How to Change Transmission Fluid in ZF 8HP transmission BMW, Audi, Volkswagen, Dodge, BMW

#BMW #ZF8HP #transmission
How to Change Transmission Fluid in ZF 8HP transmission BMW F30 and Audi Volkswagen Dodge 8HP45 8HP50 8HP70
This video demonstration is made on BMW F30 328i xDrive
Cars with ZF 8HP45 transmission which can follow this procedure to change transmission fluid: BMW 1 Series F20, BMW 2 Series M235i F22, BMW 3 Series F30, BMW 5 Series F10 F11, BMW 7 Series F01 F02, BMW X3 F25, BMW X4 F26, BMW X5 35i E70, BMW X5 F15, BMW X6 F16, Chrysler 300 V6, Chrysler 300 C, Dodge Charger V6, Dodge Challenger V6, Dodge Durango V6 (2014-2017), RAM 1500 V6 (2013-2019 ), Jaguar XE, Lancia Thema V6, Volkswagen Amarok
In this video I show step-by-step procedure to change transmission fluid and filter in BMW 320i, BMW 328i, BMW 330i, BMW 335i, BMW X3 and X5, BMW 5 series transmission fluid and filter change
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[@NewRoad]

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[@akautosport]

Awesome info! Thank you.

[@amfareed30]

The best i had seen so far...straight forward...thanks for sharing

[@NewRoad]

Glad it was helpful!

[@rattuautoworks7547]

Great video! Helps a lot of people since they use those transmissions in a lot of different cars 👍

[@NewRoad]

Thanks. Yea, I was surprised to learn that ZF transmission is used in many different cars

[@7s29]

@@NewRoad Definitely I have one on my 2015 Chrysler 300 SRT.

[@svenhansen9618]

Awesome video, loved the addition of visuals for torque specs, etc. Thank you.

[@NewRoad]

Very welcome!

[@TexasTheRadioGuy]

I truly thank you for your time & effort to make this video!

[@NewRoad]

Glad it was helpful!

[@andrelinka3187]

Moi aussi je vous remercie sincèrement pour cette vidéo, je pense avoir la même BVA ZF 8HP sur mon AUDI SQ5 326 HP, donc première vidange à 100000km?

[@davegriffin7264]

Great vid thanks for your time

[@helmedim]

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[@rabazar]

Very thorough 👍

[@user-qo6qw7ri5q]

ZF recommands only, but is not obliging anyone to do this procdure. In the Maintenance Manual of Jeep Grand cherokee is written that the oil has NOT to be changed during the entire life of the car. After asking at the dealership in Hamburg, how many kilometers or years is that LIFE TIME OF THE CAR, nobody could answer to me. So do not trust any car manufacturer, just respect the rules and recommendations of the OEM of the equipment and you can save a lot of money. ZF recommends only to change the furst oil at 80-120.000 km, which is ca. 4,5 liter out of 8,8 in the complete system. After that it has to be refreshed every 50-60.000 km.No flushes or exchanges of the entire oil in the system are required. Once your car has a bypass valve, you need to perform the after the first fill the temp increasing to 75 degrees Celsius and than to wait to cool it down to 35-50, than you can perform the second part with the refill of the rest and moving the different gears. All this I did already alone on my Jeep Grand Cherokee 2016 WK2 and after 10.000 km I am going to perform it again.

[@ronelsay8237]

It is very helpful guys thanks for your sharing

[@NewRoad]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Mudmowerdiesel]

Awesome video

[@NewRoad]

Thank you!

[@numitor3468]

Nice video ! Ttx

[@andze2356]

Great video 👌

[@NewRoad]

Thanks 👍

[@rider3844]

Really nice video

[@NewRoad]

Thank you

[@farnerol]

Great video. This is the same or very similar part I just used to change my 2017Alfa Romeo Giulia TI Sport Mopar # 68332462AA. Very hard to find directions or videos on service and this was it. I was nervous about running my car on jacks and refilling, but was able to get almost 5 quarts back in, which is roughly the amount that came out when I drained. My car has 80K on it and the fluid that came out was maybe a shade or two darker than the new fluid I put in. There were no error codes after service and car continues to un great. I am posting for other Giulia owners to hopefully find and use.

[@NewRoad]

Awesome! Thank you for your feedback!

[@user-qo6qw7ri5q]

this additional procedure has to be done only if your car has a bypass valve. It makes sence to increase the temp to 75 degrees Celsius and than you should wait untill it falls down to 35-50 degrees. I did already this on my Jeep Grand Cherokee WK2. ZF recommands after the 1 refresh to perfor this procdure every 50-60.000 km

[@mcplutt]

ATF3+ covers both ZF Lifeguard 8 and 9. I didn't know that.

[@zz6761]

Is Audi q7 2018 3.0T the same transmission? How about the filters?Thx

[@renatoc.1235]

Thank you

[@NewRoad]

You're welcome

[@ureasmith3049]

Nice tutorial, thanks. I have to do it in my Ram truck this summer.

[@NewRoad]

Good luck with the project!

[@Jimmerca]

Make sure you turn off your traction control on your Dodge ram. All four wheels should be off the ground when running the transmission through its Gears and making sure you do not go over the specified transmission temperature

[@Zulu321]

Great video, I'm doing my zf8 tomorrow. Quick question, does the new pan need the pre-installed drain plug tightened to the required torque, or it is already done?

[@NewRoad]

I'm not sure if manufacturer does it, I would double-check after installation to make sure

[@cconstandis]

Nice video, pretty much every piece of info found on the internet in one place! Can I ask though, open question: 1. when is it best to drain the gearbox oil, @working temperature which I see it's at ~90.C or @cold temp, or other and why? 2. if changing when oil is higher than >75.C, this means that the thermostat will be open and also this could drain the cooler and lines, or not necessarily? I do not know exaclty were is this located and if normally oil will flow out only by gravitational means.. Does any body though about these and have a potential answer? 10x

[@7s29]

50°C

[@cconstandis]

@@7s29 draining at 50, would you have a reason behind this? Thanks

[@chriskim7642]

4nm plus 45 degree, what does this equal to in ft pound?

[@RM-xx2nd]

I can’t seem to really find any information after doing a ton of research. Do you know if the Dodge Challenger 2019 SXT uses a 845RE or an 8HP50 transmission?

[@NewRoad]

Sorry, I am not sure either

[@paulpeterson783]

Thanks for the video it was very helpful. I have one question though after completing the oil change my speedometer is off by like 20 mph. Do you have any idea why that would be? I have a 2016 bmw 340ix with a zf 8 speed. Do I need to reset something? Thanks in advance for any help.

[@NewRoad]

You don't need to reset anything. Just wondering if something is wrong with speedometer sensor...

[@chrisc6609]

Did you fix this? What was the cause?

[@AntLive29]

What happen with your issue?

[@rowanb7430]

Great video! What is the consensus on a vehicle with ~110k miles which has not had the 8HP serviced? Service or leave it alone?

[@NewRoad]

I don't believe there is - some would say don't do it, and some would say go for it if you plan to keep it long time.

[@kd2833]

factory of the gearbox say CHANGE

[@PrincetonTV]

Is the transmission filter in the oil tray? how do we get all the oil out of the transmission and cooling area beyond the cooling bypass? Thank you. Best explanation so far.

[@NewRoad]

The only way to get all oil out is by flushing - but I have not found procedure for flushing from manufacturer (ZF) of this transmission. This video is based on manufacturer recommended procedure - so I would just follow what they recommend. If really worry about keeping transmission oil cleaner - I would just recommend to change it a it sooner than recommended. BTW, BMW does not even recommend to change it - even though ZF recommends every 80,000-120,000km

[@mikelittwinprincetontv117]

I went the ZF site aftermarket.zf.com/go/en/aftermarket-portal/passenger-cars-and-lcv/catalogs/pdf-catalogs/ and got a lot of information. Turns out there is a BMW filter kit ($283.92) , A, Dodge kit ($195.00). The same kit is used on several, BMWs, Alpinas, Chryslers, Dodges, Ivecos, Jaguars, Land Rovers, Lancias, Maseratis nd Rolls-Royces. What a Pedigree !!! The refill kit contains 7 liters, the dealer just told me the dry fill is 10 liters. So it seems there are 3 liters that stay behind. The best price for a liter of Tran Fluid is 42.00,So if the oil is really very filthy I might consider a second drain and refill after so many months (cost $154.00).

[@NewRoad]

@@mikelittwinprincetontv117 I think you can buy cheaper the whole kit from fcpeuro.com.

[@mikelittwinprincetontv117]

@@NewRoad I had to get a ZF Catalog to find my Dodge had "ZF Chrysler / Dodge Gear Box 8HP45 and 8HP45 KIT NO.1087.298.364 or 1087.298.365 " and try to cross-reference against to find the BMW equitant. Ended up cheapest on Ebay for ZF Factory parts and fluid. Thank again . LOOK here mediaservices.zf.com/Redirect.do?urlId=qpycZR1CFuAixyAW8uf%2Bns9d0dthEl5u%2BmLP6F5flEw%3D Current Catalogue aftermarket.zf.com/go/en/aftermarket-portal/passenger-cars-and-lcv/ look Here www.zf.com/products/en/cars/products_29289.html And Here www.zf.com/products/en/cars/products_46338.html

[@NewRoad]

@@mikelittwinprincetontv117 Thank you for sharing

[@KennethBostonian]

Hello I own a 08 BMW X5 premium sport 4.8i. I purchased with 96,536. It now has 102,000 miles. The transmission now bangs from a slow start 1 into 2. Had the dealer check the transmission for $ 163.63 and was reported no leaks, no codes, and fluid at proper level. They said the fluid had a very bad burnt smell, and I should just replace the transmission at $ 8, 958.44. Really lol. First of all thank you for the video, I said to them let’s do the basics first lol. If I need a transmission after the basic, it will be a used one.

[@FrenchValleyAirport]

Sometimes that could be normal, normally on a cold start it will be a rougher shifter from 1-2. Secondly. sometimes you will get a rough 1-2 shift if you are driving slow speeds, and let off the gas AS the car was about to upshift.

[@NewRoad]

Mine does it too - and I am surprised because it is 8-speed trans. My GM 4-speed automatic transmission goes from 1 to 3rd smoother

[@KennethBostonian]

NewRoad Adventures, hello there. I’m going to wait till the weather is warm here in Boston. I’ll put the x5 up on its wheels and drain it, replace all sleeves, and rebuild the Valve body. I’ll do the basics first before I purchase a transmission. Auto zone has 3 year warranty on there ZF’s 🤔 lol.

[@user-qo6qw7ri5q]

Of course they will ask you for your money, for what are they working for_😂. A friend of mine did not change the fluid, as the manual says and at 175.000 km the frictions on the 4th, 5th and 6th gear were gone. Now the repair would cost him ca. 6.000 USD. Guess who is ging to pay that money....😮

[@charlestaylor6898]

Do the wheels need to rotate as you change through the gears? If not just hold on foot brake?

[@NewRoad]

No, don't have to rotate - just hold brake firm

[@fields1]

One note... i believe you are supposed to remove and install the transmission pan bolts in the same specific pattern, not just going one by one around the pan. ZF mentions something about removing bolts in a cross pattern.

[@NewRoad]

It is not as important as when installing new, and I don't think anybody would completely remove bolts just going around because pan would tilt and get oil all over. First pass is to loosen them and then remove in cross pattern - not necessarily exactly as my photo show when installing new.

[@fields1]

@@NewRoad I thought the reason they wanted it to be removed in a similar manner to installation is just so the metal doesn’t get warped. I just remember seeing something specifically saying “remove in a cross pattern” on the ZF transmission repair guide.

[@mcplutt]

@@fields1 The metal is a lot stronger than the plastic pan.

[@opprometheus]

Are you saying that the replacement pan has an integral fluid filter build in?

[@Lui8111]

Yes it does and some pans come with the ability to just change out the filter on the next oil change for the Tran. (Remember zf recommends to change it every 50kmi) a lot of aftermarket oil pans don’t have a good rubber seal on 3:36 so a harbor freight kit seal should have a better fit

[@user-hy9iw2hi1x]

Sorry for the question. What can happen if fill plug is not loosen before draining oil?

[@NewRoad]

If you drain the fluid - but will not be able to undo fill plug... then you cannot drive to mechanical shop to help you out to unscrew the plug.

[@stefansk8]

Do you keep the brakes pressed or do you spin the wheels when doing the gear shifts?

[@kjhnsn7296]

Brake stays pressed.

[@seyhankupeli]

Great informative video. ZF procedure has a step to overfill the transmission with 0.5lt of fluid, driving the car until the transmission temp gets to 75 degrees to open up the valve for cooling. The procedure after that is what you have done with maintaining the revs at 2000rpm and shifting through gears etc... I haven’t seen that step carried out, is that not necessary?

[@NewRoad]

I followed all steps from ZF procedure. I think I showed links at the end of the video

[@user-qo6qw7ri5q]

this additional procedure has to be done only if your car has a bypass valve. It makes sence to increase the temp to 75 degrees Celsius and than you should wait untill it falls down to 35-50 degrees. I did already this on my Jeep Grand Cherokee WK2. ZF recommands after the 1 refresh to perfor this procdure every 50-60.000 km.

[@mcplutt]

@@user-qo6qw7ri5q Hoc can one know if there is a bypass valve? I assume my X5 E70 30d has the same ZF8HP-70 as your WK2.

[@user-qo6qw7ri5q]

@@mcplutt ,just ask your dealer about your model. If you have a separate cooler for the transmission oil,you have for sure a bypass valve.

[@ldenorio]

i am going to guess this is the same procedure for the alfa romeo stelvio with the 8hp50

[@NewRoad]

If it has the same transmission - then should be the same process

[@erickcouvrette1385]

What about the transmission fluid that goes thru the cooler? It is still in the pipes no? How to flush that fluid? Unless the fluid temperature exceed the bypass valve and flush when you add up fluid??? Just asking.

[@NewRoad]

The procedure in this video is from trans manufacturer ZF, so I guess they don't expect all of it out. I just follow their procedure since they know the best. I know that there are couple litters of old fluid left, but if they don't recommend to flush it - so I won't worry about it.

[@erickcouvrette1385]

@@NewRoad so old trany oil stuck in the coolant system contaminates new oil. Doesn't seem logical from ZF. With conventional automatic trany, it is really simple to flush all the oil in the trany and the oil going thru the coolant system. I'm still puzzled with the ZF method. Unless there is a way to force the bypass valve to open and force all the oil to get flushed.

[@NewRoad]

@@erickcouvrette1385 I understand and agree with your point, but decided to follow ZF procedure. Mind you, BMW does not even recommend to change trans oil - they say it is lifetime... lol

[@kdr-ql7pz]

Maybe if you empty all the fluid conventionally when you perform the fill procedure at the specified temperature range, it doesn't fill the cooler lines. Not sure. But something to think about...

[@xblademachine]

How many litres did you need to fill up? I done mine and only used like 4,5 litres.. kit came with 7 litres...

[@NewRoad]

I used about 5 liters. You can't get all of it out. Btw, the procedure in this video is from trans manufacturer ZF, so I guess they don't expect all of it out.

[@blasphemi3104]

How many quarts did you end up putting in? Thank you

[@NewRoad]

To be honest I'm not sure exactly how many went in since it was spilling every time I was filling. I bought 7 and used about 6.

[@heavy-jeep5039]

new jeep wrangler JL(2018-now) is same transmission ?

[@NewRoad]

Wiki says it is, but call your local dealer to confirm with your vin

[@Nik-hm5um]

Hi, How i Can understand when the oil has reached the level? When it stops dripping?

[@NewRoad]

That is correct, but make sure you monitor oil temp like mentioned in video

[@TheCls63]

What about the oil from the torque converter and the oil from the cooling pipes? You didnt drain them.

[@NewRoad]

I followed ZF procedure - they don't have it. I guess if you completely change - then you can drive a bit longer than ZF recommend.

[@npet6842]

The only way to safely empty those components is to remove the return pipe from the oil cooler at the trans union , and then pump into the trans refill hole with a sealed filling attachment . You pump ( between 8 and 9 litres ) into the trans until clean oil appears out of the cooler return . Of course the system will be totally full now , so a litre or so may then spill from the filler even though you now start the engine , with cooler re-attached and filler hole open once the engine starts up . The procedure in this video is good for about 4.6 litre . If you open the cooler return pipe after draining the pan , about another 1.5 litre can slowly drain an air will be sucked into the cooler pipe as the oil moves under gravity , but it's hit and miss on this one . I got 6 litre out with his latter method , which is quite enough to be honest . I had 100,000km of easy highway driving on a X5 and the oil was only tea coloured , but otherwise fine looking . System pulls a little better with more noticeable hold on hill decent in M3 and M4 gears . Auto geardown on idle up to intersections is a better hold . Didn't pull the old pan apart , but the flow rate would be better with the new filter , which does help with funtionality . Not much debris on the magnets . The boxes are well constructed and have few problems in normal use . You can of course do a double flush and drain off the new mix after a week of mixing around in the system and refill with another 4.6 or so if you don't want to remove cooler pipe union . You'll use 9 litres in all , but ditch 4.6/9th of your original new oil from the previous week . There are several approaches to what to do ...............

[@FrenchValleyAirport]

So after replacing the pan, you fill it till it starts spilling out, then run it through all the gears, and then once it hits the desired temperature, fill it again till it starts spilling out a second time? Is that correct?

[@NewRoad]

Yes, but please watch the video completely -it is in line with ZF procedure

[@kdr-ql7pz]

What about the part where the wheels must rotate until 2nd gear is achieved? This comes from FCA not ZF.

[@teebo5298]

Second fill once filled let it spill to it comes to a drizzle and them reboot. Always good to check again the next day . I took to a shop that “knew how to do it “ said they donenmany times . (I didn’t have time myself working 7days a week). Long story short it kept jerking befor coming to a stop and had a jerk downshifting Freon 3-2 . Took it back and they said oh sorry it’ was low . I only hope no damage was done or at least not to much

[@bravo09010901]

So I've done the 1st fill and the car's within the temp range, but I can only shift into reverse, 1st, and 2nd. I can't shift to 3rd - 8th gear. Any help would be awesome!

[@NewRoad]

When you pull stick to shift - hold it so it doesn't go back, then let go and pull right away and hold it for next one for 10 seconds

[@bravo09010901]

@@NewRoad I tried that initially, but I had it hooked up to ISTA+ and even though it displays the next gear, it doesn't actually shift into subsequent gears (it stayed in 2nd).

[@NewRoad]

@@bravo09010901 I didn't use ISTA+ but was able to shift. Did you do in manual mode?

[@bravo09010901]

@NewRoad Adventures If I shift and hold to the rear, it displays M3, M4, etc. (in manual), but in ISTA it reflects that it's still in 2nd. ISTA also reflects the current gear accurately when I shift from park to 1st, 2nd, and reverse, but stays at 2nd when doing the shift and hold-to-the-rear combo. I'm not sure if there's something wrong with my car or if it's just the way it is... I emailed the dealership, so I'll post here what they reply with. Hopefully it's nothing.

[@bravo09010901]

Ok, I figured it out. Sorry for the confusion. If you are not using ISTA+ or ISTA-D, then follow ZF's procedure (same as yours, FCP Euro's, etc.). For a BMW and if you're using ISTA+/ISTA-D, then there's a procedure for it: Once connected, Vehicle Management > Service Functions > Power Train > Transmission Control Unit 8HPTU > Oil Balancing, and follow procedure. (I'm using ISTA+ v.4.22.2)

[@carlo5652]

when i finally check the oil level what gear must be used?

[@NewRoad]

Leave it in P

[@cornholio4510]

Why do oil temp needs to be 40c? What difference does it make if i use some let say 25c room temp oil at sec refill?

[@NewRoad]

This is what the procedure from manufacturer ZF says. They want to make sure you have proper level of fluid. If temp is lower - you might end-up with more fluid in trans, if you temp is higher when you are adding fluid - you might end-up with below what is required

[@cornholio4510]

@@NewRoad thank you good diy bdw.

[@FrenchValleyAirport]

@@cornholio4510 The fluid expands with temperature.

[@LatvjuAvs]

You have to change pan when changing fluid?

[@NewRoad]

Yes, you will need new pan - since it has integrated filter in it.

[@NewRoad]

Yes, because it has integrated (built-in) filter

[@warR24]

Do you know what's the oil capacity for a Dodge Charger? Would it be the same 6 qts?

[@NewRoad]

I would say it is the same since it is the same transmission. I doubt you will need all 6 qts, but it is good to have just in case.

[@warR24]

@@NewRoad thanks, I have been experiencing some weird progressive charging noise when I accelerate abruptly either from O or while in highway. I will give maintenance to the transmission to discard any lack of transmission fluid or filter being clogged.

[@NewRoad]

@@warR24 Agree, if you can do it yourself - it is not that expensive and you eliminate one possible cause.

[@warR24]

@@NewRoad awesome man, thanks for your attention

[@i0001w]

What if i didn't change the pan & filter .. I want to drain and refill only ?

[@NewRoad]

I would highly recommend to change it - these are not expensive comparing to the work that you do. Check rockauto.com and FCP Euro sites for good price

[@renatoc.1235]

how many oil have you used? thank you

[@NewRoad]

I used 6 quarts

[@renatoc.1235]

@@NewRoad thank you

[@tonydesanto3238]

What about the fluid in the cooler?

[@NewRoad]

I followed ZF procedure for transmissions in description. If you want to completely flush, I guess you will have to repeat procedure after driving for a bit.

[@tonydesanto3238]

Or pull one of the lines and connect a tube and crank the engine a bit to pump out the old fluid?

[@NewRoad]

@@tonydesanto3238 I wouldn't stick with manufacturer procedure :-). I would rather change it more frequently, perhaps every 75,000-80,000 thousand

[@ademc8872]

How much fluid did it take back (final fill)?

[@kd2833]

if u buy 5 liters ur good, 4 + going in

[@ademc8872]

@@kd2833 yeah bought the official ZF kit with 7 liters of oil. My trans ended up taking 5,5 liters with car running and going through the gears with 10s within each gear. Trans is 8HP45 on a F30 335i

[@asmr-everything630]

Why transmission pan to be replaced?

[@NewRoad]

I got from rockauto.com

[@asmr-everything630]

@@NewRoad why can’t you just drain and refill, why change transmission pan? It wasnt leaking or anything

[@NewRoad]

there is transmission fluid filter, and it is good idea to change is as well

[@Shane-zx4ps]

They are a brilliant gearbox, but I’ve watched many a video and they never get all the oil out of them for some reason

[@NewRoad]

I think it doesn't really matter as long as we change it according to ZF recommended interval

[@Shane-zx4ps]

@@NewRoad. So what percentage of the oil do you actually get out the gearbox?….

[@mcplutt]

@@Shane-zx4ps 60-70% maybe.

[@ArcolaBridge]

You should flush 15 liters of fluid through the transmission performing the ZF instructions between each flushing.

[@dopiaza2006]

Do you have a link to the ZF instructions?

[@mcplutt]

This isn't a flushing.

[@kd2833]

not lifetime 56k KM first fill then after 80K km every time

[@JelleVH]

I made a big mess using that same hand pump 😂😂

[@NewRoad]

Shit happens sometime, right 😃

[@DT-et8hs]

The oil must be green

[@NewRoad]

I've got this oil from BMW dealership

[@mcplutt]

@@NewRoad I didn't know ATF3+ was the ZF Lifeguard 8 fluid. And it isn't. It is actually ZF Lifeguard 9. So you probably should have used the Lifeguard 8 for that transmission.

[@dannywilliamson3340]

But you do not have an exhaust crossover running directly under your drain plug like the bastards at Ram engineering INTENTIONALLY designed into their trucks!! WTAF??

[@thomasreyes2857]

You got big problems the sound of that motor. 🤪😊

[@NewRoad]

The sound doesn't bother me - it drives awesome though! 😎

[@elmarito007]

I believe Satan himself designed this transmission in the deepest point of the pits of hell, because there is no other explaination of why they made the whole process so annoyingly complicated for a rather simple job.

[@NewRoad]

agree, the process is not straight forward unfortunately, but it you follow instructions - it's fine