 Nice, hope they work out as good for you as they have me 👍👍👍

[@mesodan]

Many thanks for this. Is 6mm braid ok?

[@HardcoreRC]

Yes i used 6mm braid - 4mm will probably work as well, but i already had the 6mm and it worked fine

[@ianrichardson4796]

This is brilliant content! Will defo give this a go 👍🏻

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks - deffo give it a go 👍👍

[@chrisjames509]

I don't suppose anywhere else to buy these fans other than Aliexpress. I ordered these in September and never recieved them. I am loathed to order again from them out of principle but cant find a fan that is as powerful for sale anywhere else.

[@HardcoreRC]

Sorry to hear that you didnt receive your fans, hope you got your money back, there are a few sellers of these on Aliexpress so could try one of the others ? other than that can only suggest you Google the model number DBTB0428B2G and see if anyone sells then locally, Ebay maybe

[@klappars]

Is the Alza mount just for ESC’s though, I would need a 40mm motor mount

[@HardcoreRC]

They also do a motor mount as well

[@GyuHobbyRC]

I enjoyed a great video let's be friends 😁😁😎😎🤩🤩 우리 친구 해요~~~~^^

[@HardcoreRC]

We are friends 👍

[@Soilhalo77]

How did you mount fan to motor sink? You don’t need the same Esc mount do you? Maybe a daft question!😉

[@HardcoreRC]

Fan just screws into the fins of the heat sink

[@Soilhalo77]

@@HardcoreRC Thanks got it !

[@rccrawlervenezuela]

Fantastic, thanks David

[@HardcoreRC]

Very welcome 👍👍

[@ghost61]

thanks for the video you just saves me some $$$

[@HardcoreRC]

You are more than welcome, no need to spend silly money on those made fans when can build yourself 👍

[@AdrenalineAshRC]

Awesome video bro I’ve been doing the same but with jst connectors for 3s lipo awesome step by step . Now people will see how cheap it really cost to build one . Ntf won’t like this video lol . 😎👊

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks - yep a small 1,000mah 3s lipo works great. I just ran off the ESC as still gave more than enough airflow for bashing. Im already getting flak from NTF fan boys on face book. Im just sharing an option for people, if people want to have someone else make the fan for them and charge a very high price then that is up to them 😂👍.

[@paulclancy2404]

Yep me too , who's nft, another fan company oh thats one aussie rc promoted ? Yes expensive for rich ppl

[@HardcoreRC]

@@paulclancy2404 AB Racing was the AussieRC playground one £100 for a dual fan 😲😲😲😲 NTF are a USA one that sells via Facebook NTF Racing

[@paulclancy2404]

@@HardcoreRC oh thanks

[@gucciskunkit]

Anyone can own an ntf fan for $30 us, if your ok paying then thats all you! 💯💯💯

[@andrewwhiting5526]

Great informative video, keep up the good work 👍 😃

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks, glad you liked it and found it helpful 👍

[@51im]

In the fan description, it says pwm. Or pulse width modulation. Does this mean it could be wired so it's controlled by you transmitter. To either adjust the speed or just switched on and off

[@HardcoreRC]

Very good question, it does have 4 wires, so presume if you attached a PWM module it could work, the receiver and ESC only have 3 wire connectors, so would need the PWM module, although unless you just wanted to cut down the noise it would be a lot of work

[@bigpythons1983]

I have an 8s arrma infraction, woukd these be enough for that do you think ?

[@HardcoreRC]

Yes should be more than enough, its the same fans etc that you get when you pay over $50 from the places that sell them made up

[@burn1gotbeats]

Definitely motivational

[@HardcoreRC]

Indeed - saves loads of money as well 👍👍

[@saltylocal6917]

Do you recall what diameter braid you used to cover the wiring? 1/4? 1/8”?

[@HardcoreRC]

It was 6mm braid, there should be a link to what i used in the description of the video

[@rcsendandblast1579]

My fan has 3 wires Red / blue / black Newbie question do I simply remove the middle blue wire and wire black and red to a 12 volt Lipo. I really don’t want to mess it up 😂👊😀 Any help is much appreciated 👍

[@HardcoreRC]

Is it the same fans i linked to ? its likely to be the red and black wire yes, would suggest testing with a lower voltage first just to be sure, don't go straight in with 12v until you know its red and black

[@rcsendandblast1579]

@@HardcoreRC I soldered Ic5 cause that’s all I have and hooked it up to a 3 s lipo Bolted it to the body not the motor and turned it on wow I just guessed red and black were the corresponding leads left the blue and went for it. I’m so glad I did wow it is in my indestructible body right over the motor. 👊😀

[@illhairacing3543]

Would I be able to wire a XH-2.54mm 3S to JST Male Plug Balance Charger Cable Wire for Lipo Battery. To the fan?

[@HardcoreRC]

I dont see why not, you can fit any connector you want really, i just used these so i can connect to receiver or fan port on the ESC. I know lots of people that run direct from a separate lipo through the balance port, or even from the big car lipos

[@illhairacing3543]

@@HardcoreRC oh okay was just wondering thanks love the videos keep up the good work💯💯🙏

[@Lunarpollo5622]

3:09 Can it be ran on 5.5v? The website says the voltage range is 7- 13v Will 5.5v be enough to get it spinning? My BEC only outputs 5.5v

[@HardcoreRC]

What BEC are you using ? 5.5volts seems low on a modern BEC, normally expect to see 6v minimum on the BED, i run these on 6v and whilst not as powers as they would be on 12v they are way way way more powerful that the stock fans and stronger as well

[@Lunarpollo5622]

@@HardcoreRC it's a flycolor 150a esc it only puts out 5.5v at 5A. However I managed to find a datasheet that confirms that the fan in the video will not start on it's own below 7v. So I'm going to choose another fan, I'm going with the delta FFB0412SHN instead because that one has an operating range of 4.5 - 13.8v with an rpm of 13000 @max. Thanks for reply tho

[@HardcoreRC]

@@Lunarpollo5622 Your welcome - i can confirm that fan i list does work under 7v as i run it on 6v. But the Detla fan will be good as they are good fans 👍

[@fbiagent3399]

thank you man.. I will order A few of those for my typhon

[@HardcoreRC]

Your welcome 👍

[@fbiagent3399]

@@HardcoreRC hey would you know how much mah they pull per hour?? you think A 1100mah 2s will last few runs using 2 fans??... I can easily wire and solder it up that's my specialty but just curious of how much power they pull

[@HardcoreRC]

@@fbiagent3399 Sticker on the side states 1amp so 2 fans would be two amps and a 1,100mah pack would last around 30 mins

[@fbiagent3399]

@@HardcoreRC Sheesh okay.. Ig I'll need go hook my 4500mah 2s cells to power everything lol

[@HardcoreRC]

@@fbiagent3399 If its for bashing i just run it off the ESC's BEC via a spare port on the receiver, still pushes plenty of air even if the BEC is set to 6v

[@luvadealme]

The fan link doesn't work anymore, any alternatives?

[@oxfordrc1613]

Got my fans today but the M3 bolts are really tight to screw in, it split the bottom of the fan a little, did you found this too? Maybe I could carefully drill the holes a little??

[@HardcoreRC]

If the holes are a bit tight just drill it out a bit, i had to do that on some Delta fans i got, they may have changed the design slightly, im still waiting on my new ESC mounts to arrive before i build more with new batch of fans

[@oxfordrc1613]

@@HardcoreRC ok cool thanks

[@nohokiki]

Do you have a link to make dual fan set ups on the motor that can attach to a heat sink? I have a max6 esc so I’ll build a few of the 40mm fans but are there 30mm dual set ups? I have the yea racing duals and heat sink at the moment on my motor

[@HardcoreRC]

Im not aware of any 30mm fans of this size and speed. You can do a 40mm daul fan as Alza make those fan covers, then take your pick of which heat sink you want: www.aliexpress.com/af/40mm-motor-heat-sink.html?d=y&origin=n&SearchText=40mm+motor+heat+sink&catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20201104122525 if you look in NTF facebook page they use this type for their dual 40mm fan set up: www.aliexpress.com/item/2024042617.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.70c77e9bUGXer3&algo_pvid=0ecef225-a7e5-48a4-9c33-611880fb66d4&algo_expid=0ecef225-a7e5-48a4-9c33-611880fb66d4-16&btsid=2100bb4716045215232166946e49d0&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_ they just have the fans over hanging each side. Although if yor just bashing you wont need two 40mm high speed fans

[@dexterbeattie7884]

Great video. thank you

[@HardcoreRC]

Glad you liked it!

[@harisbennington4058]

Very good video man, thank you

[@HardcoreRC]

Your welcome, hope it was helpful for you 👍

[@harisbennington4058]

@@HardcoreRC I’m defo going to do this

[@DadsRCGarage]

Thanks for sharing this!

[@HardcoreRC]

Your welcome - sharing is caring 👍👍👍

[@BEASTMODERC]

Running it through your ESC, does it affect your run time now?

[@HardcoreRC]

These are only 1amp fans so really dont effect run time at all, the fans are rated at 12v so you could run off a separate 3s lipo to get the max airflow etc, but then have the added weight of the lipo

[@jspeedrc]

👍

[@HardcoreRC]

👍👍

[@michaelmontano2111]

Where can I get a fan like that for my kraten 6s BLX

[@HardcoreRC]

All the parts are listed in the description 👍👍

[@decorahomeimprovements3705]

You are the best!!!!!!!

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks - not sure im the best but i try 😂😂

[@kturbo504]

How would these hold up with bashing in a x-maxx

[@HardcoreRC]

They take a proper bashing in our Karton EXB with 50+ foot jumps, have just fitted one in my Xmaxx on a Max6 as the stock fan died, as the Xmaxx takes less hard ladings that a Kraton EXB it should hold up very well

[@stuarttomlinson802]

Good stuff ! cheers always great content !

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it 👍

[@Soilhalo77]

What motor and heat sink are you using? I’m struggling to find a heat sink for my 1650 Hobbywing Any advice or if you know of one that may fit would be great ? Cheers

[@HardcoreRC]

Im using Hobbywing 1650kv motor, The Hobbywing C4 heatsink fits, just need to stretch it out a bit www.google.com/search?q=hobbywing+c4&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB746GB746&oq=hobbywing+c4&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i59.2666j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[@Soilhalo77]

@@HardcoreRC I found it before I saw your reply, but thank you for getting back to me, Super cool of you! I came across a thread I was following on the Arrma forum and spotted the link on there. Ive got one coming today.

[@HardcoreRC]

@@Soilhalo77 Where are you located ? if in the USA i know someone that is currently designing mounts to sell, so that will drop the price and quicker shipping, hopefully

[@Soilhalo77]

@@HardcoreRC No up in Northumberland. Im sorted now anyway, but thank you!

[@HardcoreRC]

@@Soilhalo77 Ok that's good 👍

[@paulbrett9964]

Was about to spend a fortune on some high speed fans then i come across this video which is perfect for my wallet😂, just wanted to check with you that the esc fan is plugged back into the esc where the stock fan was and the motor fan is plugged into the reciever

[@HardcoreRC]

Yes this should save you a few bucks 👍 correct ESC fan can be plugged into the ESC, other fna plugged into receiver, or you can plug both into the receiver, i started using a Y splitter straight into receiver for the fans, then if i need to change any setting on the ESC i don't have to worry about unplugging the fan first. One thing to bear in mind is that running off the ESC BEC you are not getting full power on the fans, if your BEC, Servo and Receiver and run at 7.4v put it on that and will get better fan speed as well, but even on the standard 6v BEC the airflow is way more than stock and more than enough for general bashing.

[@paulbrett9964]

Thats great, ive orderd all the parts now just have to wsit for them to turn up. I looked at the thunderoo fans and to get a set up of two fansit was going to cost around £120 doing it this way all the parts come in at just over £50,happy days is what comes to mind😀

[@HardcoreRC]

@@paulbrett9964 Indeed, Thunderoos are good for people that dont want to build their own, but once you start buying more fans the price soon adds up. Bigfoot 3d has also started 3d printing the ESC mounts which should hold up to bashing and makes cheaper option to the Alza mount

[@none-qq9lg]

Would you still recommend this fan or is there something better?

[@HardcoreRC]

For bashing then yes i would still recommend this fan, For speed running you can get better ones that are faster, this is plenty fast and moves enough air for bashing plus its pretty tough as well

[@none-qq9lg]

@@HardcoreRC can you pls recommend one for speed runs on grass large open area

[@HardcoreRC]

@@none-qq9lg If its for a bashing car on large grass areas than this fan would be fine, just run it off a sperate 3s lipo. The speed runs i was thinking about would be limitlesses doing 150mph+

[@none-qq9lg]

@@HardcoreRC was going to upgrade pinion on the DR8 to 18t or 22t hence putting the fan on the motor. What do you think?

[@HardcoreRC]

@@none-qq9lg we have 16t on the DR8 and doesnt get hot at all, would think 18 should be ok as well, 22t likley be pushing it but this fan would deffo help, it does shift a lot of air

[@mark-1rc502]

Do these Draw a lot from the Battery ?

[@HardcoreRC]

Not a lot no, they are rated at 1 amp

[@penacatalin7630]

Wher we can buy a fan like this... you can put a link please?

[@HardcoreRC]

Links are all in the description 👍

[@Ltoxic13148]

Where do u can't the motor fan mounts from u forgot to put that

[@HardcoreRC]

Any motor heat sink will do, hence i didnt put that, but the one i use is the Hobbywing C4 one

[@nichlaslomholt66]

What screws did you use i have the same fans

[@HardcoreRC]

Use M3x35 button head screws, depends where you are located to where you would get them. Could also use M3x35 cap head, would just depend on the look you wanted etc

[@nichlaslomholt66]

@@HardcoreRC ok thanks

[@saqib8033]

Where did you get heatmount for the motor

[@HardcoreRC]

Its a Hobby wing C4 heat sink - just have to either squeeze it smaller or stretch it bigger depending on the motor size try searching for part number HW86080130

[@saqib8033]

@@HardcoreRC ok

[@jgotdawheel]

Is there a better fan out now or do you have anymore options?

[@HardcoreRC]

If its for bashing then i dont think there is a better fan, this one has the best bottom support and moves way more air than stock, plenty of air for bashing. For speed running and needing more airflow then yes there are better fans

[@jgotdawheel]

I would appreciate it I got ripped off I feel like when I could have put together my own

[@jgotdawheel]

@@HardcoreRC yes I drag race and speed run could you point me in the rite direction as far as the best fan with out buy a ntf fan

[@HardcoreRC]

@@jgotdawheel Best thing to do is look through Aliepxress for 40mm fans, but something like this should work, its 20,000rpm www.aliexpress.com/item/32614645478.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.193e4c94jUkzIc&algo_pvid=7127c23d-8cca-4417-ab9c-0d21032c0c5b&algo_expid=7127c23d-8cca-4417-ab9c-0d21032c0c5b-2&btsid=2100bde116172893274937487ebb1a&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

[@jgotdawheel]

Thank you bro !

[@RCCaveStudios]

why isnt the blue and yellow wired needed?

[@HardcoreRC]

That's only needed if you have a Pulse width modulation controller which then controls the speed of the fan, these fans are really for computer servers where the fan speed is controlled based on the server temp

[@blkboirc9834]

Do you know how much the ESC mount and fan cover is

[@HardcoreRC]

Depends what country you are in - the link for it is in the description

[@benwalton2097]

Great vid hardcore rc nice one 👍🏻

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks - glad you liked 👍👍

[@Lexusondubs25]

hello would you be willing to sell 2 of these pre built ??

[@HardcoreRC]

Sorry unfortunately i don't make these to sell, hwoever there are plenty of others that do: NTF (facebook), Game Changer (ebay), Thunderoos (Facebook)

[@arlesc2012]

What’s size wire braid did you get?

[@HardcoreRC]

6mm either from Ebay or from Hobbyking hobbyking.com/en_us/wire-mesh-guard-black-6mm-5m.html?affiliate_code=FASSYMTTSPUEGLJ&_asc=4002296140

[@shanemcclain8562]

What motor are u running in the EXB and is it the stock motor mount

[@HardcoreRC]

Running Hobbywing Max 4985 1650kv motor on stock motor mount, using 19 tooth pinion on 50 tooth spur - clocked on grass at 57mph and no heat issues - have a recent video on it

[@shanemcclain8562]

@@HardcoreRC yea I seen it just didn't know if it was stock motor mount

[@shanemcclain8562]

How big can u go on the 8s on stock mount

[@shanemcclain8562]

Talking about ur outcast

[@HardcoreRC]

@@shanemcclain8562 Yes its stcok mount, just fits, is about the max size on stock mount before you need to get the 50 size mount

[@east_ldnrc1378]

Amazing vid👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks 👍

[@Vincentkassabian]

what connector is on the fan?

[@HardcoreRC]

I just put a JR connector on it, but you can put any connector you want really

[@yardman9325]

Where do you get the screws?

[@HardcoreRC]

If in the UK i get all my screws etc from www.accu.co.uk/en/

[@Todd_G_FPV]

How are these fans holding up?

[@HardcoreRC]

Fans a re holding up great with the new bash designed ESC mount with the center support, haven't broken one even sending over 50ft high and even landing from that height onto concrete - check out some of our high jump vids to see what abuse they are taking

[@Todd_G_FPV]

@@HardcoreRC just what I wanted to hear lol I was just looking for fan covers/mounts and those fans u posted a link to. Got everything in the cart except the mounts and covers lol got a link? I'm in the 🇺🇸

[@HardcoreRC]

@@Todd_G_FPV You can get the ESC Mounts from here in the USA - this is a great guy and designed his own mount: www.ebay.com/itm/124688350072?hash=item1d08013b78:g:TSYAAOSwyo9gfctr

[@Todd_G_FPV]

@@HardcoreRC thank u!

[@The8429]

Are you running them off a separate battery?

[@HardcoreRC]

Im not as i can run my ESC on 7.4 volts (Even 6 volts give plenty of air flow) and that still gives more than enough airflow for bashing. If you want max airflow for speed running then run it off a 3s Lipo as max power is at 12v

[@Ledge.Limited.Collectibles]

Yeah I’ve been making my own fans like these for a couple years now, they work great! All they are are computer cooling fans really, I always just cut all the not needed wires right down to inside the fan as you know only 2 are needed, there’s 3 ways to power these fans, you spoke of 2 can you guess the 3rd way bud

[@HardcoreRC]

@@Ledge.Limited.Collectibles Yep just server fans, repurposed for RC use. Love to know the 3rd way to power them

[@adamdavis5961]

Wel..... The third involves a wall wart, and the cord DOES make it tough.

[@joshchatwin8569]

How do you change the bec to 7.4

[@HardcoreRC]

Depends on the ESC, hobbywing ones then easiest way is with the program card that comes with a max8 or you can buy separately

[@r_dark_rromao6684]

They are waterproof?

[@HardcoreRC]

I have had no issues with them getting wet

[@twoteccs2twoteccs287]

Wait am I missing something didn’t make a fan just upgraded one you got offline

[@HardcoreRC]

Was you expecting a fan build from the ground up ? that's what factories are for, this video is so that people can build their own RC fans rather than paying $50 per fan from others

[@twoteccs2twoteccs287]

@@HardcoreRC u didn’t build anything u upgraded a fan I was thinking it’s was building

[@HardcoreRC]

@@twoteccs2twoteccs287 depends what you defined as building, you cant just add that fan to the car without actually changing the plug and fitting the different mount and guard so that is building. Building is defined as the action or trade of constructing something. i took various different parts and constructed the fan to fit the car

[@paulclancy2404]

I like to support co , when I can and quality expensive cool maybe for one rc , but owning several have make your own at some point , ive been making my own out of computer parts i guess motums Best part is if they break or I decide go for full wet or mud run I didnt pay for em , I get gc one bc good ppl community to support but it be for infraction or something, everyone gets mad realize what products cost individual but nothing wrong ppl trying make a living either

[@paulclancy2404]

These days rc so good theres ppl enjoy wo being mechanical, so understanding to sell put together. Haha maybe not way you bash , I like to run higher gearing

[@paulclancy2404]

Strap piece dry ice to the top fan 😆

[@HardcoreRC]

Yes i like to support local companies and ones that help the whole hobby, hence why i use ALZA racing for the ESC mount and fan covers - very good products and a fair price. Each to their own and i know lots of people have happily been paying $60+ for fans - me personally just think that is way over priced - $25 - $30 would be much fairer, especially when you can buy the fans bulk for like $2, the Heatsinks bulk are like $3

[@jamesrobinson4950]

What mm size is that wire braid?

[@HardcoreRC]

I used 6mm - can buy from Hobbyking or Ebay

[@jamesrobinson4950]

@@HardcoreRC thnx, gonna build 3 fans , keep the good content coming 👍

[@HardcoreRC]

@@jamesrobinson4950 3 fans will do the trick 👍👍 will keep trying to give good content - thanks 👍

[@bdanyluk]

1 amp each wow.....i use an 80mm computer fan with 0.6amp and it pumps out 60 CFM.

[@HardcoreRC]

These are repurposed server fans.

[@bdanyluk]

nice...mine are from old computers at work..i have 8 free ones...so i am using them all until they break

[@joshchatwin8569]

Just brought a fan for 1pence has it was my first order lol

[@HardcoreRC]

Wow cant so no to a 1p fan 👍👍

[@EastTactics]

Hardcore, you have a great video here showing people how to get these high powered fans for cheaper, there's no denying that. However, I would disagree with your logic of saving money doing it DIY, vs simply buying it from say... NTF. Here's why.. I actually calculate it will cost 76$ for someone to DIY this project. (asuming they have none of the items already in stock) Verses $60 from NTF. As you clearly point out in your video there's a lot more to it than just snagging the fan alone. You mention you need the fan cover, and the fan mount, as well as the braided wire cover. However, what you neglect to point out is the total price you spent for EVERYTHING in your in your workup, nor did you say anything about Shipping costs. For someone who is promoting “piecing this project together from scratch”, don’t you think shipping price is relevant since you most likely must get everything from multiple venders? You also neglected to bring up the pricing (and shipping) for the following items 4 x M3 (35mm) Screws The JR connectors Heat shrink (optional) stylized m3 washers that NTF provides (mostly for look) Its also important to note, that if you are doing this project DIY, then typically you have to buy your miscellaneous parts in bulk, or in a kit which costs more. Is there a reason you do not reference anywhere in your video the actual out of pocket costs of the above items with everything combined including shipping? Lastly… the fan you purchased from Alli Express is actually a Different fan than NTF uses. The construction and quality are not the same. If you look up the Fan NTF uses (on Alli Express) Which is FFB0412HN, then you find that the average price is around $10 (15 w/shipping) for a single fan. So Quality is important here. So lets tally everything for this DIY project, and keep in mind the right fan, shipping, as well as the concept of labor put in, and for many of these items you can’t just buy 1 (or a few), you have to buy a kit, or bulk. Items you mention: Fan - (Correct Fan) = $10 ($15 w/shipping) Fan Cover and Mount = $16 ($23 w/shipping) Wire Braid (bulk item) = $5 ($7 w/Shipping) Items you didn’t mention: Heat shrink tubes (bulk item/kit) = $10 JR Connectors (bulk item/kit) = $10 M3 (35mm) Screws (bulk item/kit = $11 Wow… that really looking more like $76 dollars now! You could argue that the fan you picked while cheaper is just as good, so I’ll shave off $5 You could argue that some of these items, the typical person would already have on hand, so I’ll shave off another $15 Your sill looking at $50 dollars, but now your stuck waiting on multipole venders to ship you material… which could take much much longer. Lastly… doing it DIY means your wiring up everything yourself which takes a bit of extra effort. Now back to NTF… is he worth it now? I would say absolutely… he charges 60 for everything put together for you, and shipping from one location. Not to mention, he adds flare to his fans as well. Two Carbon fiber, and two anodized sleeves for the corners of his fans… as well as aluminum counter sunk washer (for the top of his M3 screws) that add nice flare to the unit. All for $60. Compared to the DIY project with nothing “already in stock” for $76. For anyone who's gotten this far and wants to find the Misc items for purchase, click here amzn.to/36ApqOA

[@HardcoreRC]

To be honest i got bored once you started listing stupid prices, Dunno where you shop. Screws: 12p each Connectors: £2 for 20 free shipping Braid £2 for 5 meters and free shipping. Heat shrink: £3 for a box of 300 multi size. Any person in RC would likely have most of these already NTF Fan is only £4.78 with free shipping on Aliepxress: www.aliexpress.com/item/32344867706.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.71ec2620k8kO6r&algo_pvid=899dbb51-45bc-4677-8ae4-4fbbb060e277&algo_expid=899dbb51-45bc-4677-8ae4-4fbbb060e277-1&btsid=0b0a187b16019245793706569ecf21&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_ 2 ESC mount and 4 Fan covers totals £56 shipped, so £14 per fan, less if just fan cover and the £5 heat sink So i can build them for £18.78 each and if you want to include the sundry parts then a total of £20.53 and i still have loads of braid, connectors and heat shrink left. I have been bashing the snot out of mine and not broken one, yet NTF failed on your first bash 😂😂 if one does go its £4.78 to change the fan At $35 NTF fans would likely be worth it, but not at their current price, why do you think there are so many making and selling these fans now ? cause the mark up is crazy

[@EastTactics]

@@HardcoreRC Most people prefer to do their shopping online. So tell me why are you neglecting to even bring up the shipping costs for the cover and the mount. That’s a pretty big deal to just forget about that. Considering for just those two items there’s almost an additional 40% cost. Also, tell me where you can get screws, a single pack of four, for that price and better yet why don’t you do your subscribers a favor (Who will be doing the shopping online!)and make an actual list of of “EVERYTHING” including shipping. I’m sure you can find some better prices. But ...still make the list. Your video could be a lot more helpful if it included everything. Since you’ve completed the DIY project, you and I both know that NTF IS not really that far off from what you spent. Or at least what others WILL SPEND if they don’t have a bunch of those items already in their inventory. Still you also have to consider that your audience is not in the UK, Shipping cost are going to vary. Most people might be spending considerably more depending on where they live. Still...You should update your description to show links for all the misc part. for example, even in your recent comment above, you re-link the URL for the Fan... but don't leave any clickable links for the Misc parts, such as the screws, the connectors and the heat sink materials. Im not saying cheaper places don't exist... but link them. (help us out) Honestly though...Your Video neglects to point out shipping AT ALL. Not to mention the hassle of shipping from a bunch of venders. who's ship dates might be all over the place, or the hassles of building the fans, cutting the connectors, and refitting them... to me and you thats a breeze. But some people don't mind paying a little extra for a fully put together product and some added flare in the look of thier set up. As far as my NTF fan breaking... drop a skate park video on your next run. Thats where I test. Long story short, to many people spending an extra 20 to save the hassle of having to buy in bulk and put the project together themselves is worth it. Im not debating that you can save some money doing this project DIY, in fact I made that clear in my video that you can order it from eBay... but there's connivence to going to one source (NTF).

[@paulbrett9964]

East tactics like hardcore said the prices your coming up with are just crazy, ive just bought all of the stuff required to build two of these fans and including shipping the total cost has come in at £56 and like i said thats for two fans and even if i went for the other fan that you said is better it would bring my total cost to around £66-70 but thst is still for two fan set ups. So im pretty sute my maths to tells me the diy version is still way cheaper

[@paulclancy2404]

English my freind English, haha you guys actually do, its us that speak jibirish

[@HardcoreRC]

Jibirish as a good language 😂😂

[@Soilhalo77]

I think the prices went up

[@HardcoreRC]

Which prices went up ?

[@Soilhalo77]

@@HardcoreRC Sorry the price of the mount was the same but the shipping is 10 now too so its basically £20 to get that mount. Ive took your Advice and gone and ordered everything. Thanks

[@iwantblue491]

@@Soilhalo77 @HardcoreRC seems like Alza has now decided he only wants to sell in bulk with postage costs like that LOL, great price for anyone picking up a 10 pack but not for singles..€25 wtf?

[@paulclancy2404]

How much 6lbs ? In cash 💸

[@HardcoreRC]

Will depend on the currency and if paper of coins 😂😂