Replace stormsurge with lich bane, rest of the video is fine though Lich bane is getting nerfed soon in patch 14.3, so we'll see after that lol
@0211deidara11 ай бұрын
Is it really that bad after the nerf?
@Cocho_Kat11 ай бұрын
@@0211deidara it's not that bad but all these items just read DO DAMAGE so we pick the one with big number lol If number smaller why pick?
@0211deidara11 ай бұрын
I mean, the effect is that bad? Cause that explosion add some dmg tho, and is cheap. Btw i just tried your build and is great c:@@Cocho_Kat
@Cocho_Kat11 ай бұрын
@@0211deidara thanks and no it's not bad. But it's like picking $9 when you could have picked $10 lol
@flo8104 Жыл бұрын
Riot Games: Hello ADC mains, I know we're taking away your ability to be mobile by removing Galeforce but hey, you get a new On-Hit item that gives you armor shred and defencive stats! Katarina: is for me? 👉🏻👈🏻
@savato3527 Жыл бұрын
You can even add as a 4th item (AD BUILD) the new Hexplate something (sorry I play in Spanish) the new item that gives you 55ad 20%as 300hp and gives u 35%AS and 15%MS when u ult gives you way more damage when u ult than botr (unless u need its passive). and u even become tankier
@b.chen_ Жыл бұрын
Been waiting this video all day long, thanks!
@kerimakbulut8261 Жыл бұрын
LET'S GO COCHO! been waiting for this man
@yobroh0 Жыл бұрын
Lovely vid, u cut all the fat and got to the point, with great information. Much appreciated!
@Cocho_Kat Жыл бұрын
I see a lot of Nash > Stormsurge > Shadowflame. Just the same items just swapped around a bit. I think this makes some sense with electro. But I still like my build orders better with Dark Harvest or Conqueror for sure.
@JasemQ8 Жыл бұрын
Great video, earns a new viewer :D
@leight42011 ай бұрын
thankff for this great build
@derrickhuang4579 Жыл бұрын
Went to test around myself with as kat as I enjoy as kat way more than ap, and im glad it’s viable again. Plus after throwing out your entire combo, you still do a shitton of damage with autos while with ap you’re kinda just waiting for cooldowns
@MangaGamified Жыл бұрын
I think win rate items will plateau to on-hit / semi-on-hit builds, due to AH nerfs. It already felt ages as katarina in S13 I think AH was fine last season except for some outliers like Zed, Lux and whatnot.
@prxject6686 Жыл бұрын
How do I decide when to go AD or AP?
@CanisoGaming10 ай бұрын
When the enemy team is going multi tanks, u're better off going ad (u'd be impactful since early game, unlike with AP kata) Also vs Akali I always think it's better to go ad straight away as having an ad starter item gives u the advantage you NEED over her in early game. Also honestly now been playing ad kata for a few weeks again & she seriously has early game skirmish strengths that AP kata lacks, a lot of times I get jumped 2v1 & if AP that's most of the time either a flash away or death, but with ad kata I find myself winning the 2v1 95% of the time 🤷. Oh and like I said against tanks it's great to start ad so u can even roam top side (to contest grubs for example, if enemy top tank happens to be there u are literally able to shred the mf solo) Late game ad kata does not fall behind at all, unlike what I've been told before I tested it out myself 🤷, when u got the right items she is just as strong as AP
@locoenrique07 Жыл бұрын
How I will miss my AD katarina as a divine cutter and ruined king, she healed me a lot and many times I could go 1v5 thanks to how tank she was
@Toseina667 Жыл бұрын
I was a bit lost with the new items but Cocho the savior is always around
@matijabaucal472 Жыл бұрын
this video makes me wanna test builds and play the game, i need to study for my semester! screw you pal!
@kevinkestler8020 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man you are saving me a lot of Time
@iDominic360 Жыл бұрын
As someone trying to learn both Ap and ad Kat, TY! You’ve got a new sub👍
@CanisoGaming Жыл бұрын
Finally someone that understands why i always go dark harvest with these 2 items. It literally fuckin screams SYNERGY yet people keep pinging the rune 😂🤷
@MangaGamified Жыл бұрын
I feel like everything will plateau with item win rate sites, if you're not curious of item interactions.
@tapioca88 Жыл бұрын
In my personal testing, I saw that if you have enough money for it when you base, its lich bane first item since it does the most dmg (obv because it costs the most). Also the MS you get from it is insane. Lianhuadao (CN Nr.1 Kat) does the same for now. He goes either stormsurge or lich bane first item depending on how much gold he has when he recalls for first item.
@blessedboy1993 Жыл бұрын
hey can you make a video talking about lane phase and how to play it well? also great video keep it up. loved edging to this one!
@haiduynguyen6625 Жыл бұрын
fantastic video like the last one
@Valenja18 Жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO MANN I LOVE YA
@kevdrag Жыл бұрын
Omg, I needed this so much. YOU ARE THE FUCKING GOAT
@cartoonstoons-q1r7 ай бұрын
I miss your videos, hope you're doing well
@HeartOfGon Жыл бұрын
Bless your heart sir
@arabatzis23 Жыл бұрын
KATA IS BACK BABY
@nestycb6702 Жыл бұрын
Nice vid! What about Hextech Gunblade and Cryptbloom?
@pcp35 ай бұрын
do you have a lisp? im not making fun of it im jsut asking
@marcelinehvh Жыл бұрын
Rage blade actually still allows crits, it only has base onhit now
@yGKeKe Жыл бұрын
So, I actually did the Stormsurge Shadowflame opener myself, but with conq page. Do you think the other builds are flat out better when going conq or? Although I guess your first conq build is the same three items in a different order lol. I guess the real question is...do you think those three items build order is rune dependent, or enemy team comp dependent?
@Cocho_Kat Жыл бұрын
Those three items are pretty much the same thing for overall damage. just depends how you are doing damage. If you don't land much, then flat burst like elec and stormsurge will do the most. If you land a good combo with a bunch of autos, then conq and nash will do more damage. they both apply to more than one person. Those just make more sense to me since the damage on items are so similar. But it's not like stormsuge with conq is bad. Just a little bit suboptimal imo
@deltaruneenjoyer Жыл бұрын
thanks man!!!!
@Spectre_StreamАй бұрын
Are these items still good on Kata, Do Titanic Hydra is still good although we do not buy any other HP items for it to deal more damage
@Cocho_KatАй бұрын
@@Spectre_Stream Nyro's build with bork > terminus > Titanic is one of the only good ad builds that I like atm. You still get some hp from overgrowth and 2x scaling hp runes in that build.
@Spectre_StreamАй бұрын
@Cocho_Kat Thanks, i will try that, after this three will there be any onhit item, or will it be deaths dance or something
@Cocho_KatАй бұрын
@@Spectre_Stream jaksho, wits, or kraken
@nightingale8178 Жыл бұрын
Guinsoo stacks work with kraken this season. Which means Kraken Guinsoo is the strongest 2item spike on ad Kata rn. Tho yes Titanic gives defences. So for me it would be Kraken, Guinsoo, Titanic, Terminus.
@MangaGamified Жыл бұрын
Kraken, Guinsoo, Titanic, Terminus, Bork/IE, ShadowFlame same build as Kog, doesnt make sense but blue crit is asmr
@KloppyLP Жыл бұрын
So after first day of New season and being d2 right now I have to say I don't build nashors anymore one thing that annoid me the most of ap items over the last seasons were the build paths and nashors was the nemesis there with recurve bow. Ik in some matchup u start dblade and bow after with conq for the juicy aas but it was never my style and I hated it. Now with stormsurge first I have all options after going armor (zhonias), Mr (banshies), anti tank (liandrys) or pure DMG (Shadowflame). that is the utility I was looking for and riot gave it to me. Unless stormsurge gets nerfed to the ground I think Im gonna skip nashors. Tell me your thoughts guys!
@larsstrigan1231 Жыл бұрын
nashors feels so bad man. First it got random AH, now less ap?
@andrewpaul1207 Жыл бұрын
i always trust your build ideas ty :) crfyptblossom might be cool in aram. idk. malignance has a chunk of ap too. hmm.
@roiboosuryoutube1574 Жыл бұрын
so, the best build is ad or ap for now?
@RussianSpy46325 ай бұрын
I miss you cocho, come back ;c
@k4taraa Жыл бұрын
can you explain how nashors is better than stormsurge rush?
@Cocho_Kat Жыл бұрын
I don't think it is a necessarily a better rush. but stormsurge is single target, the AoE hitting people isn't super reliable. Nashor procs on everyone and enhances your autos to help stack conq and do more dps Just different items. depends on playstyle and preference
@artistwithtail Жыл бұрын
TY I'll use it on good purpose
@mathijswy Жыл бұрын
Is there no spot for Lichbane anywhere with shadowflame crits? Just suboptimal?
@Cocho_Kat Жыл бұрын
If they are already low and instantly die to shadow and lich bane from E+dagger, that's the highest burst. lich is more expensive and applies to one person. But the damage is usually pretty similar to nash/shadow/stormsurge.
@MangaGamified Жыл бұрын
It's up to you and your squad, it's less predictable w/out a squad, like an Amumu ult then you follow up with your ult, just for the remaining 3 to just watch, it happens. So you may lean to hit-&-run non-wombo-combo tactics. Lichbane is not bad, I call it E build if I'm in the mood maximizing single E burst, and another miximizing Ult damage while still have useful auto-attacks after(on-hit build, but not necessarily too bursty E)
@ulquiorra635 Жыл бұрын
Ok i wanna know when shud use Ad build and when to use Conquer build with rift maker?
@Cocho_Kat Жыл бұрын
Liandry is good vs opponents who build health Kraken + Titanic is generally good when you want AD damage but it's hard to get away with building AD in lane since your wave clear takes a hit.
@ewar777 Жыл бұрын
why is nashor tooth the first pick on conqueror squishy Cocho?
@Cocho_Kat Жыл бұрын
Nash gives you more dps and applies to more than one person. The damage is pretty similar to stormsurge but nash is more in line with what conqueror wants to do.
@shyper_ Жыл бұрын
So you dont build sorc shoes like ever?
@lethalshredder843 Жыл бұрын
Try kraken and shadowflame. Kraken has ap ratios
@tigas7705 Жыл бұрын
how do you choose to use eletrucute over conquerer againts squishy teams?
@haku_3713 Жыл бұрын
electrocute for squishies and conq for sustain
@Nova-xm1me Жыл бұрын
with the ad builds, when do you buy boots?
@Nova-xm1me Жыл бұрын
also with the full ad build are you still to go Sorc boots?
@Nova-xm1me Жыл бұрын
also also, what do you do for the last item?
@richard53286 Жыл бұрын
Defensive boots
@SwainGod6857 ай бұрын
Bro is league of memories still working?
@dark_choir8 ай бұрын
thats my goat cocho
@finsta8103 Жыл бұрын
what items to start on these builds ?
@finsta8103 Жыл бұрын
like doran’s blade orrr
@larsstrigan1231 Жыл бұрын
Go dorans blade or Darf seal
@mek9849 Жыл бұрын
THE GOAT
@Earedel85 Жыл бұрын
So... AD Kat is back??
@otox77869 ай бұрын
where new video
@metanol6151 Жыл бұрын
does guinsoo still remove your crit rate? the item description doesn't say it
@yGKeKe Жыл бұрын
No, it doesn't. The stats on Guinsoo are all it has, it doesn't scale anymore.
@metanol6151 Жыл бұрын
@@yGKeKe I got confused because he said that without guinsoo you can crit, but now you can CRIT even with guinsoo
@cgva1013 Жыл бұрын
i think guinsoo is so broken bc now they reworked the thing that works with kraken and katarina ultimate@@metanol6151
@dragonboll727410 ай бұрын
yoooo i did the same frikn testing that is so nice
@nypreax Жыл бұрын
Rushing stormsurge makes no sense to me. You want to play for your passive no? Like get resets as quickly as possible. How does sturmsurge help you with that more than shadowflame would? I just dont get why you would sac offensive stats and a passive designed to help you kill your opponent to then get go your next reset for an item that has less offensive stats and only goes off after a certain time period. To me nashors shadowflame -> situational seems to make a lot more sense.
@larsstrigan1231 Жыл бұрын
prob bc its cheaper? idk
@kientangvinh7272 Жыл бұрын
Is tank katarina still a thing in this S14 ???
@MangaGamified Жыл бұрын
If u want to survive an instant longer
@xKyriakoZ Жыл бұрын
hopefully we can finally have some fun in this miserable game
@pedroyoshikuni6702 Жыл бұрын
i fucking love you
@mpg7115 Жыл бұрын
I made a lobotomy AD kat build that is better than most of these
@katstinct601 Жыл бұрын
I hate stormsurge. It was a failure for me
@itschillyy Жыл бұрын
cochuusy
@kex8589 Жыл бұрын
☹
@Kevin-ngo10 ай бұрын
you should go to speech therapy bro no offence
@saki1333 Жыл бұрын
Any tank build ideas for evil individuals such as myself ? XD
@Cocho_Kat Жыл бұрын
Grasp > Bami (can skip) > Heartsteel > Riftmaker > bami cinder item/liandry/titanic > repeat this is my guess since riftmaker has the passive that gives AP based on health, and titanic lost the passive to give AD based on health.